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Right you are. And, although there are relatively few, you'll also find "erotic services" ads up and running in all of Europe and South America, as well as China, Egypt, India, Lebanon, Malaysia, Pakistan, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates. So much for free speech.

It feels to me like Craig Newmark and his fellow employees run CraigsList according to their own values. One of those values is not making a lot of money, at least not now. They make enough to keep the operation going, fund a nonprofit organization, and do whatever else they feel like doing. Now they have to start paying some major legal fees in support of other values. I'd guess the $5 ad fee goes towards that. It's too bad they've got to take on this battle, but I'm glad they are. Who better? I hope it goes quickly, although it could sure end up being a biggie. I really hope these folks hold fast. It's nice to see a company that doesn't dance to Wall Street's tune.

I don't find this Board to be especially hidebound. Maybe I just show up at the wrong times, but discussions here seem pretty nuanced and civil to me. With regard to gay marriage and gays in the military, it's a no brainer for me that we will end up on the winning side of both of those issues. I don't know when. If we look to Obama to do the heavy lifting on these issues, then we have to accept his timetable. If we want to speed up the change of public opinion on our own, we can do that too, and that will move them higher in the political agenda. As far as Carrie Prejean, she can believe whatever she wants, and tell anybody who'll listen to her. No skin off my ass.

According to his biography, he's about three hundred years younger than I am. But I'm willing to give it a try if he is.

Just so I've got this clear for my Bridge Club tonight, was it the escort singing "Onward Christian Soldiers", or was it Jude Law? I wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea.

The accused look on hopefully as Tampa Yanqui explains that any benefactions were for time only.

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All things being equal, I'd prefer fewer limits on what can be discussed. Politics are front and center these days, and I usually learn something from the posters here, so I like to hear various viewpoints and add when I can. Unfortunately, some folks haven't yet learned how to disgree with ideas without attacking the person who holds them. And it's not only here that political discussions foster ad hominem attacks. It's often the case that politics and rudeness go hand in hand. Since this site works hard to eliminate rudeness, it won't be easy to allow political discussions. But I'll throw out a few suggestions that might make it easier. They've probably all been considered, and may have already been rejected, but here goes: â— Establish a separate forum for political discussions, so readers can avoid them if they want to. â— Consider letting someone else moderate the political forum, since you don't like to. â— Set a fairly low bar for getting booted from the site; e. g., three strikes and you're out. There are other sites where civility isn't required. â— Make it clear why a post counts as a strike. You don't have to defend your reasoning, just explain it. That said, whatever you decide is fine by me. You've done a great job with this site just as it is, and you've got my vote. Unless of course the SCOTUS has a problem.

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So nice to see you, AdamSmith! It's good of you to come. Much better than last evening with That awful David Frum.

Plus adding cocaine and vodka to teenage testosterone. Even Harry Potter could have a rough time with that combo.

Just above your message is a dark brown bar with the thread title. On the right hand side is a blue box labelled "Options". Click the little triangle thingy, and a drop-down box will let you select your display mode. Mine also changed by itself a few days ago, and I chalked it up to sunspots.

Interesting! I wonder what the poppies meant? In the book, Dorothy (Everyman) and the Lion (Bryan) were brought down by them, but the Scarecrow (Farmer) and Tinman (Worker) were not. Could they have symbolized an early form of Swap Derivative?

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Forgive me, Mr. Blackwell . .

The first time I saw the Paterson skit, I thought it was funny. I like Fred Armeson, and his bumbling in front of the camera as he tried to get off stage was pretty good physical comedy. At the same time, I felt his one closed eye and one crossed eye was a bit much and might be offensive to those who have been personally touched by blindness. Most of us have the ability to laugh at the misfortunes of others, just as most of us have the ability to empathize and feel compassion. My understanding is that the Governor can and does laugh about his own blindness, but he doesn't laugh about the blindness of others. In fact, he's concerned about the inability of many blind people to get jobs that they are qualified to get. So he empathizes and takes their problems seriously, at the same time he jokes about his problems. I think the SNL Paterson skit gives us a chance to take a look at the balance between our schadenfreude and our compassion, and see how it changes as we have different life experiences and gain additional insights. In my opinion, that personal and public introspection is a good thing, so I wouldn't like to see the skit censored. But I could also see a more balanced skit with Jason Sudekis' Blagojevich giving Fred Armeson's Paterson tips on how get the most out of being governor: Now David, you always want to work with cash, so you're going to have to have somebody under the desk counting it for you. Someone you can trust. Someone like me. But Rod, I don't take bribes. Perfect! But you have to look the judge in the eye when you say that. At least with the good eye. But really Rod, I make enough as governor to live a very comfortable life. Why would I need to sell off a Senate seat? What would I spend all that money on? David, look at me. Who does your hair?

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Count me in. I find the whole concept of idols and heros fascinating, in part because of the dynamics at work. First, there's the desire by many of us humans to have heros. We like to idolize other people: teachers, cheerleaders, clergy, politicians, millionaires, royalty, athletes, entertainers, and all sorts of celebrities and "beautiful people". Not only doesn't their shit stink, we don't even like to think they break wind. Of course, it's unrealistic to put any human being on a pedestal that high. When we eventually find out they are fallible, as all of us are, we are absolutely devastated as our belief system is shaken. Of course, others of us don't like the idea of heros at all. We're delighted when one of them makes a blunder, and can't wait to say "I told you so." Next, there are the heros themselves. Some really like the idea of being idolized, build their own pedestals, and climb over others to reach the top. They're happy to serve as an example of all that's right and good in the world, and won't acknowledge that they make the same mistakes everyone else does. They'll even be pleased to tell other people how they should live their lives. When one of these heros eventually gets found out, he's branded a hypocrite and lands with a thud. Other "heros" are reluctant. They get put on the pedestal by somebody else. Some are aware of what's happening, and refuse to act as a role model. But many are tempted to go along for the ride, without understanding what may happen when it's over. Then, there are those who have discovered the power and money available by creating (and sometimes destroying) heros. The church can dress somebody up in a robe, and make him a gatekeeper to heaven. The politicians can get an actor elected governor or president. Kellogg's can put an athlete's picture on a box, and sell lots of cornflakes. While I do believe there are plenty of people in this world who deserve our respect for one thing or another, I'm generally reluctant to turn them into heros and hold them up as role models for everyone and everything. I feel we're all humans, and we all make mistakes. Well, except for Gandhi and Mother Teresa and a few of my fellow posters here at MER.

I hope you also gave him your card and told him about the Winter Blues Give-A-Way contest here on MER! I could handle three posts a day from Zac between now and April Fools' Day. By the way, was his girlfriend the one in the picture below? She's Vanessa Hudgens, and has allegedly been dating His Hotness since they starred together in High School Musical. Generally, I'm not attracted to the ladies, but I think I'd make an exception for her.

Looks like it's all over without even a tokin' reprimand. Phelps Backed by Sponsors After Marijuana Photo Feb 2, 10:46 AM (ET) By ROB HARRIS MANCHESTER, England (AP) -Two of Michael Phelps' leading sponsors expressed support for the Olympic great Monday, a day after he apologized for being photographed in a British newspaper inhaling from a marijuana pipe. Luxury Swiss watchmaker Omega termed Phelps' actions a private matter and "nonissue." Swim wear manufacturer Speedo called the 23-year-old American a "valued member of the Speedo team." Perhaps the marketing whizzes at Speedo can even get some mileage out of this, maybe with a "Michael Phelps is a grower!" line. If the girls can do it, why not the boys?