Guest Paragon Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sure, it was just a novel, but its author probably never envisioned the NSA. The more we learn about them, the less I feel that America has a future as a free country. And now this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-surveillance-program-reaches-into-the-past-to-retrieve-replay-phone-calls/2014/03/18/226d2646-ade9-11e3-a49e-76adc9210f19_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lookin Posted March 19, 2014 Members Share Posted March 19, 2014 I wonder if Clapper still has that call I made to Domino's a few months back. I could swear they offered me a free order of breadsticks. wayout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted March 19, 2014 Members Share Posted March 19, 2014 The NSA is just one of the two prongs of this massive privacy violation attack. It gets more attention because it is supposed to be clandestine and does have potential dire political consequences. But then dire commercial consequences can affect personal lives as well as the public cultural structure. Think Google. 1984 may not be too far away <-- me, alarmist. They will come take me away... no doubt by a clandestine Google subsidiary shrouded in social media cloak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted March 19, 2014 Members Share Posted March 19, 2014 This broken record has been lamenting our loss of freedoms for many years and the only change is that it has gotten worse. Term limits and sunset laws will at least get a change of crooks periodically and require them to go on the public record when they lie and cheat. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihpguy Posted March 19, 2014 Members Share Posted March 19, 2014 So fucked-up unlucky to have to be reminded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paragon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Term limits and sunset laws serve to keep good people out of office- people with experience who have learned how to deal with the entrenched bureaucrats who really run things. Bureaucrats have lifetime jobs, politician's don't. That wouldn't be so bad if they were trustworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted March 21, 2014 Members Share Posted March 21, 2014 So we need term limits for bureaucrats, at least the management ones? Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paragon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Possibly. There is something about people with job security who get entrenched in a position and learn to pull the right levers that the politicians have no idea even exist. That's power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 lookin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paragon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 US tech companies are reportedly losing business, especially Microsoft, because of NSA spying, so they are relocating to foreign countries to assure thier customers that the NSA can't spy on them. This is as I understand the NY Times article liked below to be saying. But, hasn't the NSA demonstrated that national boundaries are no impediment to them? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/business/fallout-from-snowden-hurting-bottom-line-of-tech-companies.html?hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted March 21, 2014 Members Share Posted March 21, 2014 Doesn't the NSA claim they are only spying on foreigners? And, of course, any foreigner who talks to a US citizen. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paragon Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
