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koko is right but credit it to your cool head wit not just a luck

I second everything Z909 says above, in fact I never had massage without option of happy ending being suggested / offered, not that I always used it, sometimes I'm just happy with body to body contact. But at times we have reports from various places that masseur was not interested in any extras, my guess would be no chemistry built up or it's due to patron' s cheapskate fame As for tipping z909 statement is even confirmed on ARENA's website as they say in minimum tip shower, massage and hand job is included and their min tip is 500 for 1 hr. massage. If you ask me, if I put my hands on his less accessible body parts and I always do, I never tip less than 1000 even if minimum tip suggested is less than that. I take abuse for spoiling market gladly.

don't worry , next taxi will appear in 37 seconds, reason to refuse to go to other side is that it's hard to get fare back at deep of night as Thonburi is not famous for night entertainment let us know how did you do in BKK

right, just make sure G-string is covered with jeans

Peninsula hotel is across the river from Saphan Taksin BTS station, convenient during day , not so much for night life but taxis are affordable in BKK , Taxi from airport should be 300-400 on the meter, public transport from airport stops at midnight so you have plenty of time, you should be out of immigration by 9 p.m., if you want economise and have a first shot at eye candy take train to Phaya Thai station, change there for BTS, change BTS at Siam to other line to Saphan Taksin and than short hop across the river. Enjoy while it lasts

you falled silent for a while so I was sure things are running well, thank you for update and good luck !

I always wait for him to make first move , if touches me here and there I follow with z909 advice and brush his whatever is close . Do not get discouraged it he is dressed , sometimes you think all is done and then explicit question or gesture arrives, it seems it depends on place's policy as koko noticed. Rest assured if boy is in for more action he will make sure to let you know somehow. Do not rush things even if you are horny - massage itself is very good so let him mutilate you a bit. Some boys who are more alpha -males may be naked from the start and still will not allow you to tough them until very late in the session. It's just teasing to warm you up.l In more mainstream places he may not allow you to tough him but to me it's pure theory - heard about it but never happened to me . In all places described in this thread you will have happy ending and as you see there's plenty of them to keep you occupied

best guide available: http://bangkokbois-gay-thailand-blog.com/2011/02/26/first-timers-guide-to-bangkok-gay-gogo-bars/

do they offer oil or cream massage? hard to be done without undressing for fear of soiling undergarments with greasy residue. It would be nice if somebody with first hand experience from both NYC and BKK would do some comparison report here

You are right, this I missed, Christian don't cut yourself short

I'm may be to soft hearted but just chalk duds off to experience and tip them what I usually tip unless there's total disaster which happened only once. But I don't negotiate anything preferring just to swim with the flow and see what happens so can use missed promise point to cut tip.

If you coming from USA your plane likely lads around midnight, keep in mind last trains from airport are leaving at midnight too so you may resign to taking taxi to whatever your destination is. Malaysia hotel is very good value choice but it may be too late to book at such a short notice-check Agoda. Colmx is right, hotels offer better value than hostels in BKK. If you are stuck try Niagara Hotel in Silom soi 9, should be less than 800 / night, Om Yim at 1100 is dearer but better value , both walking distance to Silom

Not that it's important but I never visited that Board, should I regret I miss something or rather not?

Can you really have 1 -1 1/2 hr massage with 2 naked guys for 90$ in NYC? Just asking Yes 1500 tip per guy will include full monty providing chemistry will be right

don't worry about transportation at night, Bangkok is one of those cities who never sleep Public transport stops around midnight but taxis are available round clock and don't cost a fortune, jus make sure they turn meter on or if they refuse wait for next one. In May during torrential rain at 4 a.m. it took only 2 minutes for taxi to appear, go figure

one boy is fucking girl while another boy is watching TV I guess that's mixed threesome

I failed to recognize female but console myself that in any case my choice would be number 1 , one in dark glasses. thank you z909 for very entertaining thread

I like hunks better

enjoy your trip whenever you are going, why anybody can get heated about such a subject like changing ownership of Ambiance beats me

I had it too, short of baht at night tipped boy 100 USD, Week later offed him again and he was still holding to that bill and asked it I can exchange for 3000 baht, rate then was close to 32 so it was loss to him of almost 200 bht. I'm not aware about any restrictions for Thais to change money and we me twice before so I doubt he suspected me on passing him fake bill but I was new type of 100 $ so may be he thought is not genuine or not American.

Right, we don't even know how our own ass looks like

YESSSSS !!

So which hotel you finally picked up? Planning vacation is almost as exciting like vacations itself but don't over do it , whatever you will do in Bangkok you will never be bored Chatuchak is only worth visiting on weekend and idea of going there early is very sensible as it becaomes hot and crowded as day goes. A must in Bankgok is Grand Palace and Wat Po nearby, Vinamek and Throne Hall, taking boat from SAphan Taksin BTS to Grand Palace. I also suggest Snake Farm , right opposite of Soi Twilight. Patpong is great night market and I like it at deep night when they start winding it down - lots of shirtless boys working on dis-assembly of stalls,Has only one gay bar -Screwboys. Soi Twilight across the Suriwong from Patpong is the center of gay entertainment with 7 bars and I suggest you try to visit all of them plus Jupiter and Tawan.

Alexx, somebody on reception probably thought that is market for every age / I guess it's a while since you got your first driving license /

I think I know who owns Ambiance now, it's owner. And I'm sure he / she likes this thread as it gives some exposure to that friendly hotel's name