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[Moses]

Few in the West are familiar with the three similar-sounding geographical names mentioned in the Russian textbook on modern history: Khatyn, Katyn, and Volyn (Volhynia).

These places witnessed essentially identical criminal events of state-level significance, albeit in different years.

 

Khatyn is a village in Belarus that was completely burned down by the Nazis in 1943 for supporting partisans – the German Nazis herded all the inhabitants into their houses and burned all the houses along with the people inside. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatyn_massacre

 

 

Katyn is a village near Smolensk, where the Smolensk regional NKVD (Soviet secret police) department executed political prisoners during the Stalinist regime. The lower photo (in prev. post) shows three paths, with the Russian flag on the left and the Polish flag on the right – the left path leads to mass graves of Soviet citizens, the right to mass graves of Polish citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

Russia, as the successor state to the USSR, has acknowledged both the fact of repression against its own citizens and the fact of the Katyn massacre. The parliament adopted a resolution designating the Katyn events concerning Polish citizens as a crime (a resolution on actions against its own citizens was adopted during the Soviet era). A memorial was built in the Katyn forest at the site of all the mass graves (see post above).

 

 

Volyn (Volhynia).

However, the victims of the Volhynia massacre are still waiting for justice. Between 50,000 and 60,000 ethnic Poles were killed by Ukrainian nationalists from the UPA (led by Shukhevych) and OUN (led by Bandera) in Western Ukraine in the spring of 1943.  In total, up to 100,000 people perished in the massacre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Shukhevich:

 

Poland has repeatedly raised the "Volhynia question." The current President of Poland mentions the Volhynia massacre in almost every speech. But there is a problem: the current, post-coup (2014) Nazi regime of Ukraine has declared Shukhevych and Bandera national heroes of Ukraine. Therefore, the people who led UPA and OUN are not only not accused of criminal behavior, but central avenues in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, are named after them.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7766

[Moses]

Do you know how looks memorial about Volyn massacre created in Poland?

 

I will zoom to the main detail, for your understanding what Poles think about Volyn. Even in metal this detail is quite disturbing. 

 

 

[vinapu]

16 hours ago, Moses said:

 

But why you don't mention here "Volyn by Ukrainian Nazi"? 

 

my comment was to your correct  assertion that ' history is written by the victors".

I don't think they were any victors in Volyn massacres as soon after Red Army entered in , Ukrainian nationalists were dangling from any tree available, guilty or not. There was no space for nationalists in Soviet sphere.

Monument in Katyn looks impressive and dignified, Hope there's another one for Soviet victims of NKVD murdered  there which were more numerous.

now, what about page 162 and  war time rapes in East Prussia ?

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, Moses said:

But there is a problem: the current, post-coup (2014) Nazi regime of Ukraine has declared Shukhevych and Bandera national heroes of Ukraine. Therefore, the people who led UPA and OUN are not only not accused of criminal behavior, but central avenues in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, are named after them.
 

 

so Russia invaded Ukraine having noble goal of changing names of those avenues to more palatable while her own butchers are resting in peace on Red Square behind ( and inside)  of Lenin Mausoleum ? 

[PeterRS]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

so Russia invaded Ukraine having noble goal of changing names of those avenues to more palatable while her own butchers are resting in peace on Red Square behind ( and inside)  of Lenin Mausoleum ? 

And the one who to many appeared not to be a butcher, Nikita Khrushchev who denounced Stalin, was denied burial in the Kremlin Wall and instead lies in peace inside Moscow's Novodevichy Cemetery. (Of course during the Stalin era he had followed the Kremlin's orders). And that's perhaps appropriate because there he is in the presence of truly great Russians like Chekov, Gogol, Shostakovich, Chaliapin, Prokofiev, Rostropovich and his wife Vishnevskaya, Ulanova and so many others, including Stalin's wife who shot herself in 1932 aged 31.

Graves of Khrushchev (above) and Stalin's wife (below)

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, PeterRS said:

And the one who to many appeared not to be a butcher

 

O Santa Simplictatis !

[PeterRS]

12 minutes ago, vinapu said:

O Santa Simplictatis !

You "appear" to confuse "appeared to be" with "was"!

[Moses]

On 12/8/2025 at 2:17 PM, PeterRS said:

Bullshit!

You are classical brainwashed lemming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_uprising

[Moses]

On 12/7/2025 at 10:40 PM, vinapu said:

no , it was act of hastening end of war by nation who got attacked first 

Ok. So for "hastening end of war" "by nation who got attacked first" using nuclear bomb on civilians is acceptable?

[PeterRS]

1 hour ago, Moses said:

You are classical brainwashed lemming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_uprising

You cannot even read! Whenever did I bring up the Jeju uprising? I didn't! Fact! Or does Jeju in Russian sound like Katyn or Mickey Mouse Chernobyl?

You yet again deviate because you don't - and won't - answer legitimate questions. But then we know this is your usual practice. No one pays any attention!

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, Moses said:

Ok. So for "hastening end of war" "by nation who got attacked first" using nuclear bomb on civilians is acceptable?

no, war is not acceptable and those who started  it should pay the price.

It's day dreaming that in war only military personnel is involved.  It is not and never was.

What our glorious ancients staring with Alexander the Great did when that conquered  city - they cut as many heads as possible to chase away any thought of resistance.

I get your point about civilians but do you really think Red Army conquering Berlin  or any other army conquering any other place was preoccupied with saving civilian lives.? Only in 5th grade lectures I suspect. 

[Moses]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

I get your point about civilians but do you really think Red Army conquering Berlin

There were no nuclear bombs dropping, you know?

[Moses]

10 hours ago, PeterRS said:

answer legitimate questions

Dear, if you will behave civilized, then I maybe will answer, but while you are talking about me instead of subject, the best you will have from me - "brainwashed lemming" comments...

[PeterRS]

6 hours ago, Moses said:

Dear, if you will behave civilized, then I maybe will answer, but while you are talking about me instead of subject, the best you will have from me - "brainwashed lemming" comments...

You again cannot and do not want to read. My initial posts were requests for your answers. But you never answer. End of discussion. And I am not your "dear"! End this ridiculous diatribe!

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, Moses said:

There were no nuclear bombs dropping, you know?

only because USSR did not have one yet and that shortage cost lives on hundreds thousands of Soviet soldiers before Berlin fall  

[PeterRS]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

only because USSR did not have one yet and that shortage cost lives on hundreds thousands of Soviet soldiers before Berlin fall  

Yet ironically as the war was about to start, the Germans were ahead in the race to build the "bomb". In 1939 a host of German scientists and physicists like Otto Hahn, Fritz Strassmann, Otto Frisch and others had cracked the code for nuclear fission. These ideas were pubished by Niels Bohr and the American John Wheeler two days prior to the outbreak of war and became the classical anaysis of the fission process.  The German nuclear programme was presided over by Werner Heisenberg. Although it was wound down for reasons of cost, this German Uranverein project became the primary incentive for the USA and Britain to pursue the goal of a nuclear bomb. It was also their reason for mounting the raids on the German-occupied Norwegian heavy water plants.

Soviet scientists quickly discovered what Germany, Britain and the USA were up to. It took time but by 1942 they had convinced Stalin to start up a nuclear resarch programme. Although too late to affect the outcome of WWII, following the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki much greater effort was put in by the Soviets. The city of Chelyabinsk-40 was constructed to house the new plutonium reactors - later renamed Cheyabinsk-65, the first of ten highly secret Soviet cities to house its nuclear programme. Had the Soviet scientists been quicker off the mark, who knows which country would have been the first to use the bomb and how WWII might have ended?

[Moses]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

only because USSR did not have one yet and that shortage cost lives on hundreds thousands of Soviet soldiers before Berlin fall  

History has no subjunctive mood.

By the way, your definition that justifies the crime would perfectly fit Israel: if they were to drop a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip now, they could justify it with "to end it quickly" and "we were attacked"...

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, Moses said:

History has no subjunctive mood.

By the way, your definition that justifies the crime would perfectly fit Israel: if they were to drop a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip now, they could justify it with "to end it quickly" and "we were attacked"...

very wrong , even if catchy example. You are not talking about two sovereign countries , one of which attacked other like Japan USA or Russia Ukraine. It's  occupier and population subjugated and virtually imprisoned, thus entitled to resistance by whatever means they found in their disposal. 

not to mention technicalities  - Gaza is to close to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem for reasonable nuclear bomb usage unless Israel would wish to make antisemites happy.