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Know this will be one you all love to hate, but I still remember this one from the first show show in a gogobar I attended, in Phuket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYSAcS34nVY (Can anybody tell me how to place it here as a video, rather than just a link?)

You were a cutie back in the day ryanasia (despite what seems like a huge cold sore on your lower lip....I am sure it wasnt though)

Speaking as one individual, I must say that I really enjoyed visiting the beaches and temples of Thailand, and they are part of the reason I have come several times. When choosing a holiday destination I aim to have both gay fun and see the World's best sights - hence going to places like Berlin, Barcelona and Thailand where it is possible to have both. Another important aspect from a "conventional" tourist point of view is the handiness of Bangkok as a hub for for a western Europeans heading East - I have use Bangkok as a hub on trips to Laos, Cambodia, Bali, etc, as much because it was the cheapest and handiest as because it enabled me to have a few nights of fun in BKK on the way.

I must say that I appreciate that the pics dont seem to be too touched up, four pics from different angles, seem to give a good impression of what the guy is like.

By host bar I mean a bar where there are guys in street clothes to keep you company, join you for drinks, etc. and who are usually offable. As opposed to a gogo bar where there are guys in skimpy clothing and dancing on stage, and who are always offable The Jomtien Complex has several gay host bars.

There are two Bamboo bars in Pattaya, the straight one is on Pattaya Second Road (almost at the junction with Walking St), the gay one is on Thappraya Road in Jomtien (almost on the junction with Jomtien Beach Road). Very different places, don't get them mixed up! Surprised the gay Bamboo Bar doesnt get more mentions on the gay boards, the Bamboo bar is the the only male "host bar" in the Pattaya area open before 5 pm, AFAIK. Handy if you are on Dongtan beach and bored by 3-4 pm. I met a guy there once who I went on to have a relationship with for 18 months, so I have a bit of a soft spot for the place.....

If you are not too squeamish, this gives you a handle with a bit more blood'n'gore. Game of Thrones: The Honest Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LHmkVqYgKo

Has anybody ever hired any of the NSA5 boys? The website is a bit hard to figure out, the seems to be providing straight guys for photo shoots, but they have a complicated systems of symbols that make it pretty clear that more is on offer ... Have a look at the website - plenty of eye candy at least. http://www.nsa5.com/index.html They also have a Youtube channel - very coy https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu9_HdAnnzPv87D7At6sPWg

I want to add my thanks to you Vessey, well written report and, unlike some others commenting on the thread, I really enjoyed the photographs specifically I like trip reports with a few photographs of the protagonists (not necessarily revealing ones) just so I can visualise who is being talked about. I sometimes have looked at straight boards (like the P-Addicts Board of which you are also a member) and felt a bit envious as there has in the past been much more TR's with photos on those boards. But between yourself and recently firecat there has been quite a few TR's recently where we got a glimpse of the hunks in question. I have looked at the Queen Vic as a place to stay before, and have been tempted by the jacuzzi suite, but the fact that it was obviously a straight place (and the Soi 6 location), put me off, as I was worried that I might be the subject of unwelcome stares from inside or outside the establishment as i came back to it of an evening with my guy for the night. However, your report has reassured me a bit. I might add it to my list for my next trip. Have you ever been in the jacuzzi room of the Queen Vic, Vessey? What didi you think of it? Plenty of room for a well-upholstered farang and a sturdy Thai hunk together?

Thanks for the update TMax. The showering in undies strikes me a rather Thai thing to do.

I would second Vinapu. Try not to worry about it.

Thanks for a great trip report Vinapu

Vinapu, are you sure you didn't mean "Waternest Spa" in Soi 39, rather than the "Waterworks spa"? According to Google, there is no such place as the "Waterworks spa" in that Soi, but there is a place called "Waternest" with several cute masseurs!

According to reports I have read, Blue House massage (in the Soi Day/Night area of Pattaya, behind TukCom) offer something called "foam massage" which i presume is the same as a soapie?

Bob, your point about the 51% victory is a valid one - I think it would be destabilising, and a far from ideal situation, but my point is denying the victors in a democratic referendum their choice would be even more destabilising. Perhaps if they had some rule that a major constitutional change would have to be approved by a majority in two referendums at least three years apart? I know that sounds a bit ridiculous, but the negotiations for Scottish independence are going to take years anyway – Alex Salmond has set a date of March 2016 for independence, but it probably won’t happen on schedule. Also, it is worth pointing out that the English and rUK people have had a say in the referendum (by proxy at least). David Cameron as AGREED to the referendum, on behalf of the British parliament and government. They couldn’t have held it without his agreement as PM of the UK. Also, the SNP won a majority of the seats in a Scottish general election in 2011, with an explicit manifesto promise of seeking independence. So that is two constitutional hurdles the independence vote crossed before the referendum date was set.

Let me reverse the question for you Bob. Do you think it is wise to deny people a change the have voted on and supported by a majority vote? Why should the current constitutional arrangements get precedence just because it is the status quo?

HI Aussiebi14. Have sent you a PM

Funny story...it seems that the Celtic fringes of Europe unified in being sort of the polar opposite of Bangkok when it comes to gay ladyboy-style "glamour."

Sending out for fish and chips ...thats posh. I don't what to take the thread too off course, but that reminds me of when The George, the main gay pub in Dublin, had some similar type of license 20 years ago (they only used to have to do it week-days I think). What they did was they just cooked up a great big vat of spaghetti at about 11.30, and threw some bolognese sauce out of a packet on it (the end result was like something out of a Heinz spaghetti tin) Then a few of the staff went around dishing out the plates willy-nilly on tables, sometimes to the puzzlement of the less frequent patrons.Usually a table with say, four people would be given two plates and two forks, which lead to loads of "You might as well eat it"..."No YOU eat it, i would myself only I just ate, but it is a pity to waste it"... type of conversations. Most people were pretty indifferent to it, but what i always noticed that there were a gaggle of Trannies that used to frequent a table in an upstairs corner of a Thurday night, and they seemed to love it. There was one older one (who used to to come in a twinset and peals - looked like a cross of David Walliams in his "I'm a Ladeee" get-up, and Mrs. Thatcher), who would go over to the waiters (well, barmen really) and imperiously insist that their table get a plateful for every person sitting there. Which they got - obviously trying to the regulars happy. A friend of mine used to claim that they were so enthusiastic about it because somebody had told them that the barmen used to wank into the bolognese sauce before it was served up. Which wasnt exactly what you wanted to think about as you watched Mrs Doubtfire at the next table trying to suck in a long strand of spaghetti....

Series 2 of this has started on British Sky tv. The programme on Thursday evening was all about David, the Bangkok ladyboy lover. I must say I find David a completely unsympathetic character, although nothing he does is exactly "wrong" as such. It is just the supercilious way he does it. It will probably up on Youtube soon enough

Street view is now available in Google maps for Pattaya. Very clear pictures - it includes all of Boyztown, blinking in the morning sun. Seems a bit strange to see it in daylight!

I got an email recently to inform me that Albury Massage is moving to a new address. From the first of June it will be in Sukhumvit Soi 26. The BTS stop will now be Phrom Phrong, however looking at the map, it will be closer to the Rama IV end of Soi 26 than the Sukhumvit end, so it might be as handy to approach from that direction. Full address is: 66/2 Sukhumvit Soi 26.

Hmm...photo A and H are definitely North America...the buildings have that "look". Photo C looks like Everest. Photo G looks like South America (it reminds me of pics I have seen of the Patagonian Andes)

Moses, do you know if the spa intends to put up pictures of the massuers? Because that is the main thing that would influence me in deciding whether to go or not. Also, would they consider a listing at thaimassageboy.com? Seems to be popular.

If you want genuine reviews, look at Booking.com After you stay at a hotel you booked with them, you get an email prompting you to put in a review. In fact I think this is the only way you can review on Booking.com. So I think their reviews are quite honest. They all seem to be people who actually stayed there. Also, they prompt you to post something good and bad about your stay, so this means that most of the reviews contain a bit of both. Sometimes the one bad thing somebody says about a hotel they generally praise can be informative. The fact that they also have a lot of reviews is good too,- for example they have over 200 reviews at present for the Tawana Bangkok hotel on Silom. So all the nutty reviews get drowned out by the sane majority. It also tells you what type of traveller they were. - "young couple" or " family" or "solo traveller" etc. That can help you read between the lines. The nationality of reviewers can also help you guage their review. I often stay in London, and I have learned that one can safely ignore criticism by Americans that the room is too small or the bathroom is too small as too Americans, the rooms of EVERY budget hotel in london seems to small.