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boring - not at all. Good leads on sightseeing , feeding and secluded beaches may be more worthwhile for some than under the sheets graphics

Being one of those who grayed almost overnight I wish I could say the same !

then we have an answer to a thread's originating line

welcome to the forum, great report, you entered forum with big bang! For first timer you did very well. Escaping that massage place quoting 3000 was right thing to do as they clearly sensed you are newbie and tried to skin you alive. Classic boys mamasans are recently famous for being obnoxious but is seems you did well with them. Best time to be at Grand Palace is when they open at 8.30, shortly after it becomes zoo with all those buses delivering masses of tourists. If you are flying early in the morning it's actually good idea to have fun with boy till wee hours. Not only due to prolonged fun factor but for practical purpose - you will be tired and sleepy in your flight which helps you to get some sleep on then plane and fighting jet lag will be easier at home. At least this is my experience. I usually hold unto boy to the moment I need to go to the airport for that reason. Don't be under impression Bangkok is just scammers and barkers , both easy to shake off. make sure you return to LOS soon.

hence boys will say in the bar English : " I go loom you"

not only against outsiders but also insiders. Each country seems to have a part people coming from are considered by the rest lazy , slow thinking , cheap , greedy , you name it.

isn't Levinsky hotel in Pattayaland soi 1?

you forgot to mention name of the hotel. Tarntawan? LOL

no reason to be put off but it will not hurt to check escape routes after arrival, just in case. Twisted corridors at Ambiance were reason I used ' fire trap' expression,fast finding way out when in panic is important. At Le Cafe layout it is much simpler. Still I recommend both

this question can be answer with certainty only after execution Protection is understandable , Saudis are allies because of oil and strategic position . Silence about known abuses is disgraceful particularly when lesser abuses in other countries are noisily put into light. I guess those double standards were rehearsed after Pol Pot fall when atrocities were well known but still so called Democratic Kampuchea kept it's seat at UN with USA support just to piss off Vietnamese.

exactly , do sightseeing there where possible and for fun we have Pattaya and Bangkok where those handsome Middle Easterners can be spotted not only speeding on motorbikes but sipping drinks / never milk / in gay bars

do you really believe that those ladies who are stoned to death for adultery in those countries had sex with stranger in the presence of 4 required witnesses? Really? And yet from time to time we hear and read about such a deaths. As my late grandmother of blessed memory said ' if you want to kick somebody , you always find a foot"

this would be truth if Saudi Arabia were country of size of say, Qatar or Bahrain. Sheer size of country and population as well as fact that is seat of Islam's holy sites makes it both atypical and at the same breath gold standard for many coreligionists .

I actually learned it here on this forum. Not only cute but very handy description- warm but not moving. But I must say sometimes I don't mind sandbag as long as he has great body to explore and is not rushing things, remember fondly one of Dreamboys who felled asleep immediately and so hard leaving me to explore him gently and undisturbed till morning. Full tip still and a smile until now at recollection Great report Keniching, I'm glad A story turned out as it supposed to, you have good heart leaving him with tip, chalk 4000 off as a merit. And certainly A has a class if he refused to take money in the first place. Being on time - I confirm it happens to boys quite often so I'm not that surprised although it could happen more often. But it's not easy perhaps in a big city like BKK with it's traffic and distances./ I know I'm looking for excuses for a boys /

all available, don't expect much from Lao tea, in this respect Laos is not excatly Sri Lanka nor Kenya

My guess will be they simply realize that probability of being recognized is minuscule and even if that happens person will keep quiet about where saw them as disclosure may be more embarrassing for them than for boy itself. What can be forgiven for student topping up his scholarship may not go that well for supposed pillar of community revealed as Chaturbate fan.

yes , that's my impression as well and sometimes even with boys who are fathers themselves. I have been asked if they can call me 'dad' to which at first I balked but when realizing excatly what you and matt said above all I could do was just to hug them stronger and closer.

You know for sure or you are just guessing? Just asking . For me is seems to be stretch since I guess that most of 19 y.o. gay boys are neither prostituting themselves nor jerking off in front of camera for a money.

Great article worth repeated reading . I'm not surprised you had such an experience , I heard it before at least twice including one from an American as well. Now imagine how lesser foreign employees are treated there. I don't want to derail this thread but can't stop this reflection. All you described is well known. Why we never hear cries of American human rights defenders about situation there. Where are American feminists standing for rights of their Saudi sisters? Imagine American employee had his departure visa held for weeks in say, Russia. We will hear scream of US media from here all the way to Vladivostok. Too bad it was you who paid price for all that double standard and hypocrisy.

you are on the roll today Nirish !

I think they simply realize that risk is so minimal as almost non-existing and while theoretically possible practically none. Probability of exposure is very low and even if does happen as cdnmatt noticed in another thread today other people would have good incentive to keep quiet to avoid next question of what they were doing in that den of sin. It's not only Arab and not only gay problem, hetero farang walking along Patpong night market may be spotted and exposed too, rising questions what he , married man and father of three , in charge of department at corporation was doing at night there, certainly not shopping for fake watches as souvenirs , right? Of course world is small and I'm pretty sure most of us have stories of meeting somebody unexpected in least probable place but chance of this happening is so minimal is not worth the trouble worrying.

I think they simply they don't think anybody they know would visit that site and if somebody does will keep quiet about what he saw. If one goes for vacations and leaves a key with friend to water his plants we expect that if that friend will see something he shouldn't he will keep it to himself

amen to that !

then imagine horror of boy expecting to see sprightly 40 something and who opens door? same same faced but twice the girth with half hair another boy misleading farang , LOL

be nice , shouldn't you say 'who will be showing' instead ?