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Well, gentlemen, that’ll put a wrap on this part of the trip. I’m at BKK getting ready to head to the island. Thanks for all the insight both before and once I got here. I definitely had a lot more fun because of all you guys. Was great to meet a couple of you. Hope to shake hands and have a beer with the rest of you at some point. One of my biggest regrets? Not spending more time on the rooftop of my Airbnb. I finally went up last night. It’s beautiful. Last night I booked the same place for my last couple weeks here.
I’ll be posting my Koh Samui adventures over in that board. Then I’ll start a “Adventures of a Bangkok Sophomore” post when I return in October 😉

Glad to. You guys gave me tons of info to prepare me for this trip. I owed ya. I'll be back for Round 2 in Bangkok at the end of this month. I'll start a "Adventures of a Rookie in Koh Samui" thread over on that board for anyone interested.

Today was a low key day. Grindr #2 (Cambodian) and I met for lunch at an American place "Arno's". I think my palate has gone Asian because the burger and fries were way too greasy for me to enjoy. I NEVER leave fries behind. I think I ate about half of my order. The most enjoyable part was the salad. I asked my friends back home "Who am I? What have I become?" After we went to see the Spiderman movie at Paragon. I haven't been to a movie theater in forever... so it's probably not a new technology but the projections on the side walls is a cool new touch.
As for tonight, gotta pack and then we'll see where things go from there. I really just want to go back to see that smoke show guy at Jupiter. But I have plans for one more night with #2. #1 mentioned he had plans tonight but he just messaged me while #2 and I were at the movie. LOL I'm so not used to have this to deal with. You have no idea... haha takes me back to my 20s.

Much easier to do that in chiang mai. I concur nimman area is great. Also tried gentle massage before. Legit all male masseur center. But my fav place for massage was chevalier massage nearer to airport. Had legit massage and since the masseur is my type, i asked if he do more and he shyly said yes but just hj. Who am i to say no

Late Monday night update. We now have it ladies and gentlemen. Or gentlemen. Can't imagine we have many ladies in the crowd... at long last, here's my Top 10.
I wandered into Moonlight just as they were about to kick off the show. My initial impression was ugh here we go again when I walked in and saw a handful of guys stonefaced and emotionless standing on stage seeming to be miserable. The mamasan chatted me up but wasn't employing the high pressure sales tactics even though at the time I think I was the only customer in the place. Eventually there was some motion on the stage and guys cycled in and out. There were 4 or 5 cute guys out of the couple dozen or so.
I liked the layout of the place. You can't be far from the stage. Staff was decent... a few of the waitstaff were cute.
I'm impossible to offend, but I did cringe a little when they played a remix that had the Asian chick doing "Me So Horny, Me Love You Long Time." Evil me cackled laughing inside. One thing that set Moonlight apart is they were cool with you taking photos and video when they are doing the model lineup. I thought that's pretty brilliant on their part. Many will post it to social media ... or say on a message board with creepy old men. 😆 I'm sure the models hate it, but I had to wait to be told twice that it's kosher.
After they got past the awkward standing on stage thing, they finally got to the routines. I was glad the performances were from the actual models and not outdated extras or drag queens. There was a drag queen but she was accompanied by 2 of the dancers. The show was nowhere near the level of Jupiter, but much better than most in Silom.
Within 30 minutes the club was probably 2/3 full but mostly with groups of young women. One looked to be a bachelorette party.

Got the answer to my own question from earlier today btw at least for Moonlight. 2nd drink is 250 or 350 for a cocktail.
I stuck around for about an hour. I saw enough... Moonlight doesn't come in at the top of my Top 10... but it's far from the bottom. Without further adieu, here is my final top 10... I'm still debating on switching #1 and #2... it's so close.
Jupiter
Dreamboy
Freshboy
Moonlight
Super A
Goodboy
Banana Boy
Hotmale
Tawan
Natureboy
The night ended with a Bangkok downpour. I ducked into Foodland to try their chicken pad Thai hoping the rain would pass. Nope had to Grab. Have to give props to Foodland though... not for the chicken pad Thai... it was pretty forgettable. But they had staff out sweeping water off the walkway and a guy carrying a giant umbrella helped customers to and from their cars. You don't see that kind of service much in the US.

;)
Boyztown is in Pattaya City, while Supertown is a name used for the Jomtien Complex...

It was a fun night for sure. I am going to check out the raunchy though at some point when I go back in a couple weeks. 😜 My Airbnb I like in Bangkok is occupied the first few nights I get back so going to see the spots I missed in the whirlwind visit. But there will definitely be another night in Jomtien (I forget which one is Boyz Town and which one is Super Town lol). He was a great tour guide. We got a lot in in a short time that day.

I hear ya but I think we're saying the same thing... majority are looking for the financial stability... as I said earlier probably 80-90%. But I think the original poster's point was that you have better odds in places like Thailand of finding a younger dude into older. That's definitely true. I learned that in my first hour after landing in Bangkok and again today in Chiang Mai. My Grindr blew the f up in seconds with messages from guys that would be way out of my league back home. Yet on Samui, I was as invisible as I am in the US because it's basically Daytona Beach Part 2. 😆

Sniffing out money boys or those not being up front about it is pretty easy to me. Profiles kind of say it all ... at least most of the time. And if the profile doesn't do it, the nature of the chat dialog does. At least for me it's obvious. The dying grandmother/pet is terminally ill/need books for class or will get kicked out... it's a running joke among my buddies I travel to Colombia with. But those stories are from rent boys to begin with, so it's not as if true feelings were ever in the equation in the first place.

There are a couple guys in their 20s I've met in my Colombia visits that I connected with and still am in touch with. And I attribute it to the same thing... the exotic, being different, or like your theory ... the excitement of someone from a different culture. So to the original post's point, yeah I def think odds of finding something legit and not based on $ with a younger guy are better in places like this.

Dang it I'm reaction-banned again. I guess spreading too much kindness is frowned upon. Thanks for that list. Yeah certainly going to be gogo-bar free once he arrives lol.

Yes he does. Jason nailed it... I being the true Gemini I am do want both. I really need to fine a cloning specialist. 😆 Maybe they're cheaper in Thailand like other medical procedures. I do enjoy #1's company too. That one's a little easier to schedule some extra fun because he has a M-F 9 to 5 job teaching. That leaves daytime wide open plus he can't be out very late. But #1 is very fun behind closed doors. And he's fun to spend time with just doing date night stuff too.
Having this "problem" wasn't too tragic. It did wonders for my suffering self-esteem to have 2 really quality guys have interest in this aging former hottie. 😜 But hey I managed to complete the top 10 list and had 2 great massages too. And I certainly saved a lot of money. So that's good right? lol

Glad to. You guys gave me tons of info to prepare me for this trip. I owed ya. I'll be back for Round 2 in Bangkok at the end of this month. I'll start a "Adventures of a Rookie in Koh Samui" thread over on that board for anyone interested.

Today was a low key day. Grindr #2 (Cambodian) and I met for lunch at an American place "Arno's". I think my palate has gone Asian because the burger and fries were way too greasy for me to enjoy. I NEVER leave fries behind. I think I ate about half of my order. The most enjoyable part was the salad. I asked my friends back home "Who am I? What have I become?" After we went to see the Spiderman movie at Paragon. I haven't been to a movie theater in forever... so it's probably not a new technology but the projections on the side walls is a cool new touch.
As for tonight, gotta pack and then we'll see where things go from there. I really just want to go back to see that smoke show guy at Jupiter. But I have plans for one more night with #2. #1 mentioned he had plans tonight but he just messaged me while #2 and I were at the movie. LOL I'm so not used to have this to deal with. You have no idea... haha takes me back to my 20s.

Late Monday night update. We now have it ladies and gentlemen. Or gentlemen. Can't imagine we have many ladies in the crowd... at long last, here's my Top 10.
I wandered into Moonlight just as they were about to kick off the show. My initial impression was ugh here we go again when I walked in and saw a handful of guys stonefaced and emotionless standing on stage seeming to be miserable. The mamasan chatted me up but wasn't employing the high pressure sales tactics even though at the time I think I was the only customer in the place. Eventually there was some motion on the stage and guys cycled in and out. There were 4 or 5 cute guys out of the couple dozen or so.
I liked the layout of the place. You can't be far from the stage. Staff was decent... a few of the waitstaff were cute.
I'm impossible to offend, but I did cringe a little when they played a remix that had the Asian chick doing "Me So Horny, Me Love You Long Time." Evil me cackled laughing inside. One thing that set Moonlight apart is they were cool with you taking photos and video when they are doing the model lineup. I thought that's pretty brilliant on their part. Many will post it to social media ... or say on a message board with creepy old men. 😆 I'm sure the models hate it, but I had to wait to be told twice that it's kosher.
After they got past the awkward standing on stage thing, they finally got to the routines. I was glad the performances were from the actual models and not outdated extras or drag queens. There was a drag queen but she was accompanied by 2 of the dancers. The show was nowhere near the level of Jupiter, but much better than most in Silom.
Within 30 minutes the club was probably 2/3 full but mostly with groups of young women. One looked to be a bachelorette party.

Got the answer to my own question from earlier today btw at least for Moonlight. 2nd drink is 250 or 350 for a cocktail.
I stuck around for about an hour. I saw enough... Moonlight doesn't come in at the top of my Top 10... but it's far from the bottom. Without further adieu, here is my final top 10... I'm still debating on switching #1 and #2... it's so close.
Jupiter
Dreamboy
Freshboy
Moonlight
Super A
Goodboy
Banana Boy
Hotmale
Tawan
Natureboy
The night ended with a Bangkok downpour. I ducked into Foodland to try their chicken pad Thai hoping the rain would pass. Nope had to Grab. Have to give props to Foodland though... not for the chicken pad Thai... it was pretty forgettable. But they had staff out sweeping water off the walkway and a guy carrying a giant umbrella helped customers to and from their cars. You don't see that kind of service much in the US.

Monday night update…
coming to you live from a Grab en route to moonlight. The Muay Thai might was fun from the front row. Couple of the fighters were 🔥
stay tuned for the not all that highly anticipated completion of my top 10.

Monday afternoon update...

Stopped by Arena and Titan for a moment since that shopping center is pretty much across the street from my Airbnb. Just popped into both for a second as I'm getting ready to head to the boxing event. Arena is definitely not for me, but if you're a muscle lover, I totally see the appeal. Walking in to a gym setting is an interesting gimmick. All the guys were beefy and older as advertised. Just not my thing.
Titan had a super cute twink at the front desk. I've been getting their daily lineups on Line. From all I read, the price is too high. And none of the therapists seem next level. But they're all reasonably cute. Titan might get some business from me if I get the late night hornies since they're so close and open until midnight. Didn't go past the lobby but seems very upscale. I guess it should be for that price right? I think they're fighting an uphill battle given their location. Very little foot traffic as they're tucked away in the back of a really basic shopping center.

Last I talked with you guys Bangkok had a pretty substantial lead. Chiang Mai scored MAJOR points today after I finally started wandering around Nimman. If this part of the city is affordable this might be the spot. Wow. I love the vibe. Indy hipster but not dingy. Cute little coffee spots. People smiling everywhere. (Could be said for lots of Thailand I know.) I’ve been roaming around all afternoon and can’t get enough of this neighborhood. The ironic thing is I originally booked my Airbnb here. My memory is terrible so I have no idea why I changed. I love my condo that I’m in, but this area is definitely my favorite of any neighborhood I’ve seen in Thailand so far.
This would definitely be the training wheels way of moving to Thailand. It’s got an upscale western feel.
Currently sipping my 2nd coffee of the day (usually a monthly amount for me) at Roastiniyom. Lots of PLUs as @bkkmfj2648 calls em. Yet it’s not a flamboyant or a tacky gayborhood.
Got a legit massage at Gentle. It was nice. Beautiful facility. Masseur was super cute. Gay friendly but no funny business. There’s a sign in the room that says “no prostitution.” 700 baht. Tipped 100. That’s enough right? I have no idea what you tip a legit masseur. 😆

Tell me about it lol. He said he wanted to but I didn’t think he would actually do it. I do enjoy him lots. Looking forward to showing him around once I know more cool spots like Nimman. He mentioned there’s a live music place he wants to check out. (He’s a music teacher.) so if anyone has any ideas of spots he might like lmk. 🙏

It’s great to read that your introduction to Pattaya was so positive. You can certainly count on @bkkmfj2648 to show you around, he’s great company! If I’ve got it right, you only spent a short time in Pattaya City and didn't visit the raunchiest bar/show there? I’ve had some really fun nights there myself with @bkkmfj2648 , where we put hands on and tongues in multiple guys... oops. ;) lol In short: there is still something to discover during the next visit.

Friday September 4 Update...
Good morning from Jomtien.  Thanks to the local legend @bkkmfj2648 I got the whirlwind all in one night tour of both Pattaya City and Jomtien. I took the BTS from Silom to the airport and he virtually navigated me to the $5 busses to Pattaya. Sat next to a cute (but straight) chatty twink from Hong Kong who was going to Pattaya to visit friends. Was lucky to hit no traffic and arrived in Pattaya about 3 hours after leaving Silom. I wasn't the only American in town... 5,000 sailors made me #5,001.  We saw a small sample of the military boys in town, but seems like they stayed far to the north near their ship.

I don't have a bar by bar breakdown because honestly it's all a blur and they run together in my mind.  But my overall thought... I'm glad I made the trip and when I come back from Chiang Mai in October, I think I'll spend a couple more nights here in Jomtien. Pattaya was kind of run down as I anticipated.  But I didn't realize Jomtien would be so different.  The 2 were one and the same in my head before this visit.  Supertown in Jomtien was a much nicer vibe, cleaner and fun.  Now I will have to say we went through Pattaya's Boyz Town at a very early hour before the bars got jumpin'.  I'm just going off the neighborhood walk.
We first grabbed a bite to eat at Tinnie's in Jomtien.  I hesitantly ordered chicken parm.  When a restaurant features several types of cuisine in the US, that's usually not a good sign.  While it wasn't the best chicken parm I've had, I didn't regret the choice.  @bkkmfj2648 gave me the rundown for the night. Next we did something I'd been wanting to do but had no idea how they work... we jumped in the back of one of those pickup trucks where you just hop on and off for 15 baht.  Fortunately he knew the routes and process because I'd have been too chickenshit to try it myself.
When we arrived in Pattaya City I startled him because I was having an orgasm and heart attack at the same time at the sight of what might have been the most beautiful guy I'd seen on this trip so far. He wasn't Asian. Probably American. He had a chiseled face of art, was wearing a loose white shirt and pants... I was just stunned. As for the rest of PC, it was less beautiful.  But I'm glad we checked it out.  Had I not been up at 6am, we might have gone back.  But I was dozing off at the of the bars by 11pm.
When we got back to Jomtien, we caught the boys on the street bars doing their dance routines.  The thing that struck me right away was they actually appeared to be enjoying themselves. They smiled.  They laughed.  They pranked each other on stage.  So many of the guys on stage in Bangkok just evoke pity and sorrow as they stand there motionless waiting to get off'd.  These boys were not sending off the "my life is miserable, save me" vibe.

Now I like younger guys... generally college up to about 28.  Think Ryan Phillippe in Cruel Intentions. That's my sweet spot.  A little muscle is ok. But twink status is my thing.  The boys in Jomtien looked too young for even me lol... I didn't think that was even possible.  Most were about 100 pounds and 5'2.  (Yours truly is well over 6 feet tall.). I was assured these guys were all in their 20s, but man I'd have to have 4 forms of ID if I were to off many of them.

We bounced around from bar to bar all night... from "pillow bars" to cabarets to the street bars.  All had a unique appeal.  I really can't pick a favorite.  There were some really cute massage boys sitting outside their parlors too. I liked the vibe of Supertown.  It's more unified than Silom where I"m staying in Bangkok.  I like that it's one continuous stretch without having to wander a few blocks.  

Besides the guys appearing to be happy, the other most striking thing was the detail in all the shows. The choreography and costumes... it's not usually a big draw for me. I'm visiting places like this to stimulate other senses.  But the effort these guys in all the bars in Supertown put in is really impressive.

I tipped many of the talent... but not as much as @bkkmfj2648.  I think the dude funded a few college educations last night.  I didn't do an off since honestly I wasn't horned up... my Grindr guy back in Bangkok has kept me satiated.  Plus after waking up at 6am (unnecessarily ugh) and the trip from Silom to the airport to Pattaya on the bus, I was going to bed solo.  I snagged a few Line numbers in case any want to have a session this morning, but most gave the impression nothing happens for them before noon. I get it.  I was that age.  But I'm a morning wood kinda guy lol

Heading back to Bangkok today but the Pattaya excursion was definitely worth it.  Pretty sure I'll do a 2-3 day visit when I come back in October. 

Last I talked with you guys Bangkok had a pretty substantial lead. Chiang Mai scored MAJOR points today after I finally started wandering around Nimman. If this part of the city is affordable this might be the spot. Wow. I love the vibe. Indy hipster but not dingy. Cute little coffee spots. People smiling everywhere. (Could be said for lots of Thailand I know.) I’ve been roaming around all afternoon and can’t get enough of this neighborhood. The ironic thing is I originally booked my Airbnb here. My memory is terrible so I have no idea why I changed. I love my condo that I’m in, but this area is definitely my favorite of any neighborhood I’ve seen in Thailand so far.
This would definitely be the training wheels way of moving to Thailand. It’s got an upscale western feel.
Currently sipping my 2nd coffee of the day (usually a monthly amount for me) at Roastiniyom. Lots of PLUs as @bkkmfj2648 calls em. Yet it’s not a flamboyant or a tacky gayborhood.
Got a legit massage at Gentle. It was nice. Beautiful facility. Masseur was super cute. Gay friendly but no funny business. There’s a sign in the room that says “no prostitution.” 700 baht. Tipped 100. That’s enough right? I have no idea what you tip a legit masseur. 😆

Thank you sharing, it’s very sad indeed. The shark attacks hit home because now the warm weather is back, my friend was just suggesting a sailing trip. Needless to say I’ll be staying off the water for a while.
As for the kill order, I read on another message board (written by someone privy to the decision making process) that it was put in place because while the victim’s body hasn’t been recovered, the shark was sighted with a visible dismembered leg caught on its teeth. The family pleaded for his remains so they had something to bury. All things considered - the proximity to shore, the shark’s intent to hunt, and the possibility of more people seeing the distressing sight of a shark swimming around with human remains protruding from its mouth - they made the difficult call to kill on sight.
I’ll keep this brief as I could - boringly - go on all day. The sharks in Thailand are of the more docile and shy variety, rather than the great white or bull sharks found in Australia. Surfing is also a major sport, people even go surfing in famously shark-infested waters in order to chase the perfect reef break.

Since it's on Hornet I will take your word that is just therapeutic only. Way he put it is clever indeed.

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Time to go back to Fake Club

This is a short report on my current visit to Bangkok. Not much to report on the sex front, as I already had some stamps lined up before arrival. A brief comment about Suvarnabhumi. I arrived mid afternoon at the satellite terminal, train quick to Main terminal. Quite a lot of people, surprisingly, but Priority Lane available for old people such as myself! The whole thing took about 10 minutes. No luggage, so picked up local sim, and straight to Hotel car and to hotel. As it is rainy season quite a lot of traffic.
Started stamp collecting that evening, with pre ordered stamp, and afterwards wandered about trying to get rid of my jet lag. First thing to notice was that the centre was pretty empty. Occasional bursts of very heavy rain followed by intervals of quite nice weather, not too hot about 31°. Went down Soi 4 Again, not that busy, I was the only person sitting outside banana bar. Guido was thete his place perhaps half full. He left with rucksack, early. Got a little busier towards 10:00, but a long way short of peak season. Wander back down Pat Pong 2, popped into Good boys and Fresh boys, not many customers, I prefer twinks, and the boys on offer were good looking but I was already spent, having licked my stamp.
Following day, not doing a great deal went, down to the river to have a meal overlooking the scenery. Met an old friend, who has a live in partner from Myanmar for supper. He has lived in Bangkok for 10 or 11 years and confirmed that it was very much off season at present. I again walked down Pat pong but without seeing anything that attracted my interest. Decided on boring foot massage, instead of the more exciting sort.

Today met up with gay guide from Siam Roads, Mac, whom I have known for a long time. He has moved out of Bangkok, as there is no work, but came in so that I could take him out to lunch down by the river to place called The RiverTree restaurant In
Nonthaburi. Lovely view, I was the only foreigner, shrimp balls, mixed vegetables, other interesting looking things that I did not know what they were, steamed rice with chicken for both of us, coke and steamed sea bass. No alcohol as it was election day. The whole thing was 1,200 baht, absolute bargain.
Now back in hotel considering whether to look for another stamp. There have been a number on offer, two of whom I have licked on previous visits. Grindr has also been pretty busy. I had a choice of half a dozen or so attractive guys. It's just a question of stamina!

Off to Siem Reap on Tuesday. Stamps available there! Will consider gay massage, though choice rather limited.

Ok, just a quick reply.
I've just returned from a walk down to the beach involved. Normally on a Sunday it is full of people just sitting on the sand enjoying the view.
Today the beach was deserted, apart from a group of the victim's friends gathered around the floral tributes. There was lots of reminiscing and lots of tears - including my own.
And it turns out he was a neighbour of mine, although his face is not familiar.
I can't understand why the government wants to hunt down the shark and kill it. We go into their environment, not the other way round.
Lots of Aussies travel to Thailand for the beaches, especially the islands. Koh Samui and Phuket are particularly popular. I've never heard of sharks being a problem anywhere in Asia.
I wonder why? Is the water too warm?

Fortunately all the warnings on my little bag of charcoal activated pills were in Thai so clearly they don't apply to me. 😜