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you are correct , I once hear that opinion voiced by nobody lesser then tenured university professor so what one can expect from truck driver or burger flipper

but they are pretty efficiently killing each other , enough to mention Iran-Iraq war or ISIS

I 'm glad you mentioned it , it's exactly my impression as well

this is only for donor to decide, he may have other motives that you mentioned and doesn't mind what boy does in his absence i.e. wants still to pay him for good times they have together or simply does it because it makes him feeling good helping some poor but tasty boy to have better life . It's like donations we make to worthy causes, we are never sure if our money goes to do good deeds in say, Burundi or simply goes to buy new mahogany desk for charity's president.

right beside you , it's called hand

I did not but one of my boys offed boys was pressing an issue of boyfriendhood at every turn. Sure , while after I left money request followed to invest in his business venture. I was sensible enough to to say flat 'no ' in both cases. Renting love in Thailand is an idea which appeals to some , I'm just going there for a sweet company, nothing more

obviously you were there so you know better , I did not mean to be harsh

I like ABBA's 'I believe in angels " better, specially with all those Thailand memories

so after all this discussion only answer we can give with certainty for a question "how much boys make?" is "not enough" , just like all of us.

like their communist brothers of old , they are just better ideologically motivated than the rest.

but they can still sleep well knowing there's somebody who does and willing to straighten them up at every turn labeling their posts ridiculous

it's why we should treat every answer with big grain of salt, sometimes they bet on pity understating their earning or frequency of offs, sometimes inflating what they make in order to extract higher tip. At other times their stories don't add up but I just take everything for a face value. And I don't think their clients are more sincere , we are probably as good in inventing stories serving our purpose.

it's why soi Thaniya , that street, is best way to cross from Silom to Surawong undisturbed by both girls and touts. And jeweler there has one of the best exchange rates as a bonus sometimes open well into a night.

I think it the same like in the beginning of 20th century - growing inequality. Then it was feeding communists , not it seems it does the same to a religious extreme

Don't read Firecat's , Jasper's and mine posts as criticism, rather as an instruction to readers how to avoid certain pitfalls inspired by your entry. One exception - sending boy home drunk, yes , with apologies but I don't like it for reasons explained and I'm glad you met him next day so nothing happened obviously . Whoever told you you are too generous with your tips, screw him , none of his business. Your pleasure , your money Waiting impatiently for a next installment

Gentlemen don't argue about facts

but we did not get any reports from you until now

as mention in another thread I had one of my 6 best massages ever at Sun but afters were very rushed and I did not see that boy again so I never repeat visit. Still I think it's worth a try. Never saw any of Tawan boys presented himself in front of Sun so i guess that only share name / Sun=Tawan in Thai / and perhaps ownership. I was told by somebody in the know that for short time Sun room may be used when offing Tawan boys

I guess when Obama 8 years ago was saying " yes we can" he did not envision such a choice forky123

Numazu I can't resist some comments about your last night adventures and perhaps we may even have a little discussion here. - Nothing wrong with crowding bed with two boys but I believe some rules must be adhered to in order to avoid awkward , it not outright unpleasant situations. If one takes boys from the same bar do not fall into 'you are customer , you are right " BS. Make sure that one boy approves both an idea of having other boy in the bed and takes primary role in selecting him as well as second boy is happy to go with the first one. In short tell first boy what you want , let him to do negotiations subject to your approval. From your narrative it looks that this was not done, you kind of hoisted Thai Boy on CB, he went with it on a 'customer first' principle but it did not work and could be even worse, last thing one needs is a scene in the room. Don't expect boys to say 'no' when you decide on something , this is cultural thing to avoid any unnecessary confrontation. On my last trip in Jun I had 4 nights of crowded bed , two of them were actually wholesome boy's conspiracy idea given to me just to stamp approval , other two followed prescription given above including crap when my primary boy changed his mind after deal was sealed costing me agreed 1500 tip for rejected boy who probably still things about stupid farang but I feel I did right thing. Since you wisely noticed that you contributed mightily to TB being drunk you could expect that things will not go as scripted. - Don't get me wrong but in my younger years I was heavy drinker and I grew up in a drinking culture , for me it is absolutely despicable to sent home person I was drinking with before he sobered up. Mothers of our generation, God let them rest in peace, in our drinking years always told us ' you get drunk , sleep there and come home when you sober up". Reading that part of your story got me so upset I gulped whole can of 7% Holstein German beer in one lift. I'm not criticizing you, just venting my frustration with way you handled it enforced by 7% of alcohol content in my beer. - As for tipping drunken boy I'd be more generous rationale being he got drunk with you. I'm not saying he got shortchanged though , after all as professionals they should watch their intake but one doesn't not expect 19 y.o. to be THAT smart or experienced. I wonder what others will have to say in those matters Waiting impatiently for a next installment

I can't wait to be in the first row of our congregation

Good to know your trademarks are intact and still in use

are you trying to tell us that one death is more or less tragic than another one? People usually do not choose to be at war , war comes to them. One of my closest friends arrived in Ankara for business yesterday morning , took a nap in the hotel to be woken to a sound of low flying aircraft and no so distant bombs. Thanks to technology we know at least that she is safe

Don't worry and keep typing. interesting read for people like me who don't frequent Jomtien's or as matter of fact any host bars

tea, loose leaf one , not teabag variety