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I was propositioned by many Romanian and Polish guys on the street as I was cruising late at night. I ended up going to a place a few blocks from Paragonya that was a bar with a cruisy area, or maybe it was like a sex club--I can't recall the name, and couldn't find it online, so maybe it is gone. As I recall, there was a part of the bar that had hallways and cubicles, and lots of guys milling around, including lots of working guys. Only one guy appealed to me, but I was out of money, so I just kind of hung out and cruised for a few hours hoping to hook up with a local, but it seemed to be pretty much working guys and customers only. The guy I liked was a big, hugely muscled black guy with an accent, from the Ivory Coast, and he kept hitting me up and I kept turning him down, because it was my last night and I truly was out of money. At the end of the night, he said, OK, come on, let me f*ck you. For free. I don't normally bottom, and that c*ck was huge, but the scene and the guy were so hot that I bent over and took it (safely, of course). He worked me over very well and I got off almost without touching myself. It was one of the hottest experiences of my life up to that point.

Oh, I did connect. And it wasn't that much (although I can see the muscle god trying to charge that--the guy I ended up connecting with told me the muscle god was Brazilian, and that all the guys come there on trips just to make money because the work pays so much more there than back in their home countries). The guy I ended up with was from Panama, if I remember correctly. Very cute young skater type. He heard all the commotion of the nelly one shouting at me, and he followed me back upstairs to whisper that he would suck and get sucked without a condom, but no anal. I clarified that is what I had originally been asking anyway, and we went into a cabin. I think I paid $80. Certainly it was not more than $120. But yes, I am very much looking forward to Brazil!

OK. Answered. Thanks!

I have been reading the forums avidly since joining a few days ago, and I have found a few posts that include a video file, such as this one from Tomcal: http://www.boytoy.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23290-2015-porto-alegre-and-rio/?p=141121I can't view that video. If I click on it, I get an "Oops! Something went wrong!" message. This has happened on every video file since I joined the site. I can't right click and save, either. Do they work for other people? Is there a trick to it? I realize this might not be "the place" to post asking for help, but it is the only forum I'm following, and I didn't see any place that looked like an "official" place to post this. Thanks in advance for any help, guys!

I do believe Paragonya is the place. I walked in and was amazed to see it full of hot guys. It turns out they were all from Brazil or Central or South America. It seems to be pretty much the way the saunas in Brazil are described, but I haven't been to Brazil, so I can't compare. But I was approached immediately by several guys offering sex for money. The Spanish/Portuguese/German/English hodgepodge was difficult to navigate for sure. I saw there one of the hottest men I've ever seen, hugely muscled with a huge dick swinging, but he went with another client and left before I got a chance to talk to him. Luckily, I like all kinds of guys

I'm assuming that the fact that you can only cite one instance of a guy sucking with a condom means that I can simply skip negotiating the "no condom" when I'm looking for oral then. Good to know. In Zurich, the guys reacted like I had just asked them if I could inject them with HIV using a hypodermic needle! One young femme heard from his friend what I had asked for and sought me out in order to berate me loudly in front of many other patrons. In Spanish. In Zurich. It was quite a scene.

Thank you so much for answering. I understand that asking this question may be asking people to reveal not just their knowledge, but potentially also their private sexual practices. I was literally shocked on the two occasions when I was told I would need to put on a condom for oral. I can understand this back in the early days of the mid- to late-eighties, when people still weren't sure how HIV was transmitted, but in 2015? Using condoms for oral is simply outside my realm of experience. And if that is a requirement, I'm just not interested. For anal, though, I certainly understand that it is personal habit, belief, and preference that would guide this. For oral, a condom reduces my interest to zero, no matter how handsome the guy.

I am planning my first trip to Brazil soon. I searched this forum and I found one reference to condoms and oral, where the garoto insisted on a condom before he would suck. This is my nightmare! It has happened to me twice before, in Zurich and in Puerto Vallarta. Zurich was my first experience with this type of sauna, where I walked in and I was immediately greeted by a multitude of amazingly hot guys, almost all of whom turned out to be visiting from Brazil. Once I got to the cabin, I was very disappointed that the guy insisted on rolling on a condom before he would consider getting down to (oral) business. He also insisted (at first) that I would need to put a condom on him before I could suck (although he relented on this point). I am on PrEP, which has revolutionized my life. I have pretty much stuck to oral for the last 20 years because I simply don't enjoy condoms. My question is (and, please, I do understand there's still some risk for other diseases, so I'm not going into this naively), what are the norms in Brazil? I assume that insisting on a condom for oral must be a little unusual, or else it wouldn't have been pointed out in that other thread. But what about anal? I realize I might be inviting criticism or commentary with this post, and I'm truly not interested in either. I want to ask: are most garotos comfortable with oral, either way, without a condom? And what about anal? Will some guys top without a condom? And lastly, I assume this is more rare, but are some guys OK getting topped without a condom, or do they all insist on a condom? I don't blame them AT ALL for insisting...I'm just very curious about the regular practices, and maybe the irregular practices as well. And I guess a follow-up question is: do you negotiate all of this before hand? Asking, do you suck without a condom, get sucked, etc? It's a given that any such negotiations would take place privately, out of earshot of any friends who might be nearby.

Thank you so much, tomcal. That's exactly the kind of helpful info I wanted to know!

Any updates on the current accepted rates in Rio? Is it still 100 R in the saunas?

My question is: have the prices gone up because the guys follow these exchange rates? Meaning, does what used to cost 50 Reias now cost $150? Or are the prices still priced only for the local currency?