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Jason I second paul's assessment of your trip , not a second wasted and big thank you for finding time to write here for us. Good to know Chinese started are offing boys. It means bars will survive

welcome to the forum , you entered with a bang !

relax, not every Tawan boy is a massive bodybuilder and I, even if far from slim still don't fit stereotype of " fat farang" not to mention that beds in Grand Deluxe rooms at Raya are quite spacious

I had this at Raya while hosting two Tawan boys in row. When walking Oud to an elevator Alek was already waiting in the reception. Faces of people on reception were worth any admission price. At least when day or two later I brought them both at the same time nobody blinked an eye not to mention no question was asked why I'm buying additional breakfast,., LOL

thank you for a good laugh Paul, I'm still laughing

with 3 days at disposal Jason can't afford to linger. Often when bar hopping in such manner in order to avoid saturation instead of buying drink for myself I buy one for mamasan, that way bar has sale and mamasan is neutralized.

great report , thank you. Certainly you did not waste even minute, I like that type of vacation. Can imagine person on reception at Glitz watching that carousel of boys you entertained, LOL Fun, Fun, Fun Nothing changed at Classisc in respect of mamasans, will they ever learn? or being pushy just works for them somehow? It's supposed to be low season and yet we are getting great bar reports from both BKK anf PTT daily, long live forum and it's contributors ! It looks like low season brings more fun ? 650 off fee at Dreamboys is nothing new but certainly new Jupiter gives all bars run for money. Don't forget about BOY66 in old Jupiter location ! Perhaps your dream boy for final day waits for you there, LOL

that sounds very enticing and promising. What about sound level? I always liked their shows but sometimes it's just impossible to watch due to all those decibels

read it as b-boys performance after first 3 numbers and then literally what wiliewillie wrote. Watch sample of b-Boys number on the street here:

everywhere else yes , but this is Pattaya

that's him

great report Jason, hopefully you will have better room tonight so you don't need to sleep alone in the cold bed.

good boys of Good BOYS don't waste much time before they go down to the business so it may be bit shocking for uninitiated but as you noticed they are friendly and not pushy at all. If you need better light- they are offable and short time rooms are just next door I guess, after all we are in Pattaya

try Royal House in small soi beside Tuk Com and all three massage places in Boyztown, well staffed by hunks

Great report and great catch at Arena as Nuk is a kind of star there and always in demand. First report for a while from Tawan, hope boys are doing well there. If one buys them a drink and have them sitting with then they may guide hand to the bulge in undies but certainly not the blatant way that Japanese did. In comparison to other bars Tawan boys are more adventurous but still conscious of appearances so to speak. I don't think I ever had Arena massage with boy not showering with me at both ends of session but in other places it varies. I tend to leave it to the boy's routine and don't make an issue if they prefer to shower separately but always tell them that I like shower together and if they don't , I tend to skip them next time just like reader above. Hero, Bonnys and Bangkok Massage soi Twilight boys invariably showered with me every time at both ends of session, at Prince never unless I insisted , at Senso never before session but always after one to mention more popular places.

as mentioned I paid up front few times , it worked very well but done always only with boys previously offed , routine always the same - showing him money laying on the desk / table and telling him 'this is for you for tonight', in most cases they did not even touch money till morning

as usual Arena delivers, nice to know that you too are starting your BKK adventures with Arena, my habit for many trips. Nothing enlivens our muscles from several hours of sitting on the plane than good massage with dose of excitement to bring an adrenaline to proper level

If boy asked for an advance payment for me it would be warning signal and I'd had second thoughts. Never happened, quite opposite , one I took boy from Pattaya to BKK for 5 days and up front he asked me to pay him at end so he can save money. Smart move by every account because not only he coldn't squander it but also he had excuse to ask me for some money here and there because he had none. As for non performing boy I still paid him 1000 as a price of getting him out of door since things were getting hysterical on his side and I did not want whole hotel to rise up. Story was reported here and if you interested I will sent you a link by PM to avoid derailing this thread .

are you planning to go and check for us ?

good to know Arena and Screwboys are doing well, those places seem always to deliver. As for money requests - I guess boys decided there's no harm trying but in order to get a tip some kind of personal survey needs to be performed by me - a hug , hand holding session , pat on the bum or checking if zipper works, whatever, but I'd be reluctant to tip anybody just because he asked.

I must say that in the room they always behave in this respect and can't recall even one situation when I would see the need to tell them to leave phone alone- believe me I'd be very fast to say that. But you are bringing good point about using it to make better connections with them. Always when I learn they have kids , wife , girlfriend or boyfriend I ask to show me their pictures and it universally brings smile to their faces. To gauge boy's attitude I use TV test. If we enter room and he looks for remote to turn the set before he asks me I know it will be so-so meeting. On another hand if he asks or even better doesn't even pat attention to the set I know I hit the right man.

I'm pretty sure that from time to time they have client who tries not to pay or chat them on agreed / standard amount. We got reports on forums about clients molesting boys in bars and leaving 20 baht tip so it may be the same behind closed door. On another hand unfortunately some boys may skip on their part of bargain as well. While my experience almost always was very good over years I had case of boy using every antic in the book to refuse to undress ( he is still in the business ) and two who agreed to long time and after hour or so all of the sudden need to leave because wrongly parked motorbike or something. Not to mention one of boys who bargained hard in the bar to get the best tip I ever paid and still at the time of payment of off fee he announced he must go with another customer . So it pays not to be too rosy eyed. But no need to get paranoid as well , In my opinion 80% of boys I offed did their best and rest bar those very few mentioned at least tried.

It used to be millennials who were glued to their phones but older generation is moving with times as well. There's small playground in front of my windows, grandmas use to watch kids playing while chatting and exchanging neighborhood gossip I presume. Those days chatter is quite reduced as every second one seem to be glued , yes , to their phones. Going to soi problems, in general I'm not against boys being glued to the screens as I see 3 advantages: - I can admire them without bothering with catching / avoiding unwanted eye contact - those who are not glued likely either have better service sense or are not affluent enough to have a phone so chances are they will be keener on approving their lot by accommodating client needs better - if boy glued to the screen raises his head and smiles and me , this is what I'm looking for - smile of an interest which those days is more important to me than his looks / most are good looking anyways / and bulge / it will develop shortly anyways /

it's very moving that they thought about inappropriate "happier" things in dog's behavior,often done in full view anyways . It upholds notion that Thailand is a land of FUN

when staying there I always use safety deposit boxers on reception. Box has two different keys , one is with you, another one is with reception. Never problem, actually it's fun to say there