vinapu

so far I managed to ignore ' ignore' function on this forum but at times I can see why others find it usefull

At least Malaysia may justify it by their very low room rates but reports are that much more upscale hotels are charging for internet access.

nobody asked me for return ticked when I landed on Dec 2 nd

not a danger for me as I always take bookings for 2 people just in case, in Thailand I don't like to sleep alone

then do read us more often

not necessary, do not try to spoil your fun by watching clock but I generally tell them that long time is till breakfast and I'm not a late sleeper. If for whatever reason you want boy to stay till 10 I'd clear it with him as he may have daytime commitments i.e. taking kids to a school.

With their new President it will be only better and better , just watch

now I feel diminished to a point of almost of non-existence. I guess you must have golden tooth or two as well, no?

never saw any insects there and only problem I ever had at Nantra was refrigerator smelling durian once. 20$ room they call 'economy' and has single bed and no window, good enough for twink lovers but for me being fan of bigger men single bed is bit too narrow

they can have it and keep till my next appearance there as my visit on the first night was my only one this trip. I agree and credit xiluzer from this forum for introducing this hotel to me. Like you, I liked Om Yim as long as toilets were flushing there but at one point maintenance there became a serious problem

it is logic and to some extend works that way but I gladly need to state that it's far from universal. This was not a first time when Tawan boys tried to up their tip from me but I offed so many of them and quite a few took what i offered without even blinking an eye and saying that this or that boy got more from me. I think greed is taking better of some but not all. Good example is Od #14 , offed at least 8 times and I never had any conversation about money with him.

He is good guy but unfortunately for both of us , too possessive. l, like you, find both tactics of-putting specially as we will see in few days boys instead of competing may be co-operating creating fun in the process and better income stream. Not to keep too much in suspense , I offed boy from another bar and he asked me to take his friend as well, few days later another boy who could't give me long time after short time was over lead me to his friend from bar suggesting that he will take good care of me and he did. Full stories in due course. I don't mind paying as long as I get my money's worth but some things are spoilers for me , among them boy telling me when our time together is over, big no, no. as far as off is concerned for me he is close to the top and we always had good chemistry but when I sense I'm being milked it's when fun stops on my side. I don't mind boys trying to get the best of deal but if customer is well known to them better tactics is to restrain demands than escalate them. It's different story with client which is new and may never show up again and different with somebody with proven track record of stepping in and offing from the bar night after night .At least this is what I'd think.

me? no, I don't boost my self -esteem by staying in high ends, rather spent money on boys than capitalists owning chain hotels, LOL Usually every trip I treat myself with 2-3 nights in Tarntawan or Raya and even there only if I manage to catch a good deal- it was a case with Raya in Jun this year. Otherwise Nantra,. Malaysia, On Yim /now changed name and become hostel / , Pavillion Place or Take -a-nap are good enough for me with BBB Inn being top of luxury line as far as I'm concerned.

Actually I agree with you re: tip left , if was way too much just for a massage , I guess before I went there I was expecting and prepare to pay for more. On another hand it would be beautiful world if our well being on retirement depended on paying right amount of tip for massage so I gladly let him to have that 20$ extra as most effective way for me to save money would be just not going for that massage for purpose of this research or even better, stay home.

longer you sleep, shorter your vacations are

In the beginning word of warning as tittle of the thread is a little misleading. I went to Cambodia without any intention to chase men, rather I wanted to visit some places which at time of my previous visit back in 2001 were inaccessible due to mines, impassable roads and lack of any infrastructure. Old habits are dying slowly so when opportunity appeared so did men in my environment, hence tittle. This time an inspiration for a trip came directly from e-mail in a form of fare offer which seemed to good to be true but turned out accurate. Only requirement was to make decision fast as it was expiring in a day or two so I did and as result flew through half of the world for less than 600 $ round trip. Thus day 1 of my trip started early in the morning with 1.30 a.m. landing at Swampy. Immigration was a breeze this time and exchange rates in the airport looked decent so I made smart decision to exchange 100 USD just in case since I had only 500 baht on me from the last trip , enough for taxi but not much more. Air temperature was nice surprise as well , arrival in BKK is usually marked by wall of hot air but definitely not this time. 425 baht including tolls , airport surcharge and driver’s tip and I parked myself in Nantra Silom. Decent , modern and clean room for less than 1000 baht always good deal. Did not go to bed though, instead went to Patpong to see half naked workers finishing packing up night market stalls and goodies. Always pretty sight. From there through darkened soi Twilight where I noticed still some patrons drinking at blackened Hot Male beer bar at 2.30, to BBB Inn to see if my favorite masseur Tao is still working there. Yes and no as I was told he just left yesterday for 2 weeks vacation and will be back only just before my departure. At computer in the lobby was sitting another boy and receptionist read me very well suggesting him as a substitute for late night massage. Sure. My 100 $ exchange at the airport came handy as price of massage was pretty steep at 1700 boy tip included. Curious I asked how much of that boy gets and answer was 500 which later I confirmed as being accurate, in fact is 510 which is 30 % of fee paid. Certainly it’s pretty expensive but I guess they charge for 7/24 availability. I’m glad I started my trip somewhat in style and after 18 hours in silver tube certainly massage was not waste, in fact enlivened me enough so we could have some fun with the handsome boy who was entertaining me .1.50 hr. and an additional tip of 1000 later I was seen marching through completely deserted Suriwong to the hotel to get some sleep. Not that I overdid it , three or four hours later I was up again to start my day with some planned chores-post office , some shopping, barber and my customary walk through Lumpini park but this time no familiar faces at the gym. Jet lag was catching with me so it was lazy day but late afternoon I went to Senso hoping my favorite from there Jack , author of funny phrase “ I like girls but I like your hand too “ will be there. Both mamasans recognized me or at last smiled and proclaimed “ I remember you” and Jack was there so we went for 1.5 hr session which was exactly what I wanted and expected. Senso and Arena are never disappointing me and I like Jack for his wit , massage skills and great muscular and smooth body. As said many times , straights somehow are working for me very well. Over tipped him with 2000 and still think money well spent. I always follow advice of not eating at least 2 hrs before massage so I left quite hungry. But it was dark already so I went straight to Oasis on Suriwong where they make one of best chicken with cashew nuts everywhere and treated myself with my favorite dish. Left restaurant at 8.30 , this is a time when paulsf from our forum usually takes his position in the HotMale beer bar and he was there. We had nice conversation over whatever we were drinking and then went to Fresh Boys for a show . Some impressive appendages in the big cock show making noises by hitting steel pole with their own one by using trick of hitting that pole with their knee as well. Nobody notices it because no sane men having chance of watching cock and a knee will opt for second option. Bar was about half packed on that Friday night. Distributed two 100 tips, liked look of #28 but at my first night in Bangkok my heart was somewhere else – Tawan, so left charms of fresh boys and paulsf with them and went straight there. Right inside I was greeted by smiling Alek, boy I took to Pattaya in Jun and Tiger whom I never offed long time and was hoping to nail him tonight. Show was almost over with 2 boys chuck wowing on the stage , tipped each 100. Ordered drinks for both boys and me, in meantime boys I offed in the past – Toon , Phet , Od , Soda came to shake hands smiling and of course offering their company tonight but my sights tonight were on Tiger. In meantime I noticed quite a few new boys , in particular # 6 looked great , later on he came to shake hands too. Hope there’s future here. Asked about Boy #15 , my favorite personality at Tawan but he went home for few weeks. So now I’m sitting surrounded by smiling muscular beauties with Alek to my left asking me to take him tonight and Tiger to my right with me asking him if he goes long time. Answer was immediately ‘yes’ so only thing left is to settle compensation as other expectancies are mutually known, we met few times short time and pretty much know what to expect – last December he was my best off on my trip which without any doubt I consider my best ever. Quote of 5000 comes, yes , sure what about my usual 3000. Not even 3500, 4000 minimum , OK , I bleed alive but pay. I guess he read me correctly that I was determined to off him and cashed in being third boy from there milking me for that much. In meantime Alek is doing his best to extract off from me on a basis that Tiger has more offs than him like I came that far to bring sense of even-handedness to Tawan boys. O boy , how I got myself into such trouble in my favorite bar? Am I sucker? I guess so it dawned on me. Now Tiger and me are leaving bar for short walk to Nantra, both happy or at least pretending to / I was genuinely happy, I like Tiger, he likes 4000 I guess/. Great company , great off, money well spent and than in the morning he tells me he needs to go to the gym like he did not have enough gymnastics with me apparently, LOL. It was pretty late but still morning , not even late morning and while I have high tolerance for monetary requests , I have low one for boys telling me when appointment is over. So I gnash my teeth , smile, kiss him good bye and pretend to be happy. On my way to Fodland Patpong for breakfast / Nantra has free breakfast but it’s basic one , too basic for me/ I check my e-mails in the lobby. There’s one short but angry from Alek proclaiming how disappointed he is with me not offing him last night. So day 1 so great through and through is finishing on sour note for me.

Recently visited Siem Reap and while massages and man chasing was not on my agenda at all life run its course leading me to visit 4 massage places and here are my impressions: BLUE HATHA / I learned hatha means hand in Khmer/. Centrally located, two blocks from Pub Street. 6-7 boys on duty, similar format to HERO , boys behind the glass and you pick up whomever you like the most. Took my usual 1.5 hr. session with boy with broadest smile at me. 1 hr.- 15 USD , 1.5 hr. 20 USD. Only cold shower, shower alone .Mattress on elevated pedestal. Massage good, boy in underwear, removed at bit later. Pretty soon talk turned to boyfriends , marriage proposals etc. Shortly speaking , hint was given that more than massage is available and will be provided on request. After massage shower together , boy mentioned he doesn’t like cold shower but soldiered on. Tipped 40 and left smiling , planning to return as quite a few boys took my fancy but life run it’s course. LINGA BAR AND SPA In a small alley parallel to Pub Street. 3 massage rooms upstairs from the bar, well appointed, marbles , hot water , mattress on elevated pedestal. Boy was assigned to me from rotation which I did not mind as he was looking good to those tired eyes. 1hr 19 $, 1.5 – 26$, took that session as always. Boy dressed in singlet and underwear , pretty soon my foot was positioned firmly against his jewels but my foot movement was met with stern ‘what are you doing? ‘ just to keep appearances I guess. Massage was good and playing mouse and cat trying to reach contents of his undies was fun but we did not go further than just those semi-innocent games. But I liked an experience, showered alone after massage, tipped 30 $ and left smiling . Certainly not as adventurous as Blue Hatha but potential is there for those who are determined I guess. BARCODE At river end of Party Alley , extension of Pub Street, opposite to a wat . There’s bar on a first floor and few well appointed massage rooms upstairs. It looks that they also have a rotation system but boy who was supposed to be first in line was missing , guy on duty tried to find him for a moment but said if you like me , you can take me. I did as he was tall and fairly well built so why not ?. Price structure the same like Blue Hatha. Massage on a table, again 1.5 hr. course taken, showered alone which seems to be Siem Reap standard. Massage boy in briefs but after a while he made sure he was not far from my wandering hands. Noticing my interest asked ‘ you like my cock? You can have it whole night tonight if you like’. Certainly proposal worth careful consideration and after whole 5 seconds of deliberations my answer was ‘sure’. No need to say massage session at this moment was terminated and since narrow massage bed was not conductive to getting to know each other better we decided to continue in my room. Off fee was 5 $ only , I guess so cheap because I already paid for massage and I gave him his massage tip as well. Off we went picking up some street food on our way to a hotel where we were greeted by knowing smiles of owner and few tourists congregated in the lobby but days where I would be embarrassed by such attention are mercifully long gone. We both did very well by that arrangement, not only spending three nights together but also upon learning that in the morning I’m taking trip to very remote Prasat Bakan he asked if I think he can go with me to which I agreed happily. More about that adventure in the incoming trip report. MAN This is man only resort hidden in small alley close to Wat Polanka, kind of hard to find but if one follows maps from their website is not really that difficult to get there. From main street National Highway 6 there small alley with sign “Man” and it’s really short walk from there. Tuk-tuk drivers apparently all know the place and it may be the truth because first one I hailed close to my hotel knew it. I went there with very high expectations as very name ‘Men’ says it all. Very classy place with prices to match, price structure the same like in LINGA 20/26 for 1/1.5 hr session. I was assigned boy, very , very good looking , not tall but God-like muscular so I was hoping for plenty. On the way to a massage room glimpsed amenities, pool, gym , few patrons, one with boy beside. Showered alone , massage on the table with well, boy in singlet and briefs and he stay that way for the whole 1.5 hr. course. Not even once hint was given that fun other that just a massage may be available so I had just that- very good professional massage by extreme eye candy but that’s it. Left 30 $ tip which considering circumstances was probably too generous but truth is I liked massage. So in comparison with Bangkok or Pattaya massages in Siem Reap are not as adventurous but fun can be had as my Barcode adventure testifies. Certainly there room for further exploration and I liked all 4 places even if experience was not exactly Senso, Arena or Hero like. But after all it’s different country , different culture so subject of man to man massage may be approached differently as well.

In similar emergency twice I used Thai Smile right on Silom between Patpong and soi 6, perfect job , fast and not expensive/ less than 1500 /. As a bonus one of dentists there is real hunk of Tawan / Jupiter quality

I think and deeply believe that all this breakfast discussion is misplaced. Most of us including 86 kilo of myself of course can use much, much reduced breakfast servings than those offered at Raya, not to mention Meridien ones. Do you guys really travel that far to have nice and sumptuous breakfast ? I'm always amazed how much place food discussion and information takes in a guidebooks and how much time travelers spent discussing food and restaurants. I just returned from Cambodia and positively more people asked me how did I like food and what did I ate than what I did actually see there.

there are bigger and warmer joys in Thailand, but yes , you are right

It looks that I had bad luck at Nice boys on the night of my visit. One more point to check bars frequently because situation changes it looks Two boys at Eros were not muscular but at least had some muscle definition , nice in comparison to other boys in the bar. it think he meant in general. With only three go-gos left in Sunee survey of realm doesn't take that long and doesn't cost that much with cost of drinks in 120-160 area.

Forgot to mention but it's indicated above, now it's called 84 Hotel. Clean , yes although room was cleaned every second day, good enough for me. First night I spent in regular room , there was working safe. Then upgraded to a penthouse apartment and there was no safe in the room but i guess they could transfer from another room on request. No, there are no dogs now

as Barack Obama used to say 'yes, you can"

z909 , be brave and go in. Boys there are better built but not bodybuilders at all so I'm sure you will find somebody interesting. Boy I offed from there last week wisely observed that in bars with show customers are watching show , not a boys. Mamasan not pushy at all. Great place.

it would be beautiful world if we could trust people just because they are educated but unfortunately those are different qualities and not synchronized at all