August 16, 201610 yr Active Members 9 hours ago, tassojunior said: That didn't last long. Simon9 is back in the saddle on Romeo today (although still off Rentmen, like Velvety). In the meantime marciano tells me Marty is taking dates for velvety, felix, himself and a few others and just sending out whatever guy is available at the time if they're busy. All the guys seem to be very busy right now and half of them are on vacations with clients (Pavel is in Majorca, velvety just back from Monte Carlo and simon just back from Tunisia). The life of an international callboy ! Also, does anyone know Sebsweat from Rentmen? Not usually into brunettes but he is way too good to be true and his "str8" act will last about a week. Tasso, I guess Sebsweat is real: http://www.williamhiggins.com/set-list/set-detail/16081501
August 18, 201610 yr Active Members he will soon appear at Staxus too as Luke Volta does he have profile on planetromeo?
August 18, 201610 yr Active Members Does anyone know who this Prague model is? I think it's a bel ami guy but not sure. He's visiting in NYC for 3 months from Prague and wants to visit DC. Gian Filipi is one name he uses. He travels a lot around Europe constantly and is a very good photographer. His recent photos all seem to look similar to the age/looks in these (the one in NY was taken today).
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 9 hours ago, marko73 said: he will soon appear at Staxus too as Luke Volta does he have profile on planetromeo? I haven't seen this stunning boy on Romeo, marko, only on Rentmen. He is mouth-watering....Maybe I'll take one for the team. Oh, the sacrifices one has to make for you guys!
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members Oooops, I just checked his rate: 250 euros. That is outrageous for Prague I still get beautiful boys for half that amount, believe me! Sorry, I pass.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 2 hours ago, numerito said: Oooops, I just checked his rate: 250 euros. That is outrageous for Prague I still get beautiful boys for half that amount, believe me! Sorry, I pass. List price doesn't mean much with 90% of these guys. My guess is that if he's in town E 250 would convert to 3000 Korunas. They only get 10000 for doing a porn film.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 1 hour ago, tassojunior said: List price doesn't mean much with 90% of these guys. My guess is that if he's in town E 250 would convert to 3000 Korunas. They only get 10000 for doing a porn film. I don't know how much work and time is demanded of a guy by a porn studio. I'm not arguing with you but if they get what you state, that's about €800. So what rate would you regard as the appropriate pay by an individual? Let's assume it's a handsome fit-bodied (aka Belami type) young man being hired to escort an older man for the evening, say 3 hours in total.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 30 minutes ago, msclelovr said: I don't know how much work and time is demanded of a guy by a porn studio. I'm not arguing with you but if they get what you state, that's about €800. So what rate would you regard as the appropriate pay by an individual? Let's assume it's a handsome fit-bodied (aka Belami type) young man being hired to escort an older man for the evening, say 3 hours in total. 10000K is about $400. And that's often for a whole day's fucking and filming. Escorts who can advertise as "porn stars" can get many more clients though and higher rates outside Prague. 2500 was the normal date rate last year; numerito says it's 3000K now. A few won't go below 4000 or 5000. But that's for 1 hour. The better ones have, if nothing else snug, tight schedules.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members Like tasso says, the normal hourly rate for a Prague boy (including real Bel Ami kids) is 2500 to 3000 Czech crowns (Kč), that is $100 to $125. There are also multiple hour discounts. I don't know about overnights, because I hardly ever do more than 2 hours. As for porn rates, they have told me that William Higgins pays 5000 Kč a scene (a little over $200), whereas they get four times that amount from Bel Ami, 20 000 Kč. Shooting a scene can take several hours. They can certainly make more money escorting, especially if they are not lucky enough to work exclusively for Bel Ami.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 1 hour ago, tassojunior said: List price doesn't mean much with 90% of these guys. My guess is that if he's in town E 250 would convert to 3000 Korunas. They only get 10000 for doing a porn film. Thanks for the quick response. I was working off your conversion of €250=3000 koruna earlier. Now checking online I see 10,000 koruna is the equivalent of €370 or US$420. May I ask you a further question: I understand that an attractive but normal guy asks 3000 koruna, and a particularly handsome guy may ask 5000 koruna, an hour but is it your experience that they will discount the rate for an extended hiring of say 2-3 hours?
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 1 hour ago, tassojunior said: List price doesn't mean much with 90% of these guys. My guess is that if he's in town E 250 would convert to 3000 Korunas. They only get 10000 for doing a porn film. You are probably right, that has been the pattern I have observed here. I might then try my luck with Sebsweat, this beautiful boy.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 2 minutes ago, msclelovr said: Thanks for the quick response. I was working off your conversion of €250=3000 koruna earlier. Now checking online I see 10,000 koruna is the equivalent of €370 or US$420. May I ask you a further question: I understand that an attractive but normal guy asks 3000 koruna, and a particularly handsome guy may ask 5000 koruna, an hour but is it your experience that they will discount the rate for an extended hiring of say 2-3 hours? My "conversion" rate was a joke; ie: guys ask 250 Euros but when the requested rate is in Czech Crowns it's 2500 or 3000. I don't know of any whose rate is over 5000 K. numerito first pointed this out to me. It's your business if you want to be "on the clock" for dinner or drinks. Same with sleeping overnight. Instead I usually offer a second hour date after a meal or drinks or if they want to sleep over (few do--they live with girlfriends, hence high overnight rates). If you can have sex for 3 hours or all night you should be escorting yourself.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members 1 minute ago, tassojunior said: If you can have sex for 3 hours or all night you should be escorting yourself. Haha. No, like you, I enjoy having a "second hour date" after dinner and drinks. I'm happy to pick up the restaurant bill but I don't expect to the guy to charge for his time eating. Nor sleeping for that matter: I prefer to sleep alone, unless the guy asks to stay over as he lives far from the city centre. From what you say, it seems I would not be unreasonable in offering 2x the hourly rate for an evening that includes dinner.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members The second hour rate varies, msclelover. Most of "my" guys charge 3000 Kč for the first hour (some of them 2500). One if them does NOT charge me extra for a second hour (with sex, not a "platonic" second hour, mind you), some have quoted 2000 for it, and some 1500. Not a consistent pattern, although my impression is that they lean towards 2000, which seems fair enough to me. I agree with you on overnights. I have heard they run in the 8000-10000 Kč range, and it does seem ridiculous to pay for the "privilege" of watching them eat or sleep. I used to do them quite a bit some years ago, with at least 3 sexual moments, but not anymore. I think that you get more for your bucks in a 2 hour appointment (4500-5000) and you can always negotiate a discounted fee for a third hour if you so please.
August 19, 201610 yr Active Members Also, maybe because Prague is a smaller city and the hotels have seen the guys 100 times with different clients, a higher % than normal seem to be adverse to going to dinner with a client. Also the body-builder ones are on peculiar diets. Maybe just my luck of the draw, but I've found Prague hard to take guys to dinner, even if they are free between close-in dates with them. More often I get texts later in the night when they've been partying and out of cash and want to know if I want a repeat. What I do not like is when I'm say number 2 and then later number 5 on their date list. I have standards.
August 21, 201610 yr Active Members On 8/18/2016 at 11:25 PM, tassojunior said: Does anyone know who this Prague model is? I think it's a bel ami guy but not sure. He's visiting in NYC for 3 months from Prague and wants to visit DC. Gian Filipi is one name he uses. He travels a lot around Europe constantly and is a very good photographer. His recent photos all seem to look similar to the age/looks in these (the one in NY was taken today). This may be Cameron Buirski from Bel Ami and/or Czech hunter 113. Where are his other photos? Is he into escorting? (This is my first message at this very interesting board
August 21, 201610 yr Active Members 10 hours ago, ifheallows said: This may be Cameron Buirski from Bel Ami and/or Czech hunter 113. Where are his other photos? Is he into escorting? (This is my first message at this very interesting board No. This guy's a blond. His real (?) name is Milan Peterek and seems to do a lot of photographs and travel constantly around very nice places. He's just settling in visiting NYC and I haven't approached him about a DC visit yet. His Facebook friends are largely Prague porn models and escorts. I may have to go to one of them to find out what he is.
August 21, 201610 yr Active Members 1 hour ago, tassojunior said: No. This guy's a blond. His real (?) name is Milan Peterek and seems to do a lot of photographs and travel constantly around very nice places. He's just settling in visiting NYC and I haven't approached him about a DC visit yet. His Facebook friends are largely Prague porn models and escorts. I may have to go to one of them to find out what he is. Cameron Buirski had a photoset with not so dark hair... But of course it would be more intriguing if there are two or three guys of such looks rather than one.
August 21, 201610 yr Active Members another pic of the mystery Prague guy in porn/escort. No head shown. He travels very expensive places and doesn't want his face public...hmmmm...worried about computer facial recognition? and a mystery Prague bel ami friend of his I think there's a level of escorts above Planet Romeo and RentMen. Maybe kept by famous people. i feel like a stalker but his guy somehow ended up a friend on Facebook and then I noticed half his friends were bel ami actors and that other than the one very young face shot, he never shows his face.
August 22, 201610 yr Active Members Your mystery headless guy may be interesting but I much prefer his bare-chested blond friend. Any idea who he is? And I feel you're correct in thinking that 13 hours ago, tassojunior said: there's a level of escorts above Planet Romeo and RentMen. Maybe kept by famous people. After all, one of the BelAmi guys from a few years ago used his bedroom skills well and has now become the 'boytoy' of Valentino's business partner
August 22, 201610 yr Active Members I agree with msclelovr, the shirtless blond boy is definitely more interesting. Any info, tasso? Thank you. And, yes, tasso must certainly be right about the "high end" escorts, but where can we mere mortals find them? Where, oh where?
August 22, 201610 yr Active Members I'm wondering if velvety20 has now moved into that high end realm. He deleted his Romeo profile and doesn't respond on any of the messaging apps he contacts me on. Last time he contacted me (last week) he was in Monte Carlo. Of course Marty runs his Romeo so..... Pavel also deleted his Romeo because of Marty and all the pics he sends now are from yachts in Majorca.
August 23, 201610 yr Active Members 6 hours ago, JackR said: The blonde is a model, Marcel Glaser So the headless Czech is most likely a fashion model himself or a photographer.
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