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Oops my apologies! Thank you for the reminder and for the link.

Has anyone experienced this place? Some really great looking guys on their website. Just wondering if it’s full service or HJ only. https://klovermassages.com/en?fbclid=IwY2xjawKqrftleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFVVFo5ZEJSU1FVVFdaV1J1AR59z237cTOO2795ragDOlxTY-UNxp0RRbN5ba0llTsF55nFf6-9jD1UhC-U4Q_aem_KW0bel6XnI2pQKY460xC0Q

@12is12, since the bar is quite clear about their “no photos” policy, I’m wondering if there is some reason that you felt you should be exception to that rule.

Actually I have been a member since 2016.

Thanks everyone for the updates

Yes and yes.

I too find it a bit annoying, but I try to look at it like this: This is how these guys earn their living. These guys are older, some are married and have children. Some rarely get offs but they are working “hard” to entertain you there in the bar. Unfortunately in recent years, they have had to become accustomed to Chinese tourists who never tip, never buy them a drink, and rarely off them. Or to tourists who are happy to see them walking around naked with a hard on, happy to grope them, and think that it’s free. Unfortunately, if they don’t ask for tips they probably won’t get any. i live in Bangkok and I go there a few times a year. I know that it’s going to be a little expensive. I take a small roll of hundred baht notes and I tip for services rendered. I’m also very comfortable saying no to requests for tips for no reason. I buy a few drinks and I spend a little money. In return I know that I’m going to be treated very well and receive very personalised attention.

Yes that’s him.

What a delightful surprise when I wandered into the new club called Atlas in Patong Soi 2 last night. Big spacious bar, well lit stage right in the center, everything modern and comfortable. And there on the stage were all of the boys from The One / Tawan. They have all quit The One, and are now working at Atlas, which just opened a few days ago. The bar is owned by Arthur, who long time Tawan patrons will remember as the big mixed Black/Asian bodybuilder from Tawan days. As frequent visitors will know, The One never regained the atmosphere of Tawan; it became stale and less inviting, and the show was tame and uninteresting. By contrast, Atlas last night was fun, lively and uninhibited. At least 25 guys, all the top talent from Tawan plus a few new faces. All muscular and fit, if not necessarily lean. These are big muscular men. None of the older fat guys that had come to haunt Taiwan a few years ago were in sight. Fortunately, those days seem to be behind us. The show is back to being hard core and explicit, with lots of audience interaction. Sound and lighting are top notch. The show could have been a little longer, but they just opened a few days ago. I go there to have fun in the bar, not necessarily looking for an off. The guys were friendly, affectionate, and uninhibited. I don’t drink much but I opened a bottle to help them celebrate. I was soon surrounded by guys who, for a tip, were happy to take off their pants and sit with me and drink naked. I’m a bit of a voyeur, so after the show I convinced several of them to also do their rotations on stage stark naked. What a treat. Service was excellent. Arthur seems to be a very competent manager. No admission charge. Drinks were 500 baht, which is steep but worth it to me given the environment. All in all, highly recommended. I hope they can make it a success.

I generally go to a massage shop that has straight muscular guys, choose one I like, and then in the room I announce that I will be massaging them. They are often taken aback at first, but with gentle encouragement, I have never had anyone refuse. I massage them for 5 minutes or so, accidentally brushing up against their cock until they are hard. At that point I edge them very slowly until they are moaning and squirming, stop, then start again. I repeat as necessary until they eventually explode.

I’ve been there a couple of times recently. I can firm: Rough trade, but with excellent service.

By the way Vinapu, is your Khun X the same Khun X that used to work Tawan massage, and occasionally in Tawan Bar? I would love to catch up with him — best massages ever.

Quick question about Phuket. We’re any of the bars open in Soi Paraduse?

Funny, I had dinner at Bitterman last week with friends; the service and the food were both quite good....

Yes, naked -- as in fully stark naked, full monty, whatever you want to call it. Some of the guys still work out every day and are quite buff, a couple of others not so much so.