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December Chiang Mai Report - 2nd day
 
Thanks for the positive feedback and and glad that you enjoyed my descent into decadance on the first day, and just keeps getting better!  I start my 2nd day trying to get to a Segway tour and find out quickly that Uber can’t find this DAMN condo/hotel!  I learn very quickly that if you decide to stay at The Prestige walk to the main road in front of 71 Export and the drivers will not be circling trying to find a Soi that does not exist …
 
After finally getting my Uber I make it to the Segway tour in Old City and am relieved that I am not too late.  I have always wanted to try one of these out and had a complete blast!  I am so bummed that my Christmas wish did not come true when I did not have one if these under the tree … I must have been bad LOL!
 
After the Segway I walked around the Old City a bit and found my way to Bubble’s Massage.  Now I already knew that this massage shop did not offer any “extras” in my research, I just wanted to relax a bit and escape the heat and the cost seemed reasonable.  I found it funny that all the Thai’s around me were bundled up and were complaining it was cold and I was roasting due to not being used to so much humidity.  Amazing, there was already 2 feet of snow at home in front of my house and below freezing.
 
Bubble’s is a clean shop, though I found it a bit strange there was an older lady in the lobby doing alterations and welcoming customers for a gay oriented business … but hey on vacation and need to keep an open mind just not what I am used to seeing.  The guy comes down to greet me and he is very handsome, great smile, possibly mid 30’s with a nice stocky average build, YUM.  God help me, at this point I feel like a horny teenager again, there are so many great looking Thai men walking around this city to look at!!
 
We go upstairs and there is not a shower available this time, luckily I have not been out in the heat that long so feel it’s ok.  Explain that I wanted a medium swedish style massage and he seemed to understand, though not sure.  The room has several beds with curtains in between.  The beds are higher this time like a western massage table, but still just a pillow.  I did miss the regular massage tables during my stay in Thailand as I could not seem to find a comfortable position at any of the shops I visited.  Had a pretty good massage for the most part and the cost was 800 bht for the 2 hours and no requirement for a tip.  No happy ending, which I expected and he remained fully clothed.
 
Now onto the tip part, I only left him 100 bht tip which he seemed OK with.  He did do a pretty good massage, however being early afternoon he was the only one there and his attention to his cell phone and chatting with the lady from downstairs intermittently totally irritated me so it was not as relaxing as I had hoped.  As soon as I started getting into the zone I was brought back by the pinging of his Planetromeo app that he was replying to, or the lady from downstairs asking him questions.  Even though the massage was decent I did not return during my stay because of this.
 
Still with a few hours to kill before meeting the 1st local guy I had been chatting with on Planetromeo I headed to the Nimman area and found Ristr8to coffee lab.  This place can challenge the best coffee I have had anywhere in the states, and yes the last few years I have become quite a coffee snob!  I ordered an Irish coffee with whiskey and rum and another tube coffee with bourbon, Irish cream and rum …. OH WOW, I so miss the coffee shops in Chiang Mai!!
 
Back to the condo, cleaned up to be prepared for what I hoped would be a good fuck for the first time since I was younger and was not disappointed!  The guy messages me on Line that he is out front and lost, damn condo, so I go down to find him.  He is out on the main road in front of the long term rentals they offer.  He looks just like his picture, only a bit skinnier and shorter than I was picturing in my head.
 
He greets me with a beautiful smile and we head for the condo.  He says he is 40, but sure does not look like it to me … I think to myself, what are these men eating over here to preserve themselves so well, I have to be doing something wrong!  As soon the elevator doors close he pretty much pins me to the back wall, grabs my cock through my jeans and starts kissing me.  Well this is starting way better than expected!
 
The doors open and we shock an older chinese woman and she giggles a bit as we exit. What has gotten into me??  We head down the hall to the room and he continues with the constant attention unfazed by what just happened.  When we enter I was barely able to lock the door and clothes start flying everywhere, immediately and we don’t make it past the kitchen!
 
More kissing and groping and I have to stop for a moment to just look at this beautiful man!  He is mostly smooth, very skinny with a RIPPED swimmers build, 8 pack abs, BEAUTIFUL darker complexion and I later find out at dinner he is ½ Thai and ½ Chinese.   He has a beautiful uncut (here we go again LOL) cock that is about 7 inches, thinner than average with plenty of foreskin to play with, and some nice sized balls, oh heaven!!  I am thinking to myself this is the perfect beginner size cock!  We start at it again and eventually get to suck that beautiful cock and he also returns the favor after a bit of fun.  
 
He then spins me around bending me over the counter quickly and starts rimming me like there is no tomorrow, WOW.  We then make it to the couch and he has me on my back kissing more then down to sucking my pecs and the cock again.  He then lifts my legs, bends me in half and starts tongue fucking me once again and I am getting more turned on by the second.  He then replaces his tongue with his finger, then another, then his tongue for a bit more.  By this time I am now bent over the coffee table totally enjoying the attention.
 
I then realize something … OH WOW, the curtains are wide open for anyone to watch our little show, thank god we are on 7th floor!  I pause and point that out and we just start laughing as we close the drapes and head upstairs to the bedroom.  It doesn’t take long before we are back at it full steam on the bed, desk, chair and floor … WOW, if I knew that Thai men would be this passionate I would have visited sooner!
 
As soon as we think I am loosened up enough he pushes me on the bed again on my back, my favorite position as a top, he must be reading my mind, condom and lube in a flash and we are ready to give it a go.  He slowly enters a bit and waits for me to get used to it.  It didn’t hurt nearly as bad as I had remembered but still was not very comfortable.  Easing in more and more and then feel his balls on my ass and then slowly starts to fuck.  From experience of being a top, I can tell immediately he knows exactly what he is doing and it doesn’t take him long to find the right position to start hitting my prostate.
 
Unfortunately my prostate is not sensitive, but I can tell that it is bringing up the pressure in my cock and am loving the body contact and damn, this guy is a great kisser!  As soon as I am no longer in pain I tell him to go for it, however he would like and go at it we did, in several positions and places around the bedroom.
 
He fucked like a pro for I am guessing at least 30 minutes, at this point I am getting uncomfortable but still having fun and thinking that I am not going to be able to take this much longer when he says, I ready and pulls off the condom and shoots his load all over the front of me.  Awesome large load and then another surprise, he is not done.  He then starts sucking my cock, then up to scoop up some cum with his tongue for another great kiss to share his load.
 
He starts going back down, sucking on my nipples and playing with my belly button swirling some of the cum inbetween and then goes back down on my cock.  This time however his technique has changed and it has to be one of the top 5 best blow jobs I have had.  As I get closer I forewarn him that I cum a lot like he did and that seems to make him even more eager so it doesn’t take long for me to shoot.  
 
He doesn't miss a drop and continues to go at it for a bit longer until I am way too sensitive to continue and then comes up for another kiss to share our rewards!  In all we just spent the last several hours going at it and collapse for a bit to cuddle.  WOW, how lucky I am feeling at this point, a TRUE TOP for my first long fuck session that doesn't lose interest after cumming!  
 
Admiring this beautiful man beside me I am thinking to myself that I really needed to re-evaluate my position on what what turns me on as I have not really been attracted to twink/swimmer built men in the past, I generally melt for a stockier guy. This is probably due to my experiences here in the states where most of the ripped hot men I have been with were terrible in bed and had attitude and that is an instant turn off for me.
 
We then realize that we are both starving, hop up to take a nice shower together which leads to more kissing, groping and fun and then out the door for food and some great conversation.  I wanted to check out Steak Bar at the locals night market down the street near the University.  I was a bit uncomfortable at first when we start walking, as he wants to hold hands and think OK, I am just going to follow his lead, he lives here and knows the culture better than I do.  No one seems to even notice and the only place that has ever happened to me was in the Castro!
 
If you have never been to Steak Bar I would suggest that you seek this place out!  It has to be one of the best steaks I have had since Morton’s earlier in the year visiting Las Vegas and everything is extremely well priced.  We also ordered 2 other pasta dishes to share that were very good as well.  The chef’s presentation was absolutely beautiful and you can tell he really loves what he does.  The only downside was they do not serve wine or beer so if you like that with dinner like I do, pop into the 7-11 right around the corner on the way.
 
After, we walk off dinner seeing the sights of the night market and he is instructing me how to buy and what not to.  I didn’t check bags so I did not purchase much, but did get a few nice fake Ray Bans as I crushed mine on the plane.  We checked out several places until he found just the right ones for me and honestly, I can’t tell they are fake and if I remember correctly they were 300 bht for both.
 
We then head back to the condo for our goodbyes for the evening.  I nice makeout session at the side of the building while he gets everything on his motorcycle … OH THIS MAN just keeps pushing the right buttons, this is no scooter but a very nice bullet bike and it makes him look even sexier climbing on!  Thinking to myself I wonder if he would let me fuck that beautiful ass as he rides off!!  Luckily I was able to see him again later in the week for a repeat before leaving.
 
Well end of day 2 and things keep looking better, why the hell did I wait so long to visit this wonderful country??

Thanks guys ... I am glad that I did not immediately piss off someone with my western tipping practices.  I am not rich by any means and had to save up for this trip but I also work a service based job and when I receive great service, I try to pass along the word to others and also tip well.  I will do my best to keep writing about the week.  It’s been fun remembering and will be nice to go back and read it a few years from now … I am totally coming back to Thailand this December, maybe try my luck with Bangkok this time??
 

I have been a lurker here since the fall of last year planning this trip and want to thank everyone that posted about their advice and experiences, all of the suggestions were spot on!  I thought I should return the favor so here is a bit about my visit and descent into decadence.
 
I visited Chiang Mai during Christmas for 8 days and had an absolute blast.  The sights, sounds, the food, and the AWESOME people I met during my stay were everything I expected and much more.  It was very easy and inexpensive to get around the city and I primarily used Uber and Grab.  I stayed at The Prestige near Maya Mall and the staff were extremely nice and I had ZERO issues having a guests over for fun on multiple occasions with no surprise joiner fees when I checked out.
 
I had great luck meeting several locals using Planetromeo about a month or so in advance, and one tourist on Hornet.  I was very surprised that I received so much attention from the non-money boys being in my early 50’s.  I am in OK shape with a bit of a belly and decent looking, but nothing compared to the 30 - 40 year old Thai guys that I met during my stay … they were absolutely beautiful men to look at, but more than their appearance they were extremely nice guys which made it even more of a turn on and have kept in contact with both since my visit via Line.
 
I am a total top, but decided that this trip I was going to explore being bottom the entire time and try to experience more of what I thought I had been missing, all of the encounters were good to excellent.  All were very patient and very passionate with lots of foreplay.  I did not have one hurried encounter, just the way I like it only this time I was on the receiving end of things.  
 
I advised all that I met in advance that bottom was something I had only tried a few times in my youth and they were all very understanding and were very excited to show me the way, and show me the way they did in multiple positions and places around the condo that I had never thought of using as a top and will now!  Aren’t new learning experiences for old dogs like most of us great?   
 
I can’t remember who told me years ago that Thai men have smaller than average cocks but they obviously had never visited the country as I found that most of my encounters were average to well above that and WOW, I just love the look and feel of uncut cock!  Maybe it was beginners luck, but if so what great luck I had!
 
I never did make it up to Adam’s Apple and wish that I would have taken the time see the shows.  I did visited 3 massage shops and had very good to excellent massages, however the hand jobs were just so so compared to the men I met online and one not at all.  The first and best of these experiences is detailed below.
 
The first day was very long day of sightseeing outside the city at a few National Parks, day markets and open air restaurants.  The best place (tourist wise) was the Kings Gardens as I got back to the city, just stunning at dusk!  I visited Classic House Massage that evening for my first ever happy ending massage to end the perfect day out.  People say you always remember your first good or bad and I totally agree with that statement. WOW this guy knew what he was doing and was the best massage I have ever received, and I have had a lot of regular massages due to a motorcycle accident I had in my late 20’s.  
 
I was a bit nervous as I had never entertained the idea of paying for sex before and think the manager could tell, but he was quite patient helping me try to pick the right guy.  I told him that I generally prefer older men in their 30’s - 50’s (less drama here in the states in my experience with hookups), and that I wanted 2 hours with the focus to be mostly on a great swedish style massage, but would not mind some fun at the end.  Most of the pictures he was showing me were a bit too twinky for me.  He then states, NO PROBLEM, I have guy for you and you have GREAT MASSAGE … I am now thinking to myself, OK what the hell have I got myself into here but decide I am NOT GOING to chicken out after traveling this far!  
 
He then promptly scurrys off to retrieve the guy as I think he senses my hesitation and brings back this late 20-something completely smooth muscle dude about 6 feet tall in nothing but a skimpy pair of boxer briefs several sizes too small that he must have borrowed from one of the skinny twinks in the photos, and also looking to be packing something pretty nice.  I am now thinking to myself WTF just go with the flow this is going to be fun.  Looking back now, I have no idea why I was so uptight about this!  A short shower and ready to go…
 
This guy was a total pro with EXCELLENT massage skills and within minutes I was totally in the zone of knowing this massage was going to be a great one.  This was also the first time that I tried an oil massage and was loving the new experience of that as well.  I would say about 30 or so minutes into the massage it takes an interesting turn and becomes way more sensual with lots of touching areas I have never experienced during a massage .. it was a total turn-on and he knew exactly what buttons to push!  
 
After a long while massaging and teasing me he has me turn over, I notice that he had removed the boxer briefs at some point and HOLY SHIT, he is hard as a rock and his cock had to be a minimum of 8.5 inches, a beautiful helmet covering part of the head, and quite thick!  Did I mention that I LOVE uncut cock before??  
 
He says, I keep massage and you touch … well I don’t have to be told twice with an invitation like that!  And the massage continues just as good on the front only way more fun now that I am able to play with this beautiful guy’s cock along the way.  Then suddenly I realize something, DAMNIT … HOW THE FUCK am I supposed to enjoy a regular massage after this experience!!  Just the thought of this makes me hard!
 
Now after the best massage I have ever had along with playing with this beautiful cock, he now starts to play with my cock a bit more and says I top you now?  Not really expecting that I was brought straight back to reality looking at that huge cock that I can barely wrap my hand around and thinking could I really take that, it could be fun to at least try right?  Then I look at all the oil everywhere and realize there is zero possibility that this is going to happen safely with a condom and say sorry no, just hand job.
 
So he proceeds on and I am then very surprised as this guy has some serious massage skill how awkward he seems to be with a hand job.  REALLY, what just happened here??  Then I remember some of the stories on this forum … WOW it just hits me that this guy is probably STR8, another new experience but not a bad one!  I finally start getting bored with how bad he is at this part and tell him to massage my balls and ass and take matters into my own hand, then all the sudden everything is back to massage mode and heading right back into the zone.  
 
This guy needs to go to school to become a urologist, within seconds he zones in on my prostate while still massaging my balls and within a short time I am ready CUM and warn him a few times.  But he does not move and I shoot a massive load everywhere, on both of us, which catches him by surprise how much there is and we both start laughing.  I always shoot allot and hard when edging, but I was even a bit surprised by how much.
 
We start to clean up and ask if the 2 hours up and he says no and sits up against the wall pats his chest for me to lean up against those beautiful pecs and he starts massaging my head, neck and shoulders.  Again I am totally taken back at what a pro this guy is, I give this str8 guy a cum shower and he doesn’t miss a beat.  
 
After we are done I shower alone, bummer was hoping to extend that a bit more and then go to pay.  The cost was 1200 bht for the massage and 1000 bht minimum tip.  Really the only thing that I can remotely complain about is the hard mat and pillow.  I am used to a regular massage table, not a mat on the floor, but that is so minor and in the days following I never see a proper western style massage table at the other 2 places either.
 
I know that there will be someone that is going to be pissed about this after reading some of the comments on here, but I l gave him an additional 1000 bht tip and he was very happy with that!  It was worth EVERY BAHT and still less than I have paid in states for a great massage without the happy ending and tip!  I have not CUM THAT HARD in years and after that experience there was NO WAY I was leaving there without tipping extremely well!  So that was my 1st happy ending massage and will always remember it fondly …
 
So there was my first day, probably TMI for some.  Feedback is welcome, I will write about the other places visited, massages and the local Thai guys if you all would like to hear about it.
 

I think the Bar vs. App thing is like Going to a Restaurant vs. Staying home to cook.  
 
If you go to a restaurant, you get to enjoy the ambience of the surroundings, mingle with a few people at the bar while you wait, enjoy the offerings that only a professional chef can get you.  Yes, the $5 glass of coca cola your ordered is only 50 cents at the grocery store, but you pay for the service and the surroundings and its always a nice way to spend a couple of hours.
 
If you stay home to cook, you can do it anytime you want. You can get all the ingredients for cheaper and it will all depend on your skill of cooking.  Sometimes you get a crap meal because you cooked the veggies too long or you weren't clear on the directions of the meal. But if you do it right, you can get a fairly satisfying meal for way less than you would pay at a restaurant, and you are not under the whim of the restaurant's open times.
 
I went to DreamBoy last night and my final bill was 1600 baht. This was for my drink, the boy's drink, and the off fee. This does not include the actual tip for the boy who arguably is the main attraction of the whole evening. To a lot, that  money amount sounds outrageous. But to me, it is a small price for the following reasons:
 
1. They seated me up in front because one of the mamasans know me and he knew I liked to see those 50+ boys gyrate in front of me. I could see every birthmark, penis size through those skimpy briefs, abs up close etc. Those boys saw me right away and would smile to try to entice. I like that kind of interaction. Some would extend a hand to shake mine to initiate contact. I love the super skimpy briefs they wear in Dream Boy. A lot were new boys I have not seen before. Very good looking lot.
2. I got to talk to said mamasan who knows exactly what kind of boys I liked. We got caught up with life while waiting on the show, and he gave me updates on some boys I've offed in the past who are not working there anymore. He helped choose my boy.
3. When I chose my boy, he sat with me, and he immediately got flirty trying to make the sale. I could get a feel for his abs, his bulge. I could smell his scent. And he would hold my hand while watching the show. Easily the highlight of the evening.
4. And of course there is the actual show.
 
Is it worth 1600 baht for all this? To some probably not. To me, it's fine. But I am a mere tourist, and don't get to do this often enough, so paying is not an issue at all.
 
Now for the apps. I've never used the apps for money boys, BUT, I use it plenty to access the fairly sizable gay tourist base of Bangkok (less so Pattaya, more MB, less tourists). This trip, I've met two Chinese tourists in town for Chinese New Year. They were both my type, and I was able to hook up with them on off hours, usually after lunch or when my long time boy has left in the morning. It is wonderful to have this option when the bars are closed.
 
Moral of the story: both are great. If I used apps all the time, I would save so much money. But I've also had my share of duds with using the apps. My Bangkok evenings seem stale if I did not have a boy bar to go to. But I can see the dollars come out of my ass when I do go to the boy bars. Your mileage may vary.

I like both. I like the bars, the apps, the beach and meeting guys out in public. It's a smorgasbord.

Massage
 
Chivaroma, one of the male massage shops in Second Road near Boyztown has some quite cute guys outside. I had a number of very good treatments there only one of which was an oil massage with straight forward HE but nothing to write home about regarding the afters.
 
Also on second road near Boyztown, I walked past Heaven massage one evening and was accosted by a male masseur. He seduced me into a session (always a good start I find); a great massage and a very good happy ending with both of us naked. Afterwards he gave me his contact details but I didn't follow up as ordinarily he wouldn't have been my type.
 
But the prize of best experience goes to Fah Massage in Jomtien. I find most of the guys here pretty attractive but one in particular always took the time to come and give me hug went I walked past. Eventually I succumbed to his charms and I really wish I'd done so earlier!
 
The combination of real massage skill combined with sensuality; the second time was even better, with me on the edge almost from the start. A really beautiful sensual and sexual experience. I could almost be falling in love (certainly lust) with this guy! I do have his contact details and we are in touch but I'm wary of starting anything after my last experience. It's often said on this board that if you want love in Thailand, better to rent and sadly I think that's probably true.
 
I didn't try what I think is called Soda Massage. Some interesting guys for sure but their location is slightly awkward in that you can't really walk past and have a discreet look without ending up with the hard sell. Blue Angel seem to have pretty well given up. Only one or two guys outside normally and sometimes none at all.
 
 
Apps
 
A boy contacted me on grindr. Claimed to have a certificate in massage and offered to come and help me get to sleep. Seemed an unmissable opportunity so half an hour later, he was knocking on my door.
 
His massage was indeed really good. A full hour passed before things got more intimate which ended up with him topping me in a variety of different positions - a really nice intense and pleasurable experience. He seemed happy with 1000b and went on his way, leaving me to enjoy one of the best night's sleep this break.
 
Another 22 year old guy contacted me on grindr. Said he wasn't a money boy but needed help with the rent. I invited him over and what he lacked in stature, he made up in enthusiasm and vigour. An excellent BJ I have to say and lots of kissing and cuddling. Well worth 1000b.
 
A few other timewasters, plus a guy who wouldn't travel to me (and I'm wary of that) and a guy I had a good time with on my last visit who I somehow managed to piss off by not contacting him the moment I arrived. We never seemed to recover from that position despite my best endeavours.
 
Worst experience was a guy who I met once on my last visit and to whom I sent some money I could afford to lose to help with rent. Thereafter I have had plea after plea which I refused. I did meet him again this time, fed him, took him to the cinema, back to my room whereupon he made no effort whatsoever. After 30 mins. I decided to cut my losses and sent him on his way with the motorcy money. The next three days he sent message after message saying he was being evicted and needed money. So many deserving cases in this world but I don't feel he is one.
 
 
Bars
 
I popped into Niceboys a couple of times. I did find it all a bit sad to be honest. I'd feel more comfortable if they looked like they were enjoying it - perhaps that's too much to ask. But I did call down a couple of guys, brought them drinks, chatted to them in a mixture of Thai and English, tipped them and sent them back. Just not my kind of place I guess but each to his own.
 
I sat in Rainbow Bar (also Sunee) and found one of the bar guys pretty hot. I was leaving early on a trip the next morning so didn't off him, but gave him my number and asked if he worked there every day, which he said he did. I made three return visits and he was nowhere to be seen and no contact made. Always necessary to strike while the iron is hot in Thailand I find.
 
Sitting in Rainbow gives you a good view of Winner opposite. Quite regularly some of the guys come outside for a cigarette. They need to eat more for my liking, but most of the ones I saw clearly worked out regularly. I didn't visit the bar based on what I saw outside (albeit only the smokers) but the drink prices are amazingly low.
 
The Jomtien bars have previously been my favourite haunts but not on this occasion. I walked through several times and struggled to find anyone I'd be interested in which is not the case on previous visits.
 
In Boy Gaga one of the quieter bars, I bought one of the guys a drink but he didn't bother to sit with me and preferred to chat with his friends. Not my idea of a host bar. They badly need to get some new guys as the previous good ones seem to have moved on.
 
Bamboo Bar puzzles me. I don't see any desire on behalf of the staff to encourage customers. I tried it out one evening and was again left on my own for 20 minutes before one of the guys came and spoke to me. He was new. The others couldn't have really cared less.
 
Eating
 
I've generally had good food at Kiss (both branches, although the staff are very miserable at the Pattaya one), Pan Pan, Mai's kitchen, Wooden box, the fish stall outside Kiss in Jomtien, the Sketch Arts Café and Sandbar. Although this isn't a culinary forum, I'd be interested in other tips for eating too.
 
Again, I've had a great time here overall. Hope I've given some useful info on some of the less obvious HE massage venues. I'd certainly be interested in others' experiences.

"I was shocked, a little surprised and confused at the same time, I was like “He is telling me now, at 2:35am??” not even mentioned once while we were hanging out whole night?
 
 
Immediately I calmed myself down and didn’t show him that I was annoyed..."
 
Vinapu it is clear that newscene was not happy with the boy behavior and he didn't fulfill his expectations so why pay the full fee ???
The boy was clearly trying to avoid having sex he could leave only less than one hour more for sex but he we was stubborn not to do so it's not a honest behaviour from the boy so why paying him the full fee ?
If newscene wanted a partner for dancing he could go straight to the club hung out with one of the boys there pay for his drinks and maybe give him at the end couple hundreds Baht as tip but surely he wouldn't take a boy from a bar pay for drinks and bar fees just for dancing...
 
I am very honest man and I met many boys in Thailand I am very generous to the ones that was good with me but I can be very stubborn to boys that wasn't. I just want to see what happened if the opposite happened if newscene said to V that he enjoyed the time with him but doesn't want sex with him so he's paying only 500 Baht for his time ,the Vietnamese boy surely will not be amused with that ...

Because i cant write in english properly so i just can give this simple trip report (although the real experience is not that simple) just hope you people not laugh...LOL..
 
Yesterday (08/01) arrived at don mueang airport around 3.30pm due to flight delayed almost 1 hour (you know airasia is suck)..
Not many people at checkpoint just groups of mainland china who cant read signboard properly and always jumping que.
30 minute later i already go out from the airport.try to take taxi service at the counter and the price is 850Baht from airport to silom and i think its ridiculous..so i jump to public bus to mochit and from there take MRT direct to silom totally cost me only 73Baht.
 
Checkin at my regular hotel nantra silom for 5d4n (cost 3080Baht after discount from expedia)..the girl at receptionist never smile as always..maybe she hate her job..maybe she need quit her job and become gogo girls..LOL..
 
After take dinner at one fine muslim restaurant in silim road i went to patpong night market to buy t shirt and some souveniour for relatives and friends.
 
Than go to TAWAN as always..mamasan there (a man with glasses) quickly recognized me..because i always tipping him..not many boys at stage most of them just lying at sofa infront stage like one of member of this forum quote "like sea whale lying at the rock"..all familiar face but i never left tawan alone so i pick kong,handsome muscular hunk..i offed him one time before so he know me and know what i want..its make things easy for both us.
 
Just short time and i tipping him 2000Baht as always and he rush back to tawan because need to attend show at 10.45pm..i take shower and sleep.
 
DAY 2 (09/01)
 
Today i planned to go to national museum but after google some information its closed on monday and tuesday so i canceled the plan..than i plan to visit wat arun but also cancelled because feel no mood today..maybe tomorrow..i dont want visit wat pho or grand palace because already went there on my last visit to bangkok 1 year ago..so i just rest at my room watching tv with all thai language program even english movies they translate to thai..LOL..
 
At 5pm,i got some idea to visit arena massage at silom plaza (only 10 minute walk from nantra)..only 7 masseurs there when i arrived although almost all muscular but their face is not my type LOL..only one have cute face with nice body and a tatto at his left chest..his name is don or ton or something sound like that.
 
Massage session is 1.5 hour and his massage skill is so so..but this handsome boy is very quite and look shy but he got a very big cock..first time i see giant dick like that..so the happy ending is good and i tiping him 1500B (minimum tips is 1000Baht) and he look happy with that amount.
 
Suddenly i got idea to ask him coming to my hotel tomorrow morning-so i no need to pay fee at massage center- but its very hard to talk about my idea to this boy because he cant understand even a simple english so we use google translate LOL..and he agreed to come to my hotel tomorrow morning before he start work at arena at 12pm..
 
So now i just rest at my room typing this trip report before sleep and wait tomorrow to see my handsome boy with giant cock..

On to the main event – Offer Nissim, White Party, Bangkok. My friends arrive at 23:48. I stay cool and just rush them to go as quick as possible. We enter the venue just to see that a show just ended and the club is full, dark and no music is on. This is classic Ofra – keep the crowd in the dark for several minutes and wait for her. I was very happy since that meant we did not miss her appearance. The music start, I recognize the intro immediately from last TLV pride. 2 minutes later when she appears the crowd is shouting and gives her a really really warm welcome. Show starts. She plays most of her new songs with some classics. I can write about it a lot, analyzing her choice of songs, and songs that she did not choose to play, but the only person this will be interesting to is myself, so I will spare you the text. My straight friends enjoy her music as well. They say that although the club is packed and sweaty it is way better crowd than a straight party. An hour later the wife gets tired and they leave. I am by myself, going to the VIP platform. I find a nice spot, and just dance to my favorite DJ, in favorite city and feel happy. I spot several Israeli Ofra queens in the crowd. It was especially easy to spot when she put on one Hebrew song and to look for people that sing along.
 
V came about half an hour later. He knows what Ofra is for me and we dance together. Dancing with him to Ofra feels nice, especially in some of the sexy song. Same drill as yesterday – he dances in front so everybody sees him, me at his back holding him, touching. I know the lyrics for all the songs. When a sexy song comes along, I whisper him the words slowly from behind, while touching his sweaty, shredded, body as he moves with the slow and sexy beats. This was a great party. Half an hour before the end we get off the platform and shove our way to the front line. We make friends with 4 Israeli Lesbians and dance. We dance, sing, touch, and stay front line till the end. She puts my favorite song for last: Alone. I have a really nice video that shows the crowd's reaction for her finish but I cannot seem to be able to upload videos here. So we will settle for this poor video that she herself uploaded that probably one of her fans sent her. Sound starts only after 30 seconds for unknown reason. 3AM Show ends – the queen bows and leaves the stage. The crowd gives an enormous amount of love.  This was a too short set, but nonetheless, a really great one. We are front line when the party ends – which should mean a long wait until everybody exits. But, V uses his authority to get us out from backstage. I try to look if the queen is there but she is already gone. 10 minutes later we are already in the room. V suggests we go to an after party (in Israel an after party after an Offer Nissim party is called After Ofra). He says that there is a nice music and play party at his friend's apartment. That is cool by me and tell him I do not want to go to sleep after 6AM so that tomorrow does not get totally messed up.
 
So we start getting ready for the After Ofra at my room. V says that it is an underwear party which means everybody stays in their underwear. I then give V a sexy jock strap to wear that I brought from home. I do not wear them myself so that I don't mislead any potential men to think that they have a chance fucking me. I brought them with me to BKK because I like fucking guys in them. I put some sexy underwear myself. I drink another beer, V takes another E, and we leave. On the way there he has some requests that he presents for me:
 
1.       Don't play with the host, who is his friend. This was a very funny request since the host is a very unattractive man and I was surprised that V thought that there was a chance that I will want to play with him.
2.       Avoid fucking. He said that he doesn't mind that I play with people but it will be hard on him to see me fuck someone.
3.       If anyone asks – we are a couple.
 
I find the requests a little funny, but I get what stands behind them, and I assure him that I'm OK with what he needs. I must state that these sort of parties are usually not my cup of tea. Not because I don't like sex parties – sex and music is really my thing. But because these parties usually turn into Chem-Sex parties which turns me off a little. Especially if the more serious drugs are involved.
 
We arrive at the After Ofra probably at about 4AM. There are about 20 men in that amazing and beautiful Bangkok luxury apartment. Men are mostly hot. But my guy is the hottest there and of course gets a lot of attention. He teases other guys, lets them touch him, and then comes back to me. Some guys actually come to me and ask if they can play with him, a situation that I found really funny. My reply was always, just ask V, I am not his owner. I find some guys at the balcony to play and smoke with (also a combination that I like). Party goes on, at my request some of the music is Ofra and Sagi. I have a good time. V and I make out a lot. He likes that I rim him (jock straps) and the others look. People coming, people leaving. Some have unprotected sex, some do drugs, some do both. I think the host is also a drug dealer. I was with no doubt the only guy there that was doing only Alcohol. At some point, a group of Israelis came. I did not know them but it took just one look to know that they are Israeli. V didn't understand how I could tell since they all look the same as each other but totally different then me. I then started explaining him the difference between Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews me being the former and them being the latter (and usually sexier, in my opinion). Not sure how much he got it, being kind of high. V got their attention but once they realized he's is mine they took a step back. One of them told me as a joke in Hebrew that although he is a total bottom, seeing V's ass makes him consider, just for a second, topping just this once. That made me smile and laugh, V didn't understand but he knew we talked about him and I told them it was a compliment.
 
Party carried on and V told me he wants to do K (ketamine) if I am OK with that. I was not OK with that, since K is not E nor is it G, it is a more serious drug. But I told him that he is a grown up (he is almost my age) and does not need my permission. But if he seeks my opinion then I do not want him to take it. He took it. This of course resulted in him being way too energized at 6AM which I already felt kind of tired. We kept on parting and playing with each other and mostly me also playing with others till 7AM. Back in the room V started feeling sick. I told him that he should go to sleep and rest, but both of us were rather horny so he declined and asked for 10 minutes in the restroom. He turned his music on so I am not sure what he did, but throwing up and using the toilet was surly part of it. 10 minutes later he seemed OK we shower together and fuck. This time with Sagi Kariv's New Year's set preparing got tomorrow's party. Same routine as yesterday and just as fun. I keep fucking him synced with songs beat, I love that. Went to sleep at about 8:30 AM. Not early as I wanted but everything was great so I don't care.
 
  

I leave the room and V at about 1PM, out to CentralWorld with a mission to buy 3 sets of earplugs. Why 3? I have an Israeli friend that lives in Koh Phangan. The same friend I visited on my list trip report. He and his wife were in BKK for NYE and thought about joining me for Offer Nissim. I was very amused by the thought of this innocent straight couple attending a gay circuit party so I encouraged them to join. V did not want or need earplugs. Of course, all the gay guys already bought all the earplugs from most of the pharmacies but after several stores that were out of stock, I managed to find a store that still had some and bought their last 3 sets.
 
Now on to my well-earned massage. As I already mentioned, traffic on NYE weekend to and from CentralWorld was horrible. Just as Jasper warned me. So, Didn’t even want to try and see how long does it take via taxi and just took a motor taxi. Arrived at The Prince at about 2:30PM. Everything is the same as previously remembered. Took my time on choosing cause at first sight I did not see anything I really fancy. After about 5 minutes I see a handsome, tattooed muscular guy.  He reminds me of V but with a tougher, cockier appeal which turns me on. I ask for that guy without consulting and we go to the room for 60 min oil massage (900 BHT). Guy’s name is Tiger. Massage goes exactly as I want – about 40 minutes of massage accompanied by nice teasing me in all the sensitive parts. After that I ask him to put oil on my hands since I want to oil him while he touches me. He gets what I want right away and shows off his muscles while I touch and lick them. Ended happily after about an hour and tipped him with 1500 BHT. Highly recommended, if that is your thing.
 
Energized and refreshed, I walked from there to Sauna Mania (380THB). I had good memories from there and assumed it would be packed any time this weekend. I was wrong. There were about 50 guys inside. Only one of them was my type, and I wasn’t his type so no point on wasting my time. Left after 20 minutes for Babylon. Arrived at Babylon at about 5PM. Once I go off the motor taxi I spot a guy a fancy, tall, Asian, muscular, my age, and he is just before me in line entering Babylon too. I try to give him the gay eye but unsure if he gets it and what he wants. We enter. Place was PACKED. I have never seen so many people at Babylon. It was so packed that it was hard to walk by the cruising lanes. I prefer it this way. More to play with. After some cruising, I spot my guy from before, he stops near me, I compliment his ass, and he suggests we go to a private cabin. That was a difficult mission for that evening but we eventually succeeded. We talk, he is from HK. We had fun together and after sat for a beer and chat in the bar. After that I continue cruising. Not that horny but still energized. 10 minutes later I enter a cabin with my preferred type: Asian muscle daddy. He is local, 46 yo. I tell him I do not wanna fuck but I don't mind playing a little submissive with him. We play for about half an hour, cum, shower and that is when I decide it is my time to leave. 
 
At 7 PM I left Babylon to get ready for dinner with the couple that will later on come with me to the party. I meet the couple at the French café PAUL in Emporium mall, Shukomvit. Streets are insanely full. So many people everywhere. Took the sky train. We have a nice, peaceful and delicious dinner. I enjoy relaxing after a very intense 30 hour adventure. We separate at 9 PM and I tell them to come to my hotel no later than 23:15, wearing white. Offer starts his set at midnight exactly and one of the best parts of his set is his melodramatic entrance which I really don’t want to miss. I go back to my room. I dress up, white shorts from home, white harness bought at the WP booths and my new white shoes custom made by my BKK previous trip lover. They are LATE. They took a taxi and traffic was really bad. I already waited them outside my hotel at 23:20. They finally arrived at 23:48. I told them that if I miss Offer’s entrance because of them, I will kill them. We start walking quickly to the party.
 
I will take just a one more minute to explain a little about Offer Nissim and my obsession about his music. First, no one in Israel calls him Offer. If you have seen him, you know he looks rather feminine. The feminine version of the name Offer in Hebrew is Ofra. So that is how he is called in Israel and that is how I will refer her. We are talking about a queen. Ofra is in the Israeli music industry since the 80’s. Her first major achievement is the production of the Israeli wining Eurovision song with Dana International at 1999. Early 2000’s she started being a big gay DJ in Israel. Growing up, gay, here, her music accompanied in various life points and is very special to me. I have a clear memory of reporting here that in Aniki sauna in Taipei, on the best sauna sex night of my life, they put on her music. That is just one example. She has songs that gay guys usually can relate to. I am just one of many Ofra queens (a nickname I recently learned about) that adore her music and can get emotional about it.  Her critics say that she recycles her own material and that everything sounds similar. While this can feel somewhat true, I find her music unique but with a distinct, recognizable, expected signature. She became really big during the last decade. She travels the world picking usually 5-7 big parties a year combined with TLV pride and maybe one or two more TLV mega parties. So even in TLV, her parties are a really big event. In recent years she started also combining a great VJ (Video Jockey) that accompanies her to all concerts. Her last appearance in Bangkok was 2008/9 NYE. She is way bigger than she was back then. So after 9 years, I came to witness the return of the queen. She was scheduled for an extremely short set of only 3 hours – midnight till 3AM (this I learned from V, couple of days before my arrival since he sent me the full festival program). For comparison, in TLV her set is usually between 6-8 hours. So this is a little background of how big of a thing an Ofra party is in general and for me specifically. It is on that background that I literally told my friends to RUN after arriving so late because I don’t want to miss the queen’s arrival.
 
Will continue later.
 
For now you can enjoy her TLV Pride 2017 entrance in this official live FB video. She used the same entrance song at WPBKK. This song is called “Completely Yourself” with a Merlin Monroe intro monologue about how it is difficult for her to be “completely yourself”. Music starts at about 1:30 minutes and Ofra goes up on stage at 3:04 minutes. Enjoy. 

It was blue angel. Youngest looking guy probably about 19. I did take the lead to ensure what I wanted occurred. His 10 minute attempt at massage terrible. Rest exceptional

It is so heart warming to read the condemnations of these stupid farangs who exposed their butts in a temple, and how they deserve lashes and other punishment for their crime...   Crime?
 
It just came to my attention an episode in the news that confirms that not all is smiles in this land:
 
"Thai cadet’s death, organ removal spark debate on military’s hazing culture"
 
"When the parents could receive the corpse of their 18-year-old son, he lacked brain, heart, stomach and bladder. Now they demand clarification. The death of the cadet sheds light on brutal practices in the Thai military"
 
One can google articles about this incident everywhere.
 
With the smiles of the money boys and other nice Thais we cross everywhere it is easy to forget that there is a repressive regime in place. To give lashes to some immature tourists who exposed their butts in a temple? Is this so different from the case of the American tourist in N. Korea who was caught removing a political pamphlet and thrown in jail which caused his death?  I rather choose to live in a country with good individual rights. 

Spent a pleasant week in Pattaya at the end of October, stayed in the Poseidon in the Jomtien Complex in a very nice and recently refurbished suite for the first few days. I then decamped to an apartment just across the road in View Talay 2 for the remainder of the stay. The apartment was on the top floor, and very nicely furnished, complete with a jacuzzi.
 
Stepping out of the lift one evening I was greeted by a boy who looked vaguely familiar. I may have seen him at one of the bars at some point. A bit taller than me but quite slim, not bad looking, probably in his mid twenties.
 
I stepped aside to let him into the lift but he showed no interest in leaving the floor. We chatted briefly. He asked for a drink of water, and, happy to oblige I let him into the apartment. “Let’s play” came next and so did I, after a while. We shared a shower and as I started to towel off he slipped out of the bathroom and into the kitchen. I was suspicious and followed just in time to see him make a grab for a note on the counter. I wasn’t sure what it was but it later turned out to be just a five euro note, worth less than 200 baht.
He was still naked and dripping wet from the shower when I surprised him and caught him by the wrist. He hadn’t a chance to conceal the note, not that there were many possibilities for concealment. He looked startled and confused as he momentarily considered his options, which may have included:
 
1.      Make a break from the apartment, run naked down the corridor, wait for the lift, travel down to the ground floor, run naked out the front of the building, past security, to safety.
2.      Surrender and wait for the inevitable security call to arrive and hand him over to the police
3.      Place himself at the mercy of his host
 
Or perhaps he wasn’t the brightest of operators and hadn’t figured out his options.
 
In any case I wasn’t letting go so he opened his fist and surrendered the note. I told him to get dressed, standing guard naked over him as he did so, trying not to smile at the comedy of the situation, and the look on his face.
In the end I tipped him as if nothing had happened and sent him on his way.
The tip included the five euro note.

During my regular trips to Pattaya I prefer to have boys with me long time so I very much endorse the procedure described earlier by Vessey. In fact for me to sleep alone would be a little bit unusual. I find I’m most horny when waking up which is often early say 6 am, having gone to bed about midnight. If you look at my posts regarding hotels you will sometimes read complaints about noise, particularly at the Ambience. Many boys are not morning people so they can be slow to response to my demands for sex at that time.
I’m versatile but in the morning I’m top, whereas at night it’s kissing and sucking.

For me its long time ago I did that-in Pattaya, and then that guy wanted rather to stay with me the night (which I hardly ever do/did) and it was HE who started next morning.
In same city I also once had a young guy who boasted (only when we were in the room) that he could come 4-5 times easy enough-and though the 4th or 5th did not come that easy, I do remember it was quite a fun night. He ate for double afters.

For some boys, this sentence may be too complicated for them to understand. Think better use simple words to avoid misunderstanding.

I don't bother with long time these days, but when I did I always made it clear that there were to be at least 2 rounds of sex.
 
And they're always was.
 
But I don't think I ever did it 3 times, even though the understanding was "lots of sex".

When I am negotiating with a lad and talking about Long Time and how much, I make it clear that I want sex at night and again in the morning. 
 
Sounds a bit clinical (although I try and do it in a light hearted way) but, particularly if its a new boy I have not been with before, this is essentially a business deal and there needs to be clear expectations on both sides - does he kiss, is he top/bottom etc.
 
Deal concluded I can then enjoy the rest of the night with him - eating, drinking, dancing (well usually me watching him dance), etc.
 
So I am rarely disappointed  and often end up with yet another 'regular'.

I empathize with your condition, and I think that under these circumstances,  BKK is the best place you can be.  It is a matter of taking advantage of what is abundant there while avoiding that what is harmful to your body.  You can still have plenty of SEX while giving up on minor pleasures you can have everywhere else.  With your flaring gastric problems, it is wise to postpone the joys of food for your return home.  (honestly, I would not risk upsetting my stomach for any food in the world, no matter how "fancy").  Your body deserves to be handled carefully, and this should rule out massages in questionable places by questionable people.  I know, massage is a comfortable entry to happy endings,  but why seek some little sex as a byproduct of something that you may regret?  If sex is the attraction of BKK, why not go straight for it?   A daily short-term (or long-term if you have the endurance) off to a boy you most like in a bar, for daily good sex without compromise nor effort.  No need to spend much time in the bar and have sleepless nights, no need to eat the wrong foods in restaurants for some compromise. Perhaps the services of the money boys are not much more expensive than hanging around in other places trying to have traditional fun.
 
And once you have abused to your heart's content the abundant sex the place offers, feeling that you have contributed to the well being of many money boys, you can return home in one piece, ready to recover and improve with good habits for the next trip.

Day 9
 
My last full day in Pattaya was spent relaxing round the pool. My off from Day 7 was messaging me seeking a second helping, but I had hopes of meeting the guy from last night again. When I took a different boy who I've been friends with for nearly three years now (just friends) to La Baguette as a kind of goodbye treat, I received a message from the day 7 off saying he'd seen me with someone else... I found this somewhat annoying; an off for one evening is just that surely? I don't really expect to have my movements tracked.
 
Later on, my new guy from last night messaged me asking if I wanted to meet him again. A definite yes from me, so we met early on at the hotel for fun, and followed it with dinner and a movie at central Festival. It's a shame I have to leave tomorrow but perhaps it's best not to entertain thoughts of having another boyfriend potentially and just keep in touch and see what happens until my next visit here.
 
So out of my 9 days here, I've had some mixed experiences, but the best of them not involving any money (at least not directly).
 
Now on to Bangkok.
 
Day 10 & 11
 
I thought I'd try a different hotel to usual, the Furama as it has a nice swimming pool on the roof. It's also near Arena which I had plans to visit for the first time. I booked for two people and said on check-in that my companion would be joining me later. I did this in the event that I found someone to stay overnight as I don't know what the joiner policy is there.
 
Arena did not disappoint. I arrived around 3.30pm and there were some 25 to 30 guys in the reception area, all nicely defined chests. Scanning the line up, I decided to go for the most enthusiastic. I was slightly short-changed on time, but the massage was good and the afters really couldn't be better. He really threw himself into making me have a good experience.
 
The following day I transferred to the Malaysia Hotel until it was time to go the airport. They're gradually upgrading this place; currently the restaurant is being refurbished but food is still being served outside.
 
I like to finish my trips with time at Babylon. I spent an hour or so round the pool swimming, and then headed into the jacuzzi. Some action there as usual, and got sucked nicely by a youngish Thai guy.
 
I then headed for a 90 minute massage. It's expensive but I've never had a bad experience here, and this masseur was great. Very sensual and erotic but a proper massage. I tipped him generously as business seemed light today and it really was very good
 
I returned to my locker and picked up a dry towel and went for a shower before heading back to the hotel. Coming out of the shower room, a truly stunning guy (who I initially thought was Cambodian) caught my eye and then he gently grabbed my arm as I walked past him. I began to say I'm about to leave but his invitation to join him in the Garden of Earthly Delights was too tempting.
 
Without doubt, to join him was the best decision I made on this holiday. All in all we spent just under an hour kissing, cuddling, sucking and fucking each other. It could not have been a better ending to my holiday.
 
So, duly spent, I returned to the hotel, grabbed a quick meal, and headed to the airport.
 
I know some members think I've wasted time on the apps, but in truth I've had some great sex on this holiday and wouldn't have wanted more (maybe my libido is lower than others' here!).
 
Thailand never disappoints me. And I will be back later in the year. I hope you've enjoyed reading my accounts as much as I enjoy reading those of other people.

Off the boy, bring them out, talk to them, make small talk and get to know them, flirt with them, if you are with a farang friend make an effort to all chat together and find mutually interesting topics to talk about.
 
You will be rewarded with sex two three times as good as the "booked Prostitute" waiting for their next customer for sex

I'd say while opinions and recommendations on this and other forums are of great value it's best to go and see for ourselves as everybody's priorities and experiences may vary.
 
As for Dreamboys one of my best boys ever and one the worst by far were both from there. On one visit I considered all 50+ boys on display offable, not long after I couldn't even find one I could possibly think about offing.
 
And pretty much this can be said about every bar so bottom line again- go and check for yourself. Bar may be disaster but if only one boy shines  , that's enough to made your day or even vacations. And there's no use of scene full of eye candies if none of them smiles at you and expresses any interest in you.

I stayed in the Jomtien Complex during most of my 2.5 week February trip and can agree with most of the good advice in this thread. In particular you should have no difficulty in finding boys fitting your specification there. The gay bars are in a compact area and during a stroll around you should spot one which would suit you. Boys are more keen for a long time "off" later in the evening. It is also pleasant to converse with other gay tourists from different parts of the world.
Boystown is approximately 2 miles from the complex but is easy to travel between the two using pickup-truck type taxis and motor bike ones. There you will find gogo bars where the boys dance on stage. Until recently they wore very little but I understand there has been a clamp down so the amount of skin on show now is limited. Cupidol is the one most quoted as being the best gogo for twinks but it's constantly changing situation. Most boys will accompany you back from BT to your hotel in the Complex.
Jomtien has a gay beach a short walk from the Complex. In the past there used to be a good number of boys there looking for business, but this scene has somewhat faded away, but occasionally in the late afternoon you see a cutie wearing tight revealing speedos, looking for a friend.
Between Jomtien and Boystown is a gay sauna called Samsuck. Could be worth a visit !.
As you have found, boys are available 24/7 on GR. I found some Pattaya based boys had difficulty getting to the Complex and did not know the location of the hotels and with their limited English it can prove difficult to direct them, but hotel staff can usually assist.
 
Enjoy your trip ! I did !

You might be referring to Natan, a great restaurant with beautiful food. Each time I'm there I visit Natan. not the cheapest but I always figure I'm on holiday so why should I worry lol

I believe your report, but we don't know what happened between the two, hence I cannot take side. Read the link about the Hmong girls I posted earlier. The only thing I can say is making such a fuss in public, as the guy did, is uncouth behavior in any country, and in Thailand even worse.