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  1. 18 points
    ggobkk

    May 2019 Trip Report

    I made it to Bangkok mid-day, yesterday, Saturday...which was Visalia Buddha Day. As FloridaRob noted elsewhere in the Forum that translates into NO ALCOHOL until midnight. I flew in on Thai airways from Hong Kong. I arrived in Hong Kong from San Francisco Friday evening. I stayed at the Regal Airport Hotel which is a walkway away from Terminal 1. It’s decent and seems to house tourists like me who don’t want to wander around the terminal and sleep on benches waiting for their connection, it also houses flight crews from a roster of airlines. Note: Romeo and Blued were filled with what looked to be flight attendants. Rant - periodically in this trip report, I may use the space to vent. Here is the first one - I was pleased to note that I was upgraded on the flight to HK...this was the second time in a week, having received the same courtesy going to London 6 days prior. Nice, but with the lay-flat seats, it’s claustrophobic! I was never comfortable in the flat bed as I’m a side sleeper. The UA beds are designed for those who sleep on their backs. Back in the days without cubbyhole business seating, the seats reclined but not into beds, I was always able to sleep...Actually, once I turned the bed into more of a recliner I slept. One more addition to this rant: is there a rule that window shades should be down throughout the flight. Only three were up even for landing. Increases my sense of being in a cave...and unlike the Thai soccer boys, not sure of a rescue. Rave - rants should be offset by raves. This rave is for my fellow Forum members. BiggusDikkus’s reminiscence of his tour led visit to Galaxy Boys, reminded me of how much reading this Forum and taking in the advice helped when I returned to Thailand after a two decade absence. Examples from the first hours of this trip. As I report on my visit, I’ll note where there was a Forum insight. Thai’s flight from HK was comfortable and all the window shades were up. I had a row to myself, the 777-300 was only half full. One incredibly handsome, sexy guy, a row over. BUT he was with his wife/girl friend and the mother of one of them was in Business. Enjoyable eye candy. Arriving close to on time, it was a good half mile to immigration. Incredibly handsome guy and family sped by in a cart. My mind goes to Crazy Rich Asians. Get to immigration and it is jammed. Forum Rave note; a few years back one of the Forum members, perhaps PaulSF, told me about the priority channel...which is for diplomats, monks, and folks over 70. I’m in one of those categories and was the only one using the channel. Note - if it hasn’t been mentioned already, immigration is collecting fingerprint scans as part of the arrival process. My luggage was arriving at the carrousel just as I did. Incredibly handsome guy was there with two assistants pulling luggage. Then I noticed that the mom was in a wheelchair...explaining the ride from the plane and the need for the help with luggage he’s still handsome... Forum rave = this was one of the very rate times I’ve arrived when the trains are running to the City. I carefully followed the directions provided more than once by Vinapu. Go to level B, use the machines, take the token, but (Forum rave) find the currency exchange as noted. My rate was 31.71 to the dollar. Took the train, changed as instructed in the Forum, using escalators and lifts, only had to tote my bag and backpack down some steps at Sala Daeng to use the escalator in the Thania Building. 90 minutes after landing I was wheeling my suitcase. Into the Tarntawan and greeted by the desk staff, one of whom has been there since the Lukas era. I had been assigned to my favorite room on the 5th floor. It’s a two room set up and has many happy memories for me of good times and many boys. I unpacked, put my important things in the safe. After washing up, I went to Prime Massage. It was 5pm and I was told I could reserve for 6pm. OK...I used the time to check for neighborhood changes. There is a hotel complex being created in the space between the Tarntawan and the apartment building across from Prime. Last year, I read the sign wrong and told DivineMadman it was an expansion of the hospital. Wrong.No construction was visible. Went to Soi 4 where the massage boys were out from both Adam and Nikrat. Tempting. I located Banana Bar on 4 but saw it would be closed tonight due to the no alcohol holiday. Tables were being set up at Telephone I checked in with my workout shirt vendor who will pull some shirts in my size for me to pick up later. Now to Patpong 2...things seem concentrated what with Screwboys and DreamBoiz on the street level, and Lucky Boys, Fresh Boys, Hot Male one flight up. Could be tricky for members who are agility shy. Back to Prime for a luxurious one hour foot massage, followed by a classic “it will feel better once the pain stops” Thai massage. Just what I need as I’d been in planes for more than forty hours in the past ten days. Masseur was Yo and I’d like to have him for another pain session. It was now 8:30 so I sought out some street food and went looking around. The Forum has a report that there were two new male bars on Patpong 1. I found Banana and let the Mamasan pull me in with a severely discounted drink price of 200...remember no alcohol so $6 for a coke...interesting set up, with what looks to be a stage in a triangular shaped room. 6 boys, all twinks. One other boy was the music master and energizer bunny. Mamasan told me she had a room upstairs. I enjoyed talking with her and about the month they had been open. Could use more business. It was too early for an off so I noted that the Udon Thani energizer was a future possibility. As I left, I was grabbed by a tout, I thought he might be from the other new gay bar...he wasn’t and I didn’t take up[ his offer for a reduced rate for watching pole dancing. I later learn the other new gay bar on Patpong 1 is right next door to Banana. I decided it was time to head over to Patpong 2...Moonlight was closed for the holy day and so was Hot Male, which I learned after I’d climbed the stairs. The grabber for Lucky Boys moved in before the Dream Bois grabber. Up a flight of brightly lit stairs, entrance lobby is brightly lit and seems to be the location for the toilets/changing areas. Let into the main room, who was there to greet me but Mamasan Lucy! Quickly she ushered me to a table with a clear view of the stage and a drink order given (350 tonight as its no alcohol until midnight). I immediately noticed no one was on the stage but there are a lot of guys in the room all are still dressed and wearing numbers as are the waiters. (Forum confirmation. = the waiters are offable). There are some other customers, two of whom are female. Lucy knows why I’m there, so I can’t pull any of Vinapu’s Mamasan brush offs. We talk, she brings over a Cambodian boy, 23 years old. I buy him a drink, we talk - we have nothing in common. There is an announcement of some sort and all the boys stand up and move to the changing areas. At 9pm, the boys, other than the waiters, move into performance wear, or lack of. Lots of smiles to me, I’m one of the few possible customers at this hour on a holy day, so I don’t put it down to my innate charm. About 30 boys take to stage with at least a dozen waiting for stage space to open up. I should note that it’s a really impressive space and well designed. But, I digress. Lucy’s chosen returns in his boxers and knowing he isn’t going to be my choice, tells me about some of the boys on stage as I indicate who looks attractive to me. Guys range between twinks and lightly muscled guys. He suggests a couple of guys - he favors Cambodians (surprise). Lucy checks in, She brings over one of the boys I was interested in. I give Mr. Cambodia 100 THB and thank him. He gives me a kiss. New guy is handsome, good tight musculature, and Vietnamese. I ask about what he likes/is willing to do. Note: he’s Vietnamese, so I’m pretty sure of the answer...to my surprise he is willing to do even less than most Vietnamese. Another 100 and thank you for your time. While my inquisition was taking place, many of the others boys swan by and blow kisses and some rub my back. Lucy brings over #22. Name is Hab. 24. Cambodian. Good English. Says in English he does everything. Lucy confirms. I like his look and his answers, so I tell him to get dressed. While he is dressing one of the waiters comes over and tells me that I will like Hab. Waiter is from Cambodia! Hab returns, I settle up. Off fee is 400. Short time agreed at 2000. Note: Lucky Boys has an accounting system. Each successive slip in the check bin, increases the total charged. So while there were multiple slips in the bin, only the most recent was the one for payment. After, Lucy insists on giving me a goodbye kiss, Hab and I leave for the Tarntawan. We pause at DreamBois for a look. Really small, shirtless guy on stage. Make a mental note to return. Back in the room at the Tarntawan he was everything he promised and more. Attentive, submissive, dominant, as needed or wished. I finished before he did and his cumshot was enormous spraying him and me. After a shower, we settled back for some in bed bonding. He left when it was time to catch his 3am visa run bus. I recommend Hab...note if you ever off him, his erogenous zone is his left nipple. I know, I know more information than is needed. All in all, not a bad first day in Bangkok. Actually, it was a great day. Please excuse typos etc as I writing this on an ipad - which limits my ability to check things.
  2. 14 points
    BiggusDikkus

    Bangkok, Night I

    It was 5:30 a.m. Tokyo time when my alarm went off but it was easy to climb out of bed. With purpose. I was leaving for Bangkok later that day and I still had to pack. It wasn't until 8:30 p.m. that I was able to check into my hotel. That's 10:30 Tokyo time. I was hungry and tired, not to mention sweaty, having had to walk and lug my suitcase for the last kilometer or so. I did not go straight up to my room to shave, shower and get myself ready for a Friday night on Silom. “Or maybe on Patpong,” I thought to myself. “Patpong is supposed to be getting busy with gay bars now that Soi Twilight has turned out the lights.” Before I could take a look around, I needed some calories. So I broke one of my Cardinal rules of traveling in Thailand — I ate dinner in the hotel's restaurant. Side note: I was the only solo diner in the place but I was mostly doing the same thing everyone else in the restaurant was, using my phone to scroll through my social media accounts. Even couples fed their smartphone addictions rather than make conversation. So rather than feel lonely, I was part of the club. I was also feeling my age. I didn't get up to my room, unpacked and showered until after 10. I was exhausted; there would be no Friday night out in Bangkok for me. All I could do was crawl in bed and let memories of my first trip to this megacity unspool in my head. That night I also broke a Cardinal rule. Was it really 23 years earlier? Must've been. Like tonight, it was a Friday, but when I arrived at my hotel much further into the night, I was exploding with energy. I just had to wash up, pull on a pair of designer jeans and a Calvin Klein T-shirt and find my way to the fabled Silom Soi 4, to Telephone, to Rome and so many other bars and clubs I had only read or heard about. Could I find the soi on my own? I probably could have squeezed my guide book, “The Men of Thailand,” into a pocket, but I wasn't going to embarrass myself. I wasn't going to look like a foolish tourist. And besides, how hard could it be? One alley over from Patpong, TMOT told me. And my hotel was a 10-minute walk down Surawong from Patpong. It would be easy. So off I went. I would sate my hunger at a street food stall on Patpong. I was going to get the full Bangkok experience. Then, finally, I began making my way to Soi 4. As I recall now, I was almost at a jog. And maybe my haste was my problem. I ended up making some wrong turns. As everyone knows, there are two Patpongs, but I let this slip my mind. When I finally did turn into Soi 4, well, that's when I broke that Cardinal rule. Only I did not realize it until several long minutes later. ”Are you looking for the gay bars?” someone asked. How did he know? That's exactly what I had been trying to do for, what, 15 minutes? Was I on the wrong street? Again? How many wrong streets could there be? I had initially missed Soi 4 and not realized it until I saw a sign for Soi 2. Surely I didn't double back too far. At least I hadn't got all the way back to Patpong. And who is my interrogator? A gay basher? I don't think I would admit to a stranger back home that I was looking for “the gay bars,” but this is Bangkok, and TMOT, while perhaps failing to give more specific directions to Soi 4, did insist that gays are not harassed in Bangkok, that even taxi drivers wouldn't think twice if I told them to take me to “the gay bars.” So I could tell this guy the truth, whoever he is. ”Yes,” I managed to say. He smiled. He knew the answer. So at least “The Men of Thailand” was right about Thais not being prejudiced against gays. I felt braver. I could safely add to my one-word reply. “Do you know where Telephone is? Is this Soi 4?” ”Follow me,” I remember him saying. “I'll take you there.” So off we went, back out of the alley I was sure was Soi 4. Apparently I had been wrong again. When we got to Silom, we turned right. We walked past the nicknack stalls of the night market. We walked by the first Patpong soi that I had missed earlier in the night. We passed the next Patpong street. Is that really a Christian bookstore on the corner? Odd place for a Christian bookstore. And aren't we going in the wrong direction? Or maybe that was my mistake all along. I was supposed to take a right at the end of Patpong, not a left. Wow, that would have saved me a lot of time. I could already be in Telephone, flirting with a cute local. Or maybe Rome. I really want to go to Rome. I've heard so much about it. The best gay nightclub in Asia, they were calling it. My new best friend then brought me out of my own thoughts. ”Where are you from?” he asked. I told him. “How many times have you been to Thailand?” “When did you arrive?” “How long are you staying?” Hey wait a minute, I thought. How far are we going to walk? One alley over from Patpong, right? And this neighborhood doesn't really look like a nighttime entertainment district anymore. In fact, we seem to be passing a hospital. A Christian hospital. I didn't realize there was such a big Christian influence in Thailand. My inner monologue is often over active. It also has the ability to make the exact same sound as a needle being dragged across a vinyl record when it's about to change topics. “Who is this guy I'm with?” I finally thought. I didn't actually ask that question out loud but I could see a little anxiety in his face as he noted my own. ”Just a little bit more,” he assured me as we turned right onto I don't know what street — a street that did not have nearly as many Friday night revelers on it as the street where I had met ... Who? Who the hell is this guy? And then it hit me. “Oh, no!” my inner monologue screamed. “I broke the TMOT Cardinal rule — ‘DON'T GO WITH TOUTS!’” ”Obviously we're not going to Soi 4,” I managed to say with a snarl. “Where are we going?” ”A gay bar,” the tout answered. “Trust me. You'll like it.” He was practiced. He recognized that I was about to turn back, so he turned into a desperate conversationalist, keeping me stupidly talking to him as we continued turning corners and walking down poorly lit streets until we were there ... Under a sign that read, Galaxy Boys. We walked up to the second floor and into a very dark, very uncrowded bar that had at least a dozen go-go dancers. All young, maybe late teens, early 20s. All with perfectly lean but beautifully defined bodies. All with smooth, bronze skin. All with long, lithe legs. All with supple calf muscles that took shape much higher toward the knee than I had ever seen before. All dressed in nothing but bikini bottoms. And those smiles! The walls appeared to be black, and there was little light, only dim beams that lit the boys on the stage. The ones in the shadows were pulling out their little soldiers and rubbing them until they stood at attention. The achievement of a full erection would bring a broad smile and a glance my way. The tout was right, I kind of did like this place. In fact, I was entranced. There's something to say for sleazy bars. Especially when no one sees you walking into one. I ordered a beer and sat back while the tout walked toward the entrance where he engaged the manager, at least I think she was the manager, in an animated conversation. More of the dancers smiled my way. I smiled back, unsure what else to do. You can probably guess the next several events. The manager and tout would return. The manager would insist one of the boys come down and sit with me. He put his hand on my thigh, and one of my hands on his thigh. His skin was warm, smooth, a little damp. I found myself in the same conversation I had been in minutes earlier with the tout. The go-go dancer took my hand and placed it further up his thigh, so that my pinky was rubbing his cock. He giggled when my head turned, betraying my startlement. ”I like you,” he said without pronouncing the k. I stared into his eyes, and as I searched for the proper response — Was there one? — he began to kiss me. It wasn't a peck, but a full, lips locked, open-mouthed, gentle jaw movement kiss that my tongue remembers well to this day. ”I like you, too,” I said, pronouncing the k and figuring I might as well state the obvious. “I'm also hard as a rock.” I don't think he understood that but the tout and manager seemed to know that the time to pounce was right and they were back at my sofa with a 2,200-baht bill. ”For one beer?” I sneered. ”No for boy off too. And must pay boy another 2,000 baht at hotel.” Apparently it had already been decided that I was taking the best kiss I had ever had back to my hotel. But I balked. I was on my way to Soi 4, remember. I never made it to my intended destination that night. I left Galaxy Boys and returned to my hotel as it had been ordained for me. ... I'm not sure what will come next, a report on Night II of my most recent trip to Bangkok, or me reminiscing about that first trip 23 years ago.
  3. 14 points
    londonboy

    Trip report May 2019

    I have been grateful to learn so much from the reviews of others over the years. Now I have just returned from my most recent visit to Bangkok, I thought I would share my experiences with everyone. It is certainly a time of change around the gogo bar scene in Bangkok just at the moment. I will include my observations of some of the new bars, alongside the old. Day 1 Flight arrived at 7pm. Quickly through fast-track immigration and bags rapidly available. Traffic into the city was terrible. This might be usual on a Friday night or possibly because of the celebrations for the Kings coronation over the weekend. Settled into hotel in Silom close to the scene. Tired, but feel like a beer and a quick look round the bars to get settled in. First visit to Lucky Boys. Arrive as the show is drawing to a close with big cock show boys walking around the crowd seeking tips for a quick feel. A big barn of a place and it is packed. Lots of staff around who find me a seat. Good layout, with a mix of booth style seating for groups and other individual or small seating areas. Lots of boys. Mostly twinks. Place empties fast at the end of the show. Not in the mood for an off, so finish drink and go back to hotel. Left with the impression that Lucky Boys has quickly established itself as the leading bar amongst the new group on Soi 1. They have probably taken lots of business from the old Dreamboys. I wonder if they will be able to sustain this longer term? Back to hotel and a lengthy sleep. Day 2 Late breakfast then a couple of hours at the hotel pool. Mid-afternoon decide to go for a massage. Keen to try 'Magic Touch by the Tree' based upon some very positive recent reviews. Arrive around 3pm. Easy to find and nice venue - clean and nicely decorated. No choice of masseur as I hadn't booked in advance and I am allocated to the next masseur on their rotation system. No problem with this in principle if all the masseurs have the same skills. Take 90 mins scrub and oil massage. Huge disappointment. Whilst masseur was friendly and attractive, his massage skills were average to poor and not a sensuous experience at all. He remained in his clothes throughout. Only towards the end did he offer me the 'special' service and suggested I'd like to tip him 2000Bht. Politely declined! He's going to have to work much harder for a tip anywhere near that size. So I leave unsatisfied, but with further opportunities ahead over the next week. I have no reason not to believe the earlier positive reviews of Magic Touch. I guess I was just unlucky in the selection of the masseur. But I'm not sure I'll go back, which is a pity given the convenient location close to my hotel. In the evening I decide to try more of the new bars - Hotmale and then Freshboys. Both bars a decent size and familiar layouts to the previous bars - with main stage area and tiered seating around 3 sides. Good number of boys in both bars - again mostly twinks - and the shows were the usual range of acts including fucking shows at the end. Freshboys has a fun group of waiters who seem to be competing with the stage boys for drinks and possible offs (the waiters all have numbers) from customers. There was lots of amusing interactions going on with the waiters. I found the waiters more attractive than the stage boys. After the 12 Midnight show, I offed my favourite waiter - back to hotel together for a couple of hours of fun. It made up for the poor massage experience earlier. Day 3 onwards to follow soon ...........
  4. 13 points
    ggobkk

    May 2019 Trip Report

    Rant of the day - it’s hot. Temperature is double what it is at home...really curtails my desire to be out and about in daytime.. So...to continue Hab left around 2am to catch his visa run bus. I slept in until almost 10am which is unprecedented for me. Tarntawan breakfast using same menu that’s been here for at least a decade. Food, though, is fresh! Haven’t seen the manager who parks his Honda in the driveway...want ask about the changes and to whom the new Imperial Hotel Surawong would be marketed. Deciding some personal care and some air conditioning was in order, I took the BTS to MBK Center and got lost finding Red Nails (2nd floor C Section). One of my offs introduced me to this salon some time ago and it is now a regular stop where I get a pedicure. I could give a series of reasons to justify the need for this procedure, formerly infected toe, broken nail, etc...BUT, it’s for the sheer pleasure of walking once the calluses are removed. Wander around MBK using my restored feet, so many areas I rarely visit. Focus on the 5th floor - crafts. Which include such artistic masterpieces as T-shirts, silk scarves. I pick up some souvenirs and must be the first customer of the day as my payment is waved over the shelves. Back to hotel to drop off my packages (2) and then head off to visit the guys at Excelsior Tailors in the Siam Heritage Hotel. It’s a social call to keep up my contact, but I don’t need anything this trip. Headed to Madrid to meet a fellow Forum member and have some pizza. Same four ladies still in charge in Madrid, it’s pointed it that several of the artworks are actually framed puzzles. Unlike some other Forum gourmets, I am not of the option that Madrid’s pizza is stellar. But I like the character of the service and the purported history. There are signs on the entry door and the bathroom door advertizin that Madrid will be celebrating its 50th year in November. (Vinapu put that in your calendar). Now, I’m off on my own, as my dining companion isn’t into the bars (at least tonight). So as I start a shortcut through the stalls of Patpong 1, I see a familiar face sitting at the entrance to Superboyz, the 2nd of the two gay bars/gogos on Patpong 1. The gatekeeper is the larger of the Twilight Hot Male mamasans. Surprised to see him / he’s surprised to see me. He leads me up a very steep flight of stairs (steep fights of stairs will be another “rant” soon enough). At the top of the stairs one turns to the left and can see the whole room - which is modestly wide and narrow (two rows of seating facing a stage. On the stage are 6 guys, types are difficult to classify. More than twinks but not by much. I thank the Mamasan for his tour and holding the handrail, head to Patpong 2. There is a traffic jam of touts, grabbers, and hangers on where Dream Boys Paradiso, Hot Male, Fresh Boys, Lucky Boys, and Screwboys are located. Out of past loyalty, I head first to Hot Male, where I’m welcomed by the previous site’s Mamasan. He shows me the outdoor bar which has potential as it overlooks Patpong 2. Note - didn’t see either of the two Twilight Hot Male grabbers, all new faces in new logo shirts. We go into the club, one of the boys waves me over to where he is sitting. He is the only one left from the previous location - he recognized me and knows that I won’t be offing him. That makes it easy to sit and checkout his version of what is happening with Hot Male. Having looked at the “talent” on stage, I mention that it sort of average and the coyote dancers aren’t up to the standard (I’ve offed two of the HM coyotes from the old location). He tells me to wait to check out one of the new boys, “just your type” he says. This is not a surprise, as I learned a long time back that the boys score their clients and note likes and dislikes and pass the information along. There may even be a secure web app for the boys to share client stories. When asked, he tells me the show is pretty much the same but they don’t have a lot of the stage space they had before. Lots of rings hanging above the stage, so that effect is still there. The mamasan joins us and tells me the boys were from Cambodia, VietNam, and Myanmar. The rotation changes and one stunning boy steps on stage (this is the one I was told I would like). I’m introduced, but it’s too early - just 9pm. I tell him I’ll be back. I may have meant it. At this point a group of non-Farangs comes in and sucks all of the attention, which gives me the chance to leave. I give #1 two red bills to my old familiar who is #1 and a god guy if you’re at HotMale. Mr Myanmar gives me a kiss. OK...next - Freshboys...as this is on the same level as Hot Male I can just walk over and avoid the stairs. As I go to enter, one of the waiters is coming out, he sees me (avoids running into me), turns and escorts me in. Room hasn’t changed since I last reported on it, U-shaped seating surrounding a thrust stage. Same mamasan as before, I don’t know her name, but she leaves me alone. Maybe 16 boys in rotation on stage, one with the face of a rascal keeps engaging with me via smiles and some crotch pulling. Waiter (#8) comes over and takes my drink order...#8 is young, but then almost everyone is, and very sexy. I invite the rascal over, he tells me he is 23 and from Vietnam. He looks much younger, very touchy feeling, puts my hand where it can roam. I buy him a drink and when #8 brings it over, I start to think about lust with a waiter. My Viet boy is not to my type. I see the last boys dressing for their musical numbers and decide its time to leave. I give Mr. 23 year old a red note and thank him for his time. Another waiter brings me my bill, so there is no chance to proposition #8. I wonder if I actually would have... Seating note...sitting to the right of the front of the stage one has a clear view of the boys dressing room. OK...now to check out Paradiso. Down a flight of stairs, using the handrail as these steps aren’t as well lit as Hot Male’s. There are now even more touts about as it’s almost showtime. Paradiso is similar in size to Stranger Bar on Soi 4. If one isn’t familiar with Stranger Bar’s layout, think narrow in width and not a lot of depth to the room. 5 muscle guys, sort of beefy, on stage. Drinks are 350...same as Hot Male price. Place is full, but not sure what that means, one other farang. Leave after I finish my drink, learning that the off fee tonight is 400. Not sure if it changes night to night. As the show is starting at Lucky Boys, I let a grabber help me up the stairs.. OK...Rant - I’m relatively agile, but the stairs at Superboyz, Freshboys, HotMale, and Lucky Boys are steep enough that Sherpas should be provided. As I’m happy so many clubs were able to relocate, (Rave) that will have to be endured. Since I was at Lady Lucy’s Lucky Boys last night and taken Hab away with me, I was greeted with ruffles and flourishes by Lucy. Boys are paraded for me, advantages, disadvantages all analyzed. At least 30 boys in the rotation, more sitting with customers. I’m the token farang, though I’ll be joined later by another. Place is fairly full, and this is a big room compared to the others I’ve visited tonight. I ask #39 to join me and buy him as drink. He’s Cambodian. On stage he looked Iike a deer caught in the headlights. Tells me, in my limited Cambodian which matches his English vocabulary, that he’s been in Thailand for half a year, at the club for a month. Since he’s sitting with me, Lucy keeps returning to see if I will off him. He and I run though the check of what he/we will do. Boxes checked, I agree to an off, He goes to change. Show begins...artsy, with elaborately costumed lady boy singers. In my jaundiced opinion, show is nothing special. #39 and I leave for my hotel. I ask if he’d like anything to eat. Offer declined. Holds myhand and guides me along Surawong. At the hotel, he recognizes it and tells me he doesn’t have his ID or passport. UGH. Frustrating. I give him 200 and he departs. It’s now somewhere after 11pm. I go up to my room, realize I’m, being foolish and head to Screwboys, with a thought that maybe the waiter at Freshboys....(thought left unfinished). At Screwboys, I’m shown to a table where a couple is already seated, and I’m wedged in. All the tables and seats are taken, crowd is about 30% female. I am (again) the only farang (in the Euro-Caucasian sense). I no more than sit down and I’m waved at by a two time former off, he’s changed his name to Yoyo. I invite him over, no room to sit, Mamasan finds a place by the stage. Yoyo and I are familiars, I don’t have to ask any questions about do’s and don’ts. Decide to skip my #8 waiter hunt. I pay the fee of 400. I ask if he wants any food and he gets some Durian from a street vendor. We have that back at the room before we get into bed and do things. His cumshot is even greater than Hab’s the previous night. Yoyo tells me I’m his first customer this week (it’s Sunday, and I don’t ask when his week started) but it’s a magnificent tribute to abstinence. We hang out in bed for a while and then shower together. He’s a good guy, genuinely handsome, and Vietnamese. The only Viet, who when i met him 2 years ago, was more than willing to do everything and mean it. Now he’s put on some guard rails, but not for me, or I didn’t cross them. I give him 2000. We say good night, and the Line messages and photos begin on Line. Comment - mentioning that I’m one of the few farangs I notice in the clubs, the mamasans who chat me up and that’s at least 3, tell me the customers are mainly Chinese, but indicated that more and more are really Taiwanese, and they are seeing more Koreans. Japanese are few are far between - unless it’s a girly bar in Thania. I’m going to take a break now...had thought I’d include my Moonlight report here...but it’s time for my massage and I need to get to Arena. Thanks for the PMs, I hope I put the answers into this portion of the report.
  5. 11 points
    ggobkk

    May 2019 Trip Report

    Actually, this is a preliminary notice prior to a report. I leave tomorrow for a 2 weeks in Thailand, I'll stop in Hong Kong on Friday and get to Swampy mid-day Saturday. I'll be in Bangkok for 8 days and then six days in Pattaya, staying in Jomtien. Any forum members who might want to meet up send me a PM. I've been in touch with two members and we have hazy tentative plans about meeting. Today, began with a bit of controlled horror - I woke to a buzzing on my wrist as my watch replayed a text from my bank saying there had been an unauthorized charge. After the call and agreement that I'd not authorized a charge in Cyprus, my card was cancelled with a new one being sent. Pain in the... as this is my principal card for purchases. But there are other cards so I'm substituting. Then I visited the dentist to have repairs made to two teeth. Back at home, a call from my credit union telling me they had a charge from Cyprus! This is the card I use at ATMs when I travel as it has no fees. Ugh...this is not my day and it's only 11am. The credit union is a ten minute walk from where I live and I head there as the notice I'd received was automated, and wanted too too many codes and waiting times on hold to accomplish anything. At the office, the manager said hello and how could he help. I told him, and he helped. In a few minutes, I had a new ATM card and withdrew cash to change at the rail station at BKK. I'm looking forward to a rest from dealing with effects of Cypriots getting my card information and a respite from seeming constant traveling: Mid-April I flew to China, then back to the Bay Area, then on to the UK. From where I returned yesterday to attend two meetings. Tomorrow off to Thailand via HK. I'm looking forward to inspecting and evaluating and enjoying the revitalized entertainment zone(s) and having some massages. Sorry to be missing PaulSF and DivineMadman who have lef to rest up for their next sojourns in Thailand. Not sure if I report from the scene or when I return in June...but I swear to the spirit of Vinapu that I will report. PS: Some good news...United Airlines just called to tell me I'd been upgraded for the flight to Hong Kong.
  6. 11 points
    This is my 5th trip to Thailand and my first trip with my husband and child. All my previous trips were solo. I will try to focus on the more interesting gay parts of my trip, a fact that will probably make this trip report shorter than previous ones, considering the specific nature of this trip. A brief intro, 35 yo Israeli married + 1. Last trip was 16 months ago; I came for White Party 2018. At that time I knew it would take me some time to come again alone to Thailand and I set my mind on returning for Songkran 2019. As time passed by, I started realizing that I will not be able to pull those dates off so I set my mind on the week after which was also Jewish Passover. But, my partner was less enthusiastic on letting me travel solo during the holiday since he had tons of work and was not able to take full care of our daughter this time. I understood him and the situation but I still missed my BKK. So instead I decided to try and make it a family trip. I realized that traveling with our daughter while my husband had tons of work that he will have to do during our vacation is not my best option. So I convinced his parents and siblings to join us. It was quite easy, who doesn't want to have his vacation in Thailand? So this was a big family trip that I planned and arranged to all of us. I also knew that the maximum time that we should all spend together is a week. More than that will be too much family time for all the people involved J So for this big trip, I scheduled a weekend in BKK for all of us, then mid-week we spent at a resort in Krabi and then we split so my husband, daughter and I had another weekend in BKK without the rest. It took me lots of planning, booking, coordinating for the whole group. But it was worth it. We flew the weekend after Songkran. This year, a smaller Israeli airline, Arkia opened the 2nd direct TLV-BKK route. It was a shitty flight with a 25yo plane. But my daughter and I slept most of it so I didn't care much. Having a 2yo child in BKK has its advantages. We didn't need to queue almost anywhere. Once Thai airport staff saw we were with a stroller we were guided to go to fast track which was nice. Since this trip I was not alone, I tried to leave little room for mistakes so I asked Lebua to send us a van with a proper seat for my daughter. 2500 THB. Arrived at the Tower Club @ Lebua state at 6 PM Friday evening. Hotel is nice but I think for its cost, 235 USD a night, there are many better options than that one. But, my sister in-law really wanted to stay in the hotel of the film "The Hangover 2" so I let her have it her way. It's a very nice hotel with large rooms and high balconies observing BKK and free lounge. Excellent service and professional staff. We had dinner at Siam Discovery's Outback. Again, not my first choice, but I usually comprise about things I don't care that much. After that we put our daughter to sleep and the pre-booked hotel nanny arrived (300THB per hour). Now It's dads time for our night out in BKK. It's my husband's first night in BKK and I was keen on showing him some of BKK’s jewels. Arrived at Jupiter just in time for the show. We both enjoyed the eye candy show and it was a full house. Offing was not an option considering the fact that our daughter was with us in our suite. Some of the stars there are really impressive and for sure would be an good offing option for us, although it seems to me they are better at being looked at than actually having fun with, but I maybe wrong here. From there off to Moonlight. It was my first time there, and after reading some threads about it, I has higher expectations. House was almost empty. Some of the guys were hot but it was by far less entertaining then Jupiter. It could have been that it was the 2nd show of that night and maybe it's always like that in later hours. But even with taking into consideration the late hour of the second show, something about their show was just not sexy enough. Maybe coming in time for first show is a better option, but we did not have time to check that out. After that, we went to DJ station. A solid stable BKK institution. House was full and we enjoyed the crowd. I never liked too much the music there… too much pop for my ear. My husband liked it more than me. Anyways, we both enjoyed our time there since the combo of guys, music and alcohol can’t be beaten J We were not actually looking for sex since we were both very tired and also things were a little logistically complicated with having a stranger as a nanny in our room so we preferred calling it a night. The morning after my husband had to work, so I took all the rest to Siam Paragon – they did shopping and I took my daughter to Sea World. Sea World is just one of many nice things that I would have never think on even easting my time in BKK if I was without my daughter. Having said that, it is the most impressive aquarium I have seen compared to those in the States and Europe. I took her back just in time for her nap, I had a vision in my mind that while she is napping and my husband is working in our room, it is my time to shine. Arrived at the Prince at about 3PM. BKK was very rough on traffic our entire stay so whenever I went alone I took a motor taxi. I entered and chose the most muscular ripped guy I saw and we went together to the room. After showering I waited about 3 minutes. Then, the mamasan guy knocked on the room and told me that I had to choose another guy since he couldn’t work now. I found it weird, but decided that I don’t care that much and went outside to choose another guy. On my way out back to choosing, I saw the guy that I choose coming back to my room as if everything is as usual, then the manager stopped him and they argued loudly in Thai. This thing seemed very unprofessional but again – I didn’t care that much. The manager said he is sorry and that the guy I chose is bad service etc… I told him OK and went to choose me another guy. The mamasan guy in Prince is generally unhelpful by saying all the guys are great there and excellent service so I again choose by intuition. I choose another muscle guy. Massage is as I usually get in prince, very sexual, lots of oil involved, muscles flexing and genitals being rubbed and touched until we both climax. Tipped the guy 1500 THB, and left very happily to my room and even had a one hour nap before our daughter wakes up and we continue our evening together with daddy being much happier after his massage haha.
  7. 11 points
    I have been worried since Soi Twilight closed as so many have said the area was gloom and doom and the gogo scene in Bangkok was dead. I have no idea where these ideas came from. The scene is just as active and vibrant as before. The venues have changed. The beer bars are gone but the bars and the gogo scene is great. I was in three bars tonight on Patpong 1: FreshBoys, LuckyBoys, and Screwboys. All three were excellent. All had a plethora of sexy guys to choose from and the boys were just as plentiful as before. In fact, I think the bars have been upgraded as I certainly did enjoy the new seats, new looks, and lighting. Do not listen to the naysayers. It may take some time to walk around and see everything. But, the gay scene and the gay gogo bars are great in gay Thailand and Bangkok's scene is fun and active.
  8. 11 points
    Carrying on where I stopped. I returned to our room as happy and satisfied as I returned the day before. My husband was curious regarding my experiences and he mentioned that in our second weekend in BKK he would like to try it out too. As I told him before, I will happily show him all the goods BKK has to offer. That evening grandma and grandpa offered to babysit so we have the night out with no foreign babysitter in our room. I pre-booked for my husband, his siblings and I another fancy dinner @ L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon which is located very near to the Kings Power Mahanakhon’s tower. This time, in my opinion, the money was worth it’s value (about 16K THB 4 ppl). A beautiful restaurant with fine French food made to its best. After that we all went to gay Sundays night @ Maggie Choo’s (300 THB + 1 drink). In my experience BKK’s finest gay crowd can be found at this venue. A perfect mixture of local high class Thais, Expats and some tourists. Generally speaking I don’t like drag shows, but at Maggie Choo’s I do. The shows are professional, funny and entertaining. His siblings call it a night after half an hour saying it’s too crowded for them (yep, that is the reason I like it), leaving us dancing flirting and drinking until 1 AM when we return to our room. Next morning we get ready for our Krabi flight. I will now dedicate one paragraph to describe the next four and a half days of our trip. No gay fun staff went on there except sex between my husband and I. We stayed in Krabi at the Dusit Thani (170 USD per night). Resort is very nice and relaxing. I had an almost regular daily routine which combined of gym, beach, pool, genuine massage, drinks, hotel restaurants and sleep. At our last night, my husband had the luck of breaking his laptop which means he cannot work anymore and can only have fun in BKK. I didn’t feel sorry for him when that happened. When it was Friday again, we said good bye to all the others and flew back to BKK while his siblings continued on to Koh Phi Phi and his parents to Singapore. I Wanted a pre noon flight to BKK so that when we arrive to BKK, our daughter goes straight to her nap and her dads to go and have a massage. Now that it was just the 3 of us, I knew that I wanted intense babysitting help. I also knew I wanted 2 bedroom suite with locks for our room. I made cancel-able reservations at about 12 different hotels and started investigating the suite structure and the hotel’s ability to provide a proper live-in nanny. Most of the good hotels in BKK mentioned they used the same agency for nannies so I contacted directly that agency (Thaikidshome.com) and booked us a live-in nanny to help us during our weekend of fun in BKK. Also consulted the agency regarding accommodation and from my already booked options they were highly supportive of The Ascott 2 Bedroom Suite (170 USD a night). So we arrived at The Ascott at Friday, checked in, met our lovely nanny for this weekend, put our daughter to sleep and arrived at 3PM to The prince for my husband’s first massage in BKK. I took him to the Prince since as a first experience I believe that that place is less overwhelming than others and cleaner which will be important for him. We sat down, I explained him the rules of the game and let him choose. As he always does, he asked me who would I have chosen. I started looking through the glass. I see this sculpted young guy that looked familiar. I wasn't sure where from but I was sure I wanna enter a room with that guy. All I just hoped is that my husband does not fancy him. I told my husband I am not going to choose for him so he just needs to look at the guys and choose someone he fancies. Luckily, he did not choose my guy, he chose someone else. Off they went. Now it's my turn to choose. I ask the unhelpful mamasan about that guy and he said to me that he is gay can be top or bottom and is a good masseur. I continue to look at him since he seemed familiar. It took several more seconds for me to realize that this guy is the guy I put my eye on at the club a week ago. I tried locating that guy on the apps, unsuccessful and here he is now standing in front of me, shirtless as he was in the club showing off his perfect ripped body. Several minutes later we are in the room. As I mentioned before, fucking is usually not my thing in those massages. But, knowing that this guy is versatile and having actively looking for him in the apps made me very very excited during this massage. I made it clear that the part of me facing down and him rubbing me is of little interest to me although he was good at it. Then it was just a hot sex encounter with lots of oil, touching, kissing and me fucking him and his tight hole and muscular ass. I was so horny and excited during that encounter that I was actually able to cum with a condom on my dick. For me that is a rare occasion. If my memory serves me right - this was my best encounter in Prince. Asked the guy for his name, I think he said something that sounds like "Cha". I said goodbye to another 1500 THB, and left happily to the lobby. I spared my excitement from my husband and just asked about his experience. His first experience was good yet he mentioned that as a massage it was less professional. I then reminded him that we are not going to Bangkok for professional massages haha. From Prince back to our room, and we took our daughter for some more kids fun stuff at CentralWorld. After putting her to sleep we went for drinks at Balcony and some more dancing at DJ Station. Decided to call it a night at about 2AM.
  9. 11 points
    First, thanks to Michael for giving me a call saying he would like to see some of the changes going on in Patpong now that Twilight is closing down. We usually meet up at Maxi’s and then head off. The meeting up point now being changed to ...... need a new Maxi’s. I’ve met up with a couple other forum members at Banana Boys Bar on Soi 4. It works ok . Hot Male is still open in Twilight so we decided to meet there and then walk over to Patpong. Arranging the bar hopping was quite simple. I know Michael would prefer to skip shows. Schedule works great for those of you wanting to ship shows.. FreshBoys 2. Show at 10. LuckyBoys show at 10:30. Screwboys show at 11. We went to FreshBoys at 9:30-10. LuckyBoys 10-10:30. Screwboys 10:30-11. Time to have drink , meet some boys, have some fun. Leaving Screwboys at 11 gives you an hour to go back to a favorite bar before the midnight shows start, or just take the boys you have accumulated home with you. Michael was surprised that all the new places were just steps from each other. Hot Male will be opening soon and next to FreshBoys Within 2 minutes you can be at all these new Patpong clubs. We didn’t plan on going to Dreamboys, but standing out front talking to some friends for a few minutes, it appeared to be full with customers and several shirtless boys were wandering around out front. More places should have shirtless boys out front than old Mamasans luring us in. To me these places have been somewhat show dependent. During Songkran weeks, places were overflowing with customers. Now for last couple of weeks, 15 minutes before show time very few customers and as show starts, customers arrive. Show ends and many leave . Many here on the forum don’t like the shows, but they do draw in customers. Thanks Michael and another forum member we met up with in Screwboys. It was a fun Saturday night.
  10. 11 points
    Will7272

    April trip report

    I arrived last Friday evening from Australia via Malaysia airlines, 7pm. I was dreading the airport and freeway congestion but all good. Through immigration, collected my luggage and into my pre booked car within 30 minutes. A record. Then the roads were empty. Into the Crowne plaza in Silom 35 mins later and into my room by 8:15. WTF ! So some time for a quick walk around to survey the new venues post the demise of Soi T. I’ve previously posted my love of Soi T and especially Maxis. But the Soi was more than that, it’s was self contained. Bars, gogo shows, massage and boys. Nothing better than my evening ritual of sitting a Maxis each evening watching the coming and going at bkk massage, fresh boys etc and downing a few Long Island ice teas. I digress. I headed to Patpong 2 to survey the set up. So ok there the new placed, dream boys Paridiso etc and screw and fresh. But there is no atmosphere. No bar to sit and watch. Well there are bars of course but nothing appealing. Anyway I sat at one of the bars next to screw boys and downed a few beers. Then back to my room about midnight for some sleep. Should mention that it’s fucking HOT. Never known such heat, even in the evening so that is slowing me down a bit during the day. So to Saturday night. I started the evening in the hotel club bar. Free drinks from 5 to 8. Bonus. Then off to Soi 4 which I’ve not explored before, only a visit to Jupiter last year. I was in search of a bar to just sit for a while as I like to do. It was early ~ 8:30 and the Soi was a bit quiet. First stop was banana bar. I was the only customer, with 4 waiters busy on their phones when I sat down. Drink ordered, but no atmosphere here. Waiters too engrossed in their phones to even get passing customers attention. Only positive was watching the arriving boys for the upstairs venue, I recall fresh boys venue now ? Anyway I then moved on to Telephone bar. It’s was starting to get a little busier and I got good seat to survey the Soi. Waiters were attentive and friendly. Stayed about a hour and will go back tonight. Next into Taiwan. 9:30 ish and only a few customers. Drinks 500 bt. Outrageous. A few chunky boys on stage but nothing outstanding to speak of. Other guys sitting round the place on their phones. Didn’t stay for the show, just a bit sad for a Saturday night. But on exiting the place a guy I’ve seen before from one of the massage places adjacent to Taiwan grabbed me. The is very handsome and soon lifted his T-shirt to show me his muscular stomach. He then grabbed my hand and pushed it down his jeans. Nice. If only I was younger, fitter and not so drunk it would hav3 been magic, but I gave him a few hundred bt and went back to my hotel alone. But he made this old dude happy for a minute or two. Off to check out Fresh boys in Soi 4 tonight.
  11. 10 points
    Continuing where I stopped. Saturday morning was spent again in CentralWorld this time with the help of our nanny so some actual shopping was able to be done. After that, it's nap time which means again a massage for the daddies. I took my husband to Arena. We entered and there were about 30 men there. I again gave him the right to pick first, this time it was quite obvious that there is only one REALLY hot guy there so he chose him. That guy was beautiful and muscular and I envied my husband for having a massage with him. Manager explained us that specifically for that guy, the minimum tip is 1000. I found it weird but said ok and off they went. After they left I realized that although I have 30 men in front of me, none of them are ones I actually want to have fun with so I decided to wait and maybe someone else would come. The whole time I was there, there was not a single walk in. I waited inside 50 minutes for my partner, which was a bit of a weird experience. When he happily came out we agreed that he will return to our suite to be with our daughter and I am going to try my luck elsewhere and return later to the hotel. He did mention that the Arena guy was also an excellent masseur but he did not get his name. After escorting my husband back to our hotel, I ordered a motor taxi. I decided that it is my time to explore some unexplored territories. So I put VClub7's address on the Grab app and took a motor taxi there. Half an hour later and closer to lung cancer than I have ever been, I arrived. It is a long drive for a motorcycle since that place is far. I noticed that the guys entering the place are hot. These guys are headed not to the massage but to the sauna (Chakran) which is located at the same place. I take a mental note of that and enter the massage area. About 14 guys on display, most of them are at least cute, and probably even more than that. Choosing was easy since there was one tall, muscular model at the back. I would say that a lot of that place reminds me of Prince but it is maybe a little more professional and expensive. I went with my guy to our room. Room is nicer than prince with mirrors located at better position, bigger bed and a more transparent shower. Encounter with that guy was great with lots of oil, rubbing, muscles flexing, touching. Guy's name sounded like "Ex" and he is from Chang Mai and suggested we exchange Line Id's. Since I was very satisfied I gave him 2000THB which is more than the already high minimum tip there which is now 1500 THB. But he was worth it. Maybe next time I just call him to my room or something. All and all this was a very good experience. Not sure if I will return just because of the distance. Once I returned, we spend some time with our child. I told my husband we should check out the Chakran sauna and that even though it's far, it looks promising. I already knew that they have something called O-Party at 9PM. I remembered that term from R3 (reopened nowadays as sauna Ratchada) as a massive orgy. We left the hotel at 8PM since I knew we had a long ride ahead of us and this time a motor taxi was not involved. I used Grab to order a taxi which worked really well for me this entire trip. I asked the driver to use the freeway and that I will pay its toll (50THB). I was surprised but that worked very well and we arrived 25 minutes later. Place is almost as clean as Babylon which is a lot nicer than Sauna Mania and resembles R3. We are the only foreigners in the house and the house is full - these are absolutely fucking perfect conditions for an evening of fun. Crowd is very much my taste with mostly fit, young Asians. The guys I talked with were mostly Thai, Chinese or Japanese. We waited to see what happens at 9PM just to find out it’s more of a show rather than a massive orgy. Show consisted of twinks having fun with each other. It was nice but not as fun as R3 massive O-Party. After about half an hour the show ended and the real fun started. That place is a buffet of my favorite dish. We stayed there for about 3 hours having fun with the Asian dishes served that night. I enjoyed that place very much and hopefully will return for seconds in the future. Although this sauna is far, I think that it's probably the best sauna in BKK if seeking Asian fun. After easting some Japanese ass, I had a sudden rush for Ramen, so after leaving Chakran we had a very late dinner at a Japanese restaurant nearby. From there we carried on to drinks at Balcony and after that to Saturday night party at G Bangkok. I saw there again Cha, the guy I saw there a week before and yesterday had the privilege to have a great time with. He was with his local friends and seemed really embarrassed when he saw me so I decided to let him have his space. After some more dancing, we were both tired from this day and called it a day. Last part coming soon.
  12. 10 points
    So after my massage and nap, I was happy and patient on carrying on that evening. Our daughter woke up and we took her by foot to see a little more of the city. We hopped on a ferry so she can see the river and enjoy the ride. When we went out after one station, we entered ICONSIAM which is a new beautiful and luxurious new mall on the wrong side of the river. After exploring that mall we entered a taxi back to Lebua. My first explicit homophobic encounter in BKK was at that taxi when the driver realized that we were a family end just kept saying stuff like “2 dads no good” etc. My husband got upset, but I told him that we are not going to change or educate no one in one taxi drive so we just let him take us back to our hotel and finished that unfortunate encounter. I would have felt quite differently if my daughter understood English but since she didn’t, I didn’t care much about a BKK taxi deriver’s opinion regarding my beloved family. This evening was the evening we all decided to have a fancy Passover dinner. Passover Seder Eve was actually on the evening of our arrival but we decided to take it easy yesterday and have a fancy dinner celebrating the holiday on this evening, a day later. Babysitter arrived at our room since taking a 2 yo child to a fancy restaurant is a sure way to not enjoy our dinner. We spent with her about half an hour to see that she communicated well with our child and then left the room. I ordered us a table at the hotel’s most famous restaurant Sirocco. It is at the top of the hotel. It is a fancy and impressive restaurant. I think that the picture of that roof top restaurant is one of BKK’s recognizable pictures. We had a very nice dinner there. Food was good, service as well and the view and atmosphere were almost magical with a live band playing jazz music. Still, same as everything in that hotel – if you take the money spent there, I think there are better restaurants and experiences in BKK than this one. But I have no reason to complain since that meal's 22K BHT bill (for 6 ppl) was paid fully by my father in-law. From there we went all to King Power Mahanakhon’s new rooftop glass floor. A scary and funny experience walking on transparent floor at 75 floor high. After that they all went back to the hotel to sleep and we took a taxi to SOI 4. Entered Banana Boys for their midnight show. Show was entertaining and more explicit than shows we saw yesterday. Still, not sexy in my opinion. Maybe it is I that has changed and not the shows but if I compare these shows to the shows I’ve seen in Hustlaball Köln half a year ago – those were sexy shows which actually made me horny. The shows that I’ve seen in BKK this trip did not make me horny but were more of light entertainment. Also, none of the guys in that bar were our type. Still, we enjoyed this light entertainment and drink. From there, as I try to do every Saturday evening spent in BKK, we went to G Bangkok (formally known as G.O.D). This is my favorite club in BKK: real loud house music, smoking allowed in side, sexy shirtless Asian man in a packed tiny space. You can’t go wrong there. Saturday eve was no different. There was one guy that specifically caught my eye and will later on this trip will catch more than that. If we were on a hunt I’m sure we would catch one or more new Asian friends to come with us back in the room but we weren’t so we just enjoyed the club, flirting, drinking and at about 3AM we went back to our room, paid the sitter and went to sleep. I kept my daughter all this trip still in Israel time so she woke up at 10AM which was great considering our late return the day before. My partner still had to work so I took her that late morning to my favorite BKK mall: CentralWorld. There we enjoyed some kids stuff and retuned just in time for her nap and for me pulling off yesterdays drill all over again. Arrived at Arena by motor taxi at about 4PM. About 25 men there all staring at me trying to catch my attention but none of them did. I was ready to leave back to Prince but then a familiar face and a very sexy body joined the group. Panu. I already knew I would have fun with that guy since we already had some fun 3 years ago. I chose him and had my ride. Again, a very sexual massage emphasized on my thighs and genitals which is exactly the way I like it. We both are top, a fact which never bothered me on massages cause I usually don’t want any fucking involved. Still, I felt like I have to violate in some way his perfect ripped body. I asked him to lay on his belly and oiled his entire body while fucking his ripped thighs as he was flexing them for me. That was a hot way to cum and a well deserved 1500BHT was given. Same as yesterday, I returned happy and energized to our room.
  13. 9 points
    alex303

    Pattaya.... What's going on?

    I was in Pattaya for 3 nights / 4 days late April (first time back in over 16 months after I swore I would not return) and found the change very obvious after some time away Boyztown Toyboys - still same polite / good management but too many of the older Laos / Khmer boys still clinging on there, was steadily busy (a good bar still) but badly needs some new blood I felt, couple of the newer Khmer boys were very easy on the eye though Cupidol - definitely the most fun bar & boys in Boyztown for me, only bar I offed a couple from but one of them I'd know already for 2 years, but fairly weak management BoyzBoyzBoyz - walked inside, decided not to stop...boys in jeans and not a lot going on Dreamboys - plenty of boys on stage but felt a lot more str8 than past years, less gay boys that my gaydar could discern...but had a fun couple of drinks in there and my off from Cupidol asked to go in to say hello to a Khmer pal X-Boys - lord....still trotting out the old WWB style shows, poor mama who's known me for year assured me there were a couple of guys I would like so I nursed my G&T and grimly hung on thru the decades old candle wax shows etc...when said boys did appear I felt no stirrings in my boxer briefs and so politely departed after dispensing a few tips Jontien Complex Only made it to here one night and had a couple of drinks in Sun bar with 3 guys I knew which was funny, seemed to be more people around that in BT but still very quiet on previous years...but that's low season. Went to morlam one night and was still fun but so damn hot to be drinking beer outside in an open field However I DID still have a fun 3 days there as met up with 2 Thai, 2 Khmers, 1 Laos & 1 Myanmar in the time (2 of those were bar offs)....but most of them were working other jobs now and I've know for a few years (catching up after time away is always pleasant)...there's still fun to be had just not as much in the bars these days.
  14. 9 points
    anddy

    Superboys & Sweet Banana

    did a quick survey of the new patpong twilight. Starting from Silom, going through Patpong 1 and saw chillout boys (empty), and Sweet Banana (a handful of boys on stage, no or almost no customers, kinda pushy door people). Didn't see Superboys. Went to the old Twilight to have a quick glance, no fully boarded up, including Hotmale which still looked open a few days ago when driving past. A quick sidetrip to Soi Wallstreet revealed a closed G Boy bar. Then on to Patpong 2. Had a drink at New Hotmale beer bar with one of the waiters who likes me. Was kinda hoping to find @paulsf there, but didn't. Couldn't look inside the bar as they collected admission fee of 350 outside. On to Dreamboy P., they even said "can look first", so that's what I did. Told one of mamasan's (in Thai) that I was there only for a quick look at all the new establishments and would come back another day for show etc. No issue with that, friendly chat. DBP looked rather small to me. Many shirtless guys outside the bar, none of them really my type lol. Next stop Lucky Boys. Suprised how large it is. Looks fancy, too. Mamasans did seem pushy trying to escort me to a seat. I just stopped before entering the actual bar area, had a look around, a boy massaged my neck from a seat above lol. On the way out spotted an unusual looking boy in the dressing room. Unusual because he had VERY dark skin and facial features were somewhat reminiscent of an Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi guy (not normally my cup of the, but he was cute with lively eyes) We made eye contact and I asked him where he was from. Laos. Kinda surprising given the looks. Told him I'd come back another day (which I am indeed planning to do). Number 42. On the way home passed Soi 4 and saw the new Banana Boys but didn't go in. All in all, as Michael said in the other thread, things are alive and kicking indeed.
  15. 9 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    As arranged since last week, I went to pick up my babe boy around 11:30 at moonlight.. Mamasan was waiting for me outside the club (she called me while I was in the hotel elevator to make sure I was on my way).. she waved at me when she saw me walking into the lane .. I didn't have to enter the club, she said babe boy was ready.. while we were talking, he came out and greeted to me.. my heart was pounding fast and I could feel it as if it was up in my throat.. then he went inside again to collect his stuff.. I felt a bit awkward since two or three doormen were looking at us.. after a couple minutes, he came out again, with a backpack, and all set to go .. I gave the off fee (model off fee) plus tip to Mamasan .. he also was giving them (mamasan and doormen) tips.. I was so thrilled with joy that I was even ready to make the same mistake which I did with Nicky last year.. this time, it was not him, but myself who offered him if he wanted to go eat anything, like japanese .. but he said he just had "a buffet" and was full.. so we just crossed the road and went to my hotel right away.. after we got to my hotel, I showed him my collection of his pictures and video clips on pornhub and other porn sites.. we spent a few minutes warming up, watching his own video clips and chatting about his family and his girl friend.. he let me know his limits .. (but in reality he became more relaxed at the end, broke some of his rules for me).. as a self claimed straight guy, he didn't do much (yet).. in addition, he is a very shy boy, the most uptight among 3 models I have met from moonlight.. but he is the one with the most potential (after nicky) .. He stayed with me for about 2 hours .. I asked him if he could stay overnight.. he said he has never stayed overnight with customers.. we hugged again and I noticed that he still had the hardon... he said he jerks off every morning … I paid his tip to him, kissed on his cheek, hugged his small, yet completely muscular body again.. he said "forget me" walking out of my room.. I said "I will come find you tomorrow again." we laughed together.. and he left. Overall, it was a very satisfying experience to me .. he was quite shy (which I don't mind), but became more accommodating towards the end.. good enough to quench my curiosity. if someone asks me if I am willing to spend that much baht again for any model from moonlight, I would say yes and it will be for him.
  16. 8 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    Restless and reckless Cinderella just before the midnight: Having missed my very first experience at Screw boys last year, I decided to go back there last night. It was Jason who brought me there last year. Thank you again Jason and I still miss you. It was a Saturday night, and the club was fully packed to its maximum capacity. I got there around 11 pm and the show seemed to have just started. The room was completely filled with the smoke, but I decided to sacrifice some of my respiratory tract … the show was indeed quite long to my taste, including many lady boy performances, and one hard core performance between two young lads. The mamasans there did not pressure me at all, left me alone, but available when in need. I especially liked the one with more manly look in specs. According to mamasan, there were quite a lot of Vietnamese guys at their club (maybe it has become universal).. I spent almost 90 minutes inside the club under the smoke. After I got back to my hotel, my previous night boy from LuckyBoys messaged me and asked me if I wanted to meet. So, I went out again to Foodland, took out some food for him. and he came to Foodland, and we came back to my hotel room together. He left my hotel around 5 am this morning... I have seen many interesting characters and events on this trip. It's very eye opening to me. Looking forward to more.
  17. 8 points
    I counted 60 boys. But, the mamasan said 80. There was a full stage of guys with a ton of variety. That is the bar I chose a guy from and had a lovely time with him. PaulSF will have to give you more details as he planned the night for me and we hit 4 places. The goal for him was for me to see the bars but miss the shows as I don't really care for them and he planned things perfectly. I think the drinks were 350 baht per drink. The bars were not packed but plenty of customers in each. LuckyBoys is huge. Screwboys is the same makeup as before and nothing changed. I was able to meet another poster from this lovely board last night that I have wanted to meet. All in all, it was an excellent night. I am not often into the bar scene as I like massages and the like. But, I was very happy to see that the scene is still fun, enjoyable and lots to choose from.
  18. 7 points
    Michael

    Two nights in Pattaya - May 17-18 2019

    I had some friends from the USA who wanted to see Pattaya for a few days and I took them for a visit. It was not a gay bar visit as this was a straight couple from the USA. We stayed at the Royal Cliff Beach Hotel and it was great. Beautiful view, great room, good breakfast, and good service. I didn’t book the room, so I don’t know the rate, but breakfast was 715 baht for extra guests. https://www.royalcliff.com/ We had one dinner at Natan’s in Jomtien. It was excellent. Beautiful restaurant, good food and tasted great. I had a crepe and it was very good and I had a good dessert. The service was excellent and I was happy with the food. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293919-d1500638-Reviews-Natan_s-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html One morning we ate at the Sky Gallery Pattaya. Food was OK but the view amazing. A good breakfast place. https://www.facebook.com/theskygallerypattaya/ We had dinner at HOPS on Beach Road. I had the lasagna and it was good. http://hopsbrewhouse.co.th/ We also had some good drinks at the Hilton Sky Bar. Beautiful view and 2 for 1 drinks for 340 baht. The sunset over Pattaya was beautiful from this place. https://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/thailand/hilton-pattaya-BKKHPHI/dining/horizon.html My favorite place was La Baquette Phratumnak Hill Jomtien. The food was amazing. The atmosphere was excellent. I ended up purchasing some extras for taking away. I loved the atmosphere and food. I’ll visit this again each time I visit the city. All in all, 2 nights and 1 full day and filled with activities. I loved the pool at the Royal Cliff and I loved staying there in the day after breakfast.
  19. 7 points
    DivineMadman

    Introduction

    Guys - VCK is a brothel. So is Prince. (For that matter, so is Bangkok Massage, Myhero, etc., etc., etc.). So are most of the other shops we discuss. They don't provide much training, don't advertise as having trained-and-licensed masseurs. You might fid a guy who gives good or great "legit" massages, but that's all upside. Don't go in expecting it. These places offer erotic/sensual "massages" for relaxation and foreplay, plus sexual services. That's all that you or I can realistically expect at these places. That's what you get for the advertised price. If you go with those reasonable expectations and understandings you will more likely than not have a good time. Asnstudent has it right. There are other shops that advertise or try to distinguish themselves more on massage skills, or that don't so much hire the pretty boys so maybe the massages might be a tad bit better. If that's more important, then don't go to VCK, Prince, etc. It's really that easy. If you don't like the cost - don't go. Go elsewhere. And be happy. Asnstudent also has it right that 9:30 meeting means 9:30, not 9:35.
  20. 7 points
    DivineMadman

    Introduction

    Thank you for your great report. I hope you had a good time. It's a good reminder that there are always good and less good parts of any trip and you -- and GoldMember -- have exactly the right attitude: don't let the minor hiccups interfere with your overall enjoyment of the trip. (Also I secretly enjoy that your posts are driving some of the forum money police apoplectic.)
  21. 7 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    So, I went to Dream Boys Paradiso and my plan was to off Mr Perfect Guy without entering the club. When I mentioned Mr. Perfect Guy's number to the doorman, he asked me to wait, he went inside, but came out to my frustration saying that Mr Perfect Guy was not working that day. The doorman didn't seem to have plan to let me walk away that night without any contribution to their business.. he insisted that I went inside and have a look at available guys. Because I was very reluctant to go inside, he asked me to take a look at the guys from the back door. it was even more weird. So, I went into the club instead. The place, as we all know here, was a tiny one. There were about 7-8 guys in jeans on the stage parading. None of them was appealing to me. There were more female than male customers in the club. The show started a few minutes later, with two guys dancing in their shirts and jeans.. followed by two ladyboys .. it was when one of the two ladyboys lifted her dress and showed off her male genitalia I paid my bill (350 baht) and left that place. The advantage? I did have a chance to give a feedback about their camera and violation of their customers' privacy to one of their mamasans who said she would mention it to her boss. So, Drim, I had to save your Mr Perfect Guy for my next trip. one of the mamasans inside said he was with a customer for a few days. I hope I did not give them an impression that I was trying to change them. Thanks to a senior member here, I am aware that we should never try to change them, but just to learn how to like their way. Being unsatisfied at DB paradiso, I continued to Tawan bar though I knew that it does not cater to my taste. the bar was almost empty when I got there.. only a few customers inside the club watching some guys on the stage - who were much bigger to my taste and more mature than I would have liked. One guy who appeared to be the smallest among his colleagues was trying to make a constant eye contact with me while he was on the stage, then came to my table, had some chatting, usual conversation such as where are you from? how long you stay in Bangkok etc? Throughout our chatting, he kept rubbing my thighs, and he was able to give me enough preparation for my last encounter before I concluded this trip. We left the bar after I paid my bill (350 admission fee, 500 off fee) and a small tip to mamasan, to have a quick and last minute pleasurable encounter before I happily concluded my second trip.
  22. 7 points
    Finishing this report. Sunday morning (exactly one week ago) we took our daughter to Emporium mall in Sukhumvit. Yet another BKK impressive mall. We went there by recommendation of our nanny that mentioned a nice play space for kids. I must admit that BKK's fancy play spaces for kids are really impressive and professional and I'd wish we had places like this at home. They even measured her temperature before allowing her inside which is great in my opinion. We had our family fun there and returned in time for her nap. Sunday afternoon in BKK means it's Babylon time. Arrived at Babylon at about 4PM. I think the best time to come is at about 6PM on Sundays but we were limited by nap times. I think Babylon never failed me. Nor did it this visit. I saw a recent discussion regarding dark rooms. I have really shitty night vision. My strategy is to wait outside the steam/dark room and go after someone I already checked out. My first prey was a British guy which we had sex in the Jacuzzy and later on in a cabin. Afterwards it was a young Japanese guy which we played in the steam and later on a cabin. Both were really my type and I was very happy, and satisfied. My partner also seemed to have fun but also a little angry at me for letting him wait for long time while I have fun and he already wanted to go. This is usually what happens when we go together to a sauna – I want to stay for way longer than the time he wants to stay. I really lose sense of time at those places. And to be honest, I knew already he is somewhere looking for me and wanted to leave but I had too much fun so I preferred my needs over his. Yes, I can be a selfish bitch sometimes, especially when it comes to men Haha. I apologized, and we carried on. From there we went back to the room and took our daughter to have dinner at Unicorn Café. It's a tacky funny pink experience in which you can rent unicorn onesies, have unicorn colored food etc. After that we put her to sleep and went out for our final night in town. Arrived at Tawan at about 1030 PM. House is half full but front row is empty. I am not sure why people hesitated sitting that so close to stage but we didn't mind and sat front row. On stage is a super lean and muscular bodybuilder which is for sure a current super star there. I remember he had a two digit number almost surly starting with 3. That guy was the hottest guy I ever saw in Tawan and although he is probably not so cooperative in bed, I would definitely off him if I was alone. He was not offed. Alongside him is an old friend, number 48, boonthone which I offed several years ago. Still ripped and impressive and he was offed quite early. Show was nice, as I remembered it and we both enjoyed it. One guy behind us was caught filming, so there was quite a scene there with his phone and the manger. After the show ended we went again to gay Sunday night at Maggie Choo's with the same enjoyable experience as a week before. From there we went to the room and started Grinding. I did use Grindr a lot this visit mainly for making connections with hot locals for the next time I am there alone and logistics will be way easier. A couple living near our hotel invited us. It was our last night in town and although we wanted to sleep early the night before our flight, we decided to pay them a quick visit. We arrive at a luxurious tall building and met an expat couple living in BKK. The thing that they failed to mention upon inviting us is that they were high. I don't mind having sex with people using drugs as long as they are cognitively preserved in a way that I can feel their presence. In this case they were high on Ice which made me want to leave the minute I understood that. But I guess I was horny enough to stay, and in contrary to my expectations that encounter was fun although it ended a lot later than I wanted. Retuned to sleep at 4AM. Woke up at 9AM. As I promised my partner I'll make it up for letting him wait for me in Babylon, I took our daughter to a play space with the nanny and let him sleep and pack. Returned in time for her early nap. We had 2 hours before our late checkout and I wanted my last massage. Arrived at prince Monday 2PM. It's a little too early and when we left there were more masseurs working but we couldn't come later so we had to work with the guys already working. The handsome fit guy that I chose wanted to keep his towel on him during the massage part, he said he is shy. I found it weird but remembered by BKK rule: Don't try and change the Thai people but try and adjust to them. This rule always saves me anger and disappointment in Thailand. I told that rule to my partner several days ago when he asked for special requests in his coffee order. He of course got a shitty coffee. Remembering that, I tried to enjoy my last massage and while the massage part was rather weird, the fun part was fine and in general this was probably my least enjoyable experience in Prince but still an OK one. For my partner this was his best experience out of his three massages this trip. That's about it. Went back, woke our child up, said goodbye to the nanny and tipped her 2000 THB for her good work. Flight went great with our daughter sleeping on me 9 out of 11 hours and me sleeping about 5 hours which is more than I expected. Even succeeded during her sleep to watch GOT S08E03 which aired several hours before our plane took off. This trip was yet another great trip to my favorite city in the world that never disappoints me. Although the nature of this trip did not allow me to fully enjoy what the city has to offer, I was very satisfied and actually surprised that I did succeed on pulling of my plans for fun in this trip. Also, I did enjoy spending the time with my family and showing my husband what BKK is all about. Seeing BKK through my daughter's eyes was also a unique experience. Until next time, Cheers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYnN_fP59C0 Offer_Nissim_-_Set_My_Mind_Free_Full-HD.mp4
  23. 7 points
    DivineMadman

    Introduction

    Just to be clear - at Arena the minimum tip includes just what they say: massage with masseur naked, HJ & showering together; however, the masseurs there are available for more, you just have to agree to pay them more. For full services (sucking/fucking) the cost ends up being roughly the same as any of the other big shops. It's like a no-frill airline. If you want more pay. For me, if I'm tired, bored, whatever - sometimes a simple HJ is the perfect end to the massage. Other times, and depending on the guy involved, of course more acrobatic activities are involved. Sometimes at a place like Prime where the normal rule is no hanky-panky so I'm not really expecting anything anyway, if the masseur says he wants to give me a HJ, I'll even politely decline. (!). It's just how I feel and what I'm looking for from each experience.
  24. 7 points
    reader

    Introduction

    I understand that everybody enjoys getting a bargain but somehow I don't quite equate getting a massage with going to Walmart. Paying a guy 1k to 1.5k to toil over your body for 60-90 minutes and then pleasuring you with a happy ending doesn't seem outrageous. And I can appreciate that some punters prefer the apps to a gay--or non-gay--massage shop. But among the benefits I find of using a shop are the opportunity to see what's available in person and not bringing a stranger into my hotel or apartment. In any case, I can't see myself entering a shop and saying, "I'll give you exactly 840 baht for a handjob and not a satang more."
  25. 7 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    So, I went to Arena massage shop this afternoon.. now I know why this place is highly recommended.. I got there around 2:30 pm.. since I needed help with directions, I had to call their shop and mamasan was already expecting me when I got there. once I entered the room (should we call it lobby or what?), all the guys immediately stood up and formed a reverse U shape, all facing towards me.. being quite nervous, I just asked mamasan to let me use the restroom, not because I needed to use its primary purpose, but to take some time to compose myself.. after taking a few deep breaths and wiping off all the sweats on my forehead, I went back to the lobby.. the guys were standing there, all trying to make eye contacts with me, smiling at me.. there were approximately 20-25 guys in total, a few of whom were really big muscular guys.. the average age appeared to be much older than that of Ganymede, and a bit older than my hero and Prince, I guess. not knowing whom to choose, I just let my innate preferences do its job.. among more muscular guys, my finger was pointing at the smallest boy with a toned body and baby face.. I chose a 90 minutes oil course, 800 baht and minimum tip of 1000. the guy led me to the room upstairs... since everyone has been already aware of its appearance and level of cleanliness, I am not going to repeat it.. an attached small shower booth inside, just next to the table.. the table could be quite short for tall guys... Massage was pretty good to my surprise, started with sensual, with nice strokes at times, then became more erotic.. the whole session took exactly 90 minutes and I was happy at the end.. I gave the tip of 1000 baht plus 400 extra to the boy inside the room .. his name is Teep, he said he's from Issan. I would strongly recommend him..
  26. 7 points
    The demise of Twilight was indeed the end of an era but the makeover of Patpong 2 is the beginning of a new one. What has taken place in less than few months is remarkable by any measure. From Surawong to Foodland, there seems to be something for everyone. And if you can't find it there, you surely will at Moonlight or Soi 4. Or at the dozens of massage shops within 10 minutes walking distance. My next trip can't some soon enough. A friend sent me this photo (looking toward Silom). The signs say it all.
  27. 7 points
    spoon

    Jupiter 2018 is open!

    I certainly thought off fee is the bar cut from having taking the boy for services. If no services delivered, id be expecting a refund. The boy could say in the bar that he is not well to be off but he didnt. Given that he is only on the way to the hotel, he probably only away from bar less than 10min. Eitherway, its not good for the bar nor for the customer when boy behave like this, and i dont see why customer has to take the hit when the service povided by the bar, aka, the boy, decided to cancel it. In ideal world, its the boy who should be taking the hit, but hey, TIT. My friend decided to vote with his feet and money instead and i dont blame him.
  28. 6 points
    DivineMadman

    May 2019 Trip Report

    What a great report, as always. In case some readers do not know, here is a picture of your mamasan/love interest Lucy. She's one of the mamasans that is pretty much guaranteed to kill my interest in anything other than running away as fast and as far as possible, but you are a far more kind and gentle soul than I. Up to you if you might think the 300 is her long-term off-rate.
  29. 6 points
    londonboy

    Trip report May 2019

    Day 3 Another late start after the night before. Late breakfast and then some time relaxing at the pool. Mid-afternoon, decide to head out for a massage. After the disappointment at 'Magic Touch' the previous day, decide to go to MyHero. It's further to travel and more expensive, but a place where I have always received consistently good service in the past and where the choice of boys is generally more to my taste. Free travel on the skytrain due to the coronation celebrations this weekend is an unexpected bonus. Arrive at MyHero around 4pm. About 20 guys to choose from. Immediately focus on a lean but muscular guy, one of the few to take his shirt off to reveal a great torso, wide shoulders, slim waist and muscular 6 pack. My choice is confirmed when mamasam includes him in the group of guys when I enquire 'who is gay/does everything?' Masseur is called Win - suffice to say it is a great session - scrub, oil massage and special service. Restores my faith in massage services after the previous days disappointment. Leave feeling rejuvenated and satisfied. Rest up back at hotel for a while and then head out to dinner - a local thai restaurant for a good chicken green curry. Its getting a bit late now - around midnight - but decide to pop into Moonlight for a beer. There is a special boy here who I have linked up with on previous visits and I'm curious to know if he is still around. Fixed fee of 450 bht to enter - for show and one drink. The place is busy as there is a birthday celebration for the owner/manager taking place. I go upstairs to find a seat and watch the final parts of the second show. As the show ends and the boys reappear on stage, it is clear that many have already been offed and few remain to choose from. No sign of my special one. I decided to head back to hotel alone to sleep but resolve to return earlier tomorrow as the choice of boys at Moonlight is usually to my taste. Day 4 to follow .............
  30. 6 points
    vinapu

    Introduction

    I do since asianstudent said clearly that boy if question was cutest guy he saw that trip. Nothing wrong with rewarding a winner
  31. 6 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    This afternoon, I went to Prince massage as per recommendations by some members here.. it was my third massage shop experience. the first one was my Hero and second Ganymede. for the record, I also had a few outcall massage sessions from other places too such as Dm Spa and Sanctuary spa.. I don't have much experience to compare, but I was impressed by the size of Prince massage .. the premise looked nice and clean.. it was about 3:30 pm when I got there, quite a few customers in the lobby, all being Asian.. I thought it is an exclusive man to man massage spa, but why i saw a couple female asian guests too??? A cute mamasan showed me their menu.. when I asked about the boy whose pictures were sent to me through their Line just a few minutes prior to my arrival, mamasan said he just went into the room with a customer for an hour session. he said I could wait, I would choose 90 minutes oil (1800 baht for a room with a private bathroom attached), and minimum tip for the mentioned course would be 1500 baht. so I decided to wait for the boy for the above course.. I went to use their restroom and when I came back to the lobby, a waiter served me a glass of thai ice tea (?). I was sitting in their lobby, and after a few minutes, a different mamasan who just arrived, came to me and asked me if I was waiting for someone. when I mentioned my agreed plan to him, he said "for 6 o'clock?". I replied, "no, once the boy comes out, now". he nodded his head, and left me alone.. A few minutes later, the first mamasan came back to me, and said there were some other customers waiting for the boy ahead of me. there you go again! maybe I didn't understand him accurately, but it was something like "no good for the boy. many customers waiting now". I showed him the messages just exchanged between their line account and mine while I was on my way on a grab, with the expectation for a better understanding of what just happened after that second mamasan arrived. he said something, but I gave up trying to get a reasonable explanation. so I tried to look for a plan B. there were a few other good looking muscular boys stand by behind the glass, but most of them were not interesting to me.. so i inquired mamasan about possibility of having the boy for an outcall session .. he said it would be 1000 baht to the shop and 2500 baht as a minimum tip to the boy. I agreed, he gave me his line account and he said he would ask the boy and get back to me.. I gave him a small tip and left the place. Let's wait and see if it would really happen. but I have been prepared enough, so there will be no frustration or surprise anymore.. now I think I understand what it meant by "this is Thailand".
  32. 6 points
    spoon

    Travelling with gogoboy

    Quick summary of how it went. He was with me 4 days 3 night, 2 night in a nice hotel ive been meaning to try, an hour from city near the beach. I did splurge on the hotel a bit, and he and I really enjoyed the hotel a lot. Whats not to like, private pool (yup we had fun in it), sea view, private steam room (and in here too lol). I find that i actually prefer morning sex to night sex, as after dinner, we are pretty much spent and tired from day sight seeing and just want to have a nice sleeping in. Plus waking him up with carressing his body, and cuddling while we both still a bit sleepy and lazy is one of the best moments ive had with him lol. The last night we are back in the city, where we had massage (my idea), nice japanese dinner (i asked him what kind of food, he said japanese), movie (he already watched it but wouldnt mind watching again with me), and of course more morning fun the next day. What i appreciate is we never discuss his tip until the very end of the trip, before i take him to premium outlet near the airport for lunch and a bit of shopping (my idea) before sending him off. When i gave him his tip, he asked how much is this in baht, so i show him the exchange, and told him dont change at the airport here, but change at thailand super rich for better rate. He said thank you, got a nice hug and peck on lips hehe, and he told me to find him when im in bkk. It all went great, better than i imagine and he is very accomodating with me and my clinginess in the room. Some of the interesting stuff we talked about were also the topic in one of the thread here about how boys had been getting ridiculously high tips/gift from rich customers. Some guys he told me got car, even apartment from their customer/sponsor who wants them to stop working at bar. He showed me few of his lucky friends who stopped working already once they got the lottery.
  33. 6 points
    paulsf

    Dreamboy Paradiso

    I’m the other way around. I think to much planning and overthinking gets in the way of a fun evening. So many times you think all day of the guy you will off, only to find he isn’t working tonight. I’ll go out tonight and see what’s going on in FreshBoys, if nothing go over to LuckyBoys. Many times you plan on a guy then get inside bar and see a hotter guy. Nothing wrong with a little game plan, but don’t over think your evening. Your here to have fun, leave your day planner back in your office.
  34. 6 points
    I hate (sort of) being a broken record, but don't forget "Chill Out Boy" on Patpong 1. It's been open a few months now. Patpong 1 won't have the fun views of any of the Soi T places, but Chill Out is pretty nice and gay. give it some time and support and who knows? Chill Out
  35. 6 points
    DivineMadman

    Introduction

    It sounds like your trip is off to a good start. Continue to have fun and thank you for sharing your experience. I do hope forum members' views on prices don't become a shadow/unintended travel companions for you. Have fun. It's even possible to write reports without detailing every cost. But of course that's up to you. Outcalls from shops are certainly more expensive, but also more convenient, and at least the price includes tip. 3,500-4,000 isn't surprising at all for one of the places far out from Silom. Personally. I'm a bit surprised Sanctuary Spa even did an outcall. I doubt they do many and the shop probably just quoted as big a number as he could think of. Your money. Spend it as you wish. Some people spend as much on drinks or guys from Moonlight or Jupiter, and that's ok. If your masseur from DM Spa gave you his Line ID then feel free to contact him directly. Many of the guys there work at other shops as well, so it's not like their "exclusive." I wouldn't worry about it.
  36. 6 points
    Will7272

    April trip report

    Last night I ended up at Dreamboy Paradiso. I was walking past on my way to Jupiter and there was a group of boys outside that made me stop and go inside. Hot boys ! The place is small with tables down each side and a central walkway to the stage. About 8 guys onstage, topless and with jeans on. But no twinks here, well defined and muscular guys. I sat right at the back near the door to get a view over the entire place. About 10:30 there was three separate drag shows. The place was half full and most like me were disinterested in these lip syncing ladies. But within 20 minutes or so they were off stage. Then the boys were out. Show was ok. The usual big cock show, dancing etc. then boys out again for a parade. It was better than expected and in some ways I like the small venue as it feels more intimate and you can see all that goes on. Some familiar faces on stage including on guy from Tawan. Might just pop back tonight.
  37. 5 points
    ggobkk

    May 2019 Trip Report

    Vacation has kicked in as the jet lag lessens. My phone has messages from Yoyo and Hab. Try to plan a day as there is nothing on my schedule and figure out that’s not a bad thing. Heat is still oppressive but with my new wide brimmed hat, I can venture out - and since google informed me that Tony Leather moved just as the other denizens of Twilight did and how to find - I have a morning goal. Tony Leather was the remaining Leather work store on Surawong. When I first returned to Bangkok there were a few leather stores where one could buy shoes, belts, jackets off the rack or have them made to order. Over time, all but Tony closed. The Indian restaurant near Siam Heritage hotel was one leather location closed three years back. Anyway, with google map in hand I cross Surawong, turn left and 300 steps on I am there. Jack , the owner, tells me they only had short notice that the lease wouldn’t renew. This new location was once the 88 Restaurant, I’m here to have a light weight leather jacket made up. He shows me some samples, none of which is what I’m imagining. I promise to come back on Wednesday to see some more samples. We talk price, we bargain, we are almost in agreement. See what happens on Wednesday. (Even at Jack’s first price, the jacket would cost less than half a non custom made jacket would at home). Sorry, if this sounds like a commercial. I like the shop and have at least a five year relationship and many shoes and belts to attest to it. Took the day as it came, some street food for lunch, set up with a friend an outing to the National Museum for Thursday and the Bangkok Silent Film Festival for Friday. Around 7pm, I head to Telephone for dinner and to watch the boys come to work at Jupiter. It’s too early, visit Banana Bar, talk to a Nikrat masseur I know who tells me business is slow...everyone always tells me that...but it might be true as there are available seats everywhere. Decide, that since I’ve checked out most of the action at the relocations, tonight it will be Jupiter or Moonlight. It’s only 9:30ish, so I don’t want to hang out in Jupiter until 10:30, I’ll go to Moonlight. Encounter update #2. The first update which I didn’t number was the Hot Male mamasan now mamsaning at Superboyz. This new encounter is my running into the Hot Male grabber/tout with the bandana who was often called out in reports. Anyway, he’s touting for Moonlight which makes sense as the owner is the same guy as Hot Male’s owner. He chats me up, tells me the show doesn’t start until 10:30....so I go to Starbucks for an ice tea, some internet, and to use the restroom. Discovered lots of antique and jewelers shops in the Burger King/ Starbucks Mall. OK, walk back and let the tout take me to Moonlight. He gets points...customer miles(?). It’s now about10:15. Place is jammed, really jammed, only seats open is the row of stools at the foot of the stage and some spaces near the shower which is to he left of the central seating area. That’s where I’m taken. Not a bad seat as I’m very close to a corner of the stage where all of the boys and “mega stars” move during their on stage rotation. Within a few minutes, the other three seats are taken. One gut can only see the stage by looking through the glass wall of the shower(!). I order my paid with entrance fee drink. There are several bottle tables in play, and two seats in the first row closest to the stage off the main passageway have an assigned waiter. These stools will be filled by two Japanese guys who will finish their bottle during the show. A neighbor of theirs has a line up of shots at his seat. Group of women behind me have waiter service with some of the rotation boys already with them, another table of women near the bar. As far as I can tell, I am the only farang (see my definition in earlier report). Maybe 10% of customers are women. One of the mamasans who remembers me from past visits (or at least tells me that and mamasans don’t lie), well, he tells me they have many many guests from China and Taiwan. Ugly American that I am, I didn’t perceive that it’s not always the Chinese that are flooding the area with visitors, it might be the Taiwanese I watch the rotation. First thing I notice, is many of the boys are shirtless. This is an improvement over my visit in November where only one or two were shirtless. Guys are a mix, young, mature, good bodies, some very good bodies. Many are meeting my offable standards. #5 is a stand out, shirtless, with a hard gymnast’s body, but no smile. Boys exit the stage and come by where I’m sitting until the have to move them to wedge in more customers. One of the young boys is a friend of the guy who has the see the stage through the shower seat. Quite a few of the guys join the women sitting behind me who are running an open bar. Show starts. Now, I may have been the first forum member to review Moonlight when it took over the old Jupiter space. The waiters were still wearing Jupiter polo shirts. I mention this to note how much everything has improved. Yes, it’s 500 baht which is an increase over two years. The show is excellent, no wasted time, no lady nobody’s singers. Opens number solid with all of the stars moving and celebrating themselves as each, in tun, mounts some steps to be at the top on the choreography. Here are Tae, Lucky, Turn, Smart, and the ever lusted after Babe. They will return two more times, once the always video entry down the stairs which occurs at the exact mid point of the show and one more energetic dance number. Babe, probably due to his height, is the best dancer. The other numbers come quickly, change over to next scene is quick., I’m living in fear of a lady boy number, remembering when there was a staircase to the stage and always a diva singing. Not tonight...guess they have all moved to DB Paradiso. One downer is that none of the “stars” is in the Raining Men number. At some point during the show the row of stools directly in front of the stage is filled by a group, not a tour, but men and women who arrived together.. During one of the musical numbers, one of the rotation boys who is in it is given a baht necklace by the guy with the row of shots set up. The dancer also takes a shot along with the necklace. Shower closes with the shower scene. Only three guys are closer to the shower action than I am. Then it’s time for the finale. Several red notes and shots are passed to different boys during the finale when all of the dancers, save the stars, come on stage before the new rotation starts at 11:30. Place empties out as the rotation begins. To my surprise, there are still more than 20 guys in the rotation and all have numbers. I find i have some Jimmy Carter’ lust in my heart for #5 (google ther reference). My aging body is still worn out from Hab and Yoyo, and I hadn’t planned on an off...so I decided to give him some red notes and come back another night. My Mamasan “friend” signals for him to come over to me, I give him the notes, and the smile - which he never had on stage - was wide and engaging. You can write the scrip...ten minutes later, we were out the door, escorted by the bandana man, who I think was singing my praises. We get to the Tarntawan and OMG he doesn’t have his passport! A rerun of last night...he tells the desk his situation, they won’t budge. I’m thinking of an improper bride. But, my off, whose name is “Shy” says if ok with me, he lives nearby and will go get his passport. Everyone is happy... WIthin ten minutes he’s at the door, he must have moved quickly as he has a strong masculine sweat smell. Once he is out of his clothes, what I see is as close to perfection (for me) as I can conceive. The rest of the night goes very very well. This is one of those rare offs of whom I take a photo. We exchange Line info. Then we shower together and then work up another sweat smelll. I am a happy and lucky man. Today’s rant...the auto correct cannot decide if mamasan is capitalized or not. So Iet it be erratic. Today’s rave - thanks for the kind works and PMs. Auto correct changed “shower” to whore. I corrected the autocorrect. One thing with this heat wave is that I have time to keep up my journal...usually, it waits until there is a one break or I am home. This is close to real time reporting....don’t hold me to it...tomorrow is a return to Jupiter.
  38. 5 points
    forky123

    Pattaya May/June

    I’m not going to do a diary type thing as I tend to have chill days where I like to do pretty much nothing. It’s a holiday after all and I need the downtime from work. Also, I very rarely go to the bars so my focus this holiday will likely mainly be on Massage places. If those have no interest for you, move on and read some of the other fine threads here. Helios I hadn’t been here since it was Blue House massage but, having read somewhere that it was the only boy massage place that does a soapy massage, thought I’d give it a whirl. The outside now really doesn’t seem inviting. I guess I’m inconsistent because I also hate being grabbed by the arm somewhere as I walk past, but for me having a few boys outside smiling is welcoming. I can’t say I’ve ever had a bad massage at Blue House, but then many of my visits were to see Ken who was very good. On entering, the boys gathered. There were only 5 of them and a mix, a couple were youngish (probably very early 20’s), the others late. 20’s or likely older (it’s so hard to guess age sometimes). Last holiday I spent going for the cutest guys and had very mixed results, this time I went back to the adage ‘go for the biggest smile’. One of the early 20’s guys was smiling really broadly, the others either half-hearted smiles or none at all. Though the smiling boy was cute, with a toned swimmers body, he was more tattooed than I might usually choose. He was the one I chose though and an hours ‘foam massage’ as they call it rather than soapy. He left me to grab an initial shower while he collected the bits. There was a fairly large waterproof mattress on the floor, otherwise the room was like a large shower room. With massage places, I rarely ask in advance what someone will “do”. I really like the not knowing how far someone will go. Sometimes that leads to disappointment, other times to unexpected good times. We were both naked from the start which is always a good start but not always indicative of how things will end. Having never had a soapy massage before, i wasn’t sure what to expect from the massage itself. It’s obvious that there will be lots of body to body, what is probably intuitive but I wasn’t 100% sure on was how firm or otherwise the massage would be. The answer was that it was mostly sensual body to body massage and little firm massage techniques. He started with a back massage before turning to bum and legs. How a masseur treats your backside is always a good indication to me of how far they will go and what they are up for. If they give your crack a wide birth, chances are anything later will be perfunctory at best. This guy very early ran his fingers deep down the crack of my ass paying close attention to my asshole and on to the base of my dick. Though he didn’t linger too long it was a good sign. The massage progressed with a lot of mutual contact and a lot of feeling up. He was hard as a rock in not too much time and took great delight in massaging my ass crack with his dick. Once he turned me over there really wasn’t much massage, it was almost entirely frontage. He still had a smile on his face and it wasn’t too long before he got a condom and lube out. I do wish he’d used more of the lube as he was a very aggressive top in multiple positions but I wasn’t going to stop him once he got started as it was so fucking good. After about 15 minutes he came and lay on top of me finishing me off. Overall, I could take or leave a “soapy massage” but if the sex in it is always that good then it’s well worth the time. 1 hour foam massage was 600b. Minimum tip was 1000b but I gave him 1500b. Well worth it.
  39. 5 points
    llz

    Bangkok, Night I

    Nostalgia anyone ? (TMOT th edition, 1997) (Galaxy bar n° 17 in the down right corner of the main map) (sorry, cannot figure how to lay out pictures in a better way) TMOT was wrong with their directions : going west on Surawong, you would have to turn left (and not right) in the subsoi
  40. 5 points
    reader

    Introduction

    Here's one way to put this in context. Many of the staff who work the venues around Silom have their evening meals delivered by vendors who charge about 40 baht. So if you give someone a 20 baht note, it's half the cost of their dinner. If a guy chooses to turn up his nose at this, there are others who won't. That's what separates us from the animals: we take money. As you've learned, having a select stable of regulars is good practice. You know you're already comfortable with each other and and the quality of the experience is predictable. Glad that served you well as your trip draws to a close. Agree that Foodland is a fine choice to get meals to go at a reasonable price that you and your guest will be happy with. And it's a 24/7 operation. As I mentioned in another thread, having you and Gold Member posting great trip reports simultaneously has been a treat. Your keen sense of what engages the reader leaves us always looking forward to more. Thanks for the effort.
  41. 5 points
    DivineMadman

    Introduction

    Sorry for the frustration. Most (probably 80%?) of the guys at Prince probably identify as "straight." So women customers wouldn't surprise me. I used to be a big and vocal fan of Prince from shortly after it opened. (I think the shop that used be there was named GQ???). Over the past few years I think the management side of things there has declined. It's just a poorly run operation. I went there in-person once and booked someone for the next day, but when I got there the guy was with another customer. I think there are lots of examples of Prince not honoring "bookings." Also I think the "management doesn't really give a damn" attitude lets the masseurs be a little less diligent and maybe play more games with the getting the customer out the door as fast as possible so they can get back into the rotation for the next customer. Having said that there are some great guys at Prince. Up to you. But I've stopped going there. Tipping a manager under the circumstances you described is generous in the extreme. Perhaps that is the only way to get good service at Prince. Loving your reports, BTW
  42. 5 points
    ggobkk

    Introduction

    In my opinion, you were short changed on time to consider an off at Lucky Boys. Even if the mamasan had transferred the boy to you from another table. The mamasan would not have done that if a commitment had already been made by anyone at the other table. I share Vinapu's option of signaling the boy myself. They have their eyes on the room and will quickly move to your side. Now, my comments are based on multiple experiences up to last November. Things may have changed since then...Moonlight is a bit more restrictive as they have their stars with higher priced options and the other boys off the stageo sit off to the side, At Twilight's HotMale, where I was (am?) friendly with two of the mamasans, I've locked onto a boy who was sitting with someone, the mamasans told me to wait and see if my choice was offed. If he wasn't then he'd be brought over. In Jupiter, I've both signaled a boy from the stage and asked a mamasan to laser light another. In many years of going to the clubs, I've never been given a time limit to decide. Note for historical record - at HotMale once I liked a boy but he was offed by the guy he was with...later, after we'd met, I knew the guy was offed by PaulSF...
  43. 5 points
    flarrexx

    Dreamboy Paradiso

    You totally should check out Lucky Boys.. Was there last week [it's the only bar I'm allowed to go to], and as asnstudent reported, it's big and spacious, with a good number of boys. The boys are mostly twinks, but alot of them have a good mix of boyishness and muscle.
  44. 5 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    After being busy with Mr. Model from moonlight on Saturday night, I went to Fresh Boys 2 on Sunday night.. Then to Lucky boys on Monday and Tuesday, two nights in a row.. I was thinking of writing a more descriptive review on Lucky Boys, but the site seemed to be down, so I was not able to blog on Monday --> Tuesday.. I just wrote a quick review on it on a different thread. Being a big fan of twinks with toned bodies, Lucky Boys kept me busy for the last two nights. I strongly recommend #60 of Lucky Boys if you are into small twinks with baby face and toned body.... I need to take it easy today since a much waited appointment with another Mr. Model is coming up tonight. I will keep you all posted... On a different note, BKK heat is not compatible with life... so I don't have plan to fix my circadian rhythm.. sleeping in in the afternoons and up all night long.
  45. 5 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    A quick learner, I just used one of the techniques I learned here towards that mamasan at Fresh Boys 2 tonight. She kept asking me "which number?", I said "you're the best! and I just want you." Then she left me alone.
  46. 5 points
    sometimes it goes to extreme, I recall night at Tawan , bar packed for the show with 1-2 chairs left and stampede out after last accords of music me alone with all that big men , not that I complain
  47. 5 points
    I agree! And, if I had been alone, I would have been lured in. But, then I would have missed a sexy lad from LuckyBoys. So, I am glad we stuck to the schedule. I did like the vibe of the new Soi and look forward to seeing other areas in the future. I was also pleasantly surprised at how nice the new places were. The owners have put time, money and thought behind the new places. (except the old mamasans who have the waiters ask you for a drink) I guess some things never change.
  48. 5 points
    asnstudent

    Introduction

    Thank you everyone.. without your guidance and info I obtained here, I would have never learned the new tricks.. as a late bloomer with this biggest fear of missing out (as in spoon's words), I am kinda restless and reckless. It was very hot here today.. so when I got back to my room from lunch outside, it was around noon and I was drenched in sweat. I tried to take a quick nap but the renovation work here at Raya made it completely impossible... so I got up and met with one of my ex classmates who is now working here in BKK for dinner.. While I was thinking to avoid Saturday night crowds at the clubs, mamasan from Moonlight lined me, and then called me.. so I decided to go there again.. it was already 11:45 pm by the time I got there.. there were not many boys left.. seems like many of them have already been offed. Similarly, there were only a few customers there. I was thinking to watch their midnight show, but I blamed it to that very persistent Mamasan, and after saying no to many of her suggestions, I decided to off one of their models while awaiting for my appointment with BB .. (as a side note, BB was off today).. after I paid the model's off fee to the club, I was thinking to wait for him till he finished the show, but they said if the model has a customer, he is exempted from the show.. so we left right after I paid the bill. he as a straight guy couldn't do much in the bed, but he was super nice and very friendly.. put up a private shower show for me, asked me if I wanted to take shower together.. I declined since I just finished my longgg shower just a few minutes prior.. my experience with moonlight's second model was way far better than the first one.. he left with a smile (or at least that's what I thought) and I remained with a smile in my room.. it's already 3:30 am here now.. id better be in the lala land already.
  49. 5 points
    spoon

    Travelling with gogoboy

    Just want to update on my quest about travelling with this guy. We still keep in touch from time to time. It has always been brief, limited to saying hi and wishes on pubmic holiday. The most recent one was on early april. My friends who came to malaysia for a visit had just gone back, and as i was going through IG, he updated his ig (which is rare, the last post was january) and got me thinking of him again lol so i initiate the chat, without any hope of a reply since my last text was january as well. Anyway, he replied my text and i asked how are you, and he said good, and i said i miss u, wish i can bring u here to my place. He reconfirm my country and i said yes and i express i want to take holiday beforr fasting month. He said its songkran in thailand and i asked if he goes back home, he said maybe. I took that as an opening, so i ask if he wants to come here, and said ill pay (of course i will). He ask go Malaysia? I said yeah. And he said "just having free time can go." And i said let me know when you are free. And he said ok. Few days have passed, and as i read his reply again, i noticed i couldve misunderstand him. Did he meant to say he is just now havung free time and can go, or did he meant what i think he meant before, he need to find when he has free time and he will let me know. Anyway, i dont want to push too much, so i just sent a Happy songkran text on songkran. And he says thankyou with wai. Then another text a week later, just asking if he go and have water fight in silom during songkran or not (i had just watched bangkok love stories songkran episode) and he said nope, he just stay in room. And guess what. Earlier this week, he texted me, asking me if im working and i said yes, and asked if he is also working, he said yes. I finally ask again when he is free to travel. And he said next week he can travel!! I propose a date, and asked how long he can come, and bought his ticket! Itll be a first time ill be "travelling with gogoboy"! Well technically, he is travelling, not me. And technically, he no longer works as gogo boy lol but ill take this as a win haha. Cant wait until the day come. Ive reread both divinemadmen and vinapu advise here. Ive yet to discuss money with the boy though, but he told me before when he come here and how much the previous customer pay him, which i find reasonable, so thatll be my benchmark hehe.
  50. 4 points
    vinapu

    Introduction

    yes but don't forget that whole thing left you upset and leaving bar empty handed, not much of marketing success here. If I like a boy I take pains of inviting him to sit with me myself. Don't need mamasan for that. Quite a few reports of bad behavior of mamasans recently , GoldMember just reported similar situation at Prince in another thread. On another hand if guy I fancy is sitting with somebody else my heart my bleed but I'd never try to pry him from his current company . For me it looks that being too friendly with mamasans causes more grief than gains although I never took part in wars with them, just ignore them politely, BBB, Arena and Screwboys being exceptions but even there I don't let those very friendly mamasans to go between me and my chosen specimen
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