Milk78

In classic UK government behaviour, there are two lists. Thailand has made the list which says it is ok for non-essential travel, but you will have to self isolate/ quarantine for 14 days on return to the UK. This will be in addition to any restrictions at the Thailand end if there are any?

No Thailand but i see Vietnam made the list.

I met a couple of guys on Grindr before finding the one i am with now - I saw him yesterday and he is coming over soon. We will probably have some fun then go for food. We are also planning on hooking up tomorrow.

An easy but, on reflection, silly mistake to make. The girls should have been enough for me to realise i had got it wrong!!

I thought i would put a new report on my Chiang Mai visit rather than add it to the end of my BKK report for clarity. After six days in BKK, I flew up to Chiang Mai last Thursday. Flew up with Bangkok Airways and despite nearly missing the flight (my own fault for not really allowing enough time for BKK traffic), the ride was smooth and efficient. One thing i did notice on the plane was the ration of westerners. At leat half the plane were westerners which surprised me a little. Yes, there are lots of Chinese in town, but proportionally I have seen far more westerners then in BKK. My expectations for boy action here were pretty low. Advice and observations from forum members on a previous post had suggested that the scene was not great - nor were they inaccurate. I arrived in time for Chinese New Year and there have been a number of street and market based celebrations. The apps (Grindr) seem well populated and I have had a number of connections. Such was the hit rate, I was in two minds as to whether i should even bother with Adam's Apple given the feedback from forum members and looking at recent reviews on Google and elsewhere. But, given the celebrations for New Year are in full swing and a quick look on Adam's Apple website announced their own New Year party at the club, I thought i would check it out - if it isn't busy for this, it never will be! Whilst it was certainly busy, the whole experience was... disappointing. I arrived at the club at about 9.45pm. I had hoped to give myself enough time to have a look at the boys and maybe make a selection before the show kicked off at 10.30pm. I was seated to the side of the stage on a bar stool it had a tall table and i settled in for a beer with a decent view of the stage. It was only a decent view of the stage as from that position there is a pillar slightly in the way which cuts off the view of a section of the performance area. My immediate concern was that if i did see a boy i liked the opportunity for me to call him over for a drink was limited - actually pretty non-existent. There are sofas in the central section but the majority of these seemed to be occupied with regulars. Then there was the boys themselves. About 15 to 20 boys. 6-7 on stage at any one time with little engagement or interaction with the audience, lots of joking around with each other, the others milling around with the regulars. They were all wearing white underwear and t-shirts. The t-shirts covered up the bodies which made it difficult to assess body type but they also had the effect of covering their packages so getting much of a sense of what was on offer was really hard. And given that i didn't really have the option of inviting one over for a drink there was little (zero) chance of offing any of them. The show was poor. It was busy though - 20-30 customers and the drinks were cheap by BKK standards at 250bht. I had a beer and stayed for a bit of the show before leaving. Grindr has worked out well for me though. I have met a young (19/20yr old) Thai student who loves middle age, overweight, white guys so I am perfect for him! With just a couple of days left here it has, unexpectedly, turned into a bit of a BFE which i am enjoying a great deal..... I like Chiang Mai a lot. I was thinking about cutting the trip short and getting an extra day back in BKK as i still have unfinished business there. Illness at the start of the trip meant i missed out on doing as much as i otherwise would have. But, given my new found play thing here i think i will see my original plans through and stay put. As many have said before, Chiang Mai is probably not the place for boys compared to BKK. I have done well on the apps and i have to say i am enjoying the (slightly) cleaner air up here. I have a last night in BKK on the 29th before heading back to the UK and am planning for a full night of action! I will just have to make sure I get back again soon so i can catch up on the things i missed - every cloud and all that......

BKK trip adventures continued - Whilst still in the grip of a cold, Monday was the first day that wasn't as bad as the day before; hopefully that means it is coming to an end..... Having a cold is pretty rubbish. It has certainly meant that i have not done many of the things that i had planned for my time in BKK. Breathing is not easy and the bad air has not made it any easier. I have still tried to get out and do a few things. It just means i will have to come back.... every cloud and all that! I had heard good things about Iconsiam and the idea of an air conditioned space to wander round was not unwelcome. It is a surreal place. A beautiful indoor floating market and little stalls selling all manner of food stuffs and just next door to it hyper modern glass showrooms for Maserati and Rolls Royce. I wandered back to my hotel and logged in to find a message from this site's @anddy with a lovely invitation to meet up for a drink. Despite my getting the wrong bar, Andy located me. It was really nice to chat to a forum member and hear about life, the scene, and what the future may hold in BKK. We ended up in Screw Boys so i could tick off another boy bar and compare to Lucky and Fresh Boys. We were a little late and walked straight into the fuck show, but that was close to finishing and almost by the time we had been seated and drinks arrived it was coming to a close. A short number by a lip sync lady boy followed and then the boys were back on stage for checking out. One boy immediately caught the attention of my companion and was soon to be brought over for a drink. I was finding it a little more difficult. I was really struggling to find something appealing. The selection on stage was somewhat limited. The table in front of ours were on to their second bottle of whiskey and drinking games. They had attracted 7 boys to their table and at one point as many as 11. After 10-15 mins some more boys did start filtering on to stage and I did in the end find a boy and called him over. And in that learnt a very valuable lesson - up close he looked completely different from when he was on stage. Up close he was really very cute and far more appealing. He said he was 23 and from Laos and had been working at the bar for 4 months. Up close and over drinks i noticed just how tiny he was. His hands delicate and half the size of mine. I was a little worried that i might break him.....Andy seemed to be getting on very nicely with his boy and we sat and watched a bit of the second round of acts on stage. I almost lost out on my boy as he had attracted the attention of someone else who was keen to off him so i had to make a decision and was glad that i took him back to my hotel. Back at the hotel and stripped i was struck even more about just how delicate and small my boy was. It was like everything was in miniature but perfectly formed - and so very cute. I was still worried he might break so spent quite some time testing that out! He had previously said that he did "everything" and whilst that was 98% true it didn't stop me having a great time. He took everything that was given and i was very pleased. Learning from mistakes of my earlier encounters, I remembered to get his Line and will try and hook up again with him before i leave if i can. He is travelling back to Laos on Wednesday so it might not happen. It was 2.30am when we parted so Tuesday was always going to be a quieter day for me. I wandered out in the morning. I had wanted to visit a local art gallery but it was closed so settled for breakfast at a cafe, wandered around a bit, picked up some street food (100% better than my previous experience!) and headed back to the hotel. The rest of the day was spent reading and chilling out with Netflix. Oh - and a Grindr hook up ;-) I have had sex at least once a day since my arrival so didn't want to let that record slip.....Quick meet but satisfying. So far on my trip i have been bottom, top, bottom, top, bottom, top which i think is a nice symmetry. I think i will get back in touch with my massage boy today and have him come over again on my last day in BKK. I head up to Chiang Mai tomorrow. Any recommendations? Are there any locations to off boys there? What are the prices like? PS - Big thanks @anddy. It was great to meet you and have some company for the evening. Thanks for taking the time to come out and meet me.

Not my usual type though - he just happened to be there. What's a boy to do....

Thought I would get back to it and updte on the weekend's adventures.... Got up and out on Saturday morning so i could get to Chatuchak early before the heat and the crowds really kicked in. Although some of the stalls are later opening, I was pleased that i got a good hour and a bit before it started to get really busy. Amazing place really. I do like my contemporary art and had heard that they were some good stalls there. I was sceptical when i heard it and even more so when i arrived. I couldn't imagine how the conditions would be anyway close to being suitable for displaying, but more importantly, preserving the work in such blistering heat and humidity. Of course, I hadn't reckoned on the little air conditioned units they had in the "art" section. Some really fantastic work. Some of it could easily find a home in the upmarket galleries back home. I picked up a really nice leather wallet of astonishing quality 1/3 of the price that it would have cost back home. I was doing really well until i all of a suddent found myself in the middle of the "animal" section. Just horrific. The puppy farming on display; tiny cages with little evidence of food or water anywhere in sight - huskie puppys with full on coats in 34 degree heat. Birds, fish, reptiles, and yet more puppies. Everywhere i turned just seemed to take me deeper into this animal hell. I couldn't get out fast enough. A different culture and attitude to animals but distressing even so. Market done and an afternoon nap, I headed out to make a visit to Lucky Boys. I stopped and grabbed a couple of chicken skewers but they turned out to be inedible. Cold in the middle and largely grisle. I took a couple of bites before spitting then out and dumping them. I really didn't fancy a dose of food poisioning! Lucky Boys - more polished and larger than Fresh Boys. Everything seemed a little bit more professional - the lights that bit more sophisticated, the boys a little bit more polished (?), the waiters a bit more busy. The boys on show looked great. A good range - young, smooth twinks, some muscle, some older. Aesthetically, they all looked great but something just didn't feel right to me. I was getting a lot of eye contact and gestures from number 80. He seemed really keen and would more often than not be my type but something didn't really work for me. I have been thinking about it a lot but still haven't been able to put my finger on it. I had a drink in there, settled up and moved on. I ended up back in Feesh Boys. Instantly recognized i was given a seat slap bang in the middle of the stage a row back. I had previously sat at the sitde on my last visit. I took a shine for a boy named something that sounded lile "Ow" although i am not sure if that was actually his name of whether i just misheard... He was 20 from Myanmar and very cute. When i went out i was thinking i would find myself a bottom, but my new companion was a top and i was happy with that. The older guy fromt he venue who had sat with me the previous night fetched him, i bought them both drinks, watched a bit of the show and off'd him. We headed back to my hotel (the Ascott), no issues at all taking him in, no ID checks or anything. He was not shy. Got straight to work and performed really well. I was certainly satisfied. Gave him his tip and a bit extra and he headed off. I forgot to get his Line which was silly of me as i would have had him again. Sunday I headeed out to Central Embassy. Before coming over a friend had mentioned the food hall so stopped in there for lunch. It was really, really good. Probably a lot more expensive then what i could have found elsewhere, but given the disaster of food the previous night, i was starving. I was not feeling on top form, the UK cold still lingering I decided to stay in. The effort of going out was just too much to think about. I had had loads of messages on Grindr from all manner of boys throught the day and agreed a late afternoon mssage in my room. A really nice 23 year old student who spoke fluent English. A bit of discussion and secured an appointment to include naked oil massage, getting rimmed and a blow job for 850bht which seemed a bit of a bargain. Well, his service was anything but cheap. He was excellent. I remembered to get his Line this time, although as i found him (or rather he found me) it was probably less important. I will almost certainly book him again on Tuesday. That's all for now. Am feeling pretty lethargic today. Last night as my first night with the jet lag truly conquered but i do not see a day of activity aahead of me. I might head out later and maybe check one of the other boy bars. I really shouldn't just keep going back to Fresh Boys variety being the spice and all that...

Yes, I usually would have called it quits at that point, don't really know why i didn't; I had just got off the plane though and needed to get some action in. In the end i was pleased i didn't send him home. Whilst the massage was really nothing special, he had a big dick and fucked me good, which was just what i was looking for.

That would usually be my preference as well, but when the opportunity presents itself who I am to turn it down....

Yeah i know, I'm a sucker for these things....well, you know what i mean.

Off to Lucky Boys tonight as long as i survive Chatuchak this morning!

You are absolutely right - she does! I had not thought of that but now you mention it. I don't mind the price really. It is no more than going to see a show at home, at there is just as much to look at here!

(Very early) Morning everyone, I finally made it to BKK arriving yesterday. It is a trip that has been a long time in the making and that i have look forward to for months now. I posted before Christmas thanking everyone who contributes to this forum - I wish that i have found it sooner. The info that people have posted here has been a fantastic help in preparing me for all the joys of Patpong and the boy bars. I was going to save up a few nights and post a review then, but fierce jetlag, combined with a bit of a cold that i developed the day before i left (thanks office colleagues that passed that on), I find myself up at 4.30am, so I thought i may as well make a start! I arrived into BKK at a very civilised time yesterday morning. The plane touched down at 9.45am after an 11 hour flight from London. I had upgraded to Premium Economy and was glad for every penny extra that had cost. Although the cold i am nursing really hit my sleep on the flight and i didn't feel too out of it on arrival. One of the advantages of Premium Economy is that you are sandwiched between First and Business which means that you are one of the first to get off the plane. I got my skates on and sped through to immigration ahead of most of the crowd and was through passport control pretty quickly and without any drama. When i left the UK it was cold and damp, maxing out at about 10 degrees C - arriving in BKK and it being 30/31 even at that early time was bit of a shock to the system - i had hoped that it would shock my cold into pissing off and leaving me alone, but no luck. Thanks to a recommendation i had seen on here somewhere, I had already pre-booked a transfer with SP Limousine and they were ready and waiting for me. I am sure it was significantly more costly than some of the other options that I could have gone for, but at 950bht straight to my hotel seemed like a price well worth paying and I was glad that I had spent the time and money setting up before I arrived; it took a load of stress out of the arrival process and delivered me to the Ascott hotel pain free. I had also pre-ordered my Thai SIM card and had that delivered to me in the UK before i left, so once in the car, I sorted my phone out and got online. Surprisingly, it was all really easy - no glitches, muddles, or stress arriving which is just what I needed after a couple of really hard months at work. I fired up Grindr on the journey over to the hotel and connected with a cute Thai guy. He was angling for lunchtime meet up. He was a top only which was fine. I am very Vers so depending on my overall mood will top or bottom. He had sent over pics and looked smooth, slim and big dicked - perfect! I met him in the lobby of the hotel; it is a good job he spotted me first as i would NEVER have recognised him from the pics he sent over! They must have been taken at least 10 years ago if not more. No problems at all in meeting him the lobby and going up to my room with him. When he arrived he also offered me a massage for an extra tip and I was very happy to go with it. 11 hours is a long time on a flight so was ready for some extra relaxation. He cost an initial 1,000bht for the meeting. I was glad, that even though the pics were really old, his dick measured up. The massage was ok, nothing to get excited about, but it was a welcome addition. He did however fuck really well! He knew how to use his sizable tool and was really just what I was looking for. He was a nice guy and gave him 1,500bht. I went for a (very) short walk around the block by the hotel and picked up a few bits at the 7-11, and then needed to sleep for a bit. At about 9.30pm I got a Grab and headed out to see what action i could find. I thought rather than dive straight in and look for a boy to off, I would have a bit of a wander, get my bearings and just see the lie of the land. I wandered around the Patapong night market for a bit, grabbed myself a pad thai, and kept my eyes open looking for all the venues so frequently discussed on here. It was a bit surreal having read about all these places for a couple of months being in front of me all of a sudden! I was really thankful for all the tips and advice so generously handed out on these pages as it made the night much easier to navigate. \ I ended up in Fresh Boys and only because a cute guy grabbed my attention outside... I arrived about 20mins before the show kicked off so got to see about 40 boys on stage in their small pieces of underwear. I was pleased with my choice of venue. Some good looking twink boys. Some eye contact being made and smiles but as i said before, it was more about taking a look tonight. I was met by a couple of mamasans - a mid 50s guy who sat next to me and an older ladyboy who was lovely. I bought them both a drink and just sat back and enjoyed the display. There was lots of dick grabbing and rubbing on stage as the boys did their parade. There were a couple I wouldn't have minded having a go on but I was still holding out for tonight. Nice variety, all much more on the twink side of things which is good and what I like. One of the boys was alarmingly skinny though and really needs feeding! It was almost painful to watch him. Thinking back, I don't think I have seen any comment on here about the price of drinks. I was drinking beer but it seemed all the drinks were the same price - 400bht, which seemed rally steep to me? I had got quite a bit of attention and bought mamasans a drink. Other hosts kept coming up and also asking for a drink but at those prices I just said "not tonight". The guy mamasan (the owner?) stayed with me and was nice. Asking what I was looking for, mentioning that they have a room upstairs to use if i didn't want to take boy back to my hotel. I didn't ask how much that would be... I stayed for the first three or four parts of the show. It opened with a ladyboy lip syncing. She was good. She had a headdress on that Elton John would have been proud of. The second act was a guy jerking off over a magzine. Impressive sized dick although somehow not erotic in the slightest. The third act was actually a pretty well choreographed light bdsm scene. A ladyboy whipping a leathered up boy, slightly more muscular than the boys from the stage earlier. It seemed she was getting quite into and was throwing the boy around. She threw him into one of the pillars at one point with some force. The resulting thump against the pilar was loud and percussive - it got a few double takes from the resident boys; i think it was a bit harder than usual! The last act i stayed for was a couple of boys in speedos getting lathered up, but given they kept their speedos on for what seemed like an age, it really wasn't all that interesting so i chose that moment to head out. Got a Grab back to the hotel and went up to my room., No sooner had I got back in, a Croatian muscle boy messaged me on Grindr. He really isn't my usual type but faced with the prospect of a 6ft 4" slab of muscle in my room was appealing. He was a bottom sub so after arranging a quick visit to my room, had him on his knees swinging off the end of my dick. He loved being spanked, so found the complimentary slippers in my wardrobe and used one on him before having him put his head on the floor and arse in the air and fucking him. Unexpected, but free fun late on my first night! Going to head out to a market this morning before the heat really starts to climb. Given that i am awake at a stupid early time, I will probably need to sleep this afternoon before heading back out tonight. I think Lucky Boys might be on the plan for tonight.....

Thanks - arrive tomorrow. Will check it out.

Thanks - too late for this trip sadly. I had done a bit of research but i booked before i found this forum! Oh well, I am sure i will work it out!

Thanks for the tip!

Thanks - will check it out when i arrive.

Is it me or is BDSM less prevalent in Thailand? I would have thought it would have more of a presence....

Great - thank you! Will check it out when i arrive.

Are they a physical shop or just online? I am looking on a phone but couldn't see anything that made it look like a physical place?

Does anyone know a place in Bangkok or Chiang Mai that sells fetish or bdsm gear? The kink scene seems surprisingly under represented in Thailand. Why is that?

Yes! At that price, no problem!

Firstly, thank you all for this forum! I stumbled across it whilst sat at home over the Christmas period and it has been really helpful - i wish i had seen it sooner! It has so much useful information for someone like myself who is off to Bangkok for the first time in just a couple of weeks. If i had seen the forum earlier i may have chosen differently! I am in the Ascott hotel and now think this might be a bit far away from the action - only a 20 min walk but probably too far for any boy i have off'd? What do you think? Was a little concerned to hear of the recent raids. I really don't fancy getting caught up in that! If there are any forum members about between the 17th and 30th January who want to meet up let me know. Would be nice to meet someone with the expert knowledge of the scene. I am really looking forward to it. I have six nights in Bangkok and then up to Chaing Mai for another six nights before heading back to the UK. Anyway - thanks for all your contributions to this forum!