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often when boy we are hunting for is not present / available it opens new opportunities and boys who otherwise will be overlooked are turning out to be shining stars. Luck has it's own uses IMHO

I can't agree more

if this kind of thinking would become mainstream, it were outright scary. Right to do what we want is one thing but our lives are littered with wrong choices made on daily basis and some of those are affecting others. what about financial means to exercise that right ?

that is very good reason to let that option go

I wonder how many of those young ones will not have a chance to be older and see how it is keeping with change because of that new definition or rather diefinition of safe sex. But at least we should be grateful to you for initiating that discussion above and congratulate ourselves that whatever our opinion is , we managed to keep it civil and on the subject. This thread is a candidate to Timeless forum I suggest

that's the famous Thai hospitality

and is opened longer, when soi Twilight is closing, Screwboys are starting their second show

It's why I find bar hopping efficient use of vacation time. 5 minutes from entry my hand may be resting on some handsome knee.

for me ladyboy lipsync is part and parcel of visiting Thai bar with show experience so I suffer silently with dignity through all motions and corresponding noise and sometimes if I like what I see I tip those performers all the same I tip boys I like on the stage

not only you. Both mook and silicone deforms the man best asset and I feel sorry for few boys who allow themselves to those ' improvements ' and now are looking for ways of getting rid of them

Prep or not, please make sure I'm in your will, I expect need for new car soon

it must be one set of rooms in the corner , mine was classified as ;' deluxe king bed '

I did not know JFK was a gay

perhaps masseur preferred to separate completely massage from fun part , I had that on more than one occasion. Curiously , almost always ir was case of very good massage followed with even better fun part. So it may be some method in such madness if guy is taking his duties seriously.

I never offed from massage places close to Tarntawan but offed massage boys from other venues many, many times so in most cases that should be no problem although I had cases when management was OK but boy did not want to go outside , one from Arena went only after his friends knowing me somewhat , persuaded him he should be happy to be chosen one. Inquiry about price , some places may charge actually hefty sum for off fee, other with charge cost of 1 -1.5 hr massage as off fee. Arena few Magnolia / now defunct place in Pattaya / allowed me to off boy for free as long as I had massage in the place earlier that day , even if it was with different boy but it seemed to be on a whim rather than rule. Although few times I was asked to pay boy minimum tip before we marched out and even witnessed that mamasan gave boy his share right away. So to answer your question - yes for both boys available and off fee but exception apply and policy changes from place to place and in my experience , even from mamasan to mamasan and from clinet to client . Some places may charge extortionate outcall fee - i.e Senso is quoting 5000 all inclusive for 2 hr massage which is I think 1500 more than the same length in situ even with 2000 minimum tip for 2 hrs.

waiting impatiently

aussie_ , too bad you did not visit Space bar since I'd be very interested in your impressions, I remember numazu's accolades after his visit there

yes I agree , great report and about of fresh air from our usual Bangkok / Pattaya grind

I send you by PM for the same reason

just go and when you return , please tell us how you liked it

that's the disease many of us are suffering with badly but thanks God cure exists and is called ' flight ticket'

In order to avoid polluting this thread I sent you link to trip report for that trip by PM

very well said. For me too, vacations are from everything , including daily routine. I have basic plan for every holiday but don't have any attachment to it, it's just to put together ideas of what I want to do and see. This is why I advise to have some trip plan, for such organizational value Sometimes I realize it to the last point , other times it gets derailed sooner or later . Thailand trips are particularly prone to derailment due to all those massage boys sitting outside of shops and waving price lists at me . I may not even think about visiting this or that place but all of the sudden there's that younger brother of Apollo standing at front of some obscure place and I know I need to put my hands on him and my wallet to good use so fuck with day plan from that moment on. I learned that often occasion will not repeat itself - boy will be gone , occupied or will not look as attractive as today so try to act on it. Only time really when I stick to plan is when I have prearranged meeting , then even Apollo twins and their older brother would not derail me from heading where somebody is waiting for me. I don't want my parents to roll in their graves.

I tend to look for lower end of price scale when choosing hotels , I don't need any luxuries as long as hot water is available and A/C is working / quietly / , if breakfast is not offered I don't see any problem of walking to the nearest venue. What I'm willing to pay premium for is location - I like to be walking distance of biggest attraction of the place I'm in unless public transport is nearby and very frequent like in most of European big cities. Since I like to change hotels frequently even if staying in the same city I did not try airbnb yet and definitely I'm not interested in belonging to any hotel loyalty program.

that is good for the boys. I'm not competitive , LOL and like people who are not wasting their vacation time. Screwboys has and always will have soft spot in my heart as my probably best boy ever, One , was from there