Draden

Okay good to know. My first trip to Thailand was last year and I went to KMan Spa twice. Neither time did they ask to negotiate a price, it just proceeded to the full deal post-massage (however, they each all spoke virtually no English which might have been the reason).
Each time I left a 50% overage on the minimum tip (1500 TBH vs 1000 TBH), which I based on the one fellow here who has a review blog (can't recall the name) and said his max tip is 1200 TBH. But now it sounds like I was undercutting them by about 1500 TBH! I wonder if I'll even be allowed back?! LOL. 
Anyway, thanks for guidance! 

don't worry , you paid fairly considering area. Upper limit of 2500-3000 would be applicable to more upscale places in such areas, like Jey or Prince

yes or try to talk him to make himself fully available for the said 1000 , further from the centre probability of that happening will increase

Great report. 
I'll be in Thailand late May --- I've only been once before. Can someone remind me what the tipping etiquette is at massage places? Like if the massage is 500 THB, and the listed minimum tip is 1000 THB, how much should I actually tip roughly?

From Dubai to Bangkok 
My first day
 
Started my journey to the land of smiles via Qatar Airways from Dubai DXB leaving 23:00hrs for an hour of journey to Doha DOH, where my connecting flight is after 3 hours.
Around 0300hrs Doha Qatar time, my journey continues towards Bangkok BKK landed 13:00hrs. Total flight journey spent was 9 hours on air and 3 hours layover.
My flight landed in Suvarnabhumi's satellite terminal, ridden a transfer train to the main terminal then made a quick pass to immigrations at the arrivals hall. The queue and immigration clearance itself only took less than 5 mins, there's not much people and plenty of open immigration counters.
While at the airport, I went directly down to the lowest level and change USD300 getting THB9990 in exchange (USD 1 = THB 33.30) for travelling expense and little pocket money. Then I had also bought a Tourist Sim via AIS for 15 days with 30GB data at 5G max speed that cost about THB999.
I didn't get a single sleep throughout but still decided to take the mass transportation to my hotel, around 14:00hrs I was already riding the Airport Link Train towards Phaya Thai station. From Phaya Thai I have changed trains to the BTS sky train topping up my old Rabbit card and alighted the train towards Siam, then again changed train to Silom route towards Saladeng Station.
I arrived at The Raya Hotel by 15:15 to check in got my old room back at the 7th floor. Ohh did you know there is a Taco Bell now and beauty shop at the ground floor of the building beside the entrance? The construction site on the right side of Raya is still there but no works are being done so I did not hear any noise coming from there.
The rooms in the Raya did not change, I did not see any damages from the recent earthquake aside from the 2 cracks in the door frame of my room seen from the inside. 
I have rested and freshen up a bit before I head towards Arena in Silom Plaza via motorcycle ride booked via the Bolt app which cost me THB 29. 
I forgot that they do not provide a helmet and how fast these guys go. I reached the Silom Plaza in just 2 minutes. 
Walking from the entrance of Silom Plaza towards the lift, you can see someone from the floors someone from Arena gesturing and inviting you to come. 
When I reached the floor the same guy escorted me inside and have me sit with the manager to choose what massage and how long and which boy I wanted while around 10 to 14 boys (ranging from muscle daddies to hunks) start taking off their shirts to catch my attention for me to choose them.
The costs are the same as I remember. I have chosen the oil massage of 1.5hrs for THB 790 with the minimum tip of THB 1500 and picked the boy Tau as my masseur.
I was not asked about the type of room but I was led to a small room with a single massage table with an shower cubicle that could fit two, this room looks better and cleaner than what I remember with clean white walls and AC though points directly at the massage table was not too cold and temperature overall was good.
My masseur Tau was not the big muscly guy I would normally pick from here but was on the hunkier side. He did a good job with the massage, I was not expecting he'll do deep tissue massage which me who only goes for a massage always goes for a swedish one. Pressure and coverage wise he was spot on from the foot towards my upper body to the neck. Extras was also good. From body to body to him giving me a good head while he played my bum 😁. He tried to top me but I declined as I'm not in the bottoming mood so he continued to use his mouth and tongue to play between my 🍆 and my sensitive tiddies while using his fingers to play with my bum hole, thank god he doesn't have long nails.
Anyway in the end both of us came and we concluded with showering and continued playing with each other in the shower, Tau was very very attentive from the showers to drying me off, I was quite satisfied and gave him THB2000 as a tip.
I left Arena around 18:15 back to my hotel via another motorcycle ride to change clothes and by 18:20 ridden another motorcycle ride heading towards Rajadamnern Stadium for the Muay Thai show which will start at 19:00hrs which I booked through an app called Klook yesterday.
Riding this motorcycle taxis here in Bangkok sure is heart pounding, in the Philippines there is this thing we called  ''Buwis'Buhay" where in context means Thrilling to the point of being to risking your life, kind of ride. From The Raya up to the Rajadamnern Stadium it only took less than 15 mins with all the high speed zooming between cars, where it normally goes to 25-40 mins with a regular taxi.
I booked it on a Saturday as the best matches are held during weekends especially on Saturdays. I booked a Club-Tier seat just above the lowest tier. They gave me a good upper level seat not too far from the ring and gets to soak up with all the tension and excitement of everyone there. Most of the people in the audience were westerners and at that time maybe only 1/3 I see were asian. The show normally takes up to 2-3 hours but today was different and they told us there was an match/event today and will be until midnight.
Ohhh did I mentioned that they have free flowing beer sponsored by Leo all throughout the night? I finished I think about 5 cups (about 500ml each) and got a bit tipsy, so around 21:30 I decided leave and to hail another motorcycle ride back to my hotel. My tipsyness somehow lessen a bit during that ride home as I was clinging to the handle for my dear life not fall hahaha 😭 🤣 😭 
My plan was to rest for a bit and freshen up so I can head over to gogo bars to ogle some big boys at the Atlas or visit some of the gogo bars I have not been into yet (freshboys/dreamboys/moonlight and maybe Jupiter). 
Maybe due to the fact that I didn't get an ounce of sleep until then plus Jetlag plus the beers if drunk, I didn't realize it I have slept on my bed as soon as sat down and woke up 01:30 😭😭😭 the only thing I could do then was just go to 7-11 to buy my missing toiletries and a new snacks to much on before going back to sleep.
So that's how my first day went hahaha 🤣 🤣 
Today I woke up around 0900 and took my breakfast and been lazing around. I don't have any plans for the day so I just rest up and adjust my body clock to match Bangkok and in the evening I'll visit the gogo bars and try my luck.
 
 

I will be flying tonight and reaching BKK by tomorrow afternoon for the 3rd time visiting Thailand and as a solo traveller.
 
Like my 2 previous short visits, I will just be doing some touristy stuff and whoring activities all throughout the week.
 
I don't have a fixed planned itinerary but just a small note of things to try and do that I missed last few times. I like to do things on my own pace.
 
After reading so many helpful and interesting trip reports from everyone here, it will be my turn to do so.
I'll try to update after a few days after reaching Bangkok, please know that I'm not a seasoned writer so kindly understand if report is messy once it's up.
 
So excited to be back 😁
 

This is a bit off-topic, but since I started this thread I'm going to indulge myself. 
Last year I was in BKK and I tried Grindr and had a few (non-MB) guys come over. I was staying in Phrom Phong and each of them indicated they lived in the neighborhood, and two of them offered to host instead of coming to my hotel (I declined to let them host). These were mostly guys in their early 20s (I'm late 30s). They all spoke unaccented English, one of them had been to university in the UK, and at least another one owned a personal car (not a motorcycle). A third wasn't Thai at all but was Chinese on holiday in Bangkok and, from conversation, seemed to have no discernible source of income but would go from one holiday to another. The other two (who were Thai) were somewhat evasive about their occupations when I asked, though one recently texted me and said he's coming to visit friends in the U.S. in July. Anyway, based on the foregoing, I wildly speculated these guys were probably either of an upper socioeconomic class in Thailand or part of an organized crime syndicate LOL.
Anyway, is this all usual or customary or was it just something I experienced or was it just the neighborhood I happened to be in? 

"you too big" is a complaint, but it's also a compliment, so there's less loss of face(for both parties) than naming the real reason for refusal, whatever it might be.

I was in BKK last year and went to KMan-Spa twice. On their website they have "T" and "T&B" on each guy's profile ... "T&B" are willing to bottom which were the only ones I tried. That said, one had great difficulty and we eventually stopped and finished using alternate methods (which was fine) and the other acted like I had a 12" dick (I don't). So, anyway, size seems to be an issue, even if your size is average. I'm not entirely sure why that's the case with professionals. 

I can only say that in my opinion labels are often useless and when door close but wallet opens things  may change. Threw chemistry or lack of it into mix and lables may peel of quite fast. 
I already mentioned member who confided that certain super macho hunk , well known to me , bottomed for him . I considered it BS and wondered why even need for  such fake boast  as we are good friends . Then guy I question on next meeting volunteered that he bottomed and liked it . I almost chocked hearing it and no , it was not choke on his erect cock. Ever since I know if weather is right , all is possible.
It looks that Raposa posted more or less the same conclusion above  at the same time
 

I know this is late but I went to all three last year so can give a brief overview. 
- Independence: The first time you go they have you meet on a street corner outside a metro station. I know that sounds sort-of sketchy but it's fine. The guy will show-up and approach you and ask if you're [your name]. He then walks you back to the shop which is down a dark alley (again, I know that sounds strange, but it's Japan so is fine) roughly a block and a half away. If you go a second or subsequent time you can just go straight to the place and not deal with the pick-up. The guys are only vaguely like what they appear in the photos, by which I mean the photos were not merely smoothed but there was some very creative lighting and - frankly- amazing work by a skilled photographer. No complaints at all by me, just for your awareness. The interior of the shop is the cleanest of them all. 
- DG: This one doesn't have en suite showers so you are taken to the room, the guy comes in, you get undressed, then he looks out the door to make sure the hallway is clear and you go to the shower at the end of the hall. Then back again after. Only went here once. The guy was exactly how he appeared in the photo absent minor blemishes (i.e. acne). This is also a studio apparently; if you Google the Kanji character name of a guy there's a chance you might find a movie he's been in. They have a small, but multi-story, building and it appears - though I'm not entirely sure - that the guys are actually working in their call center handling customer service questions (for their video websites) when they're not with a client. At least, when I went there, I entered the wrong floor and walked into what looked like a call center, thought I was in the wrong place, but one of the guys immediately jumped up and politely took me to a room on the next floor up, got me settled, asked who I was there to see, and then went and brought him in. 
- TK: I went there twice and saw two different guys. In both cases, the guys were actually better-looking in person than their photos on the website, by quite a bit. Almost as if they did the opposite as what Independence did and ugo-ed them up. This is probably the most run-down -- in terms of facility -- of the three but not awful or anything. 
All three had condoms on-site, though they were One Size Fits Small, so you might prefer to bring your own. It seems clear that bare is not an option. 

Don't panic. Worst which may happen is need to show finger to one of those wives.
Need if that perhoas 0.236 %

Right, tell them you want this and this masseur and you will get him

yes

Yes, thanks for pointing out that something can be illegal due to violations of civil code, not simply criminal code. In California, defamation is a violation of civil code, but one cannot go to jail for this:
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/personal-injury/harm-to-reputation/defamation/
"Defamation is an invasion of the interest in reputation. Under California law, it is a broad term for false statements made that cause damage to someone’s good standing. California Civil Code (Cal. Civ. Code) §44 states that defamation is affected by either libel or slander. If a statement is made verbally, it is slander. If made in writing, it is libel. Cal. Civ. Code §45 and Cal. Civ. Code §46 provide the definitions for both libel and slander. In some states, libel can sometimes be charged as a crime and be punishable by a fine and jail time. However, in California, people who have been defamed are limited to their right to recover damages in a civil lawsuit...". 
In Thailand, defamation can result in criminal penalties:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Criminal_7
"The Thai Criminal Code provides that:
Section 326. Defamation
Whoever, imputes anything to the other person before a third person in a manner likely to impair the reputation of such other person or to expose such other person to be hated or scorned, is said to commit defamation, and shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding one year or fined not exceeding twenty thousand Baht, or both.".
One can certainly debate whether defaming someone should result in possible jail time. However, I believe only a madman would argue that defamation shouldn't subject the defamer to any legal consequences. 

Not taking sides one way or the other on the underlying issue here, however, technically Defamation is only a criminal offense in 17 U.S. states. And even in those states, it can only be criminally prosecuted in narrow cases (generally involving malicious and false accusations of sexual immorality) and rarely is ever actually prosecuted.  In the rest of the U.S., Defamation is a matter for civil litigation. 
If this restaurant were in the U.S. it would probably have a good case for a tortious interference lawsuit provided it could prove the individual conspired with other people to leave reviews, knowing they'd never eaten there, and with the objective of interfering with the commercial success of the business. 

Not taking sides one way or the other on the underlying issue here, however, technically Defamation is only a criminal offense in 17 U.S. states. And even in those states, it can only be criminally prosecuted in narrow cases (generally involving malicious and false accusations of sexual immorality) and rarely is ever actually prosecuted.  In the rest of the U.S., Defamation is a matter for civil litigation. 
If this restaurant were in the U.S. it would probably have a good case for a tortious interference lawsuit provided it could prove the individual conspired with other people to leave reviews, knowing they'd never eaten there, and with the objective of interfering with the commercial success of the business. 

Mmmmm...is this in BKK or Pattaya ?
I presume in BKK he is not a MB but I got this today from a guy who wanted me to wear lingerie, I just asked him directly are you a MB ?
He got offended but better to ask I believe 

My view: you are entitled to assume he's not a MB.
No need ask "how much".
 

I probably didn't use the correct word. By "alley" I just meant a pedestrian walkway (at least I think it was, I didn't see any cars, but it was dark). 
That might have been the same one I had. 

I'm in Tokyo now.
Thanks to all these valuable tips, I had fun this evening.

Used "Independence" as recommended.
You can just send an email. No need to use the elaborate form.

The location was not on a back alley, but just about twenty yards from the train station exit on the street that runs parallel to the train route. Otherwise, Draden's account above of his experience with Independence was identical to mine.
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I took the ¥ 18,000 option ($115 thanks to the very weak yen) for a one-hour "swap": 30 minutes with one young man, then 30 minutes with a second one. The price is all inclusive and covers the room and all fees. No extra tip is expected.
Both guys were good at kissing and sucking. Both were good bottoms, although one was small and extremely tight.
One looked like his photo. However, the second guy was 6' and looked nothing like the 5'9" Dylan I'd picked, but he did speak fairly good English as was claimed for Dylan. And he was enthusiastic and talented.
I was erroneously thinking that the cost in Tokyo was wildly higher than the cost in São Paulo. But on reflection, that is not true. At Lagoa my total for the entry fee, two rooms, and two garotos could easily be 600 reals ($116, almost exactly the same price I paid in Japan this evening)!
Of course, in Brazil we get to do more preliminary screening — but that does not always guarantee the ace performances I got tonight in Japan. I still prefer Brasileiros and their saunas, but I'm happily surprised that my days in Tokyo will include some good company in bed. 

Ask the shop by Line a few hours in advance, and a lot of masseurs will be available on request.
I always message in English, which never gave any problems.

I recently used Independence.   The young man (20) was just as described on the website.    There site has good search features. I gave Independence my top 3 choices from their site and my first choice was available.     Their communication was good.  
Reservation was all done via email, arrangements make to meed outside a metro station.    I was 5 minutes early and he was 7 minutes late.   But that was not a big problem.   He met me, and we walked about a block to the place.    I paid him and he took the money downstairs and was back in a minute.   
He did not speak any English, other to day I was "Big". (language was not a problem, we knew what we were there for).   Im just average by US standards.    We got undressed and showered , that was a nice way to start.    Then the fun started.   
He was very satisfying, like to kiss, suck and topped me .  All in all money well spent.  
I find it amazing how many of these establishments there are and so many boys available .   Not to here in Dallas, probably a good thing, saves money.   lol. 
 

I know this is late but I went to all three last year so can give a brief overview. 
- Independence: The first time you go they have you meet on a street corner outside a metro station. I know that sounds sort-of sketchy but it's fine. The guy will show-up and approach you and ask if you're [your name]. He then walks you back to the shop which is down a dark alley (again, I know that sounds strange, but it's Japan so is fine) roughly a block and a half away. If you go a second or subsequent time you can just go straight to the place and not deal with the pick-up. The guys are only vaguely like what they appear in the photos, by which I mean the photos were not merely smoothed but there was some very creative lighting and - frankly- amazing work by a skilled photographer. No complaints at all by me, just for your awareness. The interior of the shop is the cleanest of them all. 
- DG: This one doesn't have en suite showers so you are taken to the room, the guy comes in, you get undressed, then he looks out the door to make sure the hallway is clear and you go to the shower at the end of the hall. Then back again after. Only went here once. The guy was exactly how he appeared in the photo absent minor blemishes (i.e. acne). This is also a studio apparently; if you Google the Kanji character name of a guy there's a chance you might find a movie he's been in. They have a small, but multi-story, building and it appears - though I'm not entirely sure - that the guys are actually working in their call center handling customer service questions (for their video websites) when they're not with a client. At least, when I went there, I entered the wrong floor and walked into what looked like a call center, thought I was in the wrong place, but one of the guys immediately jumped up and politely took me to a room on the next floor up, got me settled, asked who I was there to see, and then went and brought him in. 
- TK: I went there twice and saw two different guys. In both cases, the guys were actually better-looking in person than their photos on the website, by quite a bit. Almost as if they did the opposite as what Independence did and ugo-ed them up. This is probably the most run-down -- in terms of facility -- of the three but not awful or anything. 
All three had condoms on-site, though they were One Size Fits Small, so you might prefer to bring your own. It seems clear that bare is not an option. 

I know this is late but I went to all three last year so can give a brief overview. 
- Independence: The first time you go they have you meet on a street corner outside a metro station. I know that sounds sort-of sketchy but it's fine. The guy will show-up and approach you and ask if you're [your name]. He then walks you back to the shop which is down a dark alley (again, I know that sounds strange, but it's Japan so is fine) roughly a block and a half away. If you go a second or subsequent time you can just go straight to the place and not deal with the pick-up. The guys are only vaguely like what they appear in the photos, by which I mean the photos were not merely smoothed but there was some very creative lighting and - frankly- amazing work by a skilled photographer. No complaints at all by me, just for your awareness. The interior of the shop is the cleanest of them all. 
- DG: This one doesn't have en suite showers so you are taken to the room, the guy comes in, you get undressed, then he looks out the door to make sure the hallway is clear and you go to the shower at the end of the hall. Then back again after. Only went here once. The guy was exactly how he appeared in the photo absent minor blemishes (i.e. acne). This is also a studio apparently; if you Google the Kanji character name of a guy there's a chance you might find a movie he's been in. They have a small, but multi-story, building and it appears - though I'm not entirely sure - that the guys are actually working in their call center handling customer service questions (for their video websites) when they're not with a client. At least, when I went there, I entered the wrong floor and walked into what looked like a call center, thought I was in the wrong place, but one of the guys immediately jumped up and politely took me to a room on the next floor up, got me settled, asked who I was there to see, and then went and brought him in. 
- TK: I went there twice and saw two different guys. In both cases, the guys were actually better-looking in person than their photos on the website, by quite a bit. Almost as if they did the opposite as what Independence did and ugo-ed them up. This is probably the most run-down -- in terms of facility -- of the three but not awful or anything. 
All three had condoms on-site, though they were One Size Fits Small, so you might prefer to bring your own. It seems clear that bare is not an option.