emiel1981

Gentlemen,
Myself, @floridarob , @emiel1981 and @Reader will be in Silom next Monday, 16th November. Say 19:30.
Anyone else around who wants to meet up for a drink and some nosh, please reply? No venue chosen yet, depends on numbers, feel free to suggest locations.

Personal attacks only serve to demonstrate the sad life some people are leading.
No fun, no joy.
Just envy, nastiness and bitterness toward fellow posters.
If I were someone reading this board for the first time, I'd run a mile.
The board can do without these members.
Over to you, TotallyOz.

I was pleased to have been able to catch up with you during your multi-day stay. We had so much to catch up on and many things were percolating during your visit. I wish that I had more energy to hang out more - but that will be for next time.
Enjoy Cambodia and your BKK part II stay.

Technical issues with our forum prevented me from writing a live trip report. However, here are a few details regarding the rest of my days in Pattaya:
In general, things were quite quiet in Jomtien. However, as several people pointed out, that is to be expected for early November. It should gradually get busier throughout the month, with the high season only truly beginning toward the end of November. Let’s hope so—the bars and the guys working there could certainly use the business and the revenue. One thing I noticed is that, throughout the evening and night, you can always find some liveliness somewhere. Various bars host shows on different days and at different times; the downside is that you can sometimes find yourself overwhelmed by noise coming from multiple directions, which makes having a conversation while sitting on a terrace quite difficult.
I was pleased to see that the massage guy with the glasses—whom I and others have discussed—hasn’t lost his innocence yet. He can easy be found in grindr when in Jomtien complex. I first met him last year, when he was still relatively new to the scene. He remains just as charming, cute, and—or at least, he certainly gives that impression—innocent as he was before. He’s charming, makes for good conversation, and really takes his time. During his "massage-and-more" session with me, he still made it clear that he’s genuinely focused on the client; he hasn’t been tainted by the "payboy" scene, where, all too often, you get the sense that the guys are just looking to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible. Not him. He still makes you feel like he’s truly dedicating his time to you. It feels less transactional with him. Bless him.
Dined at the relatively new Schatzi's restaurant. The food is of good quality. For me personally, the portions were a bit on the small side—but they have a great solution for that: delicious homemade cakes for dessert.
I think Guido’s new restaurant is a great addition to Pattaya. It features the same familiar menu we know from the Bangkok location. However, the Pattaya branch offers a lovely, atmospheric setting in the restaurant’s garden, beautifully decorated with lots of lights. The only downside was that I got bitten quite a bit by flies or mosquitoes.
The gay-oriented beach concessions at Dongtan Beach have been relocated. The area where they were previously situated (past the first set of restrooms) is now closed off for a beach nourishment project—specifically, the pumping of sand onto the shore. The concession operators who cater to the gay community are now located between the police booth and the cordoned-off section near the restrooms; they are, of course, easily identifiable by their rainbow flags. During the three afternoons I spent on the beach, I experienced no noise disturbance from the ongoing work. Although the dredging vessels offshore were clearly busy—I could see sand being pumped from the seabed into the boats—you cannot hear a thing from the beach, provided you sit near the first few concessions, close to the police booth. The actual process of sand being deposited onto the beach was visible, but completely silent. So, it’s perfectly fine. According to one of the concession operators I spoke with, they plan to move back to their original location once the stretch of beach further along has been renovated. 
Also see this thread about this subject:

Technical issues with our forum prevented me from writing a live trip report. However, here are a few details regarding the rest of my days in Pattaya:
In general, things were quite quiet in Jomtien. However, as several people pointed out, that is to be expected for early November. It should gradually get busier throughout the month, with the high season only truly beginning toward the end of November. Let’s hope so—the bars and the guys working there could certainly use the business and the revenue. One thing I noticed is that, throughout the evening and night, you can always find some liveliness somewhere. Various bars host shows on different days and at different times; the downside is that you can sometimes find yourself overwhelmed by noise coming from multiple directions, which makes having a conversation while sitting on a terrace quite difficult.
I was pleased to see that the massage guy with the glasses—whom I and others have discussed—hasn’t lost his innocence yet. He can easy be found in grindr when in Jomtien complex. I first met him last year, when he was still relatively new to the scene. He remains just as charming, cute, and—or at least, he certainly gives that impression—innocent as he was before. He’s charming, makes for good conversation, and really takes his time. During his "massage-and-more" session with me, he still made it clear that he’s genuinely focused on the client; he hasn’t been tainted by the "payboy" scene, where, all too often, you get the sense that the guys are just looking to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible. Not him. He still makes you feel like he’s truly dedicating his time to you. It feels less transactional with him. Bless him.
Dined at the relatively new Schatzi's restaurant. The food is of good quality. For me personally, the portions were a bit on the small side—but they have a great solution for that: delicious homemade cakes for dessert.
I think Guido’s new restaurant is a great addition to Pattaya. It features the same familiar menu we know from the Bangkok location. However, the Pattaya branch offers a lovely, atmospheric setting in the restaurant’s garden, beautifully decorated with lots of lights. The only downside was that I got bitten quite a bit by flies or mosquitoes.
The gay-oriented beach concessions at Dongtan Beach have been relocated. The area where they were previously situated (past the first set of restrooms) is now closed off for a beach nourishment project—specifically, the pumping of sand onto the shore. The concession operators who cater to the gay community are now located between the police booth and the cordoned-off section near the restrooms; they are, of course, easily identifiable by their rainbow flags. During the three afternoons I spent on the beach, I experienced no noise disturbance from the ongoing work. Although the dredging vessels offshore were clearly busy—I could see sand being pumped from the seabed into the boats—you cannot hear a thing from the beach, provided you sit near the first few concessions, close to the police booth. The actual process of sand being deposited onto the beach was visible, but completely silent. So, it’s perfectly fine. According to one of the concession operators I spoke with, they plan to move back to their original location once the stretch of beach further along has been renovated. 
Also see this thread about this subject:

During the three afternoons I spent on the beach, I experienced no noise disturbance from the ongoing work. Although the dredging vessels offshore were clearly busy—I could see sand being pumped from the seabed into the boats—you cannot hear a thing from the beach, provided you sit near the first few concessions, close to the police booth. The actual process of sand being deposited onto the beach was visible, but completely silent. So, it’s perfectly fine. According to one of the concession operators I spoke with, they plan to move back to their original location once the stretch of beach further along has been renovated. 

Technical issues with our forum prevented me from writing a live trip report. However, here are a few details regarding the rest of my days in Pattaya:
In general, things were quite quiet in Jomtien. However, as several people pointed out, that is to be expected for early November. It should gradually get busier throughout the month, with the high season only truly beginning toward the end of November. Let’s hope so—the bars and the guys working there could certainly use the business and the revenue. One thing I noticed is that, throughout the evening and night, you can always find some liveliness somewhere. Various bars host shows on different days and at different times; the downside is that you can sometimes find yourself overwhelmed by noise coming from multiple directions, which makes having a conversation while sitting on a terrace quite difficult.
I was pleased to see that the massage guy with the glasses—whom I and others have discussed—hasn’t lost his innocence yet. He can easy be found in grindr when in Jomtien complex. I first met him last year, when he was still relatively new to the scene. He remains just as charming, cute, and—or at least, he certainly gives that impression—innocent as he was before. He’s charming, makes for good conversation, and really takes his time. During his "massage-and-more" session with me, he still made it clear that he’s genuinely focused on the client; he hasn’t been tainted by the "payboy" scene, where, all too often, you get the sense that the guys are just looking to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible. Not him. He still makes you feel like he’s truly dedicating his time to you. It feels less transactional with him. Bless him.
Dined at the relatively new Schatzi's restaurant. The food is of good quality. For me personally, the portions were a bit on the small side—but they have a great solution for that: delicious homemade cakes for dessert.
I think Guido’s new restaurant is a great addition to Pattaya. It features the same familiar menu we know from the Bangkok location. However, the Pattaya branch offers a lovely, atmospheric setting in the restaurant’s garden, beautifully decorated with lots of lights. The only downside was that I got bitten quite a bit by flies or mosquitoes.
The gay-oriented beach concessions at Dongtan Beach have been relocated. The area where they were previously situated (past the first set of restrooms) is now closed off for a beach nourishment project—specifically, the pumping of sand onto the shore. The concession operators who cater to the gay community are now located between the police booth and the cordoned-off section near the restrooms; they are, of course, easily identifiable by their rainbow flags. During the three afternoons I spent on the beach, I experienced no noise disturbance from the ongoing work. Although the dredging vessels offshore were clearly busy—I could see sand being pumped from the seabed into the boats—you cannot hear a thing from the beach, provided you sit near the first few concessions, close to the police booth. The actual process of sand being deposited onto the beach was visible, but completely silent. So, it’s perfectly fine. According to one of the concession operators I spoke with, they plan to move back to their original location once the stretch of beach further along has been renovated. 
Also see this thread about this subject:

have a fun wherever you are !

Day 18 , last full
Breakfast at Zing is very good value, for 200 baht we have selection of Asian and western offerings, fruits ,yoghurt, eggs made to the order, soup and dim sum style buns and other goodies . Tea is Dilmah, not some cheap stuff from dollar store.   
I checked out at 10.30 and at 11 am bus started rolling toward Swampy. In reverse of yesterday situation, rain started as soon as  we pulled from the bay. What a luck again.
It looks that rain was sticking to the sea as  highway was mostly dry and in 1 hr 50 minutes we were back in civilisation. Since I had room already checking in was not my concern but what I noticed , cleaning lady was too smart.
Upon seeing nobody slept last night she did not replenish tea and water even if yesterday I left her double tip. Not that I missed either but rules are rules, whether I used bottle or not , there was always two new bottles  placed. So cruelly I decided not to leave tip tomorrow morning ( in hotels I tip maids daily , as it goes ) .
At 2.30 meeting with reader at Foodland, we spent good 2 hours talking.
BT from Goodboys  is messaging me daily with his ‘I miss you, when I can see you  “ messages  so I sent him message  from Foodland  that I will be in my room from 5 pm the latest but that was not read until after 6 and he did not show up until 8.
I like him and when he is here he is not a time waster but I could  use more of his company , specially after all that ‘ I miss you “ waxing. After about 1 hr he went to work ,  but not before requesting “ I want to sleep with you tonight “ , unfortunately I had other plans for my last night.
 Waiting for BT I asked BOI  from Jupiter about LT tonight , he agreed immediately and commented “ why I must be always on your last night?”   ( always means in Aug he was my last guy indeed )  but , always diplomat I responded “ crown is always placed  last “ . He liked it a lot, not that I exaggerated. Our 1st meeting few trips ago was  so, so but after that each subsequent is better and better – I’m not giving that easy on guys I kind of like. 
 I told him I will pick him up from the bar after show  and went there at 10.30  entering exactly when walkabout started. Similarly like 2 days ago I tipped 3 guys (not the same three ) and two returned smile during next walk.
 After show BOI suggested we go to 7/11 to buy something to eat likely sensing that at end of trip I may be low on cash , I had about 1000 still left    but 7/11 it was and stuff we bought was quite tasty.
 Not sure it’s good idea to have such a hunk on my last night as before long trip I could use some sleep but damage  was done. I had only a hope that sleepless nigh means better sleep on the flight and was happy to learn I was not wrong.
We really hit it on, I think he appreciated repeat business and I cherished his personality , patience and first and foremost  massive body , as close to what I like as possible.
I mentioned crown and it was indeed proper crowning of very rewarding trip.

Some more updates have been revealed:
1.) Gus, the owner of the popular Sunee bar with the dance troupe has put up his other bar, GUS Bar up for sale.
This news saddened me, as it is truly a fun bar, and for those who seek it, lite playful fun behind the "pillows" can be had.

Source = https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19nFrfEofk/
Of note, the 2 "pillow" bars in Supertown in the Jomtien Complex are now both up for sale, with the M Bar being the other one.

2.) The big unnamed new bar that is being reconstructed (formerly the 4-T bar) across the soi from the CockA2 bar and My Favorite Diner (MFD) previously announced to open on 21 November,


appears to have revealed their new name = I124Q


Source = https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19r6bR2kgv/
Maybe this bar's theme will be geared to people with an IQ of 124 = superior intelligence category ?
That is all for today.

.....I checked into Men's; had a long homeland phone call; ate at the hotel, and opened grindr.
First message was from a 19 y/o American blond, complaining about being "bored and horny". He took up my offer to solve his problems, and so I did.
It's only my second time having sex in two countries on the same day. First time was in 2012: morning with a young Chinese-Malaysian tourist in HCMC; evening at the long deceased Hero Massage in bkk. I actually rushed over there during a 5 hours connection, primarily to check whether I was up to it.
Anyway, for some reason - I like the feeling.

The impossible is about to happen... On Tuesday, I have to travel from Pattaya to BKK airport—and for the first time ever, I’m taking the bus instead of a taxi! Be proud of me! Haha

I did a round of Boyztown last night. We arrived at Xboys just as the first show was starting. According to the latest banners in the bar, they now have a show every hour—the first at 10 PM and the last at 1 AM. It remains the most progressive show I know, featuring plenty of nudity, big dicks, and the infamous "fuck show." By midnight, as the second round of shows was about to begin, the bar was quite full. The number of guys there—well, it’s neither large nor small; I’d call it "okay." However, for my personal taste, the quality left something to be desired. I recognized faces that have been there for many years. A bit of new (and younger, fresher) blood wouldn't hurt the place at all.
But I was pleased to see that Pattaya offers something other than the slim, feminine "twinks" found in Jomtien—who are far too small for my personal taste. Places like Dreamboys and Toyboys also have some attractive guys, though the quantity might leave something to be desired. Then again, you really only need one guy who fits your preferences to have a great evening and a wonderful night...
Xboys is the only bar that actually puts on a show. In the others, the guys just stand on stage (in their underwear)—there’s no real show; they just stand there and walk around a bit. At Toyboys, a few of the guys were enthusiastically trying to get our attention, which I always quite enjoy. It’s a lot better than having guys on stage just staring blankly into space.
Inquiries with the staff at XBoys revealed that it is not yet certain whether the bar will close; the owner has yet to make a decision. Closing at the end of November is a possibility, but the end of December was also mentioned as an option—or perhaps they might simply remain open. Once the owner has reached a decision, they will share an update via their social media channels. Someone pointed out to me that XBoys will soon be celebrating its 18th anniversary; could that be the moment they choose to announce their closure—a "we’re all grown up now, time to move on" kind of sentiment? Given how busy the bar was, I find it hard to imagine that they would need to close due to poor business. Then again, I have no way of knowing whether the crowd on the particular evening we visited is representative of their usual foot traffic.
BoyzBoyzBoyz has moved from the corner building they used to occupy to a spot next to Toyboys (where Café Royale used to be, perhaps?). We only realized this too late. So, I have no idea whether the move has brought them back toward their original concept—which might be more interesting to us—or if the guys are still performing on stage fully clothed, hoping to win over Asian women.

I already knew they allow smoking inside of Goodboy. But during my 2nd visit to Banana I did see multiple customers smoke inside also. Allowed. As waiters were happy to provide ashtrays. Being a non smoker, I think it's bad they let people smoke inside. Isn't that even forbidden by law? But... This is Thailand. So who cares about the law? Lol

In the afternoon, my most loyal regular came to visit me in my hotel room. I’ve written about him quite a few times in my trip reports over the years. He’s half-Thai, half-Dutch, so I can speak my own language with him. Unfortunately, he charges European prices—but he’s worth it. So, I make an exception for him and pay an amount that would otherwise be unacceptable in Thailand. He’s sexy (see the photo below) and has a real "whorey" vibe. He also gives a great massage, and the sex that follows is fantastic, too. Completely satisfied, I lay in my room savoring the moment; as it was getting late, I took a shower and headed off toward Soi 4. I had arranged to meet @12is12 at G's for dinner.

I had also eaten at Guido’s the evening before. But this time, I went for a Thai dish instead of German. Guido’s cat was sleeping on a chair. Yesterday, when it was raining, I didn’t see the cat. Guido’s pussy apparently doesn’t like to get wet.
After dinner, we planned to visit a few bars. Since it was still quite early, we stopped by the Midnight bar for a drink first. It was lovely, as one of the forum favorites—Pay—was working there. It’s always fun to chat with him and engage in a bit of flirty banter. And always nice to get a feel of his arm muscles and lift up his shirt, too. Haha.
We moved on to Freshboy. We arrived just in time to catch a few minutes of the guys on stage before the show started, getting a look at what was on offer... There were plenty of guys, but what struck me—especially after spending the last few days at Banana and Goodboy, where the guys are approachable and actively seek interaction—was that the guys at Freshboy didn’t make eye contact at all. No smiling. Only one or two tried a bit. They all just stood there staring straight ahead, looking quite serious. Not very inviting. The show itself was the same as always; nothing new or innovative. There were quite a few customers, but it was far from a full house.
After that, we headed back to Soi 4—to Banana. The show was energetic and professional, just like yesterday. If you’re genuinely on a "boy hunt," there might be a bit too much emphasis on the show and not enough boys or nudity on display. Still, I find it a really great bar these days. There were plenty of flirtatious glances again.
For the final bar of the evening, we headed to Goodboy. We arrived before the late show started, which gave us a good chance to take a proper look at all the guys. As always, there were plenty of guys working, but very few customers this time around. Both the "mamasan" and one of the guys I know mentioned that it had been quiet all evening. In fact, things have apparently been very slow for the past few weeks—they really need more business.

Does Anyone follow this grab driver or familiar with him? He has on 886K followers on Facebook and majority of his videos are of him picking up customers late night and at some point their hands wander to his crotch and he doesn't seem to mind......

https://www.facebook.com/sarawut.pechprakob

I did a round of Boyztown last night. We arrived at Xboys just as the first show was starting. According to the latest banners in the bar, they now have a show every hour—the first at 10 PM and the last at 1 AM. It remains the most progressive show I know, featuring plenty of nudity, big dicks, and the infamous "fuck show." By midnight, as the second round of shows was about to begin, the bar was quite full. The number of guys there—well, it’s neither large nor small; I’d call it "okay." However, for my personal taste, the quality left something to be desired. I recognized faces that have been there for many years. A bit of new (and younger, fresher) blood wouldn't hurt the place at all.
But I was pleased to see that Pattaya offers something other than the slim, feminine "twinks" found in Jomtien—who are far too small for my personal taste. Places like Dreamboys and Toyboys also have some attractive guys, though the quantity might leave something to be desired. Then again, you really only need one guy who fits your preferences to have a great evening and a wonderful night...
Xboys is the only bar that actually puts on a show. In the others, the guys just stand on stage (in their underwear)—there’s no real show; they just stand there and walk around a bit. At Toyboys, a few of the guys were enthusiastically trying to get our attention, which I always quite enjoy. It’s a lot better than having guys on stage just staring blankly into space.
Inquiries with the staff at XBoys revealed that it is not yet certain whether the bar will close; the owner has yet to make a decision. Closing at the end of November is a possibility, but the end of December was also mentioned as an option—or perhaps they might simply remain open. Once the owner has reached a decision, they will share an update via their social media channels. Someone pointed out to me that XBoys will soon be celebrating its 18th anniversary; could that be the moment they choose to announce their closure—a "we’re all grown up now, time to move on" kind of sentiment? Given how busy the bar was, I find it hard to imagine that they would need to close due to poor business. Then again, I have no way of knowing whether the crowd on the particular evening we visited is representative of their usual foot traffic.
BoyzBoyzBoyz has moved from the corner building they used to occupy to a spot next to Toyboys (where Café Royale used to be, perhaps?). We only realized this too late. So, I have no idea whether the move has brought them back toward their original concept—which might be more interesting to us—or if the guys are still performing on stage fully clothed, hoping to win over Asian women.

I did a round of Boyztown last night. We arrived at Xboys just as the first show was starting. According to the latest banners in the bar, they now have a show every hour—the first at 10 PM and the last at 1 AM. It remains the most progressive show I know, featuring plenty of nudity, big dicks, and the infamous "fuck show." By midnight, as the second round of shows was about to begin, the bar was quite full. The number of guys there—well, it’s neither large nor small; I’d call it "okay." However, for my personal taste, the quality left something to be desired. I recognized faces that have been there for many years. A bit of new (and younger, fresher) blood wouldn't hurt the place at all.
But I was pleased to see that Pattaya offers something other than the slim, feminine "twinks" found in Jomtien—who are far too small for my personal taste. Places like Dreamboys and Toyboys also have some attractive guys, though the quantity might leave something to be desired. Then again, you really only need one guy who fits your preferences to have a great evening and a wonderful night...
Xboys is the only bar that actually puts on a show. In the others, the guys just stand on stage (in their underwear)—there’s no real show; they just stand there and walk around a bit. At Toyboys, a few of the guys were enthusiastically trying to get our attention, which I always quite enjoy. It’s a lot better than having guys on stage just staring blankly into space.
Inquiries with the staff at XBoys revealed that it is not yet certain whether the bar will close; the owner has yet to make a decision. Closing at the end of November is a possibility, but the end of December was also mentioned as an option—or perhaps they might simply remain open. Once the owner has reached a decision, they will share an update via their social media channels. Someone pointed out to me that XBoys will soon be celebrating its 18th anniversary; could that be the moment they choose to announce their closure—a "we’re all grown up now, time to move on" kind of sentiment? Given how busy the bar was, I find it hard to imagine that they would need to close due to poor business. Then again, I have no way of knowing whether the crowd on the particular evening we visited is representative of their usual foot traffic.
BoyzBoyzBoyz has moved from the corner building they used to occupy to a spot next to Toyboys (where Café Royale used to be, perhaps?). We only realized this too late. So, I have no idea whether the move has brought them back toward their original concept—which might be more interesting to us—or if the guys are still performing on stage fully clothed, hoping to win over Asian women.

I did a round of Boyztown last night. We arrived at Xboys just as the first show was starting. According to the latest banners in the bar, they now have a show every hour—the first at 10 PM and the last at 1 AM. It remains the most progressive show I know, featuring plenty of nudity, big dicks, and the infamous "fuck show." By midnight, as the second round of shows was about to begin, the bar was quite full. The number of guys there—well, it’s neither large nor small; I’d call it "okay." However, for my personal taste, the quality left something to be desired. I recognized faces that have been there for many years. A bit of new (and younger, fresher) blood wouldn't hurt the place at all.
But I was pleased to see that Pattaya offers something other than the slim, feminine "twinks" found in Jomtien—who are far too small for my personal taste. Places like Dreamboys and Toyboys also have some attractive guys, though the quantity might leave something to be desired. Then again, you really only need one guy who fits your preferences to have a great evening and a wonderful night...
Xboys is the only bar that actually puts on a show. In the others, the guys just stand on stage (in their underwear)—there’s no real show; they just stand there and walk around a bit. At Toyboys, a few of the guys were enthusiastically trying to get our attention, which I always quite enjoy. It’s a lot better than having guys on stage just staring blankly into space.
Inquiries with the staff at XBoys revealed that it is not yet certain whether the bar will close; the owner has yet to make a decision. Closing at the end of November is a possibility, but the end of December was also mentioned as an option—or perhaps they might simply remain open. Once the owner has reached a decision, they will share an update via their social media channels. Someone pointed out to me that XBoys will soon be celebrating its 18th anniversary; could that be the moment they choose to announce their closure—a "we’re all grown up now, time to move on" kind of sentiment? Given how busy the bar was, I find it hard to imagine that they would need to close due to poor business. Then again, I have no way of knowing whether the crowd on the particular evening we visited is representative of their usual foot traffic.
BoyzBoyzBoyz has moved from the corner building they used to occupy to a spot next to Toyboys (where Café Royale used to be, perhaps?). We only realized this too late. So, I have no idea whether the move has brought them back toward their original concept—which might be more interesting to us—or if the guys are still performing on stage fully clothed, hoping to win over Asian women.

To a building in the beginning of the same street. Next to Toyboys.

I did a round of Boyztown last night. We arrived at Xboys just as the first show was starting. According to the latest banners in the bar, they now have a show every hour—the first at 10 PM and the last at 1 AM. It remains the most progressive show I know, featuring plenty of nudity, big dicks, and the infamous "fuck show." By midnight, as the second round of shows was about to begin, the bar was quite full. The number of guys there—well, it’s neither large nor small; I’d call it "okay." However, for my personal taste, the quality left something to be desired. I recognized faces that have been there for many years. A bit of new (and younger, fresher) blood wouldn't hurt the place at all.
But I was pleased to see that Pattaya offers something other than the slim, feminine "twinks" found in Jomtien—who are far too small for my personal taste. Places like Dreamboys and Toyboys also have some attractive guys, though the quantity might leave something to be desired. Then again, you really only need one guy who fits your preferences to have a great evening and a wonderful night...
Xboys is the only bar that actually puts on a show. In the others, the guys just stand on stage (in their underwear)—there’s no real show; they just stand there and walk around a bit. At Toyboys, a few of the guys were enthusiastically trying to get our attention, which I always quite enjoy. It’s a lot better than having guys on stage just staring blankly into space.
Inquiries with the staff at XBoys revealed that it is not yet certain whether the bar will close; the owner has yet to make a decision. Closing at the end of November is a possibility, but the end of December was also mentioned as an option—or perhaps they might simply remain open. Once the owner has reached a decision, they will share an update via their social media channels. Someone pointed out to me that XBoys will soon be celebrating its 18th anniversary; could that be the moment they choose to announce their closure—a "we’re all grown up now, time to move on" kind of sentiment? Given how busy the bar was, I find it hard to imagine that they would need to close due to poor business. Then again, I have no way of knowing whether the crowd on the particular evening we visited is representative of their usual foot traffic.
BoyzBoyzBoyz has moved from the corner building they used to occupy to a spot next to Toyboys (where Café Royale used to be, perhaps?). We only realized this too late. So, I have no idea whether the move has brought them back toward their original concept—which might be more interesting to us—or if the guys are still performing on stage fully clothed, hoping to win over Asian women.

I did a round of Boyztown last night. We arrived at Xboys just as the first show was starting. According to the latest banners in the bar, they now have a show every hour—the first at 10 PM and the last at 1 AM. It remains the most progressive show I know, featuring plenty of nudity, big dicks, and the infamous "fuck show." By midnight, as the second round of shows was about to begin, the bar was quite full. The number of guys there—well, it’s neither large nor small; I’d call it "okay." However, for my personal taste, the quality left something to be desired. I recognized faces that have been there for many years. A bit of new (and younger, fresher) blood wouldn't hurt the place at all.
But I was pleased to see that Pattaya offers something other than the slim, feminine "twinks" found in Jomtien—who are far too small for my personal taste. Places like Dreamboys and Toyboys also have some attractive guys, though the quantity might leave something to be desired. Then again, you really only need one guy who fits your preferences to have a great evening and a wonderful night...
Xboys is the only bar that actually puts on a show. In the others, the guys just stand on stage (in their underwear)—there’s no real show; they just stand there and walk around a bit. At Toyboys, a few of the guys were enthusiastically trying to get our attention, which I always quite enjoy. It’s a lot better than having guys on stage just staring blankly into space.
Inquiries with the staff at XBoys revealed that it is not yet certain whether the bar will close; the owner has yet to make a decision. Closing at the end of November is a possibility, but the end of December was also mentioned as an option—or perhaps they might simply remain open. Once the owner has reached a decision, they will share an update via their social media channels. Someone pointed out to me that XBoys will soon be celebrating its 18th anniversary; could that be the moment they choose to announce their closure—a "we’re all grown up now, time to move on" kind of sentiment? Given how busy the bar was, I find it hard to imagine that they would need to close due to poor business. Then again, I have no way of knowing whether the crowd on the particular evening we visited is representative of their usual foot traffic.
BoyzBoyzBoyz has moved from the corner building they used to occupy to a spot next to Toyboys (where Café Royale used to be, perhaps?). We only realized this too late. So, I have no idea whether the move has brought them back toward their original concept—which might be more interesting to us—or if the guys are still performing on stage fully clothed, hoping to win over Asian women.

and that is what makes Thai scene so great , there is something for everybody. Often we cross each other when moving in very different circles. I , for one , never been to famous Babylon or any other saunas neither ever ventured to DJ station. Once talked to one of our members to discover that in his several trips he never went to Moonlights and even suggested I may help him to correct his deficiency. In January met regular visitor to both Bangkok and Phnom Penh who turned out frequenting clubs and being busy on apps but he was not award about any of gay forums , including ours and was never inside of any go-go bars in Bangkok.
You are right that often volume of sound inside bars effectively prohibits any conversation and borders on ridiculous and perhaps also dangerous to the health. Jupiter and Dreamboys were at one point particular offenders but seem that they toned down ( or I'm getting deaf ). Another nasty thing sometimes happening is AC set too low so yes, other than perceived poor quality of boys or shows and costs there may be other reasons to skip bars.
as for bantering with the staff I usually start with " I don't like boys , I like girls " which tell them I'm fun loving liar and it's easy go from there

I hadn’t been to Banana Club for years. The last times I was there, I’d been somewhat disappointed: there were lots of ladyboy acts, very few male acts, and the guys who were there just weren’t my type. Because of that, I’d stayed away for a long time. But a forum member mentioned that things had improved quite a bit, so I decided to go take a look. When I arrived, the first (early) show—which starts around 9:45 PM—was already underway. I saw a few people sitting there, but I quickly realized that, in fact, they were all staff. There was only one other guest. Yet, they had gone ahead and started the show anyway. I became guest number two. It’s always a bit awkward, being practically the only person watching a show.
I was pleasantly surprised by the show itself. The ladyboys generally performed entertaining numbers (though, in my opinion, there were perhaps a bit too many ladyboy acts in the show overall); the male dancers did a great job and occasionally engaged in some playful, flirtatious interaction. Light effects and visuals on the big screens on stage where also nice. The more erotic numbers were partly original and partly the kind of thing you see everywhere. The guys performing these erotic acts also engaged in some pleasant, friendly interaction from time to time.
The "quality" of the guys present was also significantly better than before—just as the forum member who gave the advice had already noted. There were actually quite a few who were just my type. Some of them made flirtatious contact while up on stage—wearing their number tags, shirtless, but with long pants (jeans) on. A number of them had also taken part in the "cock parade" during the erotic show, so even though they were wearing long pants now, I already knew exactly what quite a few of them had to offer...
What struck me during the "big cock show" was that many of the guys were wearing multiple condoms, one on top of the other—you could even see air trapped at the tip of the condom, meaning the penis inside was smaller than the condom itself, which had essentially been "inflated." One guy was bold enough to show off his equipment without a condom; he certainly had nothing to be ashamed of. He also took part in various erotic acts.
During one of the acts, he tried to persuade me to come up on stage and sit on a chair. I stayed put—and a good thing, too! When none of the other guests dared to do it, one of the waiters was placed in the chair instead. The guys performed a sexy dance for him—and with him—which even involved lifting up his shirt and things like that. Well, I’m glad that wasn’t me; the very thought is a nightmare! In a private setting, that might have been fine, but certainly not with other people watching—even if it was only a small audience.
His nerve, combined with the fact that he engaged with me, led me to invite him over—even though I already knew he was a top. I made it clear from the start that I wouldn't be taking him to my hotel, but that I’d be happy to have a drink with him, chat, and feel his six-pack and other muscles. He agreed. We had a really great time together. He was a guy from Cambodia—from Battambang. Maybe he’s a neighbor of @jimmie50.... 😂
According to him, there were also a few attractive guys who could play the bottom role. He mentioned some of their tag numbers and even suggested that the three of us—him, me, and a colleague of his who’s a bottom—should head up to my room. I politely declined; I just wasn’t really in the mood that evening. Still, I had a great time. Before I knew it, the third round of shows had already begun. In the meantime, several customers had come and gone. Eventually, I was the only guest left in the bar. I tipped a few of the performers—after all, they were putting on the show just for me—and then decided to head out myself.
In short, a very successful rediscovery of Banana! I need to head back there soon—but this time for a guy who can be a bottom.

Despite the fact that fuel prices have risen—in Thailand, too, as far as I’m aware—the cost of a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya with TheLimoPattaya has remained the same as last year: 1,600 baht. Although there were reports of heavy rain in Pattaya, the entire journey remained dry, and by the time I arrived, the weather there had cleared up as well. That was a relief; I find driving on Thai highways during a downpour quite frightening and dangerous, especially since many drivers fail to adjust their already hurried driving style to the weather conditions.
A few days ago, I realized that I had actually booked a room with a pool view at the Agate Hotel. I personally prefer a room that faces the street (Jomtien Complex), so you can watch a bit of the lively atmosphere from your balcony. I sent an email to the hotel about this, and upon check-in, it turned out they had received it and had indeed assigned me a room with a street view instead. Nice.
Met up with a forum member who also arrived in Pattaya today, along with his 20-year-old "travel companion." Apparently, some forum members now bring along young travel companions who aren't "money boys," boyfriends, or "fuck boys." In any case, it was a very enjoyable time.
After dinner at Sophia’s (which was packed—likely because it’s so cheap...), we walked around and had drinks at various bars in the Jomtien complex. We heard some fresh gossip: X-Boys, located in/near Boyztown, is supposedly closing at the end of this month (November). If that’s true, it means the closure of what I consider the best bar in Pattaya for sex(y) shows. During my most recent visits to Pattaya, I’ve had some fantastic, raunchy nights there. So, I definitely need to pay it a visit over the next few days—partly to see if I can confirm whether they’re actually closing.