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Trust me Alex, after ONE EXPERIENCE, I do not go to that spa again. Great suggestion Christian! Whereas the guy's telephone number is not posted with his photo on the spa's site, I call the spa and ask to speak to the guy; works like a charm! As the old expression goes: "there is more than one way to skin a cat". Again, thanks Christian, great suggestion.

A few years ago several go-go clubs I went to had guys dancing barefooted; erotic and great for those with a foot fetish. On this trip in Bangkok I have not seen that. Has anyone been to any bars recently (within the past few months) where the dancers are shoeless?

My aunt asked me to think about this: "what would he or she do if you were not there? How did they survive all of these years without you? If you are always filling up their bucket, why should they put anything in it?" I did think about this and still do. During my last visit to the massage spa, the guy told me that he really likes me because I am different, and could I buy the new I-phone for him? I told him I really like him and can we have free sex? He laughed saying: "free sex! No No, need money." I laughed and said: "free Iphone, no no, I need money. He said: "you have money". I paid him and said:"you have money." We both smiled.

I just finished reading all of this information, wow. Question: how many old out of shape Thai men do you see with young thin Thai boyfriends, or have them as live in lovers? In your own country, how many old men do you see with lovers 20, 30, 40 or 50 years younger than them? How many POOR old men do you see with a much younger lover? Also, remember this, a rose has a lot more thorns on it than a beautiful blooming bud. Enjoy the beauty of the rose, but be careful how you touch or hold it or you will get stuck/hurt.

So true, making a reservation for a specific guy over the telephone is a waste of time. Without exception, the guy I made a reservation for was not available when I arrived at the spa. And each time the receptionist said he did not understand what I was requesting; HOWEVER, this or that guy is available, take him. ARE WE THAT STUPID OR DESPERATE? Before everyone gets upset with what I have written, think about it. If this has not worked in the past, they would not still be doing it. How often do people actually buy things that they did not order or want? Can you imagine going to a restaurant, ordering a steak dinner only to be served a chicken dinner with the excuse that "I did not understand what you ordered"? Seriously, would you accept the chicken dinner and pay the steak dinner price? Again, obviously this system is working for the spas otherwise they would not still be doing it.

By the way, can you suggest any other "soapies" locations?

Thank you for the information and map. It was very helpful. That evening I went to JC. When I entered, I saw several girls behind a glass wall and an older lady rapidly approached me, asking for me to sit down and take a look. I did not sit. I inquired about a message from a guy. Quickly and yet politely she escorted me to the door and pointed out a "gay" massage place a block away. I smiled and quietly left. By the way, the gay massage place was terrible; such is life. Several years ago I had a "soapie" experience at a gay massage place in Pattaya. I do not remember the name of the place. It was located quite aways from the other gay establishments, and the boys sat/stood on stage in their street clothes. I thoroughly enjoyed the soapie experience; a lot more than an oil rub down - smile. Maybe one day.......

Where specifically is JC Infinity located? I was in the area but could not find the place and no one knew of it.

In the Pattaya area, any recommendations or suggestions for hotels located directly on the beach; rooms with a balcony over looking the beach,

Nice report. Do you remember the guy's name?

Has the Venue in Pattaya closed? Their web site has been down for awhile.

Thanks Calluna. All I needed was the name and addresses of the bars, and you did an excellent job in providing the information I requested.

Does anyone have any information, such as name and location, of a bar or bars which features an underwater show in Bangkok, Pattaya or Chiang Mai?

In Brazil the majority of the guys at the saunas do not cum because they will look for another client as soon as they leave you. To cum, the guys want extra money - generally double the price. That is understandable, after all they are there for the money. On the S. Korean massage sites, it is written that the guys "do not cum". Reading this prompted me to open this topic. Also, I decided to forego a trip to S. Korea and return to the land of "happy endings" for one and all. Thanks everyone for your input.

When you visit a massage place or off a boy, do you expect him to cum?