We have upgraded the forum to the newest version of Invision Power Board. With this new update, we have enabled the "like" system for users who see a post and they like that post, they are able to click "like" just like on other Social Media sites.

 

I hope that you enjoy the new features that come with the board. We tried to keep everything the same as before and make the transition smooth.

 

We are also meeting with a graphic designer in a week to come up with a better homepage. A member suggested that the look of the homepage is not conducive to getting member participation on the boards and the site. We listen to our members and we will improve the homepage very soon.

 

We are also working on some ideas that would help us to keep our City Guides more up to date and current. We realize that this in important to the site and any suggestions members may have would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you!

Thank you for this update.

 

Is your private mail here working? I tried to contact you regarding a problem and when I sent the message I got an error stating the following:

 

 

The following errors were found

 

The member Scooby cannot receive any new messages

This personal message has not been sent

The same thing happened to me as well when I tried. I just tested again and it worked.

Thanks, Michael. I tried again too-- but still didn't work.

It doesn't work for me either.

Is this where I start saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" again . . . ?

Is this where I start saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" again . . . ?

 

LOL, is there where I say you don't know what you are talking about again? You have said this for years. You obviously don't get it so I'm going to add it to your I Don't Get It List.

 

For my I don't get it list, I'm going to start by saying I don't get how anyone who runs a board does not understand the need to update its software when new updates come out. Most of the time this is for security and vulnerabilities fixes. As I have spelled out the need for this to you on multiple occasions, I'll pass on attempting once again. But, it is important to have updates to the software and the issue with Scooby not getting PM's is not new with this update. It is a setting in the Admin that he has to fix. He is trying to fix this. It is not because of the update.

There was a setting in the admin that limited me to getting more than 100 messages. I have now changed this to unlimited and can now receive messages. It was not due to the upgrade. It is now fixed and thaiworthy, you can now send me a message.

You have said this for years.

 

And as long as my board continues to run trouble free I see no reason to install these "upgrades." You keep saying it takes care of security issues. I'm not having any security issues. I've asked precisely what security issues these upgrades are supposed to fix and I've also asked whether this board was experiencing security issues in the first place. I have yet to see an answer posted. So, tell me - precisely what security and vulnerability issues have been fixed and tell me whether this board has been having problems with any of these issues.

 

With all the upgrades that have been added to this board software, every one of them are supposed to have fixed security issues. And yet every few months they come out with another upgrade that's supposed to fix security issues. There must be a hell of a lot of security issues that need fixing.

 

The only differences I've seen with this board software when upgrades are installed are no differences at all or problems. I've been on this board ever since the day you opened it and if anything about it has changed as a result of these upgrades, other than squeezing in the board from both sides, I've missed it. "Keep Me Logged In" doesn't work anymore, at least for me. It used to, but then came an upgrade. That's when it stopped working and still won't work.

 

That's my next question. Other than fixing security issues that weren't causing problems to this board to begin with, what has improved from the board member end?

 

As far as I can tell, "upgrade" is the wrong word.

 

So, you're right. I don't get it and until someone gives me a good reason to upgrade a board that's already running perfectly, with no security issues, vulnerability issues, or any other serious problems, I intend to continue to not get it.

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Actually, I just found one "improvement." Now the editor doesn't work. I made a small edit to the message above and clicked "save changes." Guess what - it didn't save the changes and just sat there. To add this part to my post I had to switch to the "Use Full Editor" and click "Submit Modified Post" to do it. You want to tell me again all about how these "upgrades" improve the board?

 

So, I repeat: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

My heart's with GB but my head's with Michael.

 

In addition, and speaking as a total non-geek, is it possible that GT and GBT are quite different?

 

GT seems to me to be quite 'complicated',. perhaps bespoke, whereas in comparison GBT appears to me as off-the-peg, or ready to wear in tailoring parlance.

 

Where GBT scores is the total lack of advertising.

 

But, compared to GT's 1,500 metre runner, GBT is a heptathlete.

 

In very simplistic terms, GBT is BBC to GT's ITV

In very simplistic terms, GBT is BBC to GT's ITV

 

Yes, it is simple. Michael and Snoopy are intelligent, non-controlling, and not afraid of change. GayButton is the exact opposite.

Yes, it is simple. Michael and Snoopy are intelligent, non-controlling, and not afraid of change. GayButton is the exact opposite.

 

The first 2 sentences are appreciated. Thank you kind sir. The last one borders on a personal attack. We know how intelligent and articulate GayButton is or he would not have a site filled with great information. Please be careful not to start something and leave all baggage at the door.

But, compared to GT's 1,500 metre runner, GBT is a heptathlete.

 

That''ll teach me. I did of course intend to say:

 

Compared to GBT's 1,500 metre runner, GT is a heptathlete.

 

i.e. Gaybuttonthai consists of the Message Board and its several Forums. Gay Thailand is many other things in addition (although to be fair I don't use the other functions of the site, so effectively GBT and GT are on a par as far as my particular usage of them goes).

So, you're right. I don't get it and until someone gives me a good reason to upgrade a board that's already running perfectly, with no security issues, vulnerability issues, or any other serious problems, I intend to continue to not get it.

 

You use phpbb right? Here is their latest update info:

 

"We are pleased to announce the release of phpBB "Bertie's long summer vacation" 3.0.11. This version is a maintenance release fixing a number of bugs and not adding any new features. We've improved compatability with PHP 5.4 further and added a warning about the minimum PHP version required to upgrade to phpBB 3.1 to warn users of old PHP installations.

 

We urge you to update your installation as soon as possible. Our support team will only support phpBB 3.0.11, updates to phpBB 3.0.11 and conversions to phpBB 3.0.11. Submissions to our trackers for older versions will not be accepted, please make sure you update before you submit a bug report."

 

So, I wonder if reading this you can find one or two good reasons to upgrade the version? If you can't, there is NO HOPE FOR YOU in this discussion.

there is NO HOPE FOR YOU in this discussion.

 

None at all. I received that information too. I see nothing there that would be a reason to do a so-called upgrade. If I was having problems with my board, I'd upgrade, but I'm not having any problems and I've seen the kinds of problems "upgrades" can cause. Why on earth you're so insistent in defending a software company that can't get it right goes beyond me. Do you think I'm attacking this board? If that's what you think, you're wrong. I'm attacking the software company, not the content of this board.

 

I'm going to repeat what I've asked several times before, including on this topic, and still have no answer: "So, tell me - precisely what security and vulnerability issues have been fixed and tell me whether this board has been having problems with any of these issues."

Do you think I'm attacking this board? If that's what you think, you're wrong. I'm attacking the software company, not the content of this board.

 

I have never thought you were attacking this board. I think you are waging an assault on intelligence! I beg you, please come with me to the 21th Century.

I'm going to repeat what I've asked several times before, including on this topic, and still have no answer: "So, tell me - precisely what security and vulnerability issues have been fixed and tell me whether this board has been having problems with any of these issues."

 

You don't answer my question so I won't answer yours. However, I did show you text from YOUR board software company that says they will no longer support older versions. As the owner of a board, do you really not see the value in this support? If something goes wrong with the site or the board, would you prefer to have one of the Barny Army go into the code for tech support or a professional who designed your board. No, No, I don't want an answer as I know your answer. I just think it is ass backwards.

You don't answer my question so I won't answer yours.

 

Before you say I don't answer your question, don't you think it would be a good idea to at least ask one? What question is that? Yes, I use phpbb. Yes, if something goes wrong with my board I will install a new version of it. No, I see no value in support of something that needs no support. Microsoft has stopped supporting Windows XP. Meanwhile my Windows XP works perfectly while I see constant complaints and problems with newer versions of Windows. I'm not planning to "upgrade" that either.

 

If you want to evade my questions by coming up with excuses not to provide answers, that's your choice. However, I believe the real reason you won't answer is because you have no answers. I think this board does not and has not had security problems. I think you are as aware as I am that some of these upgrades have caused more problems than they have solved.

 

I'm in the 21st century, have no fear. I'm in it without my head buried in the sand about trying to say you need to fix problems that don't need fixing and were never problems in the first place.

 

If you want to continue installing these upgrades, be my guest. Meanwhile, the software problems I see as a board member still exist and so far the upgrades have caused them, not fixed them. Instead of trying to go after me, what you ought to be doing is going after the software company that sold you a board with flaws and does nothing to repair them and apparently consistently insists they are fixing security problems. Why are they having so many security problems? Why can't they fix simple problems such as screen size and keeping people logged in? Let me know their answer once you contact them about it.

 

Your serve . . .

Actually, I just found one "improvement." Now the editor doesn't work. I made a small edit to the message above and clicked "save changes." Guess what - it didn't save the changes and just sat there. To add this part to my post I had to switch to the "Use Full Editor" and click "Submit Modified Post" to do it. You want to tell me again all about how these "upgrades" improve the board?

 

Yes I noticed that too but in fairness I am pretty sure (sorry, can't be 100% sure) it was happening exactly as GB describes before Scooby started this thread telling us about the update/upgrade whatever.

 

It seems to work ok with some browsers but not others. Last time I checked it was ok with I.E. but not Firefox. I'm on Firefox now so I'll go back right now and edit this post.

 

Later: Firefox still not working properly. Ditto Chrome, just tried that too. Now trying I.E. Nope, doesn't work either, but ok if I use the 'use full editor' button.

No, I see no value in support of something that needs no support. Microsoft has stopped supporting Windows XP. Meanwhile my Windows XP works perfectly while I see constant complaints and problems with newer versions of Windows. I'm not planning to "upgrade" that either.

 

LOL Now, I see why you have some problems from time to time on websites. You are using an outdated old version of your computer software. This explains it all.

 

For those that don't know this, I consider GB a dear friend and our little "argument" is simply that. I respect him and I love him. And, one day, I will propel him into the 21st Century if it is the last thing I do on earth!

Sorry to butt in again!

 

There is some discussion on the Today's Quiz thread in the Beer Bar about emoticons.

 

Maybe whilst the update is bedding down it would be possible to expand the smiley repetoire?

For those that don't know this, I consider GB a dear friend and our little "argument" is simply that. I respect him and I love him. And, one day, I will propel him into the 21st Century if it is the last thing I do on earth!

 

Oh, right . . . It's because I use Windows XP. It's the fault of Windows XP, not the board software. All I have to do is install an upgrade and I'll be in a perfect world.

 

You still haven't answered my questions.

 

And why did you have to tell everyone that we're friends. You just spoiled all the fun of our "argument."

 

 

"With you in the cooler we will still be friends?"

- Robert Graf (German guard Werner), 'The Great Escape'

It's because I use Windows XP. It's the fault of Windows XP, not the board software.

 

Finally, a statement I can agree with! I am so glad you have finally come to see the light.

Finally, a statement I can agree with! I am so glad you have finally come to see the light.

 

I respect him and I love him.

 

If/when the love attains biblical proportions, please promise us you won't post the video!

 

You two somewhat remind me of Jack Klugman and Tony Randall. GB's still using the telegraph (and/or pony express) and you've got the lastest country-club app installed on your mega-pixil-byte I-Phone VII.....