I think I'm doing something wrong. Are apps not a good use of time here?

[frazzle]

I've had really bad luck using the apps here, probably even less than in the states. Definitely less than in Latin America. The few MBs I come across are pretty standoffish, difficult to schedule with, etc. In general it seems like there are not many MBs. I've noticed the same thing on HeeSay. I'm into twinks so maybe that's the problem.

I'm a ~30 year old white guy in good shape. Possibly my pics are a lot worse than I think lol. Is all of the action in person here? Any tips or recommendations?

[vinapu]

If you are in Thailand, don't waste your energy on comparisons to States , Latin America or wherever.

Keep combing apps and hunt until you struck the gold. Tons of twinks remain available in massage places along Silom and Suriwong and , after dark also on bars in the area.

Yes , look critically at your pics and wording in your profile ( u you may add " MB welcomed, I have place" ) but I doubt it's reason for your , so far , poor luck

[FunFifties]

Are you in Silom? I find the ratio of money boys on Grindr quite high in that area when I visit.

[floridarob]

I've noticed that same thing..... 

I wonder if the "New" generation is just not into hookups, paid or otherwise as in the past?

In Mexico I notice that the younger generation doesn't drink or only 1 or 2 drinks.... IN MEXICO!!!


Less social and more attached to their phones, no social skills.... ??

This article came to mind:

https://www.derekthompson.org/p/the-death-of-partying-in-the-usaand

[PeterRS]

7 hours ago, floridarob said:

https://www.derekthompson.org/p/the-death-of-partying-in-the-usaand

Interesting article. And rather shocking that Americans spend more time alone today than at any time in recorded history. I suspect that also appies to more than a few other countries. Another factor is that American men spend 7 hours in front of their televisions for every one they hang out with friends. As it states, "The rise of individualism and solitude since 1970 has been all-encompassing." The author places blame on social media - but only to a certain extent. His conclusion, though, is damning. "To be a citizen of the Internet is to spend hundreds of hours inside the minds of virtual people we couldn’t party with, even if we desperately wanted to."

When I was at university in the UK many decades ago and for the few years I worked there before moving to Asia, there always seemed to be parties in someone's home every week-end. Usually very simple ones - bring your own bottle etc. - but it was the regular means of socialising. And of meeting fellow gays for hook-ups or even just friendships. Without social media and even phone calls being expensive, home parties were the ideal way to meet others. Partying in a restaurant was extremely rare as dining out took up a considerably greater percentage of income.

But Asia is not like the west. I quickly found that while people did give parties they were almost exclusively in restaurants - rarely expensive ones. Socialising was done over mah jong before dinner, lots of food and drink, chat and laughter, and then - finish. As soon as dinner was over, that was the cue for everyone to depart. A large part of the reason is that in Hong Kong - and no doubt many Asian homes - accommodation is mostly a small fraction of the size of that in the west. Being invited to homes for dinners or parties was almost exclusively for the richer members of society. I had two gay friends in Hong Kong who were, let's say, not short of a dollar or two. One was a really good cook and so they regularly invited friends for wonderful dinners and parties always with interesting fellow guests, many from the gay community. They were, though, an exception.

I find the same here in Bangkok. Thais - or at least those that I know - rarely entertain at home.

[frazzle]

I talked to two such guys and got the lowdown, so sharing for anyone interested. 

They say that they have so many guys messaging them, some of them wealthy younger guys from the Middle East that the money is expected, and not really a bonus. One guy I did meet up with told me his normal clients were similar to a good looking, 26 year old closeted guy from Saudi Arabia he met recently. The guy didn't even want sex and paid him through the nose. For younger guys at least, it seems like supply and demand are so out of whack in Bangkok that it's more akin to normal dating, not prostitution. 

I should have realized that when I had guys hitting me up to pay for sex (which rarely happens anywhere else). I also see very average looking guys advertising themselves as MBs... for sure a seller's market here. I'll check out the bars and clubs this weekend.