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  1. Last night at 2 am or so after my companion left I decided that is too scary to sleep alone and I need somebody if only to warm the bed and embrace me in my sleep, in short, no particular requirement and even brother of Hunchbck of Notre Dame will do. So fired Grindr and it was somebody shown at 58 meters away, still online. Actually nice, good looking and at 178 not too short so I sent a message, answer come right away agreeing to complete the night from now till whenever. I gave location and stated that I will be waiting in front of hotel. And so I went downstairs looking right and left to a completely deserted soi for somebody to show but it was still empty. In about 5 minutes somebody appeared emerging from my hotel. That was a guy actually better looking than on an app. Turned out that he is in the same hotel. So via 7/11 we returned there, in elevator it turned we are staying on the same floor and when I asked what room you are staying, it was revealed that it was one opposite of mine with our heads leaning at the same wall, just from other side. So distance of 58 meters really was more like 28 centimeters. Who would think I was so well positioned? And good news is, I wasn't asked for taxi money!!!
    21 points
  2. chum_soccer

    Karaoke/Host Bars

    I have been living in Bangkok for almost 6 months now and the Silom gogo bars and massage parlors around BKK have started to bore me. So I started exploring an untapped territory amongsts us farangs in Thailand. Although foreigners are not unheard of in these Karaoke/Host Bars but its extremely rare I heard. To be honest, I haven't searched the forum if there's an already existing topic about this but I hope you guys wouldn't mind. I'll jumpstart this topic with some of the few places that I have already been and I will list down a few other places that I know and hopefully some of our members can explore and share their experiences as well. So here it goes: Chill HostBar This is located in Nonthaburi which is around 20 minutes from the Grand Palace in Bangkok. I would recommend this to first timers since the owner can speak english well and they have models whose first language is english. Some models are magazine-models-quality and most are straight. Sitting with the boy is 750/hour. VIP room starts at 300/hour. No sex in the VIP room but kiss and blowjob is alright. I was able to off someone for 500 THB and there is a motel across for the same price. The model I offed grew up in Australia so he is a Thai with an australian accent. Fucks and kisses hard. I tipped him 1,700 after. One word of advice though is that the owner can be a little shady. He ordered food which I ended paying in the end. I've also been told that the VIP is getting prepared (even though I was the only customer that time), preparation took 1 hour and turns out I was already paying 750 for sitting with the model. What's worse is that the whole time I was just talking to the owner because I was too shy to make a move on the model (we were sitting in the common room). If you'd like to save some moolah while exploring this bar, just buy enough drinks to get to know the model, don't order food, and just sit with the model in the common room and off him after. Buzz Karaoke/Host This is a fairly new host bar in Bangkok. There are around 30-40 boys to select from which are mostly twinks and straight. Beer prices starts at 1,000++ (3 beers), sitting with the boy in the common room is 250. VIP room is 300/hour and sitting with the boy in the VIP room is 750 for the first hour and 250 for the succeeding hours. No sex in the VIP room is allowed but kiss and blowjob are okay. Staff speaks limited english so you will need to use google translate if you don't know basic Thai. The boy I sitted with is straight and fairly new to the business. I was only able to kiss him and fondle his cock in the VIP room. He was too shy to get a blowjob in the bar. I got his Line and we were supposed to meet up so that I can give him a proper one but didn't reply on the day itself anymore :(. So this was 4,400 THB charged to experience. Sit2Sis Restaurant/Ent Club This is a hostbar in Din Daeng Bangkok. If you take a grab/bolt to the place, you will see a Sis2Sis restaurant but that is not the bar itself. You would have to go inside the parking of the same building and take the stairs one floor down. You will need to take an ATK (100/THB) to get inside. So a beer costs 260 THB, ice is 130 THB and sitting with a boy is at least one beer/hour (which is 260 THB). However, they employ a bidding concept wherein guests can fight/bid over the boy/models that they want, meaning if you bid to sit the model for one beer and someone else bid two beers (520 THB), you would have to bid three beers (730 THB) to get him and so on.. Bidding happens every after hour so all the boys would return to the stage to get bid for every after hour. Customers are mostly Thais although, there was also a group of Chinese. What suprises me is that almost all of the 40-50 models get seated for atleast two beers. Some groups would sit 3-5 guys so be prepared to shell out some moolah to compete. I sitted a boy who can speak english and ended up sitting him for two beers for 4 rounds. My bill racked up to 4,500 with no sex, blowjob or kiss nonetheless, it was a fun night. There are a few other places in Bangkok with more or less the same concept (pay to sit the boy with no expectation of sex). This could be thrilling for others (like me, lol) who like a challenge in laying a straight guy. The only downside is the cost but if you're someone who doesn't have to worry about money, here are a few other places I found which you could try and share your experiences with: Fake Club Bangkok TurboClub Bangkok 76 Garage (can't sit with the guy but models are AAA quality) Mirinn Club RCA ERR Infinity YES.BKK Hiso Ciety (I think this is the cream of the crop of all Male hostbar in BKK)
    18 points
  3. Three members tasked themselves last night to check New Twilight arriving around 10 pm It makes nice impression, spacious, new furniture, wall size screen behind the scene, in short smells new. Several boys presenting themselves on the stage, most of them fully dressed but shirts, removed bit later. Not hunky but not twinky either, some faces familiar from other bars, some new, one or two visibly shy so must be new new. Some staff also transplanted from other bars. Atmosphere friendly, owner advertising " take 2 boys you will get 3rd free and it will be me''. Actually quite young guy he is
    14 points
  4. Vessey

    Nice boys advice

    Nice Boys has its own Web Page and Facebook page, Opening 8pm - or thereabouts, and officially open until 12 I think ..... Sometimes only a handful of boys on stage, sometimes a dozen or more - they are freelancers and it depends on the time and on the day as to who you find inside. Less boys now that were commonplace pre-Covid. No underage!, most in their 20s, occasionally one or two 30 or more. These are all straight boys, often with day jobs, wives and GFs; all 'gay for pay'. Drinks, yours and the boys 200 baht each. The boys are not shy, well most of them - it takes new arrivals a week or two to loose their shyness. Pre-covid they wore just their pants on stage which would drop to their knees at the slightest encouragement. Now they wear jeans, but their belts usually hang loose. If you call them off the stage they would expect you to buy them a drink and they will mostly drop their pants and produce their cock for you to look at and play with. No fixed tip pricing, but a handling of their cock I give 100 baht, if I play with it for a period or suck it (yep that's ok), then maybe 200, but if they chuck-wow for you and cum then 300 baht is the expected tip. Lots of wriggle room as to individual requests. Last time I was in there were a couple of ladyboy customers with a bottle of whisky and one of the cuter boys completely naked parading around the bar, from their seats to the stage etc. Never did work out for sure what they paid him for that, but I think 500 baht? Off fees are three or four hundred baht, I can't recall specifically. Boy's fees in your room negotiable, I usually pay 2,000 baht for a visit be it ST or LT and never had any of them ask for more, although maybe an extra 100 baht for a taxi bike. Your trouble will be finding the bar; its on Soi VC backing onto Sunee rather than in the plaza itself; but trust me, it is worth the search. I have had many great nights both alone and with accompanying friends in Nice Boys!
    14 points
  5. vinapu

    TAWAN MUSCLE BAR

    I visited Tawan yesterday with another member who IS NOT fan of big boys and we liked experience and atmosphere, very friendly. As soon as we showed up we were greated with handshakes by few of the guys - in what bar you have that kind of greetings.? If was Monday and holiday so it was not crowded, perhaps dozen guys and the same number of customers including few Asian girls Show carried up anyways, 3 divas, with lip sync singing, 3 muscle guys posing but only one with pokong cock, 6 big cock show participants who went about the audience to offer feel and collect tips. JO show with 3 participants, one of them did not finish race for a lack of tippers. Everything done in good natured mood. Singing divas successfully tried to engage an audience in some sort of conversation and of course looked for tips. As in days past guys are circulating freely and as space is limited that requires a lot of less walking. Among boys novelty, genuine twink, not even aspiring bodybuilder so everybody has a chance there. Few old faces, few new, nobody drastically out of shape,quite opposite. As for me at least 5 looked offable right away including one I did few times and who recognized me immediately earning beer and a red tip. And yes I offed one and hope to try others too. Earlier in the day, around noonish I passed by and there was lonely guy offering massage so of course I engaged him as to start trip in style. Not a bad looking guy and not a bad massage either. In the evening world saw him on the stage. Need to check that offer regularly as some of guys I, m salivating about may actually offer massage. Facilities, are on top floor so some climb is requred and are pretty basic but not that basic, clean and hot watered. On weekend shows are aparently more sophisticated, ahem, but what we saw yesterday was entertaining enough. Recommended to everybody since twink is on an offer.
    13 points
  6. vinapu

    Silom bars

    To complete Silom offerings yesterday I went to the last not visited bar - Hot Male. Few hours before I was chatting downstairs with two members and in meantime was entertained by one of their host, pleasant but shockingly dimunitive Lao boy who suggested he may consider to accompany me to a show in bar proper upstairs. Risky move on my part allowing world to see me in company of twinky twink of twinks, but I risked ruining my reputation and see what will happen. Quite well choreographed and skilfully performed, particularly I liked opening football themed dancing number. No f.... Show but Big cock yes with 6 or 7 participants and their clocks. All rather on an impressive side , my companion, no doubt expert in bar goings, claimed, all natural. Well attended with perhaps 30 spectators who actually offed quite a few boys, ony by one. Not to be outdone, I called overone guy known to me from before, secured his agreement for long time and somehow idea was raised that two to a bed is not utilizing space properly so my new companion, after twinky Lao declined, suggested one shyly smiling tall addition to our duo making it three after securing his choice agreement. Off we went to an applause of crew and audience and on street level also our two members. On our way to a hotel, mandatory dinnner stop was, made at multistar, World Heritage you know what.
    12 points
  7. Vessey

    Nice boys advice

    To add to my previous post, I would describe Nice Boys as a 'hidden gem', a relic of the glory days of Sunee Plaza. It offers hands-on fun at modest prices. You can go in some days and it is buzzing - plenty of boys on stage, a number of customers. Other days there you might find yourself the only customer and maybe only three or four boys lounging on the sofas at the far end of the stage or even asleep on the seating on the far side of the bar and your temptation would be to turn around and leave. Don't! There is fun to be had on both scenarios. For the former, in a busy bar, just join in, although keep in mind that the more popular boys with probably have cum at least once already that night - not that that will stop them trying again of course. For the second, drinks all round and/or tips and they will not only wake up but you will be their centre of attention. Maybe even splash-out on a small bottle of whisky and watch their clothes fall off and their cocks harden around you and who knows what will happen. I have spent memorable nights in Nice Boys under both scenarios. I have frequently gone in with two or three other gay boys who also happily join in the fun, stroking and sucking the Nice Boys boys; you can easily get quite a little party going. One slight word of caution is that they still use the wooden bar bins and chits of paper for every order and your 'bin' can mount-up. I rarely get out of there with a bin of less than a 1,000 baht and on one memorable night, I went in with my little gang, left with a couple of extra boys for the night, and my bin was just about 6k baht plus my various tips to the boys themselves, but that included off-fees and whisky. Absolutely no regrets about my bins here, but I would advise having enough in your wallet to enjoy yourself if things start to take-off (so to speak). The management have seen it all before, and as the cum starts to fly, the papasan will casually walk around depositing toilet rolls on your tables to help mop us 🤣 For my debauched little mind, this is currently my absolute favourite bar in Pattaya; but you have probably already guessed that 😂
    12 points
  8. I have 2 more stories, not that funny but interesting for me. Yesterday I released my leash and throughout the day took 3 massages I 3 different places by masseurs new for me. From all 3 received very doubtful complement - that I look like KFC guy. Doubtful claim on fame but if you don, t have what you like, like what you have said I to myself. Second is from today morning. Waiting for green light in front of king statue at Lumpini noticed good looking guy who impatiently just crossed street on red. Sent him second long look of condemnation and even followed him with glance as he was quite a something in looks depertmnent. Hour ot two later got message on Grindr from guy the I looked at him in the morning. Asked if he is red crossing guy, yes he was. I must say, admire his gaydar as it was really just cursory glance from me. To make story short - it looks he will come tomorrow for the lecture of proper street crossing.
    11 points
  9. Vessey

    Should I visit Pattaya?

    Unlike some previous posters I am definitely of the 'glass half full' persuasion. I was in Pattaya for New Year and again last week. I have to tell you that the City is already more 'open for business' now than it was in January. Inevitably on this forum we look at the gay night life of Pattaya from the point of view of farang, but we are a tiny part of the sex tourism of the City and arguably not that representative of the whole. My hotel sits on Soi 6, in January 50% of the bars were open, by the end of last week when I left again, it was near 80%. The more popular bars were rammed with the sound of bells being rung, party balloons out here and there. Walking Street was almost dead in January, but this trip much more was open, maybe 50% of the agogos for example. The Beer Garden was open again, and even the little bars between it and Beach Road were repopulating. Soi Bukhow was buzzing, particularly Tree Town with just about every bar open and in full swing - although I agree overall not as busy as in previous years, though some bars certainly were. Boyztown itself seemed about 50% open, Toy Boys remains closed but according to some of the boys who work there, likely to re-open next month. BBB was busy although the 'sexy shows', still more muted than in the past. Pikky Bar, Castro, etc not exactly full of customers but open with boys about. I suspect BT relies much more heavily on the Chinese market than it does on the farang - but others may disagree. Just outside BT itself, A-Bomb was discretely open, Dream Boys more openly open. X-Boys remained 'restaurant' only but again with reports that it would re-open inside next month. In Jomtien Complex, just about every bar that could be open was open, with Home Bar and Sun Bar in particular doing a roaring trade. The Venue had its shows back on and there were a series of 'street party/shows' on most nights, sponsored by one bar or another. Elsewhere in the town Thai shops and businesses were mostly open, a number of the closed 7/11s had re-opened. Even the McDonalds at the the bottom of Soi 6 had re-opened - although closing at 10pm. Most massage shops were open again, although the ones, down Second Road, opposite Alazar are abandoned and seemingly awaiting demolition. My advice, for what it is worth, is ignore the doom-merchants and get yourselves back over there; Pattaya is steadily re-opening for business!
    11 points
  10. This is how it looks from outside. Is not that hidden, during day that soi is quite busy with lots of eateries and Silom market. Today is quiet because of holidays
    10 points
  11. That is an excellent point. I think it is a good idea to start the browsing two weeks to a month before arriving in Thailand. That way, whether the boy is online or not he will receive your message and probably start responding. I would also advise - no matter how cute and charming he may seem - do not make any commitments in advance of meeting him personally - and be very wary even then. Some of these boys excel at getting farang to think they've found the lifelong boy of their dreams. WRONG! Don't limit yourself. I would get his contact information and tell him you'll contact him when you're in town. Here is just one example of what I mean - and there are many, many more. Some of you may remember Crabby and Thomas's Corner Bar in Sunee Plaza. You might also remember their ladyboy manager. She actually had two farang boyfriends who thought she was the only one for them and they were the only one for her. Neither farang knew about the other, but financially supported her. Then her worst nightmare happened. They both unexpectedly showed up in Pattaya at the same time and were here for two weeks. I don't know how in the world she did it, but she somehow managed to juggle things and the two weeks passed without either of them knowing anything about the other or even becoming suspicious. After they left they both continued supporting her. She disappeared even before Corner Bar closed and I have not seen or heard anything about her since. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if those two farang are still supporting her, knowing nothing about the other. Another example. It's been at least 20 years by now, but I remember a boy who used to walk around with not one - not two - not three - but 5 mobile phones. Why? Because he had 5 different farang supporting him and none of them had any idea about the others. And when it's time to leave Thailand make no promises, especially no promises about money. I would thank him for a wonderful time, give him a generous tip, and tell him you hope to see him next time you come. That's it. Nothing more than that. In most cases I've seen over the years, the average is about two weeks after you return home before the pleas for money start coming. Be very careful. Believe me, no matter how much you give them, it's never enough.
    10 points
  12. I don't recognize your screen name, so in case you don't know who I am, I have been living full time in Pattaya for many years. I think your decision depends on what you're looking for. At the moment, most everything is open except the go-go bars. But there are plenty of gay beer bars open, especially in Jomtien Complex, and plenty of boys, not to mention plenty of boys on the gay hook-up apps. The beaches are open. The restaurants are open. The hours have been relaxed and as of May 1 they are expected to be further relaxed. So, unless the go-go bars are essential to your visit, I'd say to go back. You didn't say when you are thinking about going, but if you're lucky maybe the go-go bars will have reopened by then too. I think we all want to see the go-go bars reopen, including those of us who hardly ever even go to the go-go bars. In any case, those who have been visiting Pattaya have been posting that they have really enjoyed it and I have not seen a single post from anybody saying they regretted their trip. I hope you will choose to go to Pattaya and then later be posting about how much you enjoyed your stay and are glad you went.
    10 points
  13. Further along from Mango Tree restaurant, this new bar opened last night: 2 May. Whoever the owners are they have put a lot of work into this comfortable place with decent seating etc.There is a show and a selection of boys and staff. My drink @ Bicardi was 350 baht and only time will tell if this new establishment will succeed: Worth a visit!
    9 points
  14. Some staff needs some training, when asked if I buy 2nd drink for boy sitting with me answer "no, one is enough" was taken as "yes, one more" Show without nudity, although some erections were visible through white Aussie Bums and without lip synching either. Drink and boy drink 350, off fee 500, tip quoted by Mamasan 2000 and up, quoted by aspiring model 3000 st 5000 lt. Boys mostly not a bad looking but to model hood there,s mile or two. No Nut or Babe there yet but bar, boys, staff they all look promising and definitely worth checking.
    9 points
  15. I visited this new bar yesterday. You can see the owner invested a lot of money. I see 2 problems with the bar: location and clothing. The first one is the location: easy to find for regular visitors of the bar scene, but totally impossible to find for newcomers. The boys were wearing some kind of uniform: jeans, blue shirt and white sneakers. Well, not really a uniform as all had different ones. In other bars, boys are shirtless now. About 10 boys on stage, average looking. Not so many customers, but they had one beside me who ordered bottle of alcohol and was pampered by the staff. When you've visited Patpong bars, it is worth a visit, but not top priority.
    8 points
  16. TotallyOz

    Lesson learned

    I have been writing trip reports for over 20 years. I share information but usually a bit after my day and I don't have full detail. When people ask me about specific guys, unless I know them personally, I don't share that with them. It is easy to help the community to grow in knowledge without getting screwed over. Admittedly, in the beginning, I share much more photos than I do today but that is based on my doing this for a long time and I do share with friends I have met personally but not someone I have not met and know or a friend has not met and vouched for.
    8 points
  17. vinapu

    Pattaya First Timer Help

    Copa is hotel in Boyztown, just across the soi from BBB and fits all your specifications. Considering it's location obviously your boys are welcomed hassle free. May be bit noisy in the evening but not really problem for me over the years. Only disadvantages - no breakfast provided and whole soi will see who are walking in with. Just above BBB is Ambiance which was closed for a while but may be re-opened already, I personally don't like it's maze of corridors . In the parallel soi , on the corner and just above ABomb and another girlie bar there is Classrooms hotel with big rooms , most with balconies which is my favorite as it's quieter and has card operated side entry so you and your guests are entering undisturbed. Perhaps 5-10 $ ore than Copa. All three easily booked through Agoda. As for touchy bar try Nice Boys which has own thread on this forum . Is located in Sunee Plaza, 10 minutes walk from Boyztown . Guys are on rough side but not hunks, certainly touchy although last time I visited there in Dec with another member they were more flirtatious with their phones than customers. Small tip lie 20 baht will allow you short inspection and for a price of boy drink and say 100-200 tip you can prolong inspection easily. Not a place for shy. as for splitting time between BKK and Pattaya there will be as many opinions as members with some bypassing either city completely, some giving one much more time than another and some splitting their time evenly but since you , like me seem to like more hunky guys, more abound in Bangkok I'd say out of 2 weeks , 1st in Bkk, followed by 4 days in Pattaya and then last 3 days back in Bkk would be my advice. Pattaya is cheaper , hotels, drinks and expected tips but during day Bangkok offers much more to do than that " family friendly " destination. Whatever you decide though , you can't be much wrong. As tourist traffic is still way from normal it's easy now to change mind, cancel reservation in one place and extend it in another, just when booking make sure reservation is cancellable Whatever you decide , you are in for a ball, rest assured
    8 points
  18. vinapu

    Nice boys advice

    architecture is that biggest draw Pattaya has for me
    8 points
  19. I live in Mexico, Speak Spanish and I lived in Brasil in about 2004....I speak Portuguese. The conversations, depending who I'm with, revolve around anything from politics to Michael Jackson music, travel, dreams of making a business and sexual fantasies or their stories from working at the saunas 😲. Anyone that knows me, knows I'm not a Santa Claus nor do I give/send money to guys for no reason. I'm in touch with a couple of guys from 15-20 yrs ago in Rio, that we meet sometimes when our schedules line up for lunch....as close friends as I have in USA, maybe closer. Likeable guys like Namazu or Tomcal are fun and the guys like to be around them ,not only for money, because God knows I don't throw money at them, lol. Because we don't treat them like sex objects, we are...usually, interested in them too. Not just slam, bang, thank you mam......
    8 points
  20. z909

    Should I visit Pattaya?

    I was last in Pattaya 2 months ago, however: 1 Gogo bars were closed, with the irrelevant exception of Nice Boys, which is more rough trade than "pretty boys". 2 There were & still are plenty of pretty boys on the phone apps. They are not on the apps 24-7, so if you're fussy, browse a few times in the first few days to build up a favourites list. 3 There are plenty of boys around Jomtien complex. All clothed, except for one cute bar manager, who has a BF and AFAIK isn't available. Pre-pandemic, the scene in Pattaya had about 8 gogo bars remaining, of which I thought 3 were reliably worth visiting. (Winner, Toy Boys & Cupidol). The owner of Winner will reopen as soon as he's allowed to, Cupidol is apparently permanently closed and I've no idea about Toy Boys. I don't see Pattaya ever recovering to the level where it has a large number of open gogo bars. If this assessment is correct, I will still go to Pattaya and use the apps. So my suggestion is to go to Pattaya. If not, where else would you go ? There are a few pandemic benefits, such as low hotel rates & quiet streets.
    8 points
  21. Slvkguy

    Lesson learned

    So, I just returned from SP & posted some of my adventures. I didn’t name any of the sex-providers, but dropped some clues if they were advertising online as garotos, or even more vague descriptions if they worked in the sauna. I also offered to answer some questions via private message to help other members plan their trip to SP. So, after answering multiple questions (to the point of getting annoying) for one member here specifically - I get a text from a garoto that this person is WhatsApp “interviewing” him with a bunch of ridiculous questions, photo requests and insisting on bareback sex. And using my information saying that we’re friends. Yes, I know who the person is. I simply pointed this member to the garotos online listing - and within a few hours, the trouble starts. Based on my interactions with members here - vast majority are mature and don’t abuse the information that we share. Too bad a few immature people ruin it for the majority. FWIW - I should have known better and my gut told me this guy was trouble. Lesson learned.
    7 points
  22. 10tazione

    Thai Pass

    You forgot one important advantage of bars over apps: 4 You get the boy immediately (ok maybe you have to go back to the hotel). With apps you don't know, a whether you will get an answer at all b how much time it takes to get an answer, which can be from immediately to several weeks c when the boy has time to come to your hotel if at all d if he will find your hotel and how many hours he will be late
    7 points
  23. Totally agree that Thailand has so much to see outside the main cities and tourist spots. There are also lots of local events that are stunning and quite unique to Thailand. I have referred before to the Candle Festival in Ubon Ratchathani and the Ghost Festival in the village of Dansai in Loei Province. These both take place during the period of Buddhist Lent and so usually the June/July period. Although there is occasional rain, it is not the main rainy season. The Ubon Festival is not a procession of townsfolk parading through with hand-held candles. For about a month beforehand, each temple prepares massive wax carvings on trucks. These depict scenes from Buddhist scriptures. About 30 or so of these form the main part of the Parade which also includes participation by thousands including many cute students from the local university. There are many ghost festivals around Thailand but Dansai is I believe the largest and most popular. Loei is a lovely green province where the weather is generally little cooler. There is even a large vineyard. The only problem for visitors to the Festival is the lack of good hotel rooms in or very close to the village. There really is only one on the hill above the village and so it needs to be booked far in advance. Many visitors stay in Loei which is about 1 hr 20 minutes away and go by tourist bus.
    7 points
  24. vinapu

    Nice boys advice

    doesn't sound very appetizing considering that other patron could leave traces of his dentures on the boy's thing earlier on . Better off them to a place with shower I guess
    7 points
  25. numazu

    Lesson learned

    This is a big reason why I don't post my trip reports any more. While a tiny minority, there are super creeps out there that make it not worth it and ruin the joy I've felt in the past. It became so bad that I've had to delete my Instagram in the past because of a stalking issue from this site. As a rule I never pass on any numbers of boys I feature in my trip reports. That is just asking for trouble. And your mileage may vary anyways... Any good fortune I've had may not translate to you, and vice versa.
    7 points
  26. aussie_

    Nice boys advice

    I arrived at Nice Boys last night at 9.30pm. There was four guys on stage, only one who would interest me for a closer look. The Mamasan said the other boys had gone to a party. They need more guys on stage to entice me to pay 200 baht for a drink. I know one popular boy who was a regular at Nice Boys but does not bother to go to work because there are not enough customers. Hopefully more tourists and visitors from Bangkok on a non election weekends will improve the situation for the bar boys and the customers looking for some hands on entertainment. I later tried Dream Boys and X Boys bars where there were ten handsome shirtless guys wearing jeans at each bar. My Leo beer was 150 baht at each bar.
    6 points
  27. vinapu

    Silom bars

    Last night modified forum trio descended on Jupiter around 10.00. Several patrons including few girls, one quite active in distributing tips but also doing uncalled for advances on performers. Nothing new, good and bad. Bad first, music too loud, forget about any conversation. Air-conditioner running at full speed, making inside wintry cold. Smiles very, very sparse, even 100 baht tip extracted something like very shy grin. On personal evel I was hoping one of their guys who aparently returned to town will be there but no, not yet. Good is show is still very professional, even if bit dated but now with so many returning after 2-3 years break it,s easy to justify. Guys all still prime material, I could off every single one, just no idea if they are interested as smiles still lacking. Will return if only to see if object of interest really is back.
    6 points
  28. Boyztown can often be noisy, with the music volume set too high. As the music is out in the street, it affects all Boyztown bars, so no escape. That's if it's still the same as back in Dec~Feb ? Loud music is rarer in Jomtien Complex. Also, if one bar has the volume too high, the problem can usually be solved by moving along to the other end of the street. There are far more customers in Jomtien than Boyztown & in my view, that's well deserved. As Vinapu says, there is very little privacy. Off a boy and your activity is visible in all the nearby bars. If you have a favourite boy in a bar at each end of the street, then you have to walk past one of them with your latest "trade". Unless of course you sneak out through the alley in the middle, which would look rather desperate. Of course, none of this really matters, particularly when you make it clear you're a butterfly and don't make any claims about loyalty.
    6 points
  29. vinapu

    Moonlight models

    I visited Moonlight last night, heavy rain in the evening perhaps contributed to quite sparse crowd inside, staff outnumbered Patrons 2 to 1 I guess. Only 3 models on display and as part of show - Nicky, Smart and Marc, perhps 8 floor guys all bar one in t-shirt and jeans. Some of our members would get a heart attack I suspect. One bare chested recognized me immediately as he was my 1st off in Dec. For me he was only one offable material so it goes without saying I did not off anybody( doesn't mean I spent night praying silently or something). Show was pretty brief but entertaining enough, drink 400, VAT included. Need to try them another night as heavy rains contributed likely to a low participation. As soon as I got in my room another heavy rain followed. But today air is quite cooler than yesterday not to mention streets cleaner.
    6 points
  30. PeterRS

    Restaurant Tips

    Re Le Bouchon, we dined there yesterday evening. It felt a little strange as we kept trying to work out where the Babylon entrance and staircases had been! We found nothing familiar. Not surprising since it had been a ladies spa and another business since Babylon moved out to the larger premises further down the soi about two decades earlier. We had heard mixed reports about both the food and the service. Some of the staff from the old location on Patpong 2 were still there and they were excellent. Three tall, younger Thai ladies were rather dumb but we assume they will learn. Once seated and with our drinks, everything moved up quite a few notches. We both thought the food was excellent, especially a starter with Hokkaido scallops. The salmon was also near perfection. My plentiful chocolate mousse for dessert had a lovely chocolatey taste and a nice consistency. My partner's Creme Brûlée was as good. Price for a three course meal plus aperitifs and a glass of wine each was 1,900 baht for two. Good value even if on the slightly pricey side. The present menu will be gradually expanded as the staff get into their stride. We were told that the set lunch at 480 baht++ is packed virtually every day. Last night it was around three-quarters full. Closed every Tuesday.
    6 points
  31. orson

    Nice boys advice

    Came to the bar last night. 3 guys on stage had it hanging out, another 4 were busy with their phone. 4 customers including me. At first i was uneasy by the "lady" mamasan, but i just ignored her. Thanks @Vesseyfor the price information, i followed it to a tee. Except i did order them drinks while they were sitted with me. Tonight will try the bin thing. Price is really different from bangkok. Bring cleaning wipes if you prefer to be handson. They dont seem to have running water. But i came from a 3rd world country so I can manage.
    6 points
  32. Londoner

    Value for money

    It is undoubtedly true that the Gold Old Days were very much for us- that is European/American/Australian gay men. Usually in our fifties and beyond. The entertainment we enjoyed was geared to our tastes. However, this couldn't go on; slowly and inexorably we were dying out and younger gay compatriots weren't interested in our scene. I regret the passing of that time but without the new arrivals, there'd be no Pattaya , and probably not even the remnants of a gay scene which we survivors can still enjoy. Go to Terminus 21 and observe the sky-line. Where are you? not in the Old Pattaya with its girlie bars and ramshackle shops but in a modern Asian city with high rise hotels and condos. They are there for the tourists who have replaced us. Best to enjoy what's left of the old gay scene while it's still there. As I shall do in my quest to grow old as disgracefully as possible.
    6 points
  33. Londoner

    Silom bars

    Forgive an old man reminiscing....but I went to the original upstairs Super A on my first trip to BKK in 1996. The mamasan gave a signal, the briefs were lowered and the guys started masturbating. All of them. I was the only customer and something of a newbie to the Thai sex scene; embarrassed, I made my excuses and left.
    6 points
  34. TotallyOz

    Silom bars

    I have visited Funny Boys two times and it was great. Over 25 boys each time and some cuties if you like twinks. I visited Moonlight and it had 5 models and 5 gogos and they were OK but nothing special. I visited Jupiter and it was a bit dull. Hot Male was OK but not as many guys as Lucky and Dream Boys were OK but not many my type. I hope this helps! BTW: took a lad from Moonlight (I know as said nothing special but a waiter caught my eye).
    6 points
  35. i arrived here sunday morning at 6:30.am and arranged to get in the airbnb i always get early! one of my guys showed up at noon and then at 5:00 i went to 117 and surprisingly it was very busy. Met up with 2 guys there one new and one i knew and had a great time hi , got home and went to bed! Monday i i had 2 appts and then went to pointe as Juior asked me to pick something.for him and bring it from the states. it was very busy at pointe and again i did a 3 way with one person who was new and one i had known. I got home at 9:00 and met a guy who i have known for a number of years and we had dinner and then spent the night! today Tuesday i had several appts at the apt and then came to 117 where i am now…
    6 points
  36. thaiophilus

    Value for money

    For boy bars there's nothing much outside of Bangkok and Pattaya, but there are of course the apps. For more touristy hotels/restaurants/things to do, you could try, in no particular order: (caveat: I don't know what's open or closed at present, so the following is based on my pre-2020 experience. Check before travelling.) Chiang Rai. Small town, a few things to see, plenty of restaurants. (Has one boy bar, in principle. Whether it has any boys to your taste is another matter ) Phetchaburi. Another small town. take the train from Thonburi to Kanchanaburi (River Kwai) and stay for a few days: it's a touristy town with plenty of restaurants and tours available. Sukhotai, if you like ruins. (Also Ayutthaya but that's only a day trip from Bangkok.) Khao Yai National Park (small national park but only a 3 hour bus journey from Bangkok), stay 2 nights, do "day" and "night" jungle tours. Khao Sok NP (much bigger; fly to Surat Thani then minibus to Khao Sok), stay a few nights and book some excursions via your hotel. there are lots of other national parks but the above are the most easily accessible.
    6 points
  37. Vessey

    Should I visit Pattaya?

    Just back from a couple of weeks in Pattaya over Songkran (or what passed for Songkran yet again). More open, and for longer than in January, and lots of fun to be had. Jomtien Complex is the busiest and most visible gay area and regularly patrolled and visited by police to ensure compliance with the current regulations, similarly BoyzTown although less open here. Sunee is very quiet and the few bars there linger on, but is still my favourite location. Winner Boys is open outside, with six or more of the regular twink boys sitting outside at tables, happy to chat, flirt and go off with you if you want. Nice Boys sits in virtual darkness along a dark stretch of Soi with only boss Beer sitting outside. At first sight you might think it closed, but inside, the straight boys, as many as ten of them on one visit, anxious to do what they do best to 'entertain' you haha. The whole location of Sunee is more discrete and less likely to get police interest. Aside from that, the Thai night clubs, Dragon (G-Star) and of course Sinlapin Isan, thrive and are open until around 1.30 to 2 am. Sinlapin was packed almost every night I went there. And when that finally closes, the karaoke bars are still open until 3 or 4am or later. Version was generally busy, and at my favourite, Friendly, we were usually fighting to get even the smallest table space, and with twenty or thirty 'host boys' available to be called down. So yes, go, go, go! There is plenty of fun and boys to be found in Pattaya; you will have a great time!
    6 points
  38. My sister was visiting me in BKK a while back & together we took a 'Canal Adventure' tour (something I would never do on my own). We were met at the Wutthakat BTS station, escorted to a long-tail boat nearby & spent about 6 hours traveling on the canals west of the river. The tour included visits to a couple of temples, a market, an orchid farm, an artist's house plus lunch. The sights were interesting but not amazing. However, it was very enjoyable to travel by canal boat & see different parts of BKK, far from Silom & Sukhumvit. Ayutthaya is definitely worth a visit. I also did a side trip (by train) to Bang Pa-In Palace, which I liked a lot. It's called the Summer Palace & was used formerly by the Thai Royal Family.
    6 points
  39. 12is12

    Reporting from Budapest

    I was there two midweek nights. Checked out the saunas at 6-9. I m a 65 y/o caucasian; not unattractive. Magnum sauna: After entering I was told "payment when leaving". Fortunately so. There were about 10 men around, looking older than me. In less than a minute I made an immediate U turn, and left. I wasn't charged the €17 entrance fee. Sauna 69: €13 fee. Impressive place; big; spacious; very comfortable loung; immaculately clean. Jaccuzi not hot. 3 oldies and 3 young guys walking around stone-faced, sometimes watching the porn screens. No interactions. Left after an hour. The nice receptionist was honest: "it's better on Saturdays". CoXx men's bar: Google says it opens at 9; went there at 10; was told by the 'receptionist' that things get going only at 11. Didn't wait. Apps: Was propositioned by 3 hot youngsters in Grindr and Romeo. One asked for "support"; insisted I set the sum. I was surprised he was ok with my trial baloon: 10,000 Florint = €26. We set the details, but he flaked; as did another. I met with the third, who was really hungry after a month of no sex. Didn't see any escorts on hunqz. There were 15 on rentmen. The very few posting rates: incall - 120; outcall - 145; overnight 800-1000.
    5 points
  40. Londoner

    Silom bars

    I was always ambivalent about BKK; we never stated more than couple of days before moving on. However, the buzz of arrival in Thailand, the noise, the smells, the heat....and then the taxi to Surawong observing the skyline.Aand that first night walking through Patpong to Soi Twilight (of blessed memory). I don't think I ever spent a baht there but the bustle, the crowds... magical.
    5 points
  41. I had to delete my trip report, but because I started this thread seeking answers I wanted to at least provide an update on the Phuket scene in early April. 3 or 4 boy massage shops were open, but only 2 with any real selection. Blue Dolphin massage and 4massage, these two shops are in the middle section of the complex towards the Paradise hotel. Cute twinks were rare, but the boy next door and more toned guys are more common along with some heavier boys. 10-15 boys across both on any given afternoon, prices were standard 300-400 per hour + whatever you arrange with the boy in the room. 5 or 6 host bars are open in the bar street, with maybe 2 dozen boys that stand around in a group (possibly waiters?) at the start of the soi. I didn’t really spend much time at the bars, I went one night at 8pm and there were 6 or so customers spread out along the bars. I seemed to be largely ignored by all but one boy who wasn’t my type. The one boy who sat with me and chatted seemed to be looking to be offed but I wasn't into him and I didn’t really want to walk up and try my luck with the others. The layout is similar to Jomtien complex, with bars lined along each side of the soi. An outdoor drag lipsync show from 8:30-9:00. I left at 10:00, and the bars closed at 12:00 (still under government covid rules). I was told by the boy that Friday and Saturday nights have more people, so I might have just been unlucky. I stayed at Le Meridien Resort Phuket, it was nice and bringing back guests is fine, but it is more of a family-oriented place and not very convenient location-wise.
    5 points
  42. BlkSuperman

    Lesson learned

    The treatment these guys and manny endure is disgusting. A lot of these guys are gay for pay, married, have girlfriends or families who don't know about their side hustle. So imagine a disrespectful tourist texting at odd hours of the night and in the early morning hours asking for nude pics or videos non stop. These guys go all day, 12 hours or more, answering questions from someone who has no intention of ever visiting RD. Manny has every right to raise his price. He provides PROTECTION, DAMN GOOD SERVICE and QUALITY GUYS. sure some guys get to the apartment and can't get those MASSIVE DICKS HARD. that's why you take a trip to the pharmacy in the colonial zone and buy the strongest dose of viagra, give them 30 mins and watch those ELEPHANT TRUNKS RISE TO THE OCCASION. GOOD LORD, I just made myself horny thinking about the new guy MANNY INTRODUCED ME TO, KING DONG! Give those young studs a viagra and they will walk around your apartment all day with a LONG, STRONG, HARD DICK for you to suk and PHUCK! From what I've been told, the going rate for an escort In the US is up to $300 or more. That's for one hour and the guy count every minute and might not get erect either. If you go to RD you're only paying about $125 for Manny and some good Latin dick. Sounds like a WIN WIN SITUATION in RD if you ask me. Like @SolaceSoulsaid, "guard your reputation with the locals. Also, guard and keep your contacts PRIVATE. Especially, if you have a good rapport with these beautiful, well hung men. They are truly some of the kindest ppl you will ever meet and get to know. 20220327_184320.mp4
    5 points
  43. macaroni21

    Silom bars

    As far as I can remember, I made just the one visit to Super A in the 1990s and never went back. The visit lasted no more than one minute. Even so, it made a deep impression on me, starting with my shock at seeing only emaciated bodies, with the guy nearest me whipping his cock out even before I had a chance to find a seat. Somewhere in one corner was a farang sucking off 2 or 3 boys who formed a semi-circle around him. Taking a deep breath and collecting myself, I chose a seat, but just as I was about to lower myself into it, I saw a small pool of cum on the faux leather. I sprang up, looked for another seat only to see torn upholstery everywhere else, and decided that I was not sitting down anywhere. I turned to leave, but in my hurry kicked a small coffee table, whose leg immediately gave way and the table collapsed. I could not flee down the stairs fast enough. (Actually, I'm not even sure it was Super A. It might have been some other bar in the general area, but it was an upstairs place.)
    5 points
  44. After having visited Thailand's many kinds of gogo bars over the years (decades), I'm of the view that there's a downside to too large a space. Lucky Boys of Patpong 2 (which I understand has not reopened) is one such space I would consider too large. It makes it hard for eye contact and smile contact, and therefore tends to reduce the boys to mere statutes. This is not to say that (if rent is affordable) a large floor area serves no purpose. I can imagine a smart operator splitting a large area into several, more intimately-sized rooms with a different vibe in each room to suit various tastes. Some customers like drag shows; others like shows with full-on nudity; yet others just want to mingle with boys, talk and tip them with the aim of finding a suitable guy to take out. But first and foremost, the space must remain a gay male space. Owners must keep women out, in my view. Once they are let in, it's a slippery slope. The dancers (mostly straight) tend to pay attention to them over the gay male customers. Then women's tastes begin to change the flavour of the club (i.e. men in jeans preferred over nudity), and then the girls' hetero boyfriends start to go with them to the club.... and that's the end of the business as far as I am concerned. I recently read a comment somewhere about a Montreal bar (Stock bar, I think) letting more and more women in. Their gay customers then complained that screaming hordes of women utterly destroyed any gay vibe there used to be. The trouble with Western countries is this madness about non-discrimination and how it may be illegal to bar women from entering (but yet, it is OK to bar men from entering some clubs especially on Ladies Nights). I am all for discrimination in such matters. But it'll be a long thesis for me to explain my thoughts and reasoning, and I will spare you that.
    5 points
  45. z909

    Should I visit Pattaya?

    Try them ALL. Whilst some boys also use all apps, others are rarely seen on anything but their favourite app. Also, you might see radically different pictures of the same boy on a different app. I think the most popular apps in Pattaya are (in order): 1 Hornet 2 Blued 3 Grindr 4 Romeo However, my preferences in Pattaya are in the following order: 1 Grindr 2 Hornet 3 Romeo Grindr: Nice large clear pictures on the main page. Unlimited "blocks", so just block all the lady boys (if you're not looking for that) & anyone else who is a no hoper. Then you just filter the selection down to something interesting using "blocks". Unfortunately, the advertising has recently become intrusive, early in 2022. Hornet: I think it's got more people than Grindr, but when they fit 4 pictures across my phone screen, this is too small. Advertising has long been painfully intrusive. That doesn't seem to hurt Hornet in Thailand, but back home where I live, their market share has dropped from comparable to Grindr to less than 1% of Grindr levels (based on a profile count within 10km radius) Romeo: Used to be very popular, but they were slow to adopt apps. Good free functionality. Advertising is not intrusive, so ideally everyone would kick Hornet & Grindr into touch and move here. Blocks limited to 50, I think. Blued: Lots of people, but I hardly ever meet any one via this. I think the last time would be in Chiang Mai or Myanmar a couple of years ago. If you use it in EU, CH, UK etc, they will close your account. I guess they are not prepared to comply with GDPR or something like that. I log out before leaving Thailand. Whatever apps you use, beware of various quirks, for example: 1 If using the Grindr travel feature, for Pattaya, it will show lots of profiles "near Pattaya". If you keeps scrolling, this includes people actually in Bangkok and further afield. 2 People can adjust their profile setting so they are not visible using the "Grindr Travel" feature. So some of the boys in Pattaya will not be visible. This means they spend less time answering messages from time wasters who aren't going to Pattaya soon. Mine is also turned off, in a failed attempt to reduce spam messages. 3 If filtering by age, of course you might exclude people who didn't enter an age. So occasionally turn it off. 4 Hornet messages seem to synch from one device to another. Grindr messages only go to devices that are on and logged in at the time.
    5 points
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