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There is a simple answer to that, he will be gone. No vote needed. But, the issue is not those people that come on the site to make a mess, those are easy for us to deal with and we do. This process lined out in great detail is when we as admins do not think someone's actions are egregious enough to warrant a swift kick out of the door. In all honestly, I have seen very few posters over the years that warrant this. But, when they appear, they are shown the door by TY or myself rather quickly. This process is not for those we know should be banned, it is for those we have been asked to ban by members and often over issues that we feel do not rise to the level of banning or suspending. As I have been told in just the last 2 weeks by 3 different posters I respect that I need to ban someone, I turn to TY and just shake my head and I told him that I am at a loss as to what to do. In my opinion, if 2 members ask for a ban and 8 other members agree that someone should be banned and there are no votes to keep them, then I have really not paid attention and thus, it is best for you kind folks to teach me and mentor me and help me. We are a community and some times we look to you for guidance. We do not wish to upset anyone or for anyone to feel we are not listening to them. It is for these reasons we want to be totally fair and above board for everyone and make sure that everyone has an opportunity to help mold the board to their liking.

No worries. It has been on the homepage for months. I think you just overlooked it. I have not been mugged but I did use to go to discos and get offered drugs all the time and MANY of the boys do Yabba. A very sad drug that destroys people. IMHO.

You got me hooked on this author back last year and I keep up with him. He is very good and he has posted some great info on Brazil and the things most never see in Brazil. For anyone who has never been to Brazil and likes going off the beaten path, please go over all read all of this NYT's author's writings. It is fascinating and will give you tons of great times.

Huntsville, Alabama and the Tennessee River? Oh my Lucky, you know me too well. I just didn't want to bore you with my catfish tales or frog gigging stories. http://gaybangkok.boytoy.com/

We have banned very few people on this site. However, we do get demands from time to time by individuals to do just that. Individuals who feel they have been abused or otherwise sufficiently aggrieved, to warrant banning a member. We as admins have to take the broad view of what is good for the community as a whole regarding contributors and personalities. We believe a broad community is the most interesting to more people. That requires tolerating different personalities. Where to draw lines about what cannot be tolerated is a sometimes a simple question and sometimes more subtle. We draw bright lines in the Site Policy regarding personal information, stalking, and agenda prosecution. The fainter lines are more difficult to draw. Where does a thin skin or abrasive personality stop and abuse start? Where does a sometimes abrasive personality cross a line into chronic abuse, even more, abuse that warrants the death penalty? What is the overall balance of an individual's contributions versus occasional irritations generated. How easy is it to ignore a curmudgeon by walking the other side of the street or turning on the ignore button? We as admins do not like being asked to impose a penalty on a member due to one individual's estimate of perceived infractions of etiquette and decorum, especially when there are remedies that help people avoid who they do not like. On the other hand, these individuals feel we are not listening them and their concerns and they grow frustrated. It is often the same people who request this but they have stated that others feel the same and that they fear that if they speak up, nothing will be done as the admins 'protect their favorite posters'. As mentioned earlier, we, the Admins, feel that who is allowed to be a member and who is not, and what behavior is just too abrasive/abusive to tolerate, affect the entire community. Therefore it ought to be left to the 'participating community' to determine. For myself, I can't find one person that is a regular poster that I would ban. However, after getting emails and PM's from long time posters questioning my ability to determine if a poster should be disciplined, I think that TY and I as admins need to step aside and let those who feel we need a new direction, make one. And, we as Admins will abide by the decision. It is for the above circumstances and reasons that we have decided to establish a procedure whereby members can bring forth a complaint about abusive behavior by individuals in the community and whether it rises to the level that should be banned from temporary or permanent participation. This will provide mechanism for aggrieved members to make a complaint about abusive behavior with the disposition ranging from no action warranted to permanent ban, depending on history. The Process will be called a Hearing of the Comity Commission (CC). Members of the Commission shall be forum members who meet the criteria set out below. This gives the community a say over who deserves suspension or banning. Any member who wishes another member to be suspended from posting can accomplish this IF a sufficient number of other members of our community agree. The Penalties: A first finding of 'Engaging in Conduct Abusive or Other Intolerable Behavior' will result in suspension of forum participation for a period of 90 days. A second finding of 'Engaging in Conduct Abusive or Otherwise Intolerable Behavior' will result in forum membership privileges revoked permanently. Members of the Comity Committee: All legitimately registered members of the forum who meet ALL the following participation conditions are defacto members of the Comity Committee with voting rights: 1. active forum participants for the prior 6 months, 2. with a minimum 200 posts total on the site, and 3. with a minimum of 15 posts in the prior 6 months. Participation of Commission Members is voluntary. One may choose to vote or not. Establishing a Complaint Who May Make a Complaint? A complaint of abusive behavior can be lodged by any legitimately registered Forum Member against another Forum Member. Any member lodging a complaint is limited to one accepted complaint against the same Accused every six months. The Admin can lodge a complaint without time limits. Moving the Complaint to the Hearing Stage At least two members must make a complaint against the same individual to initiate a Hearing. These 2 members may contact the Admin via PM. If only one member complains then the Complaint Process is terminated. If two complain, then Admin shall post a Complaint Announcement Thread, announcing that a complaint has been made against a Forum Member, name given, for Abusive or Otherwise Intolerable Behavior. The complainant's screen names shall be published so that the Accused shall know his Accusers. This gives the Accused an opportunity to contact his Accusers in order to work out their differences. An Admin initiated complaint automatically moves to the Hearing stage with the posting of a Hearing Thread. The Admin shall notify the Accused of the Complaint. Establishing the Hearing Thread The Hearing Process is initiated with publication of Complaint. The accused offender and the two (or more) complainants will be identified. Each complainant, identified by his screen name, shall offer his complaint against the alleged offender. It can be long or short but must be substantiated with evidence of offense, eg. citations, references and/or examples of abusive behavior. (Presumably the stronger the case, the more likely the outcome.) Failure by either complainant to provide any substantive case will result in dismissal of the complaint and termination of the process. Withdrawal of the Complaint by either or both of the Complainants shall cause the Hearing Process to be terminated without any action against the Accused. (At least two Accusers must participate in order to avoid actions driven by 'personality conflicts'.) The Accused Forum Member shall be strongly encouraged to state his defense or apology/mea culpa in response to the Accusers. Each Accuser shall be entitled to one rebuttal to the Accused's defense. The Accuser shall be entitled to make a response to each Complainant's rebuttal. That closes the arguments in the Hearing Proceedings. (Other discussion open to any forum member can be held in external threads subject to standard Site Policies and community civility standards.) The Duration of the Hearing Process The Hearing Process starts with the Publication of the Complaint Thread. The two (or more)complainants must lay out their initial case with 24 hours of the Complaint Thread opening or it will be terminated and closed if less than two comply. The Accused will be notified and encouraged to make a timely response. At this point it is the responsibility of the parties to remain engaged for the submission of rebuttals and responses. The Hearing Proceedings shall be held open for one week only. During that interval any and all defacto Comity Committee Members are encouraged to get and remain engaged and, after arguments have been presented, cast an up or down vote to affirm or deny the charge of 'Engaging Abuse or Other Intolerable Behavior'. The vote results are public and voting is public. Voter screen name shall be associated with the vote. The Findings The Finding for Suspension shall require a vote in the affirmative by at least 50% + 1 voting with a minimum of nine votes in the affirmative. Consequently, a minimum of 19 members must participate with at least 9 voting in the affirmative. The Finding for Banishment shall require a vote in the affirmative of two-thirds of all voting with a minimum of twelve for Banishment. Admins cannot vote.

I'll be in India for the entire month of November and part of December with my programming team. It is very tiresome work and I can't post as much this month. I apologize and if you see less of me, please understand. I have been working on quite a few new projects and need to be in speaking distance of my team here to get the work done faster. I don't have much to report other than it was a famous Indian holiday last weekend called Diwali. It is their festival of lights and the city was alive with color. Here is one sand sculpture they made for us at the hotel and another one with flowers that my team made in my honor for our lunch that day.

As always fabulous report. I LOVED the 3 way photo. LOL Slut! Sorry, it has taken a while to see this as I am in India and working 10 hours a day in the daytime and come back to hotel and crash after dinner. You have now given me reason to drink coffee during dinner so I can see what is happening with your sexcapades. I love them. Thank you for sharing. Now, onto something even more important (LOL) for me. Did anyone ask you where your fat friend was that tipped too much? I don't care what they say, as long as they remember me.

Finally, willie and I agree on something! This thread has been fabulous. Full of great information about one man's visit to LOS but filled also with eye candy and great discussions on other issues. Simply great IMHO. Fantastic job Firecat and everyone else who post and contributed this this thread.

Thanks Surfcrest. I know this was happening and back when it first happened, there was a process to get it removed from those listings. This site was the same. We went through that process and filled out paperwork ect. and were removed. Since then, that list and even their website has disappeared. But, some sites didn't do the paperwork and thus they weren't removed. EVEN though that entire process is now removed. Yes, TIT. However, I think you are doing the right thing in moving the server and I do believe that will help in Thailand. As I said, I am in India and I can see it just find with no problems now. So, that is great. You are proactive and moving in the right direction. Good luck with your new site and with getting all these blocks removed once and for all.

Sorry, but I disagree. I could not access at all for 4 months in Bangkok. I asked and was told it was blocked by the provider. I had the provider in my room and that is what they said. That does not mean much. A provider would not have issue with the software of their site. It just would not happen. I have said all along that the site was blocked at one point from the ministry. True got that directive. They never were told to put it back on and thus they did not. IMHO, that is what happened. But, I don't know for sure but IMHO that is the only thing that makes sense.

It is the first timer I have been able to read it in months and not blocked. So, that is a good thing. But, I am not in LOS right now and spending time in India for the month. I am glad they worked out the kinds and moved things around to get off the blocked list. Are those that were having issues with it in Thailand still having those issues or is that totally resolved. I was surprised to see that Spike and Jinks are now running it again. Spike and Surf have always seem easy to work with other boards and I hope that all the boards can now work in s spirit of cooperation. Congrats to them on getting the board back up and running.

I went to their site today but got a photo of a girl. Anyone know what is happening? Did they take it offline?

Nab Club Pattaya, NAB, is a gay nightclub with some Hot Coyote Dancers. They also have a Live Show every night.When NAB first opened its doors, their aim was to provide a comfortable place to drink and be with friends. Upstairs you will find a VIP area You either have to know someone or pay a lot extra to enter this area. Of course if you get known as a Big Spender, many doors may open. Nab attracts a big Bangkok crowd on weekends. This is a late night Club so if you arrive before midnight, you will be very lonely. Please tell us about your experience and do not forget to post some photos. Information: Address: 225 / 58-89 Moo 9 Pattaya Dragon, off Second Road, not far from Alcazar Phone: (0) 8135 - 36907 Opening hour: 10:00 pm - 4:00 am Photo Of NAM Men Club

Pattaya Marine Disco has been on Walking Street for many years, It is a not a gay bar but you can still have a lot of fun especially if you bring a date from Boystown. The club offers you a great sound system and a fun atmosphere. You will have fun looking at the many decorations put up over the last 30 years. Marine Disco is in the middle of Pattaya Walking Street, and it is not difficult to find with its unique style. If you are coming from the Beach it will be on your right hand side. Please tell us about your experience and do not forget to post some photos. Information Address: Walking Street, Pattaya Photo Of Marin Disco

I agree. They are going to be hard to beat.

I had a friend live there and loved it. I visited many times and always enjoyed it. I had fond memories of the place.

Since getting to India, I did speak with the manager of the hotel and about 20 others and all said the exact same thing about Air India. They all said it sucked and that the company does not care. They also said to realize that their customer service reps get paid a few hundred per month and it is a time job and they too do not care as they go in for money only. Also, each person I have spoken to said the cash thing is often a problem as many Indian companies can't get CC and the percentages are high and they don't like using cc. I did get a receipt from Air India and I have sent a message to them but no response. And, I don't expect anything to be done. Most likely I'll just book Thai Air on my return and cancel my last 2 legs on Air India.

A place to dance, drink and have fun. It is decorated in a European style. It is a big place so bring all your friends and make some new ones while you party! Idol has quickly established itself as one of the most popular late-night gay discos in Pattaya. It has coyote dancers and shows start at 10:30 PM. They are always having special events. This is a place to be seen and to look for that special someone. Please tell us about your experience and do not forget to post some photos. Information Address: Soi 4, Second Road, 20260 Pattaya, chong Buri Thaialnd Phone: 0811-777-807 or 087-133-7795 Opening Hour: 11:00 pm - 6:00 am Website: www.idolclub-pattaya.com Photo Of Idol Club Youtube:

The Dave Man Club Pattaya enjoys nurturing a unique meeting point for Pattaya visitors and residents to have fun. A fun Disco with all that you would expect and yes don't arrive too early or you might be very lonely. Please tell us about your experience and do not forget to post some photos. Information Address: 356/4 M.10, Pattaya, Thailand 20150 Phone: Mr.chain. 0836937763 Opening Hour: Mon – Sun 10pm to 6am Website: http://www.thedaveclub.com/portal.php Picture of The Dave Man Club

I hope your day is fabulous and full of all the beautiful cocks you share with us all the time! Have a great day!

Whose your Daddy Adam Smith? My favorite past time was riding my motorcycle in the cotton fields as a kid. My first motorcycle came when I was in First Grade and I LOVED riding day and night. I also grew up riding horses and love that time as well. But, riding through a cotton field while the crop dusters were spraying their pesticides and trying to outrun them was a great deal of fun.

I have always hoped to find me a few "Golden Girls" and live out my retirement. I am serious in this. They were very committed to each other.I do believe that a strong commitment is needed for good friendships. They take work and although not as much work as a life partner, they are not only beneficial but very needed for a healthy life. IMHO I have not one met a person that was happy in life that didn't have good friends.

MsGuy, I would be pissed at your statement above had I not actually done a belly flop in mud MANY times before. I am fucking amazing at it! Growing up in the South, I had to find ways to entertain myself that didn't involve frog gigging or tipping the cows. Mus Flops were much more fun.

In my opinion, commitment can take various forms and mean such different things to different people. I have had the same Thai boyfriend for almost 10 years and I am committed to him. I am committed financially. I am committed to his future. I am committed to helping him succeed in life. I am committed to helping him better himself. I am committed to spending as much time with him as I can when I am in Thailand But, I am not committed to being his only sexual partner. It is not something I want or need. It is not something he wants or needs. And, while some people view commitment as only a remain faithful to your spouse concept, I view it as something totally different. I was just in Thailand for 4 months. Daily, he was committed to helping me with work to ease the load. Daily he was committed to making me happy and me making him happy. Daily we were committed to getting each other off. But, I am now gone and I want him to enjoy life and love and sex and while he will be with someone else and I will be with someone or ones else, we are still committed to each other. What is your definition of commitment?