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Day 4 - The morning after After i sent my guy away at lobby, I went back to the reception to asked if there is any update about my phone. Sadly, the answer is still no update. I replied to them saying that I guess Ill need to shop for a new phone now, to which they awkwardly chuckles. Went back to my room, I recalled that I have my laptop with me, and perhaps I still have access to my whatapps. I recently use whatapps web to access certain file from my phone. So I switch on my laptop and checked if I can open my whatapps. And voila, it is still connected to my account! I immediately grab a pen and paper to jot down all the important phone numbers from my contact. I also texted my two malaysian friends telling them the whole ordeal. I also checked my email. And there i saw a reply from bolt customer service about the lost phone report sent by hotel receptionist. Its an email asking for me to give additional detail, my phone number where they can contact me, and consent to share it with the driver. This was apparently sent to me at 3.31 am and i replied with the hotel receptionist number and hotel name around 9.33 am. And I received a reply of acceptance 9.37 am. I am impressed with the speed of response by bolt customer service! After checking my email, whatapps and facebook on my laptop, i search on how i can open my line account on the laptop but this wasnt successful, not without my phone with me. Went for a nap a bit then was woken up by door bell and a knock on my door. I thought oh must be the house keeping. Went to the door to open it and its actually the bellboy, telling me that someone at the lobby asking for me, to return my phone. Im still half asleep but the news woke me up like ive been punched in the face. Still in disbelief, I told the bellboy thank you so much and I will be right down. Went down full with anticipation, and as I came out of the lift, I saw him the bolt driver from last night, and on his hand, my phone! It was turned off though, probably due to out of battery. I cant describe this feeling of relief, like all of the sudden, all my headaches are gone. I thank the driver and the hotel bellboy and believe it or not, had to convince the driver to take some cash from me as appreciation. He first refuse the cash, but when i told him it is to cover his gas and it is also from my heart, he reluctantly accept it. He then asked to take a picture with me, showing the phone, to report back to bolt. The receptionist working right now was already a new crew so Ill have to thank the night shift receptionist tonight. Back at the hotel, I immediately charge my phone and start to switch on my phone. Told my two malaysian friends that Ive gotten my phone back. Having my faith in humanity restored, i started browsing my line, replied a text from forum member, and started planing my next massage, this time with history massage. Been meaning to try this one guy but based on previous report, his tips is quite high, but recently, a friend told me that he has reduced his tips. Also texted a fellow forum member that might be in bkk. All booked, and back to having my nap. Woke up and went for my massage appointment at history, and met my KL friend there, he also booked another masseur there. My session went better than expected, massage was super sensual, my masseur is really good looking with greek god like body, and after was great as well. Tonight, a planned dinner with some forum veterans, 5 of us at 25 degrees. It was at first only a dinner for two, but I asked one of them when he is free to meet for dinner and he asked if i wanted to join tonight's dinner and i said yes, and asked if some other members can join as well, so in the end, its 5 of us tonight at 6.30pm Had a nice catching up and since its still early, I went to see forum member and watching some of the guys playing pool at bar downstairs of freshboy. We then went to jupiter for the night for their show. And of course, the highlight of the show is still the famous boom, but their overall shows also improves. Yes, they have decided to increase the entrance free by 100 baht. We chose to swallow it as my friend already have someone he wanted to off tonight and I already have a guy as well. In my mind, i couldve just reduced amount of guys ill tip tonight by 1 lol. A very productive night indeed, my friend booked a guy tonight, and tomorrow as well, which is his last day. I also prebooked a guy as well. Had supper at foodland, but before that, went to goodboy to say hi to a fellow forum member who has now confirmed with me that he is in bkk. Went back to our respective hotel by bolt. By now im a loyal bolt customer hehe. At the hotel, I told my guy to go to the lift first as i went to the reception to say my thanks to the receptionists. She asked if I already bought a new phone and I told her that no, i havent bought one yet.

I'm coming to this thread late, but what a tale! Indeed, very relieved for @spoon too that the phone came back. After a couple of near-misses regarding phones many years ago, I have determinedly made myself acquire some better habits. I choose trousers with pockets -- as many as possible -- and my habit now is that my phone is always in one particular pocket, unless I take it out to read/send messages. It goes back into the pocket immediately after. It's a front pocket, not a back pocket - which is possibly the worst place to put one's phone. Not only will the phone be easily lifted out by a thief, one needs to take it out of the back pocket each time one sits down... and leave it on a table, car seat or somewhere else. In Thailand, an additional problem is the power bank. I find that I need to have one with me when I am out and about for most of the day (and maybe into the evening). Fortunately, I tend to go about with a backpack, so there's space for that too. Another point brought up earlier in the thread is that of how others take notes for trip reports. In my case, I dictate into my voice recording app on my phone. I do this several times a day, e.g. when I am walking out of a massage shop; that way I make a record of prices, tips, names, even bits of conversation before I forget. The app generates a transcription, which I can, even days later, copy-and-paste to build a report. I realise however that dictating into a recording app is an acquired skill; many people, I notice, can't do it. The skill involves being able to dictate in complete sentences with clear diction, with content delivered in a coherent narrative order. That way, after downloading the transcript, one does not have to do much more than light editing. I credit my managerial training in my younger days for that skill, having had to dictate fairly long letters to my secretary. It may be a lost art, by now.

A Pattaya guy once said "too much" when I gave him his cash. Did I give him more than the going-rate? No. Or perhaps my performance was so earth-shatteringly good that he thought I deserved a free ride. No....that doesn't sound like me either. Most likely he was showing Buddhist compassion for an old guy who was obviously past his best. .

Magic touch were operational as of early December. Sabaidee operational in August. Blue who used to work at Sabaidee is now at SMS Sanctuary spa nearby.

It happens to me sometimes to miss one or two bars as well , usually on shorter trips , it's why I noted ' I try". Many members including you will knife me but bar I miss most often is Freshboys , lol ( 3 times in last 10 trips me thinks)

There is always lots of discussion around this and I am aware there are lot's over circumstantial experts on these forums. However, thought this was interesting insight. Had dinner with an old escort-friend who had some interesting insights on the local market. Now this guy is a pro - escorts full time and travels the world doing it. So that's not your average Grindr listing. But he shared a few pointers: - the expert guys here are all charging 200K COP per session. Full stop. They basically all know each other and when word gets around, they will confront anyone undercutting that rate. - with foreigners, they will start negotiations at 300-400K for a session (about $100USD currently). How do they know you are a foreigner? Why do you think they immediately ask for your name? So if you are confident with Spanish, you may want to try a fake name. - the going daily rate here is 1.2Millon COP (currently about $300USD) per day for these same guys. If you are planning for more that three days (a weekend) then you can negotiate. - any new boys on the scene that are getting a good reputation (good reviews from their clients) will be approached to step up to the new rate. Those that don't agree may find themselves with bad ratings. Think about that when you read those MIleroticos reviews, which virtually no actual clients post. - the Skokka boys -- the ones dipping their toes into the game -- are generally left alone. But those ads tend to be more transient in Colombia because there is minimal cost to run an ad. - Grindr is fair game, but they do watch that space for new faces. - the three main "modelling' companies for webcam boys all watch their performers closely for any signs of escorting on the side. It is explicit in their contracts that they should not engage in prostitution. Some of the top escorts in the city got their start there. Not to make it seem like this is all run by some dark cabal, but some interesting insights on the local scene for paid sex, and how the market produces new product, as lots move on to Europe to either escort or do porn or both. Witness Alejo Ospina, Randy Junior. or Santiago Rodriguez, to name a few. Open to a discussion as many of you will insist this is made up BS. Just sharing from a reliable source. PS - he also shared this with me (was a surprise) that many of the top-tier escorts will arrange sex with each other when they want to get off to avoid any hassle.

1. The gentleman's ad indicates that he is passing through the city. The rate of 400K COP is basically 100$ USD converted -- you can guess how he came up with that figure. So I suspect he would be open to negotiation -- given that he is priced out of the local market. I doubt he has any locals accepting that rate. 2. There are no shortage of male "massage" services in Medellin. Many offer "extras" but you will need to indicate your interest ahead of time -- most want to be prepared. And there are several that advertise that only offer massage -- no extras, so know before you go. Grindr is littered with "massage" services as well. Be certain that they are set up with an actual massage room/studio before you agree. Many are just offering rub and tug services. If you want to play it safe, both Abybos Spa and SpaMed33 offer "full" service massages. I found my current guy online in a community bulletin board-- he is in in the north in Aranjuez, so I doubt most here would make the trip to his studio. Good luck!

Did you meet him in Pattaya or Bangkok? (Bangkok as per sub-forum?) Does he have a regular job? Obviously not, else he couldn't spend days in a row with you. There are guys who ask for money as a side hustle, they might go with people they like for free, and ask others for money. But they would have a regular job. The fact that he can go for days with you without asking for money is a good start. He must have saving and be in control of his money. Many boys I know, money boys or fun for free with me, are always short of money and just couldn't afford (even if you pay for travel and food, they would have rent or other things to pay). It happens, but is rare. This year I had one case in Pattaya where a boy came to my room and from his profile I would assume he is money boy, but afterwards he was dressed and out quicker than I could reach for my wallet.

For anyone who wonders about these things plane landed at 4:20 I walked out of customs at 5:20

if you like him and enjoy his company go for it. Keep in mind he could be looking for ways of getting off money boy route by seriously hooking up with somebody for good. Even if not, remember my father saying ' prostitutions is work like any other and at least is not dusty" . Dishonest would be if he told you he is not a money boy and still ask you for money at end of session. But other way around ? looks like he was feeling charitable toward you because he liked your company.

Happened to me on at least 2 occasions. One even gave me back 500 which I took and when we had last hug I slipped it back to his underwear in kind of 'back vinapu tuck"

it would be surprising if such serial boy hunter was wrong

I bought SIM card in airport for 7 USD valid for 7 days and it provided excellent coverage , I did not even use hotel's Wi Fi once.

so @floridarob was right XD

So, I was there beginning of Christmas week. Majority of guys were Brazilian and Colombian but good variety of types. For those that like Dominican 🇩🇴 guys, there's a relatively new guy called Eric, who is very cute, muscular and with a big thick cock. I also had some fun with a Brazilian guy originally from Fortaleza, who called himself Anaconda 😂. He was off to Malaga for Christmas/New Year. Overall still worth going to Thermas

A sneak peek of a NEW Year to CUM...... See gallery posted in the PHOTOS section..... Hope these beauties who are "getting ready" for the New Year give you anticipation, hope, joy and happiness for 2026 ?

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It is understandable that you skip FB. Not many hunks there for you.

I agree, passport and wallet wouldve been more hassle especially on a trip and most of your cash are in the wallet. Ive learned to store most of my cash elsewhere ( safety deposit box or locked luggage) and only carry enough cash to spend for the day. This trip, i also use a smaller card holder for my more frequent items so i dont have to take out my wallet as often. Losing wallet will still be a hassle as my cards and ID along with driving license are all there so all need to be replaced. Passport, its a nightmare indeed. Yes, it went through my mind that we have become so dependable with our phone. Losing access to contacts, we used to memorize phone number, and i still memorize my father's phone number for cases like this Reinstalling apps. I do realize, some apps like whatapps, you cant change your phone number without access to the old phone or old phone number. So only way to retrieve my account back is to have my phone provider to reinstate my old phone number with a new sim on a new phone. This will probably require a police report. Financial transaction. Cant deny this has made it much easier for payment, transfer, checking balance etc without having to visit bank. Good thing about going to thailand is most of my transaction are in cash lol And of course, the social media, games, things we do to past time. Losing a phone, i cant use it for distraction anymore.

first two were operating earlier this year if my memory serves me well although it's while since I used their services.

She is sporting that gold cross to ward off vampires.

Sadly the bar that started it all, Moonlight, is now a pale shadow of what it once was. The social media that is. I remember when they used to do nightly live streams of the model parade and made Babe a star.

Agreed that the driving distance makes it seem considerably further than it actually is. As the crow flies, it is quite a thin strip of land. And I agree on the concensus re the weather on east and west coasts. But it's been some years since global warming has been changing weather patterns. I experienced daily rainfall four times visiting Phuket in mid-December spread over a number of years starting around 1995. I am glad you were luckier.

Good on you to visit every bar! Me too but on my recent trip, I missed out on Banana and Atlas (it was open during my first 2 nights then it closed).

what? so soon... why it is so difficult to open a new sauna in SP

I do realise the distance as I have driven between coasts more than fifty times over the years(usually takes 4 or 5 hours depending on starting points and destinations). So the distance is not that small. Let’s hope that the people on the East Coast, where the devastation was recently, are not hit by the forecast repeat. The original devastation was reportedly the worst in 300 years. (and let's hope especially that the rain doesn't spoil anyone's holidays!) For anyone thinking of holidaying in the South the general consensus has been that the rainy season on the East coast(Songkhla etc) is from October to December, while on the West coast(Phuket etc) it lasts from May to November.

most of us are, but my habit is to try to visit every bar at least once per trip, if only to see what's new and support their business

If you haven't seen / read it yet, check this out: LOS SAUNAS GAY BRASILEÑOS - Jose Soplanucas

You do realise I assume that the distance between the east and the west in the south of Thailand is very small. Monsoon rains that quite regularly hit the west coast at the end of the year do sometimes affect the east, although the amount of rainfall may differ considerably. Your experience differs from mine.

Smart thinking on your part! I find it helps to know the guys and their friends. When my guy's Iphone 14 broke down in July, he used his friend's Line account to contact me! His friend has my Line because ... hehehe! Same thing happened recently in December when his new Iphone 15 suddenly shut down and needed software update at Apple Store. My guy got another friend to video him explaining what happened and this other friend sent video to me. And of course, I have his Line because ... hehehe!

When the whole point of a family holiday is sun, sand and swimming, rain is inevitably a considerable disappointment. People do nor fly thousands of kms for rain!

Python has closed.

Thanks for the tips! I just checked the website for today's rate, it is better than mrt sukhumvit branch 7.6 vs vasu 7.63, but silom plaza gives 7.65, so is Xone. This is rate for MYR-Bath, so RM 1 will give me 7.65 baht. Definitely a worthy branch to consider when staying at sukhumvit area!

Day 3.95 - The unmitigated disaster. I immediately asked my guy if he saw my phone, and he said no. I saw one phone on the table and it was his phone. I checked my small backpack thoroughly and its not there. My last recollection was of course i used my phone to book my bolt, and its not with me now, so it can only mean i left it in the bolt car! At this time, my guy is already in the bathroom ready to shower. I told him I would go downstairs to find my phone. In my mind, I was hoping that the driver realized that my phone was left in his car and already gave it to the concierge for me to collect. Alas, when i reached the reception, I asked if anyone leave my phone with them or concierge and they said no. My heart sank, and thoughts running through my head of what will happen if I lost my phone, at the beginning of my trip too. I then told the reception that I believed I left my phone in the bolt car. She asked me if i remember the car plate number. I told her i dont, i can maybe remember the number but not the thai character for sure. The receptionist asked where did the car dropped me, and i told her near the entrance to to hotel lobby, and not at the street. So she called the security and asked them if they can see the security camera footage if they can identify the car plate number. She asked me what time the car dropped me and if i recall the car color and make. I told her its a black toyota vios. While they are helping me with this, she asked me if i can wait and sit at the lounge chair. After few minutes waiting, i thought of an idea. I went back to the receptionist and asked if she has a line. Asked her to find my line account but unfortunately, she couldnt find it using both my phone number or user id. Not the first time i had this issue, especially when exchanging contacts with guys, and best way to bypass this is by sharing QR code. Well, since i did not have my phone with me, that wont work. I then asked if she has whatapps, and unfortunately she doesnt have one. I then asked if she can try to call my phone using my phone number, which is a malaysian phone number, so it will be an international call. I of course said I will pay any charges incur. She tried that as well but apparently had issues getting through the operator. After trying for a while, she then asked he colleague if she has whatapps and to my relief, she said yes. I gave her my phone number for her to add my whatapps account and ask her if she can call my phone. She called, and no one answer. She called again, the same. At this point, I am totally at lost already. Not to mention, i have a hunky guy waiting for me in my room. Ill just have to accept that chances of recovering my phone are slim now. Before I went upstair, i checked again with reception if there is any update on the security camera, and she said not yet. But then, she asked me if the phone number i shared with her is the one i used for my bolt account. I said yes. She told me she is reporting my incident with bolt. And hope that bolt will respond soon. My experience with customer service have been a mixed bag, so I didnt get my hopes up that they will respond anytime soon, seeing its now maybe 2am. Having half accepted my fate, I thanked the receptionist, the security and the concierge for their help, and went back to my room. I guess as i aged, I tend to get better control of my emotion and learnt to accept things that is out of my control. Ive done all i could, and now, its up to the universe to do its thing. While the memory of tonight is somewhat tainted, my session with my guy actually went great. Even though language is a bit of barrier, I think we had good chemistry. He stays until breakfast and before he left, i asked him if he can let his friend (who went with my friend) knows that i lost my phone and I will meet him later at dinner as per agreed before.

Some money boys play the long game, I see this in Bali A LOT (used to see it in Thailand years ago). In the end they get more than if they were getting a daily fee, the feeling of being "loved" plays with hearts and wallets... and in the end, they end up with gifts, trips, great restaurants and in the end, doing less work (sex). Or maybe he likes you.... let us know how it ends or if later requests for money show up.

No argument there. what I noticed sometimes , if selection is too impressive, I may end up confused whom to pick and an t end of day take suboptimal choice. If nobody in line up it that impressive but I still have itching there's always sophisticated " if you don't have what you like, you like what you have" option

I was traveling across Spain - and I'd say it's interesting. It's becoming somewhat of an outlier in terms of European experiences - Spain is growing a network of gay sex cruising clubs where A/B-list pornstars and other Onlyfans subjects gravitate to. It's not a rentboy scene but still something different. Cruising sex clubs are not a novelty - I'm a fan of Lab.oratory in Berlin where 80-year-olds can be seen having fun with those under 30. It's not a pay scene, but rather a free-for-all orgy where the fewer inhibitions you have the more fun you can have in return (or if you come snobby and demanding, you get none). I'd even venture to say that Lab.oratory is a unique space anywhere in the world, nothing I've ever seen anywhere else. But I digress, back to Spain. More cruising clubs like Lab.oratory have started to pop up across Spain - and not only in Madrid or (curiously fewer) in Barcelona, but also in Sevilla, Granada, and elsewhere. Unlike the Lab in Berlin, they took one step further - every weekend they host A/B-list porn stars (i.e. names many know) to do a live sex show with full audience participation. The leader of all this is Exxtreme in Torremolinos - a suburb of Malaga that is slowly wrestling the crown of the Spanish gay capital from Sitges. Torremolinos is pretty much a huge gay nightclub disguised as a Spanish coastal village with numerous gay bars, saunas, clubs, cruising places, etc. Exxtreme is the cruising center of all this - 18 Eur entrance with two drinks included - that every night from Thurs through Sun hosts porn stars that actively encourage sex with audience members. At some parties I went to, some porn stars were even partaking in what I saw as a charity action - picking those of age, those of belly, to drag them to the couch in the center of the room and fuck in front of everyone. Names from just a few past weeks: Apolo Adrii, Gus Torres, Viktor Rom, Nik Fros, Justin Jett, Andy Star, Denis Vega, Ruslan Angelo, Jonathan Miranda, Roque Rems, and many others. Those taking part in these Exxtreme parties usually spend the whole long weekend in Torremolinos and widely available for hire through Hunqz for 250 Eur - others flocking there are at 100-150 Eur. Other Spanish cities are catching up. Sauna Beach in Madrid hosts similar events, albeit on a smaller scale, Thursday through Sunday. Bunker in Seville books porn stars for Fridays and Saturdays. Men's Granada does Saturdays. Some events happen in Barcelona. But I think what's happening in Torremolinos and elsewhere in Andalucia (plus Madrid) is something we haven't seen a few years back. Witnessing porn stars in action a meter from you, with a chance to take part, plus potentially being able to hire them if you're interested - that could be appealing to some (but understandably, not everyone). I just hope this snippet may help somebody who was not aware of all this happening at all.

My impression, others may have different experiences, is that the Rent.men escorts will insist on at least $100USD to start. Many will begin at $150 for a session. A number have regular clientele that keep their bank account full so they can afford to be picky. The OnlyFans scene also means many don’t have to do escorting anymore (looking at you Alejo Ospina). Because of the tourism boom, there are plenty of performers and circuit escorts that hit town, so check the ads when you arrive. There are several guys that do one week stints in Medelln before moving on.

I'm called scroogy when I suggest things like this....🤷‍♂️

Forget the forms. Just email them.

I checked out POC bar. The most lugubrious joint I've visited in decades of whoring. 30$ for a beer after I invited one 'host' to have a drink, only to have several mute and unappealing locals sit down with drinks that ended up on my tab. Not worth arguing over. Just avoid. Never again

The boys I've hired were spontaneous enough!

Just come back from a trip from Mexico City so I thought I'd give an update. Arriving at the airport there are self service passport checks at the border. As you come into arrivals - turn right and you'll find the official taxi payment processors DO NOT go outside and get your own taxi. It's about 300 pesos to the city. I stayed at the Sheraton for 9 nights. I had no problems bringing guests back. This is a decent hotel and I was upgraded from a Corner Suite to a Malmaison Penthouse Suite. Bars are relatively conservative I went to the following: In the gay area: Blow Bar - 150 pesos cover charge. This is 70% women to 30% men. GoGos are hot but they keep their shorts on the whole time. The women here tend to be a bit screetchy and scream when the guys dance. Marikoteca - Unsure of the cover charge because it was 250 pesos on NYE. This used to be kinky bar - 50% to 50% men and women. The women here are different, chill, don't scream etc. Again GoGos are hot but stay in shorts. Drag show is maximum effort - one bitch was waltzing round in a ball gown. Workshop/ El Taller - 100 pesos cover charge. Drag show; no GoGos but the staff are really the nicest in the city. Chilled out. Macho and King/ Papi Fun bar* - No cover charge, no menus and no show; these are scam bars. Do not go to them. You will pay prices similar to Los Angeles. Sauna Olympio* - 250 cover charge, decent enough gay sauna and bathhouse. Outside the gay area: Tom's Leather Bar - 250 pesos cover charge inc. five drinks. Guys dance with hard ons in the two bar areas. They do this every half hour from 10:30 for 15 minutes. The crowd and the staff are good fun here. Worth the Uber with one caveat - I'm a smoker when on a night out so I didn't mind but the guys here smoke in the main bar which wouldn't be ideal for someone with respiratory problems. Near the historic center: Funny Love Cabinas - 100 pesos cover charge inc. one drink. This is cabins in a sex shop. You go in and take the elevator to the 2nd floor. The guys stand around the Cabins. There is a show here (full sex) but they don't give out the details. It just happens. Sexto Piso - 150 pesos cover charge. Most difficult place to find. In the same street as Funny Love you go into a building and it's on the 6th floor. Staff very nice. Cruise club with light room and dark room. Guys fucking all over. Cine Savoy - 60 pesos entry. Old fashion sex cinema. Anyone can get it here. It's packed with about 100 men. Things to be aware of: Gringo prices - You will pay gringo prices in a load of bars. I've put * next to the ones I paid extra in. This can be anywhere from an extra 100 pesos in the sauna to an extra 100$ in Macho and King bars. If they won't give you a price list, just walk out. HOWEVER, if you chose to be taken to a table by a waiter and they run around after you and look after you all night expect to pay about 20% for drinks. I didn't mind at all because I took it as a service charge but if you're on a tight budget go to the bar yourself. Uber - Uber is 99% safe however, do not come off the main drag or the busy areas to make it easier for your driver. This leaves you vulnerable. The concierge told me that occasionally an Uber driver accepts and if the area is remote, they send friend to rob the gringo waiting for them. The metro - If you want to get flashed at, or see someone suck off a random guy - use the last carriage of the metro from Cuauhtémoc to Hidalgo. The street scene - Not my thing but there are a few guys who look too vulnerable to me but they offer sex for less than 10$. These are not in much evidence but they are occasionally available and always on Hamburgo Street between C.Ambrese and C.Varsovia. Closed bars - old favourites BoyBar and BotasBar are perminantly closed. Honestly - I'll be back to Rio for my next adventure. CDMX isn't a lovely place but fun.

I have a monthly membership in SO Bangkok gym and spa; the infinity pool with a view to Lumpini park is used mostly for insta pics. It is impressive. Very cool infinity jacuzzi with a city view, I sit mostly there (alone🙂). Many gay visitors (some hot) but have not seen cruising. I have been there daytime, maybe after work? I will report if I see something. Honestly - the gym is rather poor, the spa area smallish and the place is more for relaxing. There are excellent seats in the pool under the bushes, which provide nice shade. Drinkies are served.

Trump has broken every one of the 10 commandments.

Religion is simply a "PROP" in their agenda. We shouldnt be misled. Just look at their "Deeds", they are anything but Christian. But their plan is to keep mentioning JESUS, thinking that will justify their UN-christian behavior. They are all FRAUDS.