After initiating 9 threads and pouring questions ad nauseam, it’s time to start giving back. Below is a concentration and summary of what I’ve gleaned from blog, forums, posts and PMs. Hope this might be useful for pre-BKK newbies like me. This isn’t a definitive tutorial, but rather what I understand to be useful info for me.

Quotation marks aren’t associated with contributors. Sorry about that; the idea of publishing my tutorial came to me too late for researching footnotes. Kudos go to: vinapu, drimvoiz, ggobbk, macaroni, divinemadman, spoon, patanawet, jasper, gerefen, boy69, z909, zoomy02, and others unmentioned. I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENT GENEROUSITY, AND FOR MAKING MY UPCOMING VISIT THAT MUCH BETTER.   (-:    

 

“Before you go exploring gogo/off bars, why not go for an early drink and maybe meal in Silom Soi 4 – the gay soi – to soak up some of the atmosphere and meet someone to ask their experiences. Balcony Pub opens at 5.30 pm (but is quiet till about 8 then very busy by 10 for their free show at 10:45 with Coyote boys and cabaret). Connection, Welcome and Telephone Pub – all on the same soi – have similar opening times and prices.”

Bar explainer on ShamelessMack’s blog: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/bar-glossary/

Bar rates: entry/drink – 350; tip boy for short sit-down – 150; tip for mamasans – 100 (only if they helped and weren’t pesty); off – 500 (maybe less); tip for ST (Short Term 45-90 minutes) – 1500-2000 (more toward 2000).

Jupiter and Moonlight consider themselves and/or really are “classy” (e.g. boy “models” and their shows may be “the best”) and are more expensive: entry for Jupiter is 500; drink in Moonlight is 450. Maybe so is Tawan because of the “muscle hunks” there, but “many of the hotter guys that worked there have apparently moved on to Jupiter and Moonlight”.

The main batch of regular (i.e. not "classy") bars close together is (in apparent order of popularity): Lucky Boys, Screw Boys (“badgering mamasans”), Fresh Boys, Dream Boys, and maybe Banana Boys (“very crowded benches”). Southward are Tawan, Nature Boy, Golden Cock, Hotmale (apparently already “tired”). “In Lucky, Screw and Banana boys are more engaging. In Dream, Jupiter  and Moonlight guys are less engaging but hotter.”

Apparently “Tawan , Screw, Golden Cock and Nature are more adventurous (allowing wild patron-boy action while seating); Dream, Moonlight, Hotmale, Jupiter – not so”

Mamasans can be helpful in finding the right boy for you, but they might also have ulterior motives including tips for themselves. Don’t let them badger you into sitting with them. Mamasans recommended for reliablility: Neung at Jupiter and Emmy at Moonlight.

“For offing a guy, Monday night is the night you'll have the least amount of competition. Weekend nights bars are crowded.” 

“Babylon. 5-9 PM on Saturdays and Sundays are the best time to be there.” 

 

Edited November 9, 20196 yr by 12is12
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15 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Jupiter and Moonlight consider themselves and/or really are “classy” (e.g. boy “models” and their shows may be “the best”) and are more expensive: entry for Jupiter is 500; drink in Moonlight is 450.  

 

Jupiter entrance fee is 400.

 

4 hours ago, 12is12 said:

MAKING MY UPCOMING VISIT THAT MUCH BETTER. 

You don't even have an idea yet how fantastic that trip will be.

 

Thank you for putting it all together , bodes well for your future trip report we are waiting for patiently 

Great summaries - remember once in Bangkok to concentrate on having a good/great/fantastic time,

great guide for those new to bkk nightlife

20 hours ago, 12is12 said:

 

The main batch of regular (i.e. not "classy") bars close together is (in apparent order of popularity): Lucky Boys, Screw Boys (“badgering mamasans”), Fresh Boys, Dream Boys, and maybe Banana Boys (“very crowded benches”). Southward are Tawan, Nature Boy, Golden Cock, Hotmale (apparently already “tired”). “In Lucky, Screw and Banana boys are more engaging. In Dream, Jupiter  and Moonlight guys are less engaging but hotter.”

Apparently “Tawan , Screw, Golden Cock and Nature are more adventurous (allowing wild patron-boy action while seating); Dream, Moonlight, Hotmale, Jupiter – not so”

Me personally I've never had any hassle from the Mama's in Screw-boys, if anything they go out of their way to make sure I'm happy, if I need them...they're around but other than that I just sort myself out or one of my regular Viets will give me a few tips on who they think i'll like (although that's generally one of their newly arrived friends that they're trying to 'pimp me out' to...lol)

I would also add a note of caution that please don't expect that every guy you come across will want to engage in 'wild patron-boy' action inside the bar, they're often within eye shot of their friends and don't want to loose face in front of them.  They're all different and from different back-grounds and some would much prefer to engage in action with you in the privacy of your nice condo / hotel room rather than a gogo bar.

1 hour ago, alex303 said:

don't expect that every guy you come across will want to engage in 'wild patron-boy' action inside the bar.......

wise words

I'd advice to employ  general rule to engage in graphic interaction in the bar only if a guy actually initiates it by lowering his briefs for example or placing one's hand THERE.