19 hours ago, Suckrates said:

I dont see how Fetterman fighting AGAINST Dems is helpful ?

It's not. We agree.

19 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Sure, his ass holds a Dem seat,

That's my point.

And speaking of Dems, how's it goin with Zohran, Sis?

You haven't discussed your selfless public service for a while. And I know it's not like you to get worn out. 😀

5 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

and I don't think he'll run again. He seems to have alienated almost everyone in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party.

That's my hope!

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

It's not. We agree.

That's my point.

And speaking of Dems, how's it goin with Zohran, Sis?

You haven't discussed your selfless public service for a while. And I know it's not like you to get worn out. 😀

He's a very busy and successful guy, and I am keeping my distance, trying NOT to distract HIM from his civil service duties....

Your sis got SKILLS he finds hard to resist, and now is not the time for him to be distracted. Those MAGAtars are on his ass every minute, and they dont need to find him with his dick in my mouth ! 🤗

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

It's not. We agree.

That's my point.

And speaking of Dems, how's it goin with Zohran, Sis?

You haven't discussed your selfless public service for a while. And I know it's not like you to get worn out. 😀

The Fett is a ticking time bomb, and I wonder if his dirty, fat ass holding a seat is right for the party, eventhough its right for the numbers ?

He's unpredictable and verbally abusive to his party, especially when he gets the spotlight on right wing news platforms..... where he shouldnt be if its only to Trash Dems......

While at first I defended his sartorial individuality , but eventually came to see it as disrespect for the job and the American citizens who expect and DESERVE more from their elected officials, than to treat the job as a "throwaway".....

What SHOULD BE thrown away is HIM ! He's a dangerous, destructive, filthy SLOB.

On 9/8/2026 at 2:21 PM, stevenkesslar said:

That's my hope!

We've got him for two more years. Not much to do about him that wouldn't be more mess than it's worth.

On 9/8/2026 at 5:15 PM, Suckrates said:

The Fett is a ticking time bomb, and I wonder if his dirty, fat ass holding a seat is right for the party, eventhough its right for the numbers ?

That is the issue again. The numbers.

His stunt at Trumpalooza didn't help. It's as if he is bending over backwards to alienate Democrats. 😡

His swooning with Republicans doesn't make that much sense to me, if the idea is politics. I don't think Republican voters would rally to him in 2026 if he flipped sides. Particularly because on most issues he votes like a solid Democrat would. Again, GovTrack says he is more liberal than Rafael Warnock or Jon Ossoff or Gary Peters - three of the least liberal US Senators.

My theory is this isn't about politics, or money. He's just saying, basically, "Fuck you. This is who I am, and what I believe. I'm right." Most politicians would argue that's not really good politics - at least most of the time. And knowing nothing about pre-2020 Fetterman, it's hard to know how much his depression and health issues are the cause of it.

Mostly, I just hope he goes away.

Part of why I feel conflicted is that he was the ONLY Democrat to flip a Senate seat from red to blue in 2022. So there is this aspect that no good deed goes unpunished. Do we want a Democratic majority, or not?

Part of why I feel conflicted is that some part of me loves the fact that Fetterman wants to give Republicans and McCormick the respect they deserve. If I go back decades, especially to when I was most active with US Senators on Capitol Hill, that is how things tended to work. At least moreso than today. And I do miss it. That was definitely the Senate of Joe Biden.

That said, if what I am saying is correct, he is kind of an anachronism. As was Biden. As am I, I guess. 🫢 It is definitely the age of silos and bitter partisanship. And while Trump is more symptom than cause, I blame it on Trump. His schtick is to barely win by dividing and conquering. It worked twice for Trump. But it's not good for America. Or even his party in the long run, I think. Check back with me in 2028.

In my mind, I compare him to my disdain for Manchin. While Manchin argued that his centrism was sincere, it always seem to help line his pockets. And the pockets of family and cronies. Which is clearly what Trump cares about. With Fetterman it's not the money, as far as I can tell. It's his principles. Or his stubborn and piggish behavior, if you prefer. He is not a subtle man.

I think he is a depressed man who was probably never that good at politics. And whose illness is just making him worse.

Go away, Fetterman! Just go away

On 9/8/2026 at 5:15 PM, Suckrates said:

The Fett is a ticking time bomb, and I wonder if his dirty, fat ass holding a seat is right for the party, eventhough its right for the numbers ?

What SHOULD BE thrown away is HIM ! He's a dangerous, destructive, filthy SLOB.

This was really good reporting. Mostly based on former Fett staff, who agree with you, Sis.

I don't disagree with you characterizing him as a "ticking time bomb." If we go with that, we don't want the time bomb to go off right after Democrats have 51 seats. And Fetterman switching parties hands Senate control back to Republicans.

I'd use the term "loose cannon." To me, this actually explains why politicians like Chuck Schumer are useful. El Sayed can afford to call Fetterman an asshole, I guess. But I really don't see how that helps El Sayed win, or govern. I like the idea of someone like Schumer stroking Fetterman's back enough to keep the loose cannon from capsizing the whole ship. The Trump Party would love nothing more than to have Fetterman be THEIR loose cannon for the next two years.

I hope the media just pound the shit out of the guy, like Breaking Points does. He is a useless piece of shit. He sucks. He's a slob. His brain is destroyed. He has become a cruel asshole. He sucks at constituents services. He is not up to the job.

He can hate the media all he wants. But I would do a Schumer and leak the shit to the media. Which, for all we know, Schumer is. Fetterman will not survive a Democratic primary. That's pretty clear.

I also think Krystal Ball is right. It's the stroke, stupid! Arguably, it's not even Fetterman's fault. Arguably, he should resign for health reasons. But if I were Chuck Schumer, and if I were to win 4 Senate seats, I would be focused 1000 % on making sure John Fetterman is NOT the loose cannon who sinks my Democratic Senate majority.

1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

This was really good reporting. Mostly based on former Fett staff, who agree with you, Sis.

I don't disagree with you characterizing him as a "ticking time bomb." If we go with that, we don't want the time bomb to go off right after Democrats have 51 seats. And Fetterman switching parties hands Senate control back to Republicans.

I'd use the term "loose cannon." To me, this actually explains why politicians like Chuck Schumer are useful. El Sayed can afford to call Fetterman an asshole, I guess. But I really don't see how that helps El Sayed win, or govern. I like the idea of someone like Schumer stroking Fetterman's back enough to keep the loose cannon from capsizing the whole ship. The Trump Party would love nothing more than to have Fetterman be THEIR loose cannon for the next two years.

I hope the media just pound the shit out of the guy, like Breaking Points does. He is a useless piece of shit. He sucks. He's a slob. His brain is destroyed. He has become a cruel asshole. He sucks at constituents services. He is not up to the job.

He can hate the media all he wants. But I would do a Schumer and leak the shit to the media. Which, for all we know, Schumer is. Fetterman will not survive a Democratic primary. That's pretty clear.

I also think Krystal Ball is right. It's the stroke, stupid! Arguably, it's not even Fetterman's fault. Arguably, he should resign for health reasons. But if I were Chuck Schumer, and if I were to win 4 Senate seats, I would be focused 1000 % on making sure John Fetterman is NOT the loose cannon who sinks my Democratic Senate majority.

With all due respect to your opinion Sis, which I always respect, no amount of Schumer stroking will STOP The Fett from doing what The Fett will do..... I believe he's now on a mission, with an agenda, but his 15 minutes is long overdue..... As you consistently point out, the Dems are "tolerating" him because he's a NUMBER in their column...... But The Fett will surely find some way to Sabotage the party.... whether before or AFTER the Mids.... Take it to Kalshi.....

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

I like the idea of someone like Schumer stroking Fetterman's back enough to keep the loose cannon from capsizing the whole ship.

I'm unsure which is more off-putting. Schumer stroking, or Fetterman's back. Yuck.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

But The Fett will surely find some way to Sabotage the party.

So we will see whether Krystal Ball has a crystal ball.

To repeat, I agree with her analysis. It's the stroke, stupid.

If true, it's ironic. In 2022 Democrats wanted Fetterman despite what was a pretty obvious health problem. Much like Republicans want AWOL Mitch right now. Fast forward and now we don't want him. And, if Ball is right, it's because of his health problems. Time will tell.

5 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

So we will see whether Krystal Ball has a crystal ball.

To repeat, I agree with her analysis. It's the stroke, stupid.

If true, it's ironic. In 2022 Democrats wanted Fetterman despite what was a pretty obvious health problem. Much like Republicans want AWOL Mitch right now. Fast forward and now we don't want him. And, if Ball is right, it's because of his health problems. Time will tell.

The last time I looked, it WAS possible to have health problems and still be a loyal, rational Team player..... I'm just sayin ! Too many excuses are being made for his behavior which is simply pure egregious.... and I believe, CALCULATED..... He's a scumbag with an agenda, trying to seize "his moment". Health problems ? Take a fucking Pill !

IF he looked like Hassan Piker, I might give him a PASS, but he's a disgusting, fat slob, so "no soup for him"....... 😏

On 8/11/2026 at 1:39 AM, stevenkesslar said:

What if Pete and Chasten run together?   At least that way we can find out which one is which.

Pete actually looks well fucked, doesn't he?

.

not as cute as this couple:

11 hours ago, Suckrates said:

The last time I looked, it WAS possible to have health problems and still be a loyal, rational Team player..... I'm just sayin ! Too many excuses are being made for his behavior which is simply pure egregious.... and I believe, CALCULATED..... He's a scumbag with an agenda, trying to seize "his moment". Health problems ? Take a fucking Pill !

IF he looked like Hassan Piker, I might give him a PASS, but he's a disgusting, fat slob, so "no soup for him"....... 😏

I've never bothered to find out too much about Hassan Piker, I assumed he was just one of those lazy ass targets that the MAGA elite use to rile up their sheeple. I looked him up, he is kind of cute.

1 hour ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

I've never bothered to find out too much about Hassan Piker, I assumed he was just one of those lazy ass targets that the MAGA elite use to rile up their sheeple. I looked him up, he is kind of cute.

11 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

The Great Incompetent probably despises him more for the way he looks than for whatever public policies issues he discusses. The Great Incompetent is that small and petty.

Back to the topic - after that "brief" eye candy diversion.

I know that Democrats don't want to mention the "B" word - Biden. Under Biden's four year presidency average monthly job growth was 409,000 jobs. Under The Great Incompetent the total job growth between January, 2025 to January, 2026 was 359,000 jobs. In a full year this incompetent White House regime has seen less job growth in a full year, than Biden managed averaged every single month.

If you want jobs in the economy don't vote Republican, it never goes well.

Obama handed The Great Incompetent a growing economy which TGI fucked up with his complete failure to manage through the pandemic. Biden handed TGI a booming economy which The Great Incompetent fucked up with his tariffs and the policy of lots and lots of foreign wars and high diesel price policy.

On 9/11/2026 at 11:35 PM, stevenkesslar said:

So we will see whether Krystal Ball has a crystal ball.

To repeat, I agree with her analysis. It's the stroke, stupid.

If true, it's ironic. In 2022 Democrats wanted Fetterman despite what was a pretty obvious health problem. Much like Republicans want AWOL Mitch right now. Fast forward and now we don't want him. And, if Ball is right, it's because of his health problems. Time will tell.

El Sayed in Michigan seems to be leaning into his BDE. His name for the Vice-President is Low T JD, and his Republican opponent he's referring to as a Beta Male. El Sayed can probably pull it off, but its a politics that is unappealing to me.

9 minutes ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

El Sayed in Michigan seems to be leaning into his BDE. His name for the Vice-President is Low T JD, and his Republican opponent he's referring to as a Beta Male. El Sayed can probably pull it off, but its a politics that is unappealing to me.

Ok, so what do you propose as an alternative ? Since Trump and the Trumpian party have decided it's WIN my ANY method !

The Trump era is NOT for people who have decided to stick to their ethics or morality. I believe we MUST be open to a "fight fire with bigger fire" mentality. Sometimes, in severe crisis, your options become limited. The midterms is our tipping point, and our Democracy is in severe crisis.

On 8/11/2026 at 1:39 AM, stevenkesslar said:

What if Pete and Chasten run together?   At least that way we can find out which one is which.

Pete actually looks well fucked, doesn't he?

Pete Buttigieg is every Republican's dream candidate.
How about an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028? Or cackles/Buttigieg?
I'm already salivating

49 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

Pete Buttigieg is every Republican's dream candidate.
How about an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028? Or cackles/Buttigieg?
I'm already salivating

ME TOO !

Montana is a big miss this year. The Democrat and the Independent candidate couldn't agree on a single candidate (as was figured out in Nebraska) this election. Between them they are splitting the vote and allowing an underwhelming GOP candidate to walk to victory. Between the Democrat and the Independent candidate - from the polling averages - they would be in the lead by a small but significant margin. If the Democrats have 51 seat this term of the Senate, and have to be reliant on the waffles of Fetterman's vote I'll be pissed at Montana Democrats and progressives.

On 10/4/2026 at 6:11 AM, Suckrates said:

ME TOO !

I don't know why I'm surprised by our resident cult member's homophobia. It is rampant in the GOP but still on a gay forum it is embarrassing.

On 8/5/2026 at 9:05 AM, stevenkesslar said:

That may be good news for Democrats.  I don't know how well turnout in college towns actually went.  But the NYT graphic makes clear that El-Sayed did best in counties with college towns. If he can get them out in droves in November, without alienating more moderate voters, that may be the ticket to victory.

Dr. El-Sayed is debating Mike Rogers right now. It's intense.
I'm watching on Keith Edwards YouTube channel. Perhaps it's available elsewhere. Anyway, Rogers seems pretty lame, while El-Sayed is on his game. He's great.