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Hi guys,

I'm thinking about returning to Bangkok after many years. Heartbroken that Babylon has closed. I spent many wonderful hours there over the years. The last time I was there, a hot Vietnamese guy flashed me several times while I was in the pool and he was sitting on a lounge. We had a great time in a cabin.

I know this site is mostly geared towards those who like to pay for sex, but I (maybe foolishly) long for the days when I could meet guys at a sauna and spend time with them without a financial incentive.

Are there any saunas that are anywhere near what Babylon used to be? Not only guys who are interested in farang, but also with restaurant, beautiful space, massage, etc.

I did do a search here but didn't find anything, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

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11 hours ago, MarcSingap said:

It is just a general trend in saunas. Young Asian are not into having sex with farangs for free... unless the farang is young and not fat.

One asian boy there told me last month at Krubb "why fat farangs come here ? They should go massage shop and pay for sex. Sauna is more for fun" (meanning free sex)

It's obviously changed a lot. In the earlier days of virtually all the saunas, farangs of almost any description were welcomed. Like the gogo bars where the Thais have now mostly disappeared, both on stage and in the audience, it's mostly the farangs who make up the clientele.

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Thanks guys for your responses. Sorry for the delay in responding - I don't come here often these days.

I'm not really interested in having sex with young Thai guys. One of the things I enjoyed about Babylon was being able to meet older Thai guys who were interested in hanging out outside of the sauna. I had a lot of great experiences and went places I never would have been able to go on my own. So any recommendations on places to meet older guys that are not bars? Do you think Krubb sauna is a place to possibly meet older Thai men?

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Like many of us oldies here I, too, harbor great memories of the Babylon I first encountered 21 years ago. Unfortunately, it gradually lost its allure as the younger local crowd moved on to other venues and farangs came to dominate. In its last 10 years the place became less well maintained and far less of a draw (for me, anyway).

But the massage business is roaring in Bangkok now. And for those who are comfortable doing business on the apps, you can still manage to find new experiences to justify a return trip.

 

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On 1/24/2023 at 11:55 AM, MarcSingap said:

One asian boy there told me last month at Krubb "why fat farangs come here ? They should go massage shop and pay for sex. Sauna is more for fun" (meanning free sex)

You know how much attention I would pay to that?  None.  Zero.  Nada.  He doesn't speak for anyone but himself.  Many Thais are attracted to us old, fat farang and more than just me can attest to it.  There is an interesting currently active topic on the Sawatdee board about just that.  See:  https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?23019-Non-commercial-is-it-possible

The Krubb web site is written entirely in English.  Who do you think that's for?  When was the last time you noticed a lot of young, fit, handsome farang in any of the gay saunas?

Instead of worrying about what one guy said, I would much rather go to the sauna and see for myself.  Maybe I'll get lucky and maybe not, but it would take more than just one visit to convince me it is always going to be "not".

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4 hours ago, Gaybutton said:

You know how much attention I would pay to that?  None.  Zero.  Nada.  He doesn't speak for anyone but himself.  Many Thais are attracted to us old, fat farang and more than just me can attest to it.  There is an interesting currently active topic on the Sawatdee board about just that.  See:  https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?23019-Non-commercial-is-it-possible

The Krubb web site is written entirely in English.  Who do you think that's for?  When was the last time you noticed a lot of young, fit, handsome farang in any of the gay saunas?

Instead of worrying about what one guy said, I would much rather go to the sauna and see for myself.  Maybe I'll get lucky and maybe not, but it would take more than just one visit to convince me it is always going to be "not".

I just related honestly what some boys told me. Nothing more. Krubb targets young farangs and especially the Koreans. Go see by yourself.

Of course go go !! enjoy !

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1 hour ago, reader said:

Here's the link to Krubb Bangkok Social Club and Sauna. If you explore the site you find numerous photos and a video but all of the men are Asian (most likely staff).

https://www.gaysaunabangkok.com/

Although the following video is aimed at a Chinese clientele, it features a guided tour of the interior.

i didn't want Gaybutton to loose his motivation... he will go and see by himself....

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9 hours ago, Gaybutton said:

When was the last time you noticed a lot of young, fit, handsome farang in any of the gay saunas?

This one, I think, was the main problem with the old Babylon. I know that sauna had a long history and went through several iterations but I only frequented it in its last 5-7 years of existence when I was a slim guy in my mid-to-late 20s. Yes, the facilities were good but the crowd much less so. I feel that once Babylon got to be known as the place to-go for old farangs, it's decline started. Old Western guys made up most of the customers and those few younger Thai twinks that went there were mostly after them (for one reason or another) than after a younger guy. At Babylon, I mostly hooked up with other Asian tourists visiting the place because of its reputation. I honestly preferred going to the Rama 9 saunas, like R3 and Underground, which even though geared more  towards a Thai-to-Thai type of action, had a  much younger local crowd who didn't mind messing around with farangs. The only time I enjoyed Babylon was during their Songran foam parties, but even then the  ones at R3 were better.

 

As for Krubb, i have been twice, in August and December. As I said in some other posts, there is definitely a big "sticky rice" vibe in the crowd, but Westerners are definitely welcomed, both young and old. You hear a lot of English around but it's usually spoken by other in-shape and young Asian tourists instead of older farangs (Koreans but also lots of Singaporeans, Taiwanese and honkongese). Maybe the owner of Krubb are not trying to be the next Babylon after all. I think they aim more to be the Soi13 or the Hutong of Bangkok. Places known for attracting a big crowd of young and in-shape local guys and a destination for visitors wanting to meet them.

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5 hours ago, MarcSingap said:

i didn't want Gaybutton to loose his motivation... he will go and see by himself....

Don't worry.  Next time I go to Bangkok and have time for a sauna, that is exactly what I'm going to do.  At my age and the way I look, if I get stares I'm expecting nothing more than their natural curiosity at spotting the bizarre.  If anything happens better than that, I'll be very pleasantly surprised.

Meanwhile, if some other customer, or even a staff member tries to tell me I shouldn't be there, they will very quickly be reminded that I have as much right to be there as they do and if to them I'm an eyesore and it really bothers him, let him be the one to go elsewhere.

I didn't always look the way I do now and there was a time when I too was young and attractive.  Those days are long gone - very long gone.  I wonder how they will react when they reach old age and start encountering people who no longer want to accept them.

I would go expecting nothing more than enjoying the sauna part of the sauna and a chance to feast my eyes on good looking boys.  If nothing more than that happens, Fine with me.  I'm not expecting anything more.

If I want sex, but nothing happens at this sauna I still have two options - go somewhere and pay for it or go back to my room and get it by self-service . . .

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1 hour ago, Gaybutton said:

I wonder how they will react when they reach old age and start encountering people who no longer want to accept them.

The question I ask my friends.....when you were in your younger years, how did you treat the older guys in your "fun zones" and how do expect them (todays younger people) to treat  you now 🤔 

I'm glad there are massage shops, saunas and go go bars for that reason.

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4 hours ago, Gaybutton said:

 

Meanwhile, if some other customer, or even a staff member tries to tell me I shouldn't be there, they will very quickly be reminded that I have as much right to be there as they do and if to them I'm an eyesore and it really bothers him, let him. . .

I can't believe that a staff would tell you anything that bad. The other customers won't tell you to have a look somewhere else even if they think so. This is the nice aspect of Thai and Asian culture: they are much more polite and respectful than the people in any of our western country.

You certainly can have fun watching group action. And maybe something can happen with you. Because another funny aspect of Thai culture is that they are always very curious about the unexpected 😁.

 

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44 minutes ago, reader said:

Good luck, GB. Look forward to your report.

Don't lose any sleep waiting for it.  I'm not going to Bangkok any time soon.  Even when I do go to Bangkok, I don't often have time to go to saunas.  The only plan I have for Bangkok is to go to the Chatuchak Market and most likely return to Pattaya the same day as soon as I find what I'm looking for - and that won't be until at least until March or April.

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