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Well, I made it! Thursday morning United Airlines Flight from San Francisco to Tokyo, 5 hour layover, then more hours on the ANA flight to Bangkok. Arrived as Friday turned into Saturday. Using the benefit of being an ancient and following long time ago advice from PaulSF and Reader I bypassed the general immigration area and went to the monk/diplomat/old fart line. Changed some money and then my bag tumbled onto the conveyor belt. Then through the green channel at customs and down one flight to the taxi stand. Checked my watch and found that it had taken 22 minutes from departing the plane to negotiation of the taxi fee and heading to Bangkok. Quick check in at Quarter Silom. Decided to not unpack but, rather, to see what was up and happening, I thought I’d read that the closing hours were extended to 2am. So out of the hotel, soi 6 had a few guys sitting across from the dark Tawan (need to put the new name into my memory), noted that the Coffeee Grinder Silom space was up for rent. Massage emporia darkened, many with the foot massage chairs occupied by sleeping staff. Patpong was a clatter of booths being dismantled and Tuk Tuk availability being shouted. Tuned onto the next street which features a dispensary much better lit than the ones in California. A bit surprised by the aggressiveness of the “women” at the new bar (I’ll have to get the name and put in my next report). One even grabbed my arm and forcibly blocked me from forward progress - I had to push her away. Hot Male Bar and the grabber for the show were busy, I put off checking out the show which I thought might not be too busy for Mr at 1am. Went to Good Boys which in its former life was always one to stay open as long as possible…it was open and crowded….very crowded. And, I came to understand what it must be like for Vinapu, PaulSF, and Reader when they arrive after a time away. At least 40 boys on stage or in the club. Several were formerly at Banana,Hot Male, etc. and knew me then and the Vietnamese who remembered me well enough to surround me and provide much fondling, kissing, etc. I bought a few drinks and the crew around me expanded - it was clear that the Vietnamese had decided to keep others away and my eyes from wandering, which they were going. A benefit to this was when the big cock show ended and the wandering for tips for wanking headed my way, my Viet security staff blocked them from getting to my person (wallet). All this while, the stage acts kept changing, divas, drumming with personal equipment, more divas, all the boys on stage, and I had a very good back massage. While viewing At 2am, staff start bringing in the furniture that had been outside, lights go up, and it seemed that private going’s on continued. I noticed one table of two straight couples (guessing, which I shouldn’t do) had a dozen boys drinking with them. I tuned down multiple offers of night company, including one boy, who told the manager that I was offing him. I note here that there was one boy who was with another farang . One of the Viets noticed this and did a yeoman’s job of blocking my view. I left when most of the boys were departing, I gave the object of my attention a Vinapu red note with a practice Vinapu tug. His name is CoCo from Cambodia, and we will meet up night. One of the boys who I’ve known for some time insists on walking me back to the hotel. I tell him, I don’t want anyone tonight as I’m jet lagged. He says he understands. We settle on a gratuity for services and we walk back to Quarter Silom. When we pass The Tarntawan he goes to turn there, which tells me that my habits were a matter of recorded memory as for many a year The Tarntawan was my hotel of choice. After a couple of rounds of discussing Vinapu’s stamp collection and two showers. My guest accepted his gratuity, asked for a tip, after hearing “no, tried the taxi tactic. Again no, then we both laughed as I said that if I over tipped the first night in town, the word would get out and my expenses would expand. He laughed pointed out that I’d managed to avoid the off fee and confirmed with another laugh and smile that I was correct in the word of mouth as he’d already had texts about our encounter. We exchanged Line info, and he gave me the bar tag #s for CoCo, himself, and someone he thought I’d like. The sun was beginning to emerge as he emerged from the building. I have not put in his name, real/stage, as he is a Viet who kisses, sucks, bottoms, and tops. Qualifications rarely found over many many years of Viet boy experience.

On Sunday, I took it easy, kept up with attempt on the gauzy haired former president. There were several texts from boys who using the bar boys grapevine learned I was back in town. I went out on Sunday sight inspections of the ‘hood and found several new hotels and restaurants and more massage parlors than I remember from earlier visits. I noticed a definite bias towards Japanese and Indian tourists. Overall things looked cleaner than my most recent memory. As I was leaving Good Boysat 2am, I palmed some baht to CoCo who I’d been steered away from by the Vietnamese conglomerate. He confirmed he’d be at work by replying to my query with “Yes’ and 8:30”. I used the day to get a 2 hour Thai / aroma oil massage at Prime. After a nap, I headed over to soi 4 to visit with Pao my favorite waiter anywhere in the world, we had a mutual hug fest and caught up.. Pao as the host and real time bar and restaurant manager used to supervise, Reader, PaulSF, another former Forum member, and me as PaulSF presided from a prominent table adjacent to Hot Male Bar I & 2, and across from two clubs by a massage service. Right in front of it was the yellow brick road to take the public through Twilight. The bewitching hour arrived and at Good Boys the mamasan called CoCo over to meet and greet, he was surrounded by an uninvited posse of Vietnamese. My escort from last night had advised me whom to invite to join my table which consisted by himself, his bother, and CoCo. After a few awkward moments I told the mamasan that CoCo and I’d be leaving, his clothes changed, off fee paid and we were out the door leaving several long faces behind. Coco has developed English skills so it was easy to learn some things. First we decided that he wasn’t one to hurry an off so he could return to the club. We started toward Jupiter but got “grabbed” from Banana’s “pusher” in chief, who is an old old friend from Twilight days and so went into Banana where with his prodding and a wave to the host CoCo and I were given prime seats. Not That it was difficult as the club was lacking an audience, “sparse” was the reality maybe 20%. Half women. The show was much the same as the one I saw in May 2023. While much the same as last year, the performers go full out which disperses good energy. Drinks were 400, no cover charge. Chatted with the manager who remembered my other visits in other venues. He told me I had excellent taste in men and CoCo was proof. I suggested we head to Moonlight and CoCo agreed saying “we can go to Jupiter tomorrow”. The hook was in and this fish was willing to be pulled in. Guess tomorrow is booked. At Moonlight, first drink still 500 Thai baht. Same mamasan who was in place when it was the old Jupiter. The pre-show rotation of boys was underway and mamasan gave me background information on many of the dancers, telling me to stay with CoCo but maybe add one of Jupiter’s to the mix telling me that based my past likes.. All this while CoCo is filling in the public record on CoCo. He’s Burmese and fled Myanmar to avoid being conscripted. He’s 37, works a morning / day job at a market. He knows many, many folks, one is in the Moonlight rotation CoCo invites him over. I’m unable to tell if this is impress me or the friend. Friend is Burmese, he and Coco drink and catch up with Burmese comings and goings. Mamasan and I discuss the merits of a Laotian who is just now new to the lineup. Friend goes back to the final rotation before the show. With his shirt now off, I can see his large variety of tattoos, repeat “large”. Show begins and it clearly has been redone and rethought. Babe is the best and most polished dancer and is given two spots to shine. Nicky has more stage time and has almost learned to act and emote. What makes it work for him and the audience is that he knows it is a form of farce and they are in on the one together. Fast paced. One or two divas ( my mind blanks at these and I lose count. Mamasan notices that my back is tiring from sitting on a stool close to the stage and confers with CoCo before suggesting we move to a row with backing to the seats but a prominent visual. We move, it was a good idea, and soon many of the performers are smiling and winking at us - seems CoCois a known favorite of theirs. The gentleman and his companion seated next to tell me that I’m blessed” to have such a stunning lover. I refrain from mentioning we’ve only been together maybe all of three hours. I nod and say thanks. This show is working, the main stars have meshed together and made a connection with the audience (about 60% of the house, a third women). When the intros of the main performers are made and each comes out, Babe waves and smiles at CoCo and they share a mutual laugh across the room. When the stars last bow is taken in the center of the house with a shirt strip, Babe ends up in front of us. He’ll return when the lights some up and say hello and (if he even remembers) doesn’t mention our encounter several years back. My opinion based on only two shows so far - Moonlight has got its groove back. CoCo and I walk back to Quarter Silom. We discuss what we saw, overall opinions are similar, CoCo noting that each management sets its priorities, styles, to attract the best audience mix for its economics. He observes that Good Boys likes a full house and fills it with boys who then compete for the patrons who will buy drinks or the boys. Back at the hotel, CoCo is as stunning as people have been informing me all night. He does voice some irritation that it was apparent to him that I was interested in him and could see that the Viet ground forces has me surrounded like Dien BienPhu. Then he notes that he was able to get a full intelligence briefing on what I liked about stamp collecting and that he could teach me some moves I might like to learn. I LEARNED.

So, we safely returned from Koh Tao yesterday evening, 29 June 2024. There was no sex on this trip so if that is what you are looking for in this trip report then you can skip this article. We took a limo car service from Jomtien to the Suvarnabhumi airport hotel = Novotel, which is located within the airport, on Monday 24 June, as our flight was very early on Tuesday. Also, it was an excuse for me to meet my Thai volleyball friend's mother and sister, as they took a taxi down from the nearby province to eat dinner and hang out with us at the Novotel. I always enjoy meeting the family members of my friends as it helps me to understand better their nuances - as an important human trait is to be indoctrinated by our family. Next morning we were up early and took the Novotel shuttle over to the Bangkok Airways check - in counter. All went well. On our way to go through the domestic security, I was emptying out all of my pockets of metallic items into my backpack when I realized that my small bag was missing, which had my documents and cash for our trip. So, panic ensued and my friend and I ran out of the airport (our luggage already checked in) and took a VIP urgent taxi back to the Novotel to open my room safety lockbox to retrieve the missing bag and the same VIP taxi took us back to the airport. We had a good laugh after we got through security and still had 30 minutes to spare before boarding for our flight to Koh Samui commenced. Travel modalities - plane, taxi, & ferry Flight was good and non-eventual and we landed just 10 minutes late at the Koh Samui airport - which if you have never been there is an outdoor open-air airport complex. The only other airport that I have seen that is similar is in Hawaii. The airport was all decked out for their Pride Nation celebration, to be celebrated on 29 September 2024 --> which will become important at the end of this trip report. Then we took a short 20 minute taxi ride over to the Pralan Pier to catch our Lomprayah ferry. https://lomprayah.com/timetable We were very surprised to find out that this catamaran type of fast ferry service offered by Lomprayah, can also originate from Bangkok (near the famous Khao San backpack haven road) for a total transit time of 10 hours by bus + ferry (1 stop from the Chumphon Pier to Koh Tao) - which explains why we saw a plethora of backpackers on Koh Tao. Our catamaran high speed ferry took 2 hours from Koh Samui to Koh Tao - which consists of 2 stops: Koh Pha Ngan - which was about a 30 minute ride - but as the ferry was super packed we probably had a layover of 20 minutes - as this is the famous "Full Moon" party island, there were a gazillion young and sexy backpackers exiting and then entering onto the ferry. What slows everything down is the moving of luggage from the ferry up onto the pier BEFORE they let the passengers off of the ferry. Koh Tao - which took up the remainder of the travel time. Upon entering at Koh Tao - one has the mental vision of a cramped pier town - somewhat dated back in time - that has a feel of like a pirate's or hippies town. The attraction of this island is the numerous diving centers, diving schools, and diving trips. The main port definitely needs an overhaul - because the wooden/cement passageways are just too narrow for the throngs of people that need to move about with their luggage in tow. Our resort transportation was waiting for us at the pier but we could not leave until all of the passengers were off of the catamaran with their luggage. My Thai friend is 30 years old and I am close to 63 - and I could feel that I was one of the oldest persons here on Koh Tao. Back in Pattaya, in the Jomtien Supertown Complex, I tend to be on the younger side of the local inhabitants. So, if you want to be surrounded by energetic youth - then Koh Tao and Koh Pha Ngan are for you. In addition, the majority of the workers on the island are almost ALL from Burma / Myanmar. My Thai friend was quite shocked to feel as a "foreigner" in his own country - because often when he spoke Thai - nobody understood him and replied in English. Our destination was the Jamahkiri Resort & Spa https://www.jamahkiri.com/ which is located at the southern tip of Koh Tao on the famous and beautiful "Shark Bay". We had 2 accommodations with stunning breathtaking views of Shark Bay. (overhead shot of our resort - note the numerous steps up and down - good to stay in shape) Photo of one of our 2 accommodations. Day one - as we arrived around 3pm and being very tired, we just hung out at the enormous resort and explored the grounds, rented motorbikes for 4 days, and went to 7-Eleven to stock up our room refrigerator. While driving around on the main road - we could not find what is known as the party zone - as we were not looking in the right place. Day two - determined to find the party zone - we realized that there was a parallel beach road - to the primary big road. This beach road was more like a side walk that meandered through all of the various bars and restaurants, and hotels on Sairee Beach. We parked our motorbikes and walked on this pedestrian walkway and eventually by accident we ran into the famous "Big Rock", where those awful murders of the 2 Brits took place. The hairs on my arm stood up and I told my Thai friend, when we return here in the night time let us stay away from this area - I just had a bad feeling - but probably just paranoia. While walking around there were signs everywhere for the local Pride celebration festivities at the Lotus bar https://www.facebook.com/Lotusbeachbarkohtao/ and so, we returned later that night to see what it was all about. Well, it was so packed, as they were having a Koh Tao bar crawl - so the bar was full of young university farangs who were there to party and celebrate. They had the traditional fire shows - but so many young farangs were so drunk it is amazing that none of them ran into the swinging fire balls. Lot's of eye candy to look at - but I was the oldest person there and I just enjoyed the view and energy. 1719757309817[1].mp4 During the day we rode our motorbikes across the island to the opposite coast to snorkel and swim at Ao Hin Wong - Freedom Bar beach https://www.islandtravelkohtao.com/koh-tao-beaches/hin-wong-bay This was a real hippie beach as you could smell whiffs of weed everywhere, relax on a blanket or beach chair, swim in the water that was FULL of coral with amazing colorful fish to look at. It was truly a great experience here. Afterwards, we drove up the steep mountain on dirt rugged rutted roads. This really tested my motorbike skills - as my heart was racing and I was so tense - but I was with my Thai friend who was also my motorbike instructor to prepare me for my trip to Da Nang, Vietnam back in April - so I wanted to make him proud. But, at a certain point, the dirt road just became too steep for me to feel comfortable, that I just parked my motorbike and walked the rest of the way which was only like 100 meters more - until we arrived at the Jim View Bar overlook and Mango viewpoint - https://www.islandtravelkohtao.com/viewpoints/jim-view-bar Day three - Late morning wake-up after the previous night watching the youngsters party. Just rode our motorbikes back to the main Sairee Beach pedestrian road, as we wanted to get our souvenir shopping out of the way, eat a nice lunch at one of the beach restaurants, and to get a massage (professional clean one for my Thai friend). Back to our resort to relax and enjoy the resort. Day four - Today I was determined for us to rent a kayak and to kayak over to the Shark Beach area - which is within view from our resort and was very enticing. You could see that this is where the really rich people enjoyed the nature. While laying on the pristine white sand beach, a Thai family was near us and they had a professional private photographer who was photographing their family of 3 adorable children and the husband and wife. The husband would speak to the 3 children both in English and Thai. Just like at the other beaches - when you walk out in between the coral structures you could see amazing fish and marine life in full amazing colors - hence the reason why Koh Tao has its tourist allure for nature and diving. Back to the Sairee Beach pedestrian road to eat, buy last minute items, as we depart tomorrow morning. My Thai friend decided to get a massage and I decided to return to the resort by myself on my motorbike - hahahahaha - and guess what, I fall down on the turn from the main road for the road that goes to our resort. Thank God nothing was hurt - me or the motorbike. I got up and was ready to go - but my pride was hurt - as a very sexy young farang ran over to me and said, Mister, are you ok ? do you need me to help you up. I replied, no I am ok (but inside my ego was hurting). I was too embarrassed to tell my Thai friend what happened later that evening - until AFTER the motorbike company came to pick up their motorbikes - and I could breath a sigh of relief as they did not find any damages - and then in that moment I told my Thai friend what happened. Went to bed early as we had to already be packed with our luggage at the front desk by 8:30am and already had breakfast. Day five - Check out was a breeze, and then the resort took us back to the main Koh Tao pier (Mae Haad) so that we could check-in and then wait for us to be allowed onto the 9:30am catamaran ferry boat for Koh Samui. Again, it took 2 hours with the longest part from Koh Tao to Koh Pha Ngan and then 30 minutes more to Koh Samui. As mentioned on Day one of this trip - we did not know the significance of today, 29 June 2024. It was Koh Samui's Pride Nation festival and when our ferry arrived into the Pralarn Pier we were greeted with large festive Gay Pride decorations. @reader, we somehow missed this news broadcast with all of the other Thai Pride announcements. It was now 11:30am and our flight for Bangkok wasn't until 5:25pm, so I convinced my Thai friend for us to go to Chaweng Beach, where all of the Pride Nation festivities were being prepared. The gay parade would not start until 4pm, and we would already need to be at the airport, we were able to catch some of the gay festivities. Had I known prior to making all of these bookings for this trip, I would have had us stay the night, 29 June, so that we could have participated in the Pride Nation festivities. As was the case in Pattaya, Pattana who owns the various Central shopping centers in Thailand was the main driving force behind the Pride Nation celebrations in Koh Samui. Here is a Youtube video of what we missed because we had to depart on Pride Nation day. and the party info: https://www.pridenationsamuifestival.com/ Summary Would I return to Koh Tao? Yes, it was a unique fantastic place. But I would combine it with a longer trip to nearby Koh Pha Ngan - to see the Full Moon Party and to spend more time on Koh Samui - as I see that their gay center in Chaweng beach is much bigger than when I was last there back in 2014. Would you change anything if you returned to Koh Tao? Yes, I might change the travel modality to fly from Bangkok to Chumphon airport - because then the ferry ride only requires 1 stop - Chumphon then Koh Tao. Did I ever feel to be in danger? Not really, but we made sure to stay away from those mafia bars where the prior incidents occurred, and I had a Thai person with me to watch over me - as I believe that all of the 24 murders to date on Koh Tao were to non-Thais. A funny story. A guy on Hornet wrote to me who works on Koh Tao and he was really pushing for a hookup. I was not interested and he was insistent. On one of his messages he wrote to me, I see you with your Thai friend - I know where you are. That gave me the creeps. But, I compared his photo to the photos of the alleged Thai mafia killers and they are not similar at all - so I think that this was just a random weirdness situation. Gay activities - there was only the party at the Lotus Bar. In Grindr, Hornet, and Heesay, there were perhaps around 10 to 15 possible gays online on Koh Tao. However, the number greatly increased when looking on nearby Koh Pha Ngan (30 guys) and on Koh Samui (100 guys).

After the above panegyric to FreshBoys, my remaining days/nights in Bangkok settled into a routine. Thursday dinner at Mango Tree, then jazz club, the return to FreshBoys, I like to be with people who are enjoying life on the stage a in the audience, and performers in the audience. Thursday, the break from routine was to schedule as off with Nam for Friday afternoon. Friday afternoon, Nam came to the hotel. He arrived at early for our meet up. He stayed until almost 6! Don’t jumble to any conclusions! The intermingling of limbs was about the length of a massage. After he had expended himself, he rested his head on my arm, then he started snoring, turned over, stopped snoring. Woke up when CoCo arrived bringing his Pattaya backpack. Nam took a shower, three of us chatted about nothing. Nam left, CoCo and I went back for more German food. I said good bye to Pao, Jazz Club, Fresh Boys still full house. Seated tonight on opposite side of house. At end of show rotation, there were 22 boys in place of the 40 at opening. Numerous offs. CoCo and back to hotel for practice for Pattaya. Up in time to find driver from Mike’s arriving early (as anticipated). Arrived Pattaya to find that is the first day of a two day religious festival. No liquor can be sold, no entertainment venues are operating. We go to Dongtan, more folks on the sands. Hotel arranged for dinner for us two. After dinner we walked the darkened and empty Jomtien. I had been complaining from the drive began from Bangkok of a heavy deep chest cough. While not noticed at the beach, it came back with a vengeance once back at The Poseidon. Then came some chills and my mind goes “Damn I’m getting sick again in Thailand” and well damn it. Coco verified I had a termperature. My body made me sleep, cold sweats. My companion responded with hot and cold compresses, went out a found a pharmacy around 2 in the morning. This was repeated on Sunday. Monday the religious holiday was over and we visited Pattaya, the Walking Street, Boys Town, went back to the beach. Still not at 50%. Up Tuesday morning at 4 to catch my flight to Tokyo on my way to Osaka, where I’m writing this. with time changes, it was over 12 hours on airports and planes and waiting. I said a sorrowful good by. Coco was a health hero. I might get sentimental so I’ll stop. Tonight one of the “Japanese Boy Brothels” will enter my experience databank. Will report in the forum.

It’s now Thursday night and we convene on soi 4. Arrive in time to see Bananas manageres change the base drink price at Banana to 380 THB. Directly across the soi at G’s German Restaurant, Coco and I each choose the pork knuckle special which is a mini-mountain of food. Mostly meat. Good beers, conversation is light and I pick up some of the CoCo background information that I posted early in a reply to vinapu. We joust with Banana’s grabber and catch up on how his son is doing and growing. G’s owner has headed off to Pattaya I so didn’t get more time with him to take in his opinions. Skipping the strudel, we head to the jazz club for an hour of piano and singer melding into classics (e.g“Stardust” ). While at Groovin’ High, the jazz bar, we discussed where to go next. Three clubs still on my list to checkout: Stranger Bar, FreshBoys, & Hot Male. The Stranger Bar has moved from its narrow show case next to (?) Adam Massage to a much bigger appearing from the outside to the left of Jupiter. Decided to start at FreshBoys and depart in time to see Hot Male’s 2nd show. It’s been more than a year since I was at FreshBoys, I have many happy memories and a string of offs from the club’s locations and incarnations on both sides of Surawong. Minh is in his usual spot near to the stairs. I learn that the reason there ares shirtless boys at the top of the steps is both marketing and a cast holding area for the 40 boys in rotation. Inside it’s the same room, same layout, strong sound level, stage filled with boys in alphanumeric rotation 1 to 40 in order, unless someone has been called over for a drink or more. Mamasan sees me and orders boys off the sofa area immediately inside the entrance. We effusively greet one another and she does the same with CoCo. Once seated, I scan the rotation, by the end of a round I realize that over the past four or five years I’ve offed four of the boys and two of the waiters! The vibe in FreshBoys has an energy I haven’t encountered until now. The main seating area appears to be full of both paying customers and boys who are being treated to boy drinks. Seated where we are I see a constant coming and going of drink waiters. Number 40 in rotation is smiling broadly as he moves past. Since he’s handsome borderline cute with a big smile I indicate interest and mamasan has him on the sofa next to me. He’s from VietNam! Drink offered, drink accepted. His name is Nam (I’ll probably be able to remember it). Mamasan is very involved in how the show runs, interacts with the boys and is constantly chatting up the customers (of which there will be a steady flow in the next two hours. Once the rotation ends and the first of the 2 divas comes on stage, many of my ex offs stop by, I’m having a good time, Nam leaves to be in different acts, returns after each, he is first a dancer with a flower lei, then in the two guys and a diva number with each molesting and committing rapine, as clothes are shed. He will also be an a two guys in a shower scene but that will be later, and he’s one of the 9 in the big cock hit the pole festival. Yes, it reads as the same, rotation, diva, act with some sex, rotation, act with naked sex, diva, rotation, shower scene with more but soapy sex, ring the pole, pole ringers circulate for a top to touch their tips, diva and end the show with a rotation for the midnight show. During all this Nam returns to cuddle and unleash his smile. Hands encouraged to wander. I’m capitvated by the room’s vibrant vibe. I think that someone in Management took a pause, looked at what was on hand, and thought about making it flow and come alive. The mamasan is part of that as she is constantly on the move, encouraging the audience to chheer the boys when needed, to leading sing alongside with the grander diva numbers. There is still a crowd when lights come up to signal the end of the first show. Drinks have been mixed and served during the two hours we’ve been there. There might be money being made here. Maybe six boys leaving with customers. CoCo and I say our good byes…shirtless honor guard to the door and outside. Head to Hot Male since it’s right next door. I walk past the entrance - it was too well lit! Inside there are one mamasan and two managers and 20 boys in red trunks and maybe Hot Male logo T-shirt. Notice I have not mentioned the audience numbers. There were none! Guys are good looking, etc. Note: to vinapu, #10 the blonde god we both noticed and exchanged comments about was there! Even knowing I wasn’t going to be caught being the only customers , #IO called him over as he had spotted me when I spotted him (maybe before). A glorious piece of god’s craftsmanship!. I explained I couldn’t stay and gave him a remembrance vinapu tuck. Coco and I leave as the boys begins to perform the show (Indian temple dancers, remember?) One customer has arrived. We go back for a remedial stamp session as I process the last few hours.

Spent a few weeks in Manila and Boracay. This section isn’t very active, so thought I’d type up a quick report. Stayed in Makati in Manila, near the red light district. I would avoid this area. It’s very congested with traffic and filled with people asking for money and trying to sell you viagra and cialis on the streets. It’s not dangerous, but a stark difference when compared to BGC. Public transit is poor in the city so you will be taking Grab a lot. Walking is harder than in other Asian countries due. The traffic flow made more sense in Vietnam than here, for example. Sometimes the traffic light would be red, yet a traffic attendant would still be directing traffic to keep moving, even as a group of pedestrians tried to cross on a walk signal. It literally makes no sense, so don’t try and comprehend it. There is no “rule.” Even motorcycle drivers seem less capable of navigating around pedestrians as compared to Vietnam, where as long as you keep a steady pace, you can cross even the busiest streets. Most hotels have security/doormen. If you invite anyone over, they will often take the ID of your guest and register them in a log book. When the guest leaves, you will be checked on and made sure you’re okay before the guest is allowed to leave. You can get past this by walking your guest in and out, but if you are nervous of people knowing your business, keep in mind that it’s impossible to be discreet. I used Grindr only while here. It’s very active. In Makati, there were tons of profiles less than 500m away. If you are white, you will get 50 messages per day or more. the typical conversation goes like “Hello, where are you staying? What are you doing? Can I come now?” They don’t ask for photos or nudes or talk for long. If you’re white, they want you regardless of age or weight or dick size or sex position. Almost everyone is a “top.” The men are… well, not my type. When compared to other Asian countries, the men on the apps are young and cute-faced, with either thin bodies or chubby bodies. Their dicks are often quite small, 3-5” in length, but usually on the thicker side. Every is circumcised. They are often quite poorly done. The sex skill seems to be quite poor as well. Many tops (and even bottoms) will cum in a few minutes. Or they will fuck for a minute, take a break, fuck for a minute, take a break, etc. Many are into side fun, either cuddling or just receiving a blowjob. Normally I am for this, but the dicks are often not fun to suck due to their length and thickness. “Moneyboys” are available, or as they say, MT, or massage therapist. Many will offer you massage and extra services, where you pay one price for a massage, one price for a massage and sucking, and another price for massage and penetration. While I have no qualms with paying, I found it hilarious the guys offering these services. Often they were quite ugly, older, or very chubby. As someone who pays for big dicks or muscular builds, I could not find either for free OR paid. 200+ unique profiles messaged me, so it wasn’t due to lack of options. Many men are discreet here. They will either have no photo, a photo of scenery, an older photo from 10 years ago, or bad photos of themselves. Many times you will ask for nudes and they say “I don’t have.” You have a phone, right? Instead they will push you to come immediately. Avoid these encounters. If you invite someone over, expect them to stay a while, or try. Expect questions like “do you have a boyfriend?” Or “can we be boyfriends?” Within minutes of meeting. If you have sex, it’s not uncommon for them to say they love you. If they message you, be upfront about not being interested, otherwise they will continuously message you every single day, and sometimes even find your social media profiles and reach out there. I did not see a lot of foreigners in Manila. Many said they go to the islands. In Boracay though, it was the exact same. Many say the options are better here. This was not the case. While some of the locals are quite hot, dark skinned, lean and somewhat muscular, a little rough around the edges, these are the straight boat men. On the apps, it’s the same. Chubby, or older, or very young, and clingy. The beaches are beautiful and you don’t get harassed as much as other beach destinations, but this country is not one I’d go to for sex. Unless you are looking for smaller dicks, boys that will cling to you like you’re a trophy, and headaches, I’d say this is not your place.

As many have noted, the Saphan Kwai area is a target-rich environment for massage seekers. Although all the shops are on the basic side, SK makes up for it with lower prices and generally larger selections of masseurs than you’ll find elsewhere in town. Most of the guys are free lancers and you’ll find many of the same faces at multiple shops. Having said that, there are some all-male shops scattered about that have dedicated cadres of boys serving only their shop. Last night I booked a guy at 15M which is less than a five-minute walk from the BTS station. Booking is fairly easy via LINE. I sent them his name and photo and requested one hour for two hours later. After initially reporting that he was unable to contact him, he sent me a message a few minutes later saying the boy called back and was available so I booked him. When I arrived at appointed time,my guy and three others were in the shop, any of whom would have been acceptable to me. Rooms are small but adequate with mattress pad on floor and aircon. Showered separately down the hall. There was a large lock box on wall but no key. Pleased to report that the young man provided very good service with skill and affection, fulfilling my expectations. Showered together and took turns soaping each other. Overall, a very pleasant experience worth repeating and tipped above the posted minimum. Prices for an hour vary around the area from promotions as low as 250 to the highest I’m aware of at 550. But I think you’ll find the average about 400 which it is at 15M. Getting there is fairly simple from Saladeang with a change of trains at Siam. Travel time about 25 minutes and RT fare less than 100 baht.

Coco leaves pre-morning with thanks…actually with some kicking of myself. Why? Well, when I planned this trip I wrote “BUTTERFLY” 500 times on the blackboard of life. My well tested sense of commitment to a goal was already on FAILURE ALERT advising me that this guy was one who could erase the blackboard. Anyway he was out the door and I had a number of texts from other models who saw me in town. I booked a 2 hour combo Thai/Aroma massage at Prime. Then went shopping at Uniqlo with a stop at the Food Hall for a sit down pasta meal. When in Bangkok eat like a Roman. Back for my pummeling in the best way possible. The Prime empire has expanded. In the late late 90s I had a massage in the Thai style building at the soi 6 turning point, later the building across and to the right was added to the territory,, then the space adjacent that had been used for laundry was remodeled to be several massage rooms, then this space was expanded in the direction of Silom. As Reader mentioned earlier in another topic, 3 Teen Massage shops, 5 or 6 other brands, and the Prime conglomerate the concentration of massage power located on soi 6 is remarkable. For quantity it rivals Saphan Kwai area. After my brutalization at Prime, I responded to a text from CoCo that I was going to give tonight a pass and butterfly some shows and bars solo (MY BLACKBOARD was finger-nailing across my reserves of willpower). I had a pleasant meal and conversation at the French restaurant in Phatphong 2. Then stopped by the Hot Male and Fresh Boys street level bars to say hello and renew old acquaintances. Minh (speaking of old acquaintances) found me and suggested/urged/implored/did the disappointed bit to get me to drop into Fresh Boys. I said maybe later and headed to Hot Male for memories sake from the Twilight Days where I met Van of many memories and PaulSF. As I was about to go up the stairs the Hot Male pusher/greeter/ went after me with a pitch and questions why I wasn’t already there. Very strange behavior. I went up into the club. It’s been spruced up since last year. Sprucing up did not appear to have enhanced audience numbers. I didn’t recognize the mamasan or any of the managers. I backed out saying I’d be back and weaseled out, headed for the Fresh Boys stair to avoid the Hot Make stairs greeter. At FreshBoys, I observed that many of the “models” were seated outdoors shirtless. Enticing and when Minh appeared out of no where I took his suggestion and went in. Same room, same everything as last year. same mamasan - which is a good thing as she has never failed but to be fun in her exchanges with me, somehow always finding a great seat for me adding a few model suggestions tailored to me. 40 models all lined up in neat numerical order for rotation. Almost as many as Good Boys but with a less over whelming effect due to the room’s larger capacity. As the models were in rotation, mamasan and I conferred and two boys came over to keep me company. Neither would work out for an off…and at some point my blackboard collapsed. I tipped the boys, both nice guys, wishing them well in their careers. Telling mamasan that I’d be back to see the full show, I departed, to find Minh to tell me, Caliban that he is, that had told CoCo I was in the ‘hood and steered me to Good Boys where CoCo emerged in a cloud of blackboard chalk dust. Narrative will now pause as I need to run some errands and a rain storm is due.

Updated Jomtien Complex Map for July 2024. A number of closures and a few new additions, including Fun Size Bar and soon to open East Lounge. See you in the complex soon.

Vinapu has you well informed with his advice and you're in the right area with the hotel. We share the twink preference so i'll just give my opinion on where i put my order Gogos Freshboys - always a selection worth checking Dreamboys - very close second, some would put first Banana - hit or miss for me but usually someone there worth going for I haven't been to Good Boy and some of the others, but do provide a report if you go Massage I start my stroll from Patpong along Surawong Rd and then down Than Tawan, always works ok. The couple of shops on Surawong usually seem to have more twinks, but i haven't been back since December. Clubs DJ Station usually has some freelancers or free to play guys, especially fri and sat Bars down Soi 4 (same soi as banana), sometimes you'll find freelancers or free to play Grindr and the apps are usually just as busy as Vietnam. Tips vary from boy to boy and venue to venue, I usually just ask and then give them a bit more on top if i want to see them again.

I’ve been absent from this forum for more than a year, it’s time to return to Thailand - which I will on July 12 before heading to Japan at the end of the month. Looking forward to meeting Forum members and meeting up with friends I’ve made over the past decade.

From Bangkok Post New landmark in Dusit district to serve as another ‘green lung’ for the capital, as well as a reminder of King Rama IX’s contributions to forest protection and water resource management Thais are looking forward to the completion of a public park in remembrance of His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej the Great, which is expected to become a major new landmark in Bangkok. Designed as a forest park covering 279 rai in Dusit district, thousands of new trees will provide the capital with another much-needed “green lung” where people from near and far can unwind from the hustle and bustle of the city and get in touch with nature. The park will be dotted with reminders of King Rama IX and Her Majesty Queen Sirikit the Queen Mother, which will give visitors an opportunity to learn about their contributions to forest and water resource management. The park will be a welcome addition to Bangkok’s green landscape, alongside Lumpini Park in Pathumwan district and Benjakitti Park in Klong Toey district, observers say. In November 2021, the Bureau of the Royal Household unveiled a virtual design for the public park, which is expected to be completed by the end of 2024.

We now know who was responsible.

Im finishing up my three-week trip in northeast of Brazil: Fortaleza, Natal, Recife and Joao Pessoa. I’ll maybe do a full report later when I have time. But now sitting at the airport waiting for my flight to Rio, I’ll just report a bit the hilarious dorama situation here. Dorama basically means tv soap opera from Japan, and K-drama (or dorama coreano) from Korea. It seems it has been quite a hit here, especially amount younger crowds (I’d estimate up to late 20s). Now when I look back at my previous trips in other parts of Latin America, it might has been a more general situation. I got quite some attention walking on the street, Mexico, Colombia, Peru, etc, especially from young girls. They would giggle among themselves pointing at me and occasionally brave ones would ask me for a selfie together. I never put too much thought into it, until this trip. Things got a lot weirder. I am neither Japanese nor Korean. But I do have a typical extreme-orient look, pale skin, slender built, and longer hair (mostly because I’m doing long trips and need to style it with products). I’m over 40 yo yet with a boyish face. Most of Dorama’s actors are of my age anyway, playing roles much younger. Lol. Since Fortaleza, I started getting messages such as ‘oh my gosh. You look so dorama!’ I actually had to google dorama to know what it is. I have zero interest in it and consider it a bit waste of time. But the more photos I check, the better I understand their confusion. At first I would reply something like ‘I’m not Japanese nor Korean’. After I while I just gave up and replied simply ‘thank you’. I was extremely popular among young guys here (probably even more among young girls if I were in a different app). I don’t know if I should feel flattered or annoyed. I kept on feeling that I were cheating and would disappoint if I met with those fans. Then I found out, lots of the guys I met, who didn’t cream ‘dorama’, actually met me for the very reason anyway. The most ridiculous situation was the last boy I met in Joao Pessoa. He was staring at my face the whole time, while we were talking, while we were taking shower, and above all while we were fucking. He sucked me staring at me. He fucked me staring at me. And above all, he only wanted to be fucked on his back so he could stare at me. I started to understand the ‘no bbc fantasy’ attitude of some Afro-Americans. Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not complaining. I actually am very grateful that my Japanese and Korean brothers created this illusion of oriental beauty.

Editorial note: I wrote this section of the report, thought I’d hit submit reply, but unable to find it. So…here’s another go… OK, OK! Too much drama, the chalk dust was a metaphor for my loss of will power. Standing outside of Good Boys, Coco and I had a brief conversation about getting together the next night and the where and whens logistics…and that was that… for the moment. He went back to work and I went off to Dream Boys. 600 THB!!! Dream boys back when it was both a destination and the star in the Twilight nights was always pricier than its competitors - but it had upmarket cache. Tonight, I entered a large and what seemed to be an audience starved venue, finding the waiters not so subtlety hawking bottles and settling for getting the customer (me) his watered entry fee libation. Drink delivered, a jacketed manager lingered to provide information on the “artists” and their “talents”. I didn’t conduct any in depth fact checking. The boys (maybe 40 or so) in rotation were visibly not engaged with the audience and definitely on low power. The show was as the boys say “same same” as the same same somewhere else. Here’s something I never thought I’d think or say: BRING BACK MAMA LUCY! When this dynamo was bossing around the boys, the staff and the guests for the pre-Dream Boy owners of the venue things moved, visitors got caught up and pulled into the activity, the sounds, the lighting, the drama, and being instructed to buy Mama Lucy a beverage! The comparison of today to then is stark. Maybe, something after the middle of the show created a WOW! Moment, I don’t know as I was down the stairs, out the door, and back into the “real world” of a Patpong night. I stopped by the street level bar that’s connected to Fresh Boys and had a drink with the waiters. Then back to my hotel to sleep alone. Next morning after breakfast, it was up and out and errand filled. I went to Prime for a foot massage which allowed me to go to Reader’s designated massage value area of Saphan Kwai and a return to KMan spa. When I got to Good Boys, CoCo and two mamasans were outside along with a mix of boys and waiters and girls from the various new clubs and girl bars that have opened in the last year. I paid the off fee (500 THB) and CoCo and I were off for some food and to catch the show at Jupiter. On entering soi 4, we were pulled in quickly with a wai from the Banana greeter/grabber. I began to introduce CoCo but found out there was no need as he was already known and a favorite. Same with the owner of the German restaurant, I was recalled as vinapu’s companion at a dinner, CoCo’’s given a hug and an exchange of stories, repeated experiences as we move toward Jupiter. Pao comes over and greets us both, telling CoCo he’s been away too long (?!!?). We get to Jupiter, I buy the entry/first drink coupon, which is never a real coupon, we’d arrived thirty minutes before show time and are entertained by a singer. CoCo had gotten the host to seat us right behind the primo bottle service tables to the right side of the stage. The area provides a direct view into the dressing and weight rooms. There is a steady stream of Jupitereans dropping by to say hello to CoCo and as they do, I learn some more about my companion. He’d once in the not too distant past been a Jupiterean. During the parade of artists circling and intersecting in and with the audience Coco received a steady stream or fist bumps/Thailand equivalents. I didn’t notice any major changes to the show room since last year. The runway stage is surrounded on tree sides by tables with seating that is occupied by bottle holders, There are three with two patrons each, one with one grande dame presiding, one with three patrons, and one that is filled in with 6 as the show starts - similar I suppose to how the Academy Awards have a pool of extras to fill seats during the show when the stars go to poop, keeping the place looking full. Beyond this first row, the tiered seating to the right and left of the stage is full at about 80%. The seats directly facing the stage but behind the front rows is sparsely seated. Show is/was much as I remembered it. The hula hoop guy which I gushed about several years back is now looking wan and a bit ancient history. There were no real “wows” but no real horrors. Just a well tended to entertainment that attracted more women than men to make up the audience.

I can confirm that a gentleman who resides in same condo as myself did arrive today, July 17, and was given 60 days, visa exempt.

Finally made it there. Confirmed address on Line, it is Sukumvit 4 Alley. The Aunty at the desk wanted to charge 1490B again, I quoted the rainy season price of 1000B and she just shrugged her shoulders and said ok. Minimum tip is 2000B due to the boys being models:) Took me up to the 3rd floor and asked to wait. The room was great with a standard massage table and ensuite. Waited a few minutes for my massuer to arrive. I was not dissapointed. His pics were undoubtably touched up, but they were recent and he looked better in person. Showered solo, then started the massage, him fully clothed. Did a lot of streching and compression which felt great. At some stage he stripped completly and started with a more sensual massage, playing with my ass and cock. He was very good, using his mouth as well. He was adverised as a top, but as we progressed he said he wanted me to fuck him, which i was happy to do. He put a condom on me and lowered himself down. It was a great experiance, he was very passionate, happy to kiss and was hard the entire time. I told him I wanted to try him out, so he happily slipped on a franger and gave it to me. We swapped roles a few times, with us both climaxing when I topped him. It was a really enjoyable experiance. Not only was he hot, but he made the effort to either make a connection or fake one. Either way it was still cool. I tipped 3000B as we went way over time and I really enjoyed myself. Would I go back again? Definately. I couldnt work out how to pay the online deposit but that was no issue, just paid cash when I got there. I'd love to go back and have round two, bur there are just so many hot guys here! We shall see. Pics show the entrance and the room. They have at least 4 with similar setup.

That’s the best news I’ve had all week! lol

The cliche “you can take the boy out of Thailand (fee free to substitute any country) but you can’t take Thailand out of the boy” seems to apply here. Observe Thai—or ASEAN generally—boys gather to eat, drink or just hang out. They are very affectionate with one another and enjoy themselves immensely. Some may succeed in emigrating to another county by various means but they will forever be drawn emotionally to their homeland. As we follow this thread from the beginning, I’m again reminded of something I believe Floridarob mentioned in a post a while back about the difference between love and sex, and the importance of not equating the two. in my 22 years of visiting Thailand, I’ve come to know quite a few guys outside the bars and massage shops. I truly enjoy their friendship and envy their relationships with their peers. That has granted me insight into the boundaries of these associations as they pertain to me. I know I can’t take Thailand home with me but I also know that I’ll be returning as long as I’m able.

I was first introduced to Thailand and Pattaya when I was 39, 26 years ago. My flat mate of several years in London and a group of his friends all travelled together. My flat mate had AIDS and was really not well, but so enjoyed embarrassing me by dragging me into the go go bars where young gentlemen flashed their hard willies in my face, and he laughed his head off when I blushed so much my glasses steamed up! We got back to London in mid May and he died in July. After travelling to Thailand twice a year for several years for great holidays I fell for a bar boy, brought him to visit me in London for a month and the following year brought him to London and we entered our Civil Partnership in Chelsea Town Hall Registry Office, with all my friends attending and throwing a party for us. That was in December, and the following year in August he said he missed Thailand too much and he flew back home and I never saw him again. When I retired twelve years ago and moved to live in Pattaya I promised myself I would never fall in love again, and I lasted over a year, enjoying lots of fun with many money boys. Then I fell again, but this time I knew it was one sided, and of course I couldn't expect a young man half my age to live with me, so I payed for his room, and supported him while also encouraging him to work, as he did as a receptionist in a hotel. It lasted over six years until I found out he was gambling a lot. I payed his debts three times and then broke off our relationship. His last message to me was to ask for 50,000 Baht....... Broke my heart, so I am living alone and happy now with friends and a comfortable life.

I always make it a point to compliment guys on their tats. Last night at Phetboy, I paused massage to translate message to him and he broke out into broad smile. Making people feel good about themselves is never a bad thing.

Hi Emiel, Good to see that you returned to our forum. It is addictive. If it was not for my "Boot Camp" training incentive from Vinapu, I would have never met Khim - as Khim is an only SalaDeng / Silom person and I tend to be a, "I need to be near the sea and never lose eye contact with the sea" person - and we would have never met otherwise. So, it was worth it to go into grimy and wet Bangkok with Vinapu to find these hidden muscle gems --> which is not the norm here in Pattaya - as this tends to be more a "twink heaven" kind of place. Consequently, the beauty of seeing the sea is more important for me than the beauty of sexy hot muscles. The longer I am in Pattaya - I find myself starting to enjoy the twinks more and more - which was a no-no for me in the past..... Currently, I am grooming a new 23 year old Twink that I met into being a GREAT edger. The Edging sexual practice is VERY rare in Thailand - unlike back in Europe and the USA, so, when he edged me on his own volition - I was like - WOW - I need to keep this guy. He did not realize his own Edging talents, or how he acquired them, but I am helping him to capitalize on them as he truly gives some AMAZING Edging orgasms with his lovely twink hands..... Regarding those beautiful muscle guys, I just wait until those BKK guys come on over to Pattaya for a visit - as they often do - as they also need to escape from the grim of BKK.

Unlike many of us here, at least he has some hair to dye. 🙂

First Few Days Recap: Day 1: Great Hit and One Miss --- Checked into my hotel at The Quarter Silom. Went for a walk and after circling the block a bit decided to try out 9-Teen Massage, due to all the twinks outside. Asked for a bottom from the mamasan, and was able to pick from 3 guys. Chose one but ended up finding out that he was actually a Top, after the massage started...so it was a long 60-mins. Total was 1200 with Tip. ---Decided to try the apps instead and found a bottom. He apparently worked at a nearby club/spa, Super Boy. Had a great time and total was 1500. Day 2: Tried our 15M Massage ---booked using LINE and was able to pick from multiple in the online catalogue. Overall great experience. Great massage actually and lots of fun afterwards. Total due to promotion 1400 with Tip. Day 3: Lets see what happens hehe

Only thing I’d add for twink admirers is Good Boy has good representation.

They were probably shocked by the amount of other people's DNA that registered.... thank goodness there wasn't a throat swab 🙈

Everywhere is located near the metro. Have you never seen a Tokyo subway map? 🤣 PS If you need to get cash from an ATM, the 7Bank ones inside 7-11 stores don't charge for using foreign cards.

Chicken with nuts plate looks yummy. Vote Trump advice generates urge to vomit though ( not related to dish just consumed)

Recife Recife, the capital of Pernambuco in Northeast Brazil, is often referred to as the "Venice of Brazil" due to its waterways and bridges. While in Recife, one is likely to visit Marco Zero and from there it only cost 10rs to take a water taxi to Parque de Esculturas Francisco Brennand, a small island featuring works of the famous Brazilian sculptor. I spent three days in this city with a Brazilian friend, with the main purpose of the trip being to meet him and lift his spirits. Depression and poverty can be a dangerous combination. Unfortunately, that also meant cutting back on my visits to saunas. I only visited Termas Boa Vista on my last night in the city, despite being a week night, the visit was a success. Uber is a must in this region of Brazil, the sun sets early in July, the touristic neighborhood of Recife felt okay but on the way to TBV, I passed through some questionable neighbors that look dangerous especially at night. TBV itself felt secured, clean, and the management is welcoming. The bar area in TBV had live music and the acoustics was pleasant. The drinks were about 1/2 the price of SP and Rio and the suite was superior in comparison. There were only about seven GPs working, in general the men in NE brazil felt very masculine, more tan, and don't flash their smile as freely as Cariocas. Despite with only 7 GP on premise, I had 3-4 candidates in mind. I came to an agreement with J very quickly and we went to the presidential suite. I was blown away by the amount of passion that came from J inside the suite, easily the best kisser I ever encountered in Brazil. As @ShivRoy stated in his report, the GPs accept 100r without haggling. It was the right choice to visit TBV on my last night and I wish I had more days in Recife because during the weekend, TBV stays open until 6 AM! Overall, I can see Recife becoming a repeat destination in the future.

I choose massage over offs most of the time and I reserve at lest 10 minutes to reverse roles and massage the masseur. On occasion some guys present particularly well-muscled bodies that cause me to to extend the time I allow myself this pleasure. And it not just the hunks who can present me with this type of passive satisfaction.,. Twinks and twunks can also come with solid muscle tone that cries out to be touched. I've also found that the recipient not infrequently becomes more affectionate as a result of the experience that they normally don't find themselves receiving. But be forewarned: this can lead to sex.🙂

After the Jupiter final march out concluded and the show ended to prep for the next one, we lingered which gave CoCo a chance to introduce me to his Burmese compatriots who are working on the runway as models or are in the sport jacket of the night as managers (bar captains). All seemed to be genuinely nice and looking out for each other. Wondering if the Burmese and this era’s Viets? Out of the club, we spend some time talking with folks either or both of us know one way or another. At my hotel we delve into research on stamps from the British period in Malaya. Decently satisfactory practical and theoretical learning. Next morning, (Wednesday for those - like me - trying to keep track of life), CoCo out to his market helper job before breakfast. I skip the hotel’s 249 THB buffet and pick and choose from the carts on Patpong. Back at the hotel it’s time to update this report and answer DMs. I turn on Planet Romeo, I turn off Planet Romeo. All Money Boys! Yes, that’s really not any different than meeting a boy (boys) in the clubs, but I prefer to pick and choose - which, it appears - I’ve already done. Oh, and we are confirmed for Pattaya this weekend. Could be interesting as CoCo says he’s only been there for an overnight tour in a group which went only to Walking Street. He’s not familiar with the beaches, Jomtien, or Boystown. Rest of day is errands, some work on reports for a project at home and continuing investigation of the boy agencies in Osaka. I’ll have four or five nights not committed to my Chinese friends and touring with them and their 8 year old son. The post in the Forum’s Gay Japan section entitled “List of gay brothels…” caught my attention when I was thinking about this trip. As a result, I did and am continuing doing research. Several agencies are only in Osaka (where I be based); some are both local and national. I looked at 15 but narrowed my focus to Fragrance-boy.com and Chancesosaka.jp sites which have English versions, English translations, quality pictures, links to reviews and boy’s twitter, and comments from the boy and the manager. They respond to questions (Chance even sending additional photos). The boy’s work schedule is up for the week ahead, it appears to will be easy (?) to book, pricing is right on the page. What the boys are willing to do or not do and how good they are judged to be at their individual skills, rooms at agency, or at your home, or in a hotel, or a love hotel? - all these non-Thai informational channels have pulled me down a time sucking- hole. Time to pull myself out of this hole, doing something outside in the fresh air, then return to my report. Three items tonight: dinner, drinks, and clubbing.

With another day to go on a four-day visit to Da nang with my LT Ha Tinh friend, can wholeheartedly endorse this location if rest and relaxation is your objective. Good hotels can be obtained at very attractive rates and the tropical climate is inviting. The breakfast buffets are served until 10:30 but we found ourselves getting up at 8 to get an early start. You’ll find tons of places offering seafood on the main boulevard that runs along the beach. However, we opted to walk 15 minutes inland to the residential area where we ate with locals at Foodland prices (would have never found these on my own). The waters are warm and clear. Favorite activity is long barefoot walks along water’s edge as the sun recedes. As for eye candy, it’s on display in abundance. Particularly noticeable are the stunningly handsome groups of South Korean young men who find Da nang an attractive playground. Many Thais also make the short hop. And of course many farang singles and families. The beach at 8 this morning.

Thanks, @Riobard for those kind words. Lap dances inject scaling into bars' product offer - that's what started me on this suggestion. It's like this: most businesses would try to offer a range of products to suit different budgets. For example, airlines have first class, business class, premium economy, economy. and then major airlines often have a low-cost subsidiary too. Shampoo makers usually have different brands at different price points, and each brand may have different bottle sizes, again to cater to a diverse market. Less visible is that the lower end of the product ranges are used to generate volume and thus spread the fixed costs. What has struck me about gogo bars in Thailand is that they really have just one product and one price point - the off fee (500 baht?) and after that, the compensation to the boy, now averaging 2000 - 2500 baht. If the customer is not prepared to spend that amount, the customer gets next to no satisfaction from a visit. It's an all-or-nothing set-up. There are potentially plenty of customers who could be attracted with additional product offers. For example, a customer who has come from a massage with happy ending, and (being older, perhaps) does not think it worthwhile to off a boy for another full-service bed-romp. Or a customer, e.g. from a middle-income country, who is travelling in a group and sharing a room. He can't take a boy back. Lap dances can pull some spending out of these customers and provide some thrill and fun, even if not the full works. In turn, a reputation for lap dancing pulls more customers into a bar, and drink sales go up (generate volume and spread the fixed costs - rent, wait staff). It's equally important to see it from the other angle. For the boys working in bars, it's currently also a ridiculous all-or-nothing set-up. They either hit jackpot on the night they're on duty (with an off) or go home empty handed, save for a 100-baht tip or two. Lap dances allow them to earn a bit more (e.g. 400 baht for 10 minutes?), and they can serve more than one customer a night, so that there is a lower risk of a night with no income and having to go back to his lodgings with empty pockets. This makes the bar attractive for boys to work in. The bar can also attract boys to work there who are happy to give lap dances but are otherwise reluctant to be taken out i.e. boys who would exhibit and interact superficially to make money but don't do full sex. This can be a two-edged sword for the bar's reputation, but if carefully managed can still work. Sorry @Kiwi306 that I am going off topic. Personally I don't think there is any worthwhile erotic entertainment in Thai gogo bars anymore. The only one I can think of is X-boys Pattaya, but it's quite rough at the edges. Beware too, the last time I was there, the off fee was 800 baht!

I can't really speak to massage spas and bars because I was inundated by messages on Grindr as soon as I arrived, but I can speak a little to guest-friendliness... I stayed at the Holiday Inn and Suites at Makati (June 2024) after a recommendation from this website and although there was security doing checks at every entry point, I was never questioned when I met a guy off site and then took him in with me and escorted him out again. Unfortunately each new guy I brought back to my room ever expanded the grins on the faces of the security people, especially the female ones for some reason, and although it was a bit embarrassing the thought of sucking this hot guy's cock or getting fucked by him very soon was enough to get through that... I would meet my hook up very close by, such as at the entrance to Glorietta Mall next door and say to security that he was my friend as we were having our bags "searched" (opened and then they poke around with a stick for 2 seconds.) On the few occasions I didn't meet my hook up outside and bring him in personally (I was initially waiting for them at the elevators), security would either keep his ID until he went back out or if somehow he got in without handing his ID, they would actually detain him on the way out until he provided my name and room number so they could check I was OK. One guy never checked the room number on the way out and Grindr was delaying messages as usual so he was detained by security for ten minutes before he could get through to me, and then security rang my room to check all was OK. I took a walk by and drive by of several other hotels in the surrounding areas and they looked to have even tighter security with airport style metal detectors at the door, and I was told that some hotels do not allow visitors to guest rooms at all... Hotel security was the stand out difference for me in Manila, especially compared to Bangkok (Ibis Styles Silom) where I would just meet a hook up at the bottom of the elevators and then he would see himself out with no issues at all (Dec 2023). But then I found Filipino guys so much less transactional than Thai guys - not one of my hook ups asked for money even for a ride to get there. They really really get in to having their cock sucked, which I know sounds strange, because don't all guys? Yeh, but it seems on another level with Filipino guys and I am happy to help them out! ...

War, offensives, politics, corruption. You name it and they combine to deaden our senses to humanity. This one story won’t reverse that but it reminds us what truly matters. From The Thaiger Thai teen caring for his grandmother receives public support Generous individuals rallied to support a devoted Thai teen who put his education on hold to care for his ailing grandmother. The 15 year old Ae’s daily struggle involves walking barefoot for over 14 kilometres to collect and sell recyclable materials to support his grandmother and younger siblings. The family lives in a modest house in a rural area, lacking both electricity and running water. Kind-hearted residents from various provinces sent a substantial amount of essential items to Ae and his family. Donations included clothes, shoes, school supplies, rice, dried food, and other everyday necessities. Ae expressed his heartfelt gratitude to the benefactors. “I am overjoyed and deeply thankful to everyone who has helped us. Your kindness has allowed me to return to school.”

When I returned to live in Australia I left all my friends behind in Japan. Suddenly I found myself totally alone, having no family or relatives here. Life-long friendships are normally formed with those with whom you went through school /university and, of course, I didn't have anyone here. I was in total despair and desperate for company and found myself constantly flying back to Japan just to meet up with friends. In Japan one of my hobbies was car racing. After I bought my first car here I immediately joined a car club and it was here that I made my first friends. We'd go on drives together and participate in various club events and car rallies and races, I then bought another car and subsequently joined their car club and made even more friends. Through these new friends I was introduced to other activities and my circle of friends expanded expeditiously. I now do a lot of volunteer work so have a new group of friends. So the answer to lonliness is, as Caeron said, getting involved. If you don't have a hobby, find one and then join a club dedicated to that hobby. Volunteering would be an easy way to start meeting people. But you have to be proactive and get off your bum and make the first move. Friends won't come to you; you have to make an effort.

your loss....keep your wits about you, as you should anywhere and don't feed the Gremlins after midnight, tons of people go without incident.,,, Medellin seems safer than a dozen years ago, to me.

sounds like me

I've never booked in advance, sometimes if i know i'm going back to see someone and i've got their Line already i'll let them know i'm coming at X time, but I don't attempt to reserve through the shop directly. Some shops do have Line accounts where you can reserve, other members might have some links. Massage shops will have the guys sitting out the front on plastic seats waiting for you to walk by, just walk up and if you like someone ask for massage with him. I'll sometimes stand there looking at the menu pretending i'm not just going to get an oil massage while i look at the available staff. Just make your selection clear, i had an unfortunate experience where I ended up with someone i really didn't want because I wasn't explicit in who i wanted. I was too shy to reject him when he got to the room so it was a looooong 60 mins. Afternoon or evening is when most staff are there, some might hang around earlier in the day eating lunch or whatever but selection is usually lower.

Au contraire! Once I had more after guy left. He forgot his braces ...

Oops, got cut off... 2. Repeat performances are much more likely to fail. Perhaps one's expectations run too high, or perhaps it is boredom (I've seen this movie before) or ...? Of course perhaps passion can persist, for a week, for a month, for a year, even forever (I've been with my bf for over 30 years!) but in general the likelihood of failure is greater. 3. The more early conversation turns to protracted price negotiations, the more fraught the encounter is likely to be. High fees usually correlate to low performance. 4. Language fluency is not a measure of success. What do you think? Marc

Her speech in Wisconsin was great. The Trumpards must be worried.

The buildings have not changed. They have remained the same for decades. What you are looking at is a view of the Boyztown other entrance on Soi 13/4. Both views below were taken from in front of the Penthouse Hotel. The building on the right with the ornate wrought iron railings used to be the New Orleans Restaurant. The tall building in the background is still there.

Phetboy has new promotion of six (6) hourlong sessions for 1500 baht that works out to 250 each. KK Massage is offering hourlong fee of 250 today and tomorrow.

For my standards of trips to Thailand , this 8 days jump was among short ones but it was also part of longer vacations which took me from home for good month. Of course there are parts of my diary left out. As you may noticed, my reports are usually cut out at the moment door are closed. They were daytime activities which were left out completely unreported, if only because they were not related in any way to boy hunting part of narrative. Like everybody , I report what I consider interesting to at least some readers and leave out parts which could be boring , irrelevant or just ones I prefer to keep to myself or , at times, somebody else would like to keep it in the shadows. As for alibi , you right I never would be short of , on another hand , can't envision situation I may ever need one.

Sssshhhh..... someone is going to yell at you if you dare to post anything that is not a straight answer to their question about Philippines!

After two days of deep diving into the Osaka boy agencies, I completely agree with macaroni21 addendum. Example: the pricing table for Chanceosaka.jp demonstrates how pricing can be adjusted by what might be requested, and what might be refunded if the boy cannot meet what the client is seeking. (example: it's a refund of 2000 JPY if the boy can't masturbate for a solo masturbation session). I appreciate macaroni21's noting that tipping is not a Japanese thing. I also appreciate everything being priced out and annotated at length as to the do's and don't's and don't even try. I'll investigate the vagaries of the system in person in abut three weeks and will report. Though among varieties of things on offer and I am open to the two and three person options, I will give the scat possibility a pass (pun intended) .

Al Jazeera has won MANY international awards for it's 'English' news reporting/reporters. When it first opened it's English service, it poached many reporters/presenters from the BBC. During the red/yellow shirt disturbances here, it's live reporting was more immediate and unbiassed than the BBC 'man on the spot' Of course it's coverage leans towards more content on the Middle East just as BBC's is on Europe and CNN's is on the USA.

In Winner Bar last night, about 10 boys on stage but few customers. I think the boys get bored when no customers for them to entice? One boy is very well endowed but forget his number, however he is very nice. His name is something like AhChen but they all seem to have alternate names. The boys do appreciate small tips (40 Baht) unless they sit with you, in which case 100+ is more appropriate.