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yes, when we were passing by with ChristianPFC on Oct 7 I guess place was already emptied

that shower show by Fluke must be good since we have 2 good comments about it in row. Nothing to be scared about him, I found him very friendly and generous with smile. As for ignorance part , since third party / mamasan / was involved , and you did not tip him you will never know who did not like you, Fluke or that mamasan. It's why I usually by-pass them although at Moonlight I did exactly the same -asked mamasan to bring him over but gave him 100 baht so he can focus on the task. It worked. I need to re-examine my priorities as Nicky seem to be second guy along with Soda from Tawan offed by me who reminds you your aunt. LOL

you seem to have pre-conceived notions about Moonlight based on what you hear from us. It may save you time and money but if you don't go you will never know. Don't make mistake I made with Tawan. Even if I like bigger boys for first 8 trips I did not put my foot inside because comments I was reading on various fora. When finally braved door , what I saw was not what I heard before and soon was on Tawan monodiet LOL

I'm still happy that along with another short-lived bar, Tokyo Boys in Patpong I managed to taste their offerings, long time at that and memories are good from both. Actually I will BigBoys not only because of go-gos but very friendly, handsome and not pushy mamasan, rarity , as well

if you are happy with him , I'd say money still very well spent. On few occasion I noticed than when I overtipped at first place thay are still amendable to more reasonable rates. I'm one who likes to set monetary expectancy up front and it has nothing to do with boys being greedy , savy etc- my own invention to prevent any haggling spoiling my fun. Granted still sometimes odd boy shows greedy side and asks for more but it's very rare / once every three trips I estimate /

but even them when they notice that is not good for business may tone it down. But if they see it rather improves cash flow than quiet loving types are doomed as far as BT locations are concerned

I must be staying in different Boyztown last few times as certainly I don't recall much of noise disruption. Granted, living on busy street I may have higher noise tolerance but still....

and sprays are expensive but people decent

I'd just rent cheapest room in say . Marine Plaza Inn or Baan Dok Mai and keep it for a purpose. By accident in October I had rooms in Ambiance and Zing Jomtien or the same night / booked by mistake / and I find it fun and useful for slightly above 20$ a night

we can only hope those ladies will not try to convert XBoys and Dreamboys customers to hetero ways. LOL

I don't know how widespread it is but over years I witnessed several times food delivered to bars for the staff. Often , when I off boys and I ask them if they are hungry I get an answer they ate in the bar already although it not necessarily means it was courtesy of their bosses

that's correct, for most boys 100 baht is still very sizable chunk of money. I guess some people just get a kick of splashing money, specially if they are with company of their compatriots who can be impressed by such careless spending

from Swampy twice as much as train but half of taxi price, it's good to have an options

You both overreacting in my opinion based on my stay there just month ago to a day

gays who like loud music

you are quite generous, my rough custom is 100 baht for every 15 minutes I keep him beside, I keep an eye on how busy bar is , and if it's busy I either off boy or release him after few minutes so somebody may enjoy him as well. Like Nathan I don't grope them unless they initiate it or jump from the stage just for short feel like Nice Boys boys are doing

what do you mean ? Old - yes , but terrible ? not impossible, that list I saw would support that way of thinking as it could be supplementary payroll list but tipping itself was low key i.e . I saw how much he tipped because I was sitting just behind but was it was given to boys was discreet with note hidden in the palm. I saw the same month ago in Castro , Boyztown, this time it were 2 Russians treating the same way all performers, few more than once. There are people who understand that often fun needs to be oiled by money and like our friend paulsf says ' calculator is NOT most important travel accessory"

obviously you are not hungry

# me too , but I like silence better

off one who is smiling at me today and try my luck with another one tomorrow

serves me well so far, not always but mostly

perhaps you should stick just to a water, make sure it's not too wet

no idea but my highly educated guess would be it was not his first visit and he prepared list previously or even it was given to him by somebody else , along with money. Not that I care but I just described what I saw, list and money , being sober, I haste to add. ( I posted my input before I read what Jasper had to say above in case somebody wonders )

spread it over mash potatoes served as a a side

This is what happens when people watch too much of TV.