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Hello Everyone I'm devastated to have just returned home from a trip to BKK. I hadn't been since 2019 and definitely made up for lost time. It was sad to see Soi Twilight gone since I was last there, but also exciting to see new (and old) bars sprouting up across the street. I don't do massage places, so this is just some notes on the bars I visited Dreamboys Dreamboys (original) was the first bar I ever visited in BKK, and we've made a tradition of always visiting here on our first night. I always remember this place more for its crazy shows - like where the big inflatable cock squirted water over everyone. That seems gone now sadly. New venue is a good size. Boys are of mixed type. I'm concious from other threads that the owner fired non-Thai boys. I met one Viet working in Fresh Boys who said he had been let go from Dreamboys recently, but didn't elaborate, so this might be related. Jupiter Probably the bar that excites me the most and frustates me the most in all of Bangkok. Most of the guys here are undoubtely gorgeous - straight looking, athletic, confident types - some very good looking. This bar has a slightly cooler atmosphere to it. Some members complain about perhaps the boys being too... modelly. I get that. But they work for me. I have to say that their shows are the sexiest. I find most bars don't use best looking boys for the shows (maybe the best looking boys are not the best performers) but in Jupiter, the guys performing are great. The guys are all shirtless and will do 3 or 4 parades around the bar - sometimes in pants, and sometimes in jeans. Always seemed to be busy. We visited 3 times - even early in the week at 10, and could barely get a seat! But I find this place frustrating because the best looking guys almost always seemed to be taken quickly (or reserved) by high-rollers, VIPs, or rowdy tables of young women. Only on the last night, did one of the mamasans show any interest in asking us if we we wanted anything. He took me "shopping" backstage to find boy I liked. Worked out in the end... On a side note, a couple of guys I was interested were performers, but did not wear numbers on their jeans on the final "walk" of the night. Could not tell if they were simply non-offable performers, or perhaps if they were already taken. Does anyone know why they walk without numbers? On a second side note - some v cute, young-looking waiters - with numbers. Strange mix. I would imagine that the people coming to see the guys at Jupiter, would not be interested in this type. Moonlight I like the atmosphere in this bar. Even on a late weekday night, the place was busy with all kinds of customers, and everyone excited to see the performers. I have to admit, I had grown tired of seeing all the usual "superstars" in pics and videos online. But they still put on a great show. And seeing Babe perform again in person - he is beautiful. That smile! The selection of boys is good looking - feel like they have a similar vibe to Jupiter - the kind of guys young female tourists want to drink with. Most wore jeans & t-shirts. Tawan Only visited here once. Only ever visit here once on any trip. I take a notion to see these big guys out of curiosity, but ultimately bodybuilders are not my type, and the show is too rough for me - it had whipping, cigarettes, wax etc. As some members have pointed out, I did see one twink here - but he seemed to be the bottom for the muscle boys. He got carrieed around the room, table to table, for tips, while being f*cked. Fresh Boys Really liked the selction of guys here. Almost totally twinks (some twunks). All shirtless. They did a big cock show where they whack their dicks against a metal pole. Ouch. Hot Male Only visited here once, briefly, after midnight. The guys were attractive and nice bodies. I didn't see much of interest for myself, but I don't want to say its indicative of the bar, given how late I visited. Screw Boy First revalation of the trip. I don't know why I didn't visit here on previous trips. I sometimes got a sense from this forum that this bar was seedy or low class or something, so I was never really inclined to go. We ended up here somewhat accidentally when, after leaving a last minute, post-midnight trip to Fresh Boys, empty-handed, a hawker grabbed us surreptitiously on the staircase. "Show at 1!" So we went in. Really liked this place. I was delighted, not just to find a bar that opened later than the others on this street (they do shows at 1 am), but it had lots of really cute young guys, a fun atmostphere (opposite of cool atmosphere of Jupiter), 2 fun, friendly mamasans, good music and also a young male performer who looked like he could be an idol or something (later discovered he is a male performer on the Ladyboys of Bangkok tour). The guys all wore matching white baseketball outfits. Visited here 3 times. Banana Bar Second revalation of the trip. I was not going to go to this bar because there was nothing written about it in the forums that made it particularly stand out to me. But I was left alone by my friend one night of the trip because of a business meeting. After a drink alone at Connections Bar on Soi 4, I decided to wander in and had a great night. Beautiful ladyboys and performers, who had toured the UK as part of "The Ladyboys of Bangkok". Main performer very handsome. Waiters were friendly. And also I was startled to meet the mamasan here who used to work in X-Boys. I spoke to her about some of the changes since I had last been here. Of course a lot of money was spent. Amateur. Went back second night, but attention was on a VIP table. Mamasan told us same customer had spent 100k tips on a previous night. Wow. Had the same big cock pole whacking show as Fresh Boys. G's Third revelation of the trip. Sorry, I know this isn't about a bar - but I had never been to G's restaurant before on Soi 4. My friend and I went one night and got German/Thai fusion dishes which were delicious. Fully intended to go here again, but didn't due to other commitments, but this will definitely be a stop for dinner on the next trip. Recommended! Did not get to visit Sol or New Twilight unfortunately. Frustations with "Line" - had line contact for one of the Moonlight stars but when I logged into a very old account, it wouldn't let me add new contacts. So I tried to sign out and back in again, but said my account was blocked for 58 days. End of that adventure. Very sad and exhausted to be home now. But hope you enjoy my notes.

Cont... Jupiter : I was also there twice, once on a weekday and once on a weekend. 1st drink was at THB 500. I didn't off anyone here as well. The models were all gorgeous that I don't think there's any single one that I wouldn't want to off 😅. Possibly the most number of models out of all the bars I managed to check out. On both days, there were a lot of patrons here (compared to other bars). Particularly on the weekend, it was so full that the waiters were struggling to find places to sit the incoming patrons. The shows were great, a mix of sexy shows and drag performances. I would echo the observations of other members on the general lack of smile or eye contact by models (I was seated facing the centre of the runway such that the models, when doing their rounds, would be seeing me face to face at a point but not a single one smiled). All in all, I had a good time there admiring the models and enjoying the shows. One thing I would note is that, perhaps a little different from what I've read previously, there were not that many female patrons on the weekday when I was there (I'd say less than 10, in a packed bar). Hotmale : I was only here once on a weekday, close to midnight. It was after their show. There were probably less than 15 models there, and only a few other patrons. Drink prices were the same as others and I didn't off anyone here. The models were a mix of the generally fit/athletic type and twinks, and probably the most enthusiastic out of all the bars I went to. They would try to win your attention as much as they could while on stage. Dreamboy : I also went here twice, once on a weekday and once on a weekend. Drinks were a little more expensive at THB 550 on both days. There was a variety of models available for off, ranging from twinks to jocks to muscle guys. I find the shows here to be the most interesting out of all (with the pyro act and flying angels etc.). Some of the models on stage will try to make eye contact and flash a smile, but others seemed rather disinterested. At least none were on their phone while on stage. There were quite a few I would love to off next time. Moonlight : I went here twice as well. The drinks were priced at THB 500. I did off a boy from here (his drink + off fee = THB 900, if I'm not mistaken). The captain was very informative about the boys (who tops, btms etc.), told me about the minimum tip expected for an off (THB 2,500) and even went to pull out additional photos of the boys from his phone. The boys are generally of the same type as Jupiter. The guy I offed told me he remembered seeing me the previous day I was there (and he was right on when that was) so maybe the boys do take note of who sits in the audience? I noticed one particular boy who did give a lot of eye contact and smiles on and off stage, but I didn't off him this round (I went with the captain's recommendation). The shows were alright but maybe because I've seen videos of their models before that it wasn't that exciting in person. My ST experience with the boy was also good, and I would definitely off him again. It helped that I clarified what I was expecting to do with him at the bar, to which he confirmed to be OK with him. He is friendly and spoke fairly decent English. Massage I only managed to check out one massage centre, Arena. The boys were all muscular guys that I could've easily gone with any of them. I chose one fair skinned Thai from the north and took the 1 hour VIP room oil milk massage (around THB 900 - big room and comes with tea/coffee. But for some reason, the shower room smelled a little off that even my guy commented on it). I was told that the minimum tip was THB 1000. His massage was a little too light for my liking (had to nudge him to increase the pressure) but it wasn't really bad (since I just wanted a relaxing massage anyway). The afters were alright, with some foreplay before he finished me off. He offered to finish as well for some extra tip (as it was pretty early in the afternoon) but I declined. I did still tip him more than the minimum since I enjoyed his company and conversation (even with limitations in the language department). Those were some of my observations on the gogo bars and massage centre that I went to. I am already looking forward to my 2024 trips there, as there were a lot of guys from the bars I would love to off.

Besides fellow forum member, I also got reacquainted with a Vietnamese guy that I knew from the days of Soi Twilight. He decided to go back to Ha Tinh in Vietnam about one year before Covid and I had been sending him money and supporting him. I call him "cha nuoi" (godson) while he calls me "kon nuoi" (godpa). He was doing ok for a while with the money I sent him but Covid hit and things really went bad in Ha Tinh. He struggled to find full time job after Covid and had to take on odd jobs to survive. Finally, he decided to come to Bangkok to work. He didn't want to work at gogo bar so he is working in packing and delivery in day. But it only pays 600 baht per day so at night, he turns up at Dreamboys and gets 200 baht for going on stage. He says he rarely gets customers because there are so many guys on stage and he is older than the rest (he's only 27!) I told him that there's guys older than him at Dreamboys! He also theorises that it's because he's so dark due to working in the sun. He meets me at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. He had texted me in advance: "You no go my bar. Today I no go work so you no need buy drink and pay bar money take me hotel". Once in hotel, I had a shock. There were elaborate tattoos on his back. He didn't have them before. "Why you no tell me?" I asked. He admitted sheepishly that he thought I might not like them. But I think he's indirectly admitting that he felt guilty for spending the money I sent to him in Vietnam on such tattoos. "It's ok. You are my cha nuoi." And with that, we spent the night 5 years after we last saw each other.

Was in Bangkok in early October and back again two months later. Link to October's trip report below. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40292-weekend-in-bangkok/ The reason why I decided to come again now instead of during Christmas (my usual timing) is because this week is the last week for two fellow forum members in Bangkok. They will be flying back after their months long stay. I am envious of them, being retired and all that. I can't get leave from work to go on holiday for months. The most I can ever get is 2 weeks at a stretch and unfortunately, I have used up my leave for this year and am left with only one week. I arrived at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday evening from Singapore. After checking in and leaving my luggage in my room at Le Meridien, I was off to Hot Male Beer Bar downstairs. Both fellow forum members were already seated there. They were drinking and chatting with two guys from new Sol Bar just across the soi. One is an old timer from Twilight while the other is new. It was their off day hence they did not have to report to their bar and they could go to other bars. Forum readers who read my previous trip report would know of my promise to buy authentic Calvin Klein briefs for Z, my current infatuation. When I appeared at Hotmale Beer Bar, Z was elated to see me. I got him a three-pack with three colours - white, black and grey. Later in hotel room, he returned me the grey pair. Grey is not his colour. He likes white and doesn't mind black. He's both practical and sensible. "But it's size M. I can't wear it. I give to other boy?" I said. "Ok," he replied. We both know that even though we profess we are each other's boyfriend, we have (many) other boyfriends. In fact, in the morning, just before we were to go for breakfast, he had to take a video call. I could hear from the accent that the guy is from Philippines. Z gestured to me to keep quiet while he spoke to his Filipino boyfriend, "I call you at 3pm and we chat ok? I need to sleep now." Lol! Sorry I got ahead of myself. Back to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. Many customers. Festive mood. The guys from Sol Bar surprisingly didn't come out to the "balcony" as often as they did in October. Spotted a waiter who used to work at Hotmale and was one of the stars of the big cock show. If I ever go inside Sol Bar, I will ask him why he made the change. I had a great time catching up with fellow forum members and the Hotmale Beer Bar waiters. I even exchanged Line account with P, one of the Sol Bar guys seated with us. I told him I could not off him tonight but I will off him another night. Z was the chosen one. After chatting for about an hour or so, our merry trio of forum members went our separate ways. I had a great time with Z and we were exhausted and slept by 1am. We continued with round 2 in morning then we washed up and went for breakfast. After breakfast, Z went home. "See you tonight!" we both said to each other.

Day 3 - L, the massage guy from yesterday's massage came to my hotel at 2 plus. Yesterday, at the room in his massage shop on Soi 6, he had his clothes on until midway when he asked me if I would tip him for extra service. Only then did he get naked. This time, the moment he entered my hotel room, I started unbuttoning his shirt then lowered his jeans and black boxer briefs. (Same as yesterday? Or does he have several pairs of same type?) I also got naked and led him to my bed for massage to start. I believe it was easier for him to massage because the hotel bed is much bigger than massage bed. He was literally on me as he massaged me body on body, with his warm expanding cock rubbing against my a-hole. He didn't bring any massage oil or cream but the massage still worked because of his skilful strokes. It was one of the best sessions I had, erotic massage leading to sex. Yesterday, I asked him if he would cum with me. He had replied that he was working so he couldn't. But on hotel bed, HE got so horny that he begged me to jerk him off. He said he was man so he won't bottom but surprisingly, he allowed me to finger him deeply. I found his G spot and finger fuck him while he jerk his cock furiously. Finally he let out several cum shots which reached his chin. I kept him on hold and didn't let him wash up until I unloaded my cum on his sexy abs. After that we showered, I paid him his tip and he went back to his massage shop to work. Sorry this report sounds like amateur porn but I am just reporting what really happened. Hehe.

Hi all, I've been reading (and benefiting) a lot from the reports made by members here, so I thought I'd make a little contribution by sharing my own report from a recent short trip to Bangkok. I'm not much of a storyteller, so I thought I'd just share my general observation as opposed to going on a day-to-day format. For some context, I'm a Southeast Asian guy and my trip to Bangkok lasted only for short few days. It's my first trip to Bangkok since the pandemic, so I was just checking out what's changed since I was last there. Bars I was able to check out Tawan, Moonlight, Jupiter, Hotmale and Dreamboys during this short trip. Here are some of my observations: Tawan: I was here twice, once each on a weekday and a weekend. Drinks for both nights were THB500 (didn't off anyone, so I didn't ask about the off fee). The new location was just too small for my liking, especially when compared to the other bars. It didn't help when the captain tried to squeeze patrons together (I guess I can understand why) which limits the possibility of me having a boy over to chat, seeing how others could clearly here my possibly not-so-decent conversations with the boy 🤣. There were just one or two bodybuilders during the weekday (with a few more on the weekends) while the others (there were possibly around 10-15 guys on the weekday and a few more on the weekend) were more bear-ish, twunk-ish or twinks. The show still had the same format as before, with the bdsm routine coupled with a few dance/drag show. I didn't stay till the end of the show though. I noticed that the guys were a little more pre-occupied with their phones than trying to get the attention of new patrons (quite different from how I recall the guys there used to be). The only times I've seen them smile or greet patrons were when they seemed to know the patrons (presumably from previous experience)...or maybe I just have a resting bitch face that pushed them away. 😅 But I would have still offed a few of the guys there, hopefully in another trip. To be continued...

At 10pm, I left the merry folks of Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs to enter Sol Bar to watch the show. Mamasan led me to a seat on right side at second last row. The big pillar in the middle prevented a clear view of the stage but at least it had full mirror on it which allowed the back view of the guys to be reflected when the guys stood in front of the pillar as part of their rotation. P, whom I got to know from last night, was waiting for me. He was in white singlet and white shorts but no number. About 15 other guys were on stage and they had numbers embroidered on their singlets and shorts. I asked him why he had no number and he said something but I couldn't catch the explanation. No matter. I told him I wanted to watch the show. I definitely was taking him off so he could change to his own clothes. He took his leave and I surveyed the bar. There were low round sofa type of seats ideal for groups right below the stage. Only about 10 customers including one Asian customer to my left seated with former Hotmale twink who had changed out of his waiter uniform. Asian customer (looks Taiwanese or HK) was taking him off but like me, wanted to watch the show. The bar started filling up quickly. Two separate groups of Thai customers came in and ordered bottle service. Each group called down some guys down from stage to drink with them for the night. Just before the show started at 10.22pm, (yes, I checked my watch), a group of 4 farang women tourists came in. They took front row sofas below stage on the right side. Midway through the show, one of the Thai groups would move to front row sofas below stage on the left side. Sol Bar has adopted the best practices of the other bars. Their show started in a similar fashion to Jupiter where the guys took turns to walk individually and present themselves to audience. Unlike Jupiter, they didn't have the cold lifeless model stare. The guys of Sol Bar were free to smile at audience. Most removed their singlets to showcase their upper bodies. Some seemed awkward with runway walk. They need more model training. Also unlike Jupiter, the numbers on their shorts were visible for all to see. Very accessible for any customer who wants to off a guy. Regarding the show, there's only 2 ladyboy singing - the opening act (backed up by 2 dancers) and the fifth performance (a solo item). Total 8 performances and I don't count big cock show. The other performances are all performed by the Sol Bar guys themselves - mixture of dance numbers and slow erotic dancing. But overall what stood out was the last performance - a SM act between a master and a slave. The slave was stripped, pulled on a leash, thrown onto the floor, "whipped" and had candle wax poured on his body. Audience members were invited to pour wax - one lady from the all-girl farang tourists in the front row and the Asian customer sitting with ex-Hotmale guy. I suspect the latter arranged for him to go up on stage. Customer seemed sheepish but I could tell he enjoyed it! The twist at the end of the act was that the slave turned the tables on the master! I have watched similar shows at Freshboys and Tawan but this particular performance made it into an unforgettable viewing experience with a storyline. Kudos for best SM show in Bangkok, Sol Bar! Maybe Sol Bar should rename itself as Sol SM Bar!

After Z went back, I had time to myself in morning. I was at swimming pool for half an hour then back to hotel room for Netflix and Tiktok. At 1.30pm, I had lunch appointment with fellow forum member. He suggested we eat at new Foodland branch at Park Silom. Very clean and new but not as big as I expected. Prices are same as Foodland Patpong. However, atmosphere will never beat Foodland Patpong! Fellow forum member and I then continued our conversations while we walked around Patpong and Silom. We did one full round from Park Silom to Silom Road to Soi 6 to Surawong Road to Soi Thaniya then along Silom Road to Soi 4 and back to Soi 6 where we accepted the invitation of two cute massage twinks. Massage for 60 minutes was 500 baht excluding tips. I was very satisfied with my guy, L and I got his Line after finding out he's willing to come to my hotel room before/after work. Finally, I have to share this sad photo of the place that used to be Coffee Grnder Silom.

I had wanted to meet two guys from Moonlight and Tawan after reading positive reports about them from fellow forum members but I was kept occupied by the good company at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. In a first for me, on my last night, I bought a round of drinks for the staff and even included a small tip. Very friendly welcoming staff and excellent service.

Day 5 (Saturday) - A tale of two Thais I had pleasure of meeting two very interesting young Thai guys - both in mid 20s. I got to know them through Grinder. They hit me up yesterday and I am only able to meet them today one in late morning and another in evening. One of them is a masseur at Olivia Massage. Shall call him O after his shop. English is very basic. He uses Google Translate when he messages me. But to be frank, during massage and sex, language does not matter. O is a cute twink. Very friendly and loves to kiss! Hardworking as well. Strong massage strokes. I had him come/cum (Lol!) to my hotel room for massage in day time so I had to pay an off fee to shop. O loved doing massage in hotel room. He took pictures and videos of city from window of room. After leaving, O sent me a message: "Let me know in advance when you want me to go your hotel. I can go before work or after work. I can also go during lunch break. You no need pay my shop." The other young Thai guy I met speaks fluent English. He even types all his messages in English. He is the epitome of the young modern educated Thai person. He has travelled to all of the major countries in Asia except China and he has even been to a number of European countries. He studied aircraft engineering and works at airport where he stays nearby. He is looking for an older boyfriend after some previous relationships. We talked about interests and personal life and I found him to be a remarkable young man. He came from a complicated family background and is currently out on his own. His name starts with L but to differentiate him, shall refer to him as L+. When I complimented him on his achievements at such a young age, he was on the verge of tears and hugged me tightly. I think not many people have given him positive affirmation in his life. I hope he finds the right guy for his boyfriend and happiness together. O and L+ are two Thai gay guys whom I will not forget and I suspect I will be keeping in touch with them for years to come. Most of the guys I got to know well during my trips to Bangkok are not Thai (and not gay!) They are mostly from Myanmar and Vietnam (due largely to their English proficiency). There are Laos and Cambodia guys I know as well but I need Google Translate when I meet them. Oh yes, report on night activities - I was at Screwboys after supper at Foodland Patpong with fellow forum member. But no.93 wasn't there. Hopefully he will turn up tomorrow.

This happened one month ago in 1st week of October. I was in Bangkok for a weekend. Took evening flight from Singapore. Once I checked into room at Le Meridien, off I went at 9.30pm to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs to meet with forum member whom I haven't met for two years ever since Covid. New bar Sol directly opposite had some yummy shirtless guys hanging around once their rotation on stage ended. Was very tempted by blonde guy in photo but surprisingly, I didn't step into any gogo bar during my 3 nights. I shall explain why later. Sorry @vinapu for not being able to report on the show or the guys in Sol.

Day 7 (Monday) - last full day in Bangkok on this one week trip and what a packed schedule. In morning after breakfast, I went to nearby St Louis Catholic Hospital to pass some money to my cha nuoi (godson). His condition had gotten worse since the last I met him and he had to be admitted to hospital for 2 nights. He had asked me to help him pay part of his hospital bill during his discharge and I said no problem. The hospital is just next to St Louis BTS. Modern and clean. Cha nuoi was staying on 20th floor. I knocked on door of his room and went in. A nurse was helping him take off the IV drip. Two of his Vietnamese friends were there as well to take him back home. One of them works at same packing and delivery business while the other was a stunner! He had tattoos on his left arm and was well-built. I had to ask. "You work in bar?" "Yes," he said in very low sexy voice. "Which bar?" "Jupiter." I was half-expecting that answer. I thanked him for looking out for my cha nuoi and then proceeded to ask him for his Line account. "Ok. No problem. My name is Man. You good friend. You help Tiep (cha nuoi's Vietnamese name) long time." "You good friend. Tiep sick and you help him." I swear cha nuoi was rolling his eyes at my shameless flirting. After the nurse finished her task, she left the room and I passed cha nuoi the money. I said my goodbye and wished him quick recovery and of course I also said goodbye to good friend from Jupiter.

My nights were spent chatting with fellow forum member at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. During the day, I went for massages including a visit to Arena. "I'm Jack from Chiang Mai. Nice to meet you," says the guy I picked from the lineup. His strokes were a bit rough for my taste but he was eager to earn his tip. He was naked from the start and allowed me to feel his firm abs throughout. "Massage finish. I fuck you now?" he asked. I said no fuck because I had discovered he had mooks in his dick. "I suck you?" he then asked. I said yes and he gave a really good blowjob. I asked him to cum together with me and he obliged by shooting three waves of thick creamy load onto me. After that, he helped to shower me in ensuite toilet.

I was only with my "cha nuoi" for one night. My second night was spent with a new and very charming Myanmar waiter. 22 years only. He speaks good English. In the hotel room, I noticed the counterfeit Calvin Klein briefs he wears. I offered to buy him the original CK briefs when I go to Bangkok again in December. "Size M. Only white colour please, thank you so much," he replied. We had an enjoyable night followed by round two in morning before breakfast. I enjoyed his company so much that I took him off again on my third and final night during this short visit to Bangkok.

After supper at Foodland Patpong, Z and I went into Dreamboys. It was 11 plus and halfway into their show. Fewer customers and fewer guys working as compared to last Friday night. Show about the same. Z enjoyed watching the energetic dance numbers. He sang along to the songs that the ladyboy diva singers sang. He didn't like the erotic cock dancing and big cock show. When macho man in heels appeared, Z was taken aback at first but he enjoyed it as the performance went on. "You want to tip him?" I asked, holding out a 100-baht note. Z said yes and appreciatively handed the tip to macho man in heels on stage. Z recognised and called out to a Dreamboys guy. "He's my friend. He's from Myanmar." He is one of dancers for Sex Bomb dance and he is a good dancer. We watched him dance and I gave Z a 100-baht note to tip him. I can confirm that Myanmar dancer is not just working at Dreamboys purely as a dancer. He is available for off. He has a number on his white shorts and he went on rotation on stage with the other guys. So it seems that Dreamboys doesn't hire only Thai guys. They have guys from the other countries as well. At 12.15am, the coyote dancing began signalling the start of the 3rd show of the night. Only 6 guys dancing compared to 9 guys on Friday. When they ended, 3 guys received 100-baht tips each while the best 3 dancers received 1000-baht garlands each to applause. Z and I left after coyote dancing. I said bye to him. "See you next year, Myanmar boyfriend," I said to him as I hugged him. "See you next year, Singapore boyfriend," he replied.

After fellow forum member left at 11 plus, I decided to go to Dreamboys. Show was midway. Seats all taken but mamasan managed to squeeze me in left corner. There were both male and female customers. I was seated diagonally across the hall facing a certain Hotmale Beer Bar waiter with Japanese lady customer in private sofa booth. I also saw many guys who were at Circus and Balcony in Soi 4 earlier in evening. Show was same as when I watched in June. Mix of different types of performances for everyone from the casual curious tourist who just wandered in to the seasoned visitor. Ladyboy diva singing, energetic dancers, slapstick masked face comedy, macho man in heels dancing and the usual erotic dancing with cocks exposed - this had everything for everyone! The entire show lasted till 1am with 10-minute intermission every half hour where the guys went on stage for prospective customers to off. Half the audience left at midnight after big cock show. After 10-minute intermission with guys on stage, the show continued. Coyote dancing at 12.30am saw an appreciative customer giving 100 baht tips to the 9 guys who danced. They formed a line to collect their tips with one guy even kneeling and wai-ing! At 1am, the music stopped and show was over. I headed to Screwboys to off the guy I saw last night (no.93). Unfortunately he had been taken. So I went back to hotel alone on day 4.

Day 4 - In morning, I got hit upon via Grinder by a university student at nearby Chulalongkon University. Early 20s. He wanted to come to my hotel room and he asked for 2pm. So I did not have anything planned for early afternooon and waited patiently. 2pm and there was no word from him. I had to send a message asking if he was coming. At 2.30pm, he replied that due to school work, he had to postpone to 5pm. At 5pm, he messaged to say he would be late. I smelt a scam. I wanted to cancel but Netflix saved him by keeping me occupied the whole afternoon. "Near now. Please wait," he said at 5.30pm. He finally arrived at 6.10pm. I was glad that I waited. He was very willing to please and worth his short time tip. However, during the afternoon while waiting for uni guy to appear, I rejected 2 opportunities to meet - one was from Soi 6 massage guy L whom I saw yesterday and another was young Thai working as engineer who found me on Grinder. In fact, I would count it as 3 opportunities lost because fellow forum member went to One Spa and I could have joined him but didn't. Thankfully, uni guy and I clicked when we met so I have no regret at the 3 missed opportunities. In evening, I went to Circus on Soi 4 for dinner. Sat at front row perfect view to eat slowly and watch people passing by. I enjoyed seeing the reactions of curious straight tourists who walked in and did a U-turn back out. Seeing the Jupiter guys report for work was a treat. I stopped B, a Laos Jupiter guy and offered him dinner. He said he had eaten but he was accommodating to sit with me for a few minutes to chat. B is a longtime guy I know from Banana Bar. I swear he gets more handsome every thing I meet him. He agreed to an off for Sunday night. I noticed many (Asian) bears going up the stairs to Hugs Bar. Glad to see that there are niche places for different interests. A group of European-looking older gentlemen sat to my right at Circus and had beer. Later, I would see them at front row in Dreamboys watching the show. Circus had a cabaret show inside srarting at 9pm, with its Aussie owner taking limelight as show announcer. At 9.15pm, I paid my bill and made my way to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs.

After massage, I took a nap. I had such a good sleep that I was surprised to wake up at 7pm! I had slept for 3 hours! I had a dinner appointment with fellow forum member at 8.30pm at Wine Connection at Silom Complex. I went there and we had dinner with our partners. 4 of us shared a bottle of wine and ordered individual salad dishes and a pizza. My Vietnamese con nuoi (godson) came along even though he was down with dengue fever a few days ago and is currently slowly recovering. Unable to work at his logistics packing and delivery job on doctor's orders, he had to forego his wages for these few days so I quietly slipped him some money to tide him by. I asked him why he only wanted to work at Dreamboys at night when he could easily work at Sol Bar and Screwboys (which I confirmed had Vietnamese guys. Report on Screwboys later). Con nuoi said those bars few customers compared to Dreamboys. We finished our dinner just before closing time at 10pm and parted ways. I was on my own for the rest of the night and of course I made my way to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs.

For those of us with home bases in East Asia, Southeast Asia or Australasia, South America is a pain to get to. Hardly any wonder that the last time I was in Brazil was 15 years ago if not more (so long ago, I can't even be sure). This year, I had reason to be in Europe for a month, mostly for family reasons, including attending a heterosexual wedding. Partly to recover from the trauma of that, but also because Brazil is more accesible from Europe, I decided to add four weeks there before flying all the way home. Beginning with this post Virgin Mary and the money pouch, there will be reports over the next few weeks about my time there. In case you're wondering, my habit is to post reports on my own blog because I prefer to write long form, and it takes the better part of a day to draft a post - not something compatible with a discussion forum. Contributors to the Brazil threads on this site have been an immensely helpful resource - thank you very much - and I hope my reports are interesting in their own way.

My plan for the night was Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs, supper at Foodland Patpong with fellow forum member (he would leave Thailand two days later), catch a show at a bar and finally massage at midnight. O, the massage guy, offered to come to my hotel room after he ends work at 12.30am. Of course I said yes. At Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs, it was one of the waiter's birthday and he had invited some friends over for a small celebration with some food at the sofa seats and table. I wished him happy birthday and gave him a tip. Z, my current infatuation, was working at the upstairs bar. News soon spread upwards that "Z's Singapore boyfriend" (a name given by the other waiters) had arrived and Z promptly came down to say hi to me. I told him about my midnight massage so no off to hotel. But how about dinner and watch boy show with me. OK he said. At 10.10pm, we adjourned to Foodland Patpong to meet fellow forum member and his guy for last supper until next year (tentatively middle of year in June).

After L left, I went to Foodland Patpong for my late lunch. As fate would have it, a fellow forum member had just finished a massage at nearby Adam Massage at Soi 4. He came over to chat. I told him that I needed to get more Thai baht and he kindly walked me to X-One. It was my first time there. Very well thought of process of limiting the number of customers inside through ticket system. Rate offered was indeed better than the other money changers in Silom area. After that, we took a leisurely walk and ended up outside Queen Club aka previously New Twilight. Directly opposite it was Golden Cock! There were 3 guys inside and one of them recognised fellow forum member and they chatted about the relocation and how's business. After short chat and update, we continued walking and saw Super A. The lights were not on but we took a peek and saw that there were guys inside. Hooray for them! Glad that these two niche bars are still surviving. Fellow forum member and I then continued walking to soi 6 and we said hello to the many massage guys who recognised him. We then resumed our walk and we finally separated at Soi Patpong where he went to Silom Complex and I went to get beer for a blackjack party I was hosting at night.

Day 6 (Sunday) - I had L the massage guy visit me in my hotel room again in afternoon. It's my 3rd massage with him - one in his shop and twice in hotel room. By now, he knows me intimately and vice versa. Advantage of having a regular. After session, L was wearing his pants and looking out the window when he suddenly pointed to a building. "Casino," he said, "Now close." I then asked him whether he gambled. He said no but he knew of friends who did and they told him about that particular gambling den. I had a deck of cards and poker chips in my luggage and I took them out to play a few rounds of blackjack with L. Then he asked me,"I show you Vietnam poker" and I said sure. Vietnam poker has a points system with 3 cards. While I was trying to get the hang of it, L suddenly realised that it's time for him to go back to massage shop. "It's ok. Next time I meet you. You teach me," I said.

I asked P if he was not with me, which show he would be in. He said the erotic dancing. He also said some nights there's a shower show and he would be in it. "You do shower show for me in hotel?" I asked. Yes he said. After the SM show, the Sol Bar guys came up on stage. I gave 100 baht tips to numbers 10 and 14 - one for nice smile and another for well proportioned body. Both I suspect our forum member @vinapu would approve. I didn't do the @vinapu tuck into their white shorts though. Finally, P, being a good friend, asked me to consider tipping his friend, no. 18 and I did willingly. I love how P looks out for his friends. We left Sol Bar and in hotel room, P kept his word and gave me a shower show. He's a true pro. Well worth his tip!

We have now survived the first year after the pandemic, which was not always easy; the many tourists who used to come stayed away for a long time. Now, for this year's Loy Krathong Festival, things are looking up again. We would like to thank our loyal community from the bottom of our hearts for supporting us during these difficult times. The Adams Apple Club Chiang Mai team wishes everyone a Happy Loy Krathong Festival 2023.

What I still find fascinating is that people know who Putin is and what he does and what he stands for and they still stand by him. But, it is no different than those that know who Trump is, know what he does and still stands by him. I seem to have lost a sense of logic in the world that I can't fathom how I'll ever get it back. Politics is politics the world over but facts are also facts and the way some believe believe lie after lie or forgive lie after lie, is truly unbelievable to me. I have to be missing something.

I took BTS back to Sala Daeng. Saw that a new bar was being built next to Hot Male Beer Bar downstairs. It's in pink. Oh dear. Not a girlie bar please. Got some lunch then lazed at pool waiting for Grinder guy. Not just one but two in fact. One Thai guy. Mid 20s. Tall and twinkish. Freelancer just like the Thai guy I met yesterday. My other Grinder initiated session came in late afternoon. 34 years old. Laos. And surprise surprise he works at Super A! He was stopping by at my room for quickie before he reports for work at 6pm. Sex with him was the best among all the guys I met this trip. Experience trumps pretty boy looks, sexy 6-pec abs body and skilful massage skills, I guess.

I decided to check out Screwboys so I went in after saying goodbye to the guys at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. It was about 11.40pm. Few customers and 2nd show was going on. It was erotic dancing with some guys touching and rubbing a guy with erected penis sticking out. After that was big cock show where the guys went looking for tips. The guys in basketball singlet and shorts seated outside came inside for rotation on stage after the big cock show. Twinks galore! But I wasn't offing anyone. I just spent the next hour looking and ogling. Something new at Screwboys is mamasan calling the guys to catwalk down the narrow aisle one by one. Really nice way to showcase them and introduce them to audience. I saw Sol Bar do this yesterday night and of course it's copied from Jupiter. After midnight, groups of Thai ladies came in. They ordered bottles and invited the cutest guys to sit with them and drink. I counted 15 ladies against 5 lonely male customers at 1am when the 3rd show began with ladyboys singing. I decided to leave. As I walked out the door, I scanned the guys seated outside and tipped one guy whom I took a fancy to. Number 93. Later on back in hotel room, I spotted him on Grinder and I sent him a "Hi" message. He replied immediately. "Thank you for tip. Tomorrow you come my bar?" "Yes" "Tomorrow I wait for you." And that ends Day 3.

Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs was quiet on a Thursday night. A the charismatic bartender had been taken off by customer. "Customer take him for eating," said A, his sidekick and best bud. They are the only ones allowed to operate the cash register. So it's not possible to off both of them at same time. Believe me, I have tried for years. Why can't management train more staff to be cashiers? T, the Laos waiter asked me if I was keen to go DJ station. I said I would think about it. Z, the Myanmar waiter then appeared and asked me the same question! Now there was no way I would take Z off to go DJ station and then let T discover it. So I said no unfortunately. It was also a no to offing Z for sex because I already had my fill in afternoon with L, the massage guy. I am not like our (in)famous forum member @vinapu who can meet three guys in a day! So I just ended up buying drink and chatting with Z while at the same time ogling at the Sol Bar guys at balcony. P, my off, from last night had sent me a message in afternoon which included an impressive video of him lifting weights at Lumpini Park gym. ("I pay 1000 baht every month for gym and I go every day"). P was looking for a repeat and he even crossed the soi to say hi to me. Sorry I am not offing anyone tonight. I gave him a tip and said I might see him again another night.

Without any experience of managing a bar or massage place and without social skills ("I really don't like old farangs and I don't like talking to people.") You may lose lots of money and gain lots of stressful do your save a favor and avoid such kind of business.

Just as Gayinpattaya gets banned, another comes out of the woodwork..... posters like you two (if you're not 1 in the same) keep me looking like the normal one in the group. Some prefer going with older guys because they are less work and better tippers sometimes..... whenever I see an older guy out at the bars, I think "good for him" because I know of so many that either: A: never made it to that age B: sit at home, afraid to go out because of perspectives like yours. We'll all be old, wrinkly with sagging asses, if we're lucky enough..... but I have a feeling I'll be satisfied with just a massage and a happy ending 😁

Don't be so pissy. Chill. This is how forums work. They all go off topic. It's how conversations work. You start a conversation, but don't get to dictate what everyone says or how the conversation drifts. People were trying to be helpful, or just commenting and you act like everybody has taken a dump in your corn flakes. Take the advice, or ignore it, but but getting up in arms because somebody gives you advice you can't use is kinda silly.

That's the most unsuspicious way to sneak 4 gogo boys into a hotel room!

It was a crazy Saturday night at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs because two regular lady customers visited. One Japanese lady customer was locked in embrace and kisses with a particular waiter at the sofa. They then adjourned to Dreamboys in private sofa seat with bottle service to enjoy their show. Yours Truly happened to go to Dreamboys and sit directly opposite them. The particular waiter looked half drunk by the time they left after midnight. The rest of waiters at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs became half drunk due to a Thai lady customer who showered them with whisky shots. She's a regular and when she comes, most of the staff crowd around her. They even change their music from English songs to Thai just for her and they sing, dance and drink throughout. She ordered shot glasses to be brought out and she personally poured bottles of Jagermeister into each shot glass full to the brim and then gave them to the waiters to drink. Most got 2 to 3 shots while her favourites got more than 5 shots. I presume she tips them when she leaves. I wasn't around to see the tipping but I did find out that her total bill for drinks once hit 20k baht in one night!

Somewhat unrelated, but if you are looking for something to do during the day, why not spend some time learning the Thai language? Going to a daily class and then some self study could easily knock out a few hours of the day, not to mention would be super beneficial if you are going to live in Thailand full-time (assuming you do not already speak Thai).

I am shocked that the asylum seekers would choose to leave Mother Russia for a bourgeois western country! 😳

My spy (who is probably also ne of Vinapus spies) is reporting: Customer drink 400 Baht Boy drink 400 Baht There were about 15 boys, probably many Vietnamese, most of them shirtless During the show about 25 customers, mostly Thai/Asian, 4 women, on a Monday night No smoking visible Music volume ok (compared to Dreamboys) Show announced for 22:20, started 22:20 (or 22:15, if you count the line-up as part of the show), all acts about 5 minutes long 0. 8 guys line-up on stage, but also come down to the audience, shirtless 1. 2 fck the chair simulation 2. 2 cuties dance around a pole 3. "sex bomb" 4. 3 guys dancing wrapped in a curtain to oriental music 5. 4 guys dancing with candles in their hands 6. 7 guys big cck show, also came to the audience 7. SM show simulation, also came to the audience 8. 1 muscle guy dancing/showing his body 9. 8 guys line-up on stage, but also come down to the audience, shirtless What I think: 25 customers is not bad, they will survive Guys line-up coming to the audience sounds good to me, to have a better look (Screwboys does it too) Show ok, nothing to special, no ladyboy acts

This is simply an observation resulting from a few pleasant hours spent with two fellow board members—and some hot waiters and boys from Sol—last night from a table at HM. Observed many visiting young and attractive Asian men alone or in small groups walking along Patpong 2. They were clearly enjoying the experience. Last Saturday while in the lobby of a favorite Saphan Kwai massage shop, two young Asians (not any older than the boys they were about to engage) entered and began scanning the tablet for candidates. I see them on the BTS all the time. Young Asian men doing some of the same stuff us older farangs are doing. They’re going to bars, getting massages and exploring the city. None of this is theoretically based; it’s simply anecdotal observations.

I , for one , visit, daily this, Sawatdee & Gaybutton sites as well as ChristianPFC and ShamelessMac blogs. Contribute only here and occasionally on Christian's site. For my travel needs, Kayak for flights and Agoda for hotels seem to be sufficient. I pay very little attention to reviews, be it airlines , hotels, restaurants or indeed boys , spas and bars posted on various sites unless I know reviewer either in person or from contributing here. Sometimes for fun I read reviews of hotels I'm familiar with , either in Thailand or somewhere else and find them all over the place. Food reviews are even less useful as our tastes vary and too sweet for some may be bordering on bitter or sour for others and even if your chicken with cashew nuts may seem too salty, one I order 1 hour later may be just perfect in the same place

From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon Myanmar’s military regime, which came to power in a February 2021 coup, is in serious trouble. The military leader senior general Min Aung Hlaing has admitted that the country could split if his forces are unable to stop an insurrection in the huge and lawless Shan state which borders China, the junta’s largest trading partner. Military spokesman Zaw Min Tun has separately conceded that several northern towns have fallen to the Three Brotherhood Alliance which has overrun dozens of military posts, forced the surrender of hundreds of soldiers and cut off the junta’s access to the 2,000 kilometers of the Chinese border. Jason Tower, Myanmar program director for a US-funded think tank, said about half the entire countryside was in the hands of insurgent groups which have, for example, cut oil and gas pipelines from the Bay of Bengal to the China border. The junta still controls the main cities, at any rate from the barracks, and has firm control of the capital Naypyitaw and the commercial hub of Yangon. The problem is that the fighting is getting closer to urban centers and even garrisoned towns are under threat. There is speculation that senior general Myint will be forced to resign, although it is not clear who is successor would be and whether he could be any more effective in countering a civil war. In the south of the country, the Karen National Liberation Army has attacked towns which link Yangon with the Thai border. There are rumors that members of the State Administration Council (as the junta calls itself) have already bought properties in Thailand, to flee to if necessary. Some generals are believed to be in favour of a less incompetent leader who would enter negotiations with the disparate resistance groups. It would be no easy task. The consequences of Myanmar’s internal chaos are far-reaching for its relations with other countries. Russia and China have both supplied arms to the junta, but China’s support has waned the Myanmar authorities have failed to check the growing number of cyberscam gangs operating in the border regions. Thailand has followed an ambivalent policy towards post-coup Myanmar and the Thai army maintains good relationships with its senior colleagues over the border. The deteriorating security situation means that foreign tourism, which had shown some small signs of picking up in the last 12 months, is again dead on its feet. Unless there is very soon international intervention to steady the political chaos, Myanmar could be on a course for total collapse or ad hoc division into separatist regions.

is sad but quite often people who went through extreme situations are reluctant to talk about them . I guess it their way of going forward without raising demons of the past. My grandfather , WW I veteran when asked one by us granchildren why he doesn't want to tell us about the war cut us shortly " every guy with gun during war killed many people" and then we never asked again.

The Bangkok go-go bars in the 80s and 90s were certainly very different. On the other hand, the basic premise was always the same. Get the customer to buy drinks at inflated prices and then pay off fees to get as much cash from that as possible. I think I'm known on the forum as more skeptical than some as far as the future is concerned. Yes, more and more younger guys will be available to go to the bars in the future. The question for me is more how long will the government continue to tolerate them and permit them to operate. The elite and the army loathe the fact that Bangkok especially has the reputation as the sex capital of Asia. We saw the first major attempts to clamp down on the sex trade in the early 2000s with Thaksin's social order campaigns. SInce then the apps have been doing a good job at weaning some sex tourists away from the bars. So far, they have survived, although now very few Thai boys work in them - very unlike the 1980s and 90s. But we know the government can, if it wishes, make employment of boys from neighbouring countries even more difficult at the stroke of a pen! We know this is a socially conservative country. I suspect that those many millions who voted for Pita Limjaroenrat's party are like the elite in wishing to see the end of the "sex capital" description. But that is a very personal view. So generally my view is simple. The government will in future do what it can to drive sex bars off the streets. We have already seen what has happened in Chiang Mai which as a gay destination with gay venues is all but dead, whereas 20 years ago it had a large, thriving and fun gay scene. That may well result in just pushing the businesses underground and out of sight - rather like that which we know already exists for Thais and about which expats and tourists know nothing. Hopefully I am wrong.

Sounds more like professional porn 😁

Perhaps, you have already answered your own question. When you are in Thailand, you get bored. Perhaps Thailand is not the place for you to retire. Running a business, even if it is only with the goal of breaking even, is basically a 24 hour job. You could entrust it to someone else, but how does that address your boredom? It also dramatically increases the risk that the business will be run at a loss (perhaps great loss). If you want to just have a place to hang out during the day, you can do that at gyms or cafes by buying a membership, not the whole business. But for that to work, you would probably need to be social, which you said that you struggle with. Someone suggested learning Thai. Taking classes is a great way of scheduling your day, and you can learn a skill. You may not be able to volunteer in Thailand, but I would think that language exchange would not be considered volunteering. You could meet with local Thais in coffee shops and they can speak to you in Thai and in exchange, you can speak with them in English. A win win. It is also informal and could help you form social connections. You say that you like to travel. You could just travel to Thailand regularly for periods that are short enough that you do not get bored and you can schedule many things to do during that time to keep yourself busy. But honestly from a financial point of view for a person at a point in their life where they are “retiring”, I cannot think of a worse reason to start a business than boredom. The answer to boredom is not going to be found in taking on the risk and stress of running a business that your heart really isn’t even into. You might as well keep working in your current job.

Was it 10 years ago? Longer? There was certainly a time when the internet had a considerable number of gay websites focusing primarily on Thailand. Many were informative, some more political in content, some just bitch boards - some providing both interest and amusement. This Board now has a much wider geographical range, but still with quite a number of separate threads on Thailand and others on Asia. To my knowledge there are only two left concentrating on Thailand - sawatdee network and gaybuttonthai. Sawatdee has gone through several incarnations over the years but now seems also to be slipping out of most readers' daily posting. In the last 14 days, it has had no posts for 8 of them. During October there were 16 days with no posts. Yet it is certainly read for, as I write at 11:00 am on Sunday, there are 35 members online and 218 guests. That's considerably more than this site which has 8 members and 200 guests at the same time! Gaybuttonthai is much more concentrated on Pattaya and has far fewer registered members. Now there are 2 online, yet still 121 guests. 11:00 am on a Sunday morning may not be the idea time for checking websites, but there is clearly a readership for all three sites. The key question, I guess, is how likely is it they will all last? Some years ago on his own website, the poster @ChristianPFC compiled a list of 'dead' sites. Among these were gaylilfeinthailand, gaytingtong, gaysexthailand, cruisinggaythailand, gaytouri, baht-stop and bahtstop. Many were very short-lived. Others did not last after their owners died. Since then, yet others seem to continue as websites but often with very little new content. cruisingforsex-asia has been around for many years but its last post was made in May this year. That was a response to a question about Nature Boys raised on 6 November 2009! After 3 years with no activity during covid, activity has slowly picked up - but slow is the operative word! Only a handful of posts in 2023. I raise this merely to ask for how long this and the other two sites can keep operating, the more so with advertising revenues minimal or even non-existent? I wonder if the same is true to a certain extent of gay internet sites, especially those related to gay travel. In theory they should be mushrooming. Are they? Rather like the maps on the free gay magazines that were common in most gay venues in Thailand 10-20 years ago, I guess the problem is how you keep information up to date. Quite a few years ago I remember virtually trashing one such site which clearly had just made-up its supposed travel information about Thailand. The site died soon after. A couple of years or so ago I wrote to the owner of utopia-asia to ask why he did not include arguably the two most popular saunas in Asia in his listings - Hutong in Hong Kong and Soi13in in Taipei. He wrote back that neither had replied to questions he had sent! They are still excluded! Frankly, that is ridiculous! Every other website lists these saunas. It really makes me question what other gay venues utopia-asia deliberately omits because they pissed off the owner. gaytravel.com has been running for more than 20 years. Yet of its travel destinations, the only one in Asia is Phuket! Click on Phuket and it's just one long advertisement for the Sri Panwa luxury hotel! Total waste of time! At least nomadicboys.com has both Thailand and Taiwan as its Asian destinations. The suggestions for both cities are pretty much up to date with a few notable omissions. Worst in both are its hotel recomendations. The top two in Bangkok are the W Hotel and the Mandarin-Oriental! Soon after come the So-Sofitel, the Banyan Tree, Le Meridien, the Peninsula and the St. Regis. To be fair, it also lists the Tarntawan. But why such a cluster of just expensive hotels? I In Taipei it places the Chinese-styled Grand Hotel at the top of its list. Why, considering it is so far from the gay areas and not close to public transport? Beats me. Advertising cash, I expect! thegaypassport.com seems to have upped its game since I last looked 2 or 3 years ago. It at least has better information on a few saunas, but yet again its hotels are almost all top of the range. Since it offers diferent prices from agoda, expedia and hotels.com, I doubt if they get a commission, but could be wrong. Why such expensive hotels are listed when there are plenty of middle and lower priced hotels as members here have noted, again beats me! I expect servers here in Thailand only get a few of the total number of travel sites. Does anyone actually use them, I sometimes wonder? Are there better ones?

No need for racist slurs.

What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps. If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE. Almost all of them do. Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine. If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there. Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number. I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is. If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him. I can always block him later if need be. If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him. Be prepared to handle the pleas for money. I don't get many of those, but I do get them. I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop. Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO." The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good. Not with me, anyway. The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room" In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room. If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth. Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

Peskov is full of shit - just like the rest of the Russian government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Of course he is concerned about flying...haven't you heard that planes in Russian Air Space spontaneous explode (just ask Yevgeny Prigozhin!) 🫣

he was, it's why they divorced