Members Lucky Posted Saturday at 02:01 PM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:01 PM Donald Trump says that he will be arrested on Tuesday, March 21st for the hush money paid to Stormy Daniels. He is already trying to make a circus out of it. My opinion is that the case isn't worth it. Why give Trump this platform and notoriety when you know that he won't be punished significantly for the crime? Personally, I'd be happy if we never heard from him again. Maybe that's a good plea agreement- charges dropped if you disappear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM 16 minutes ago, Lucky said: Donald Trump says that he will be arrested on Tuesday, March 21st for the hush money paid to Stormy Daniels. He is already trying to make a circus out of it. My opinion is that the case isn't worth it. Why give Trump this platform and notoriety when you know that he won't be punished significantly for the crime? Personally, I'd be happy if we never heard from him again. Maybe that's a good plea agreement- charges dropped if you disappear! The problem here Is that you WILL hear from him again, and again and again, until he accomplishes his goals of making America TRUMP WORLD..... Regardless that the case is SMALL, what he did was illegal and he MUST be shown there are consequences. The only reason he is the destructive force that he is IS because he was allowed to escape any punishment for for his past illegal behaviors. I dont care if he stole a Snickers bar from the bodega, I want to see him PROSECUTED... And any public uprising that may come from it MUST also be dealt with. We cant show these morons that we are afraid of them... Fear is the enemy now. We have to start somewhere, and I truly believe once the first shoe falls from Bragg, ALL the other shoes will follow, and Trump will be Buried in indictments..... Its like putting your little toe in the water first before cannonballing into the pool. fedssocr and Lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedssocr Posted Saturday at 03:45 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:45 PM the weird thing is that it's taken so long for this case to be brought. Michael Cohen already served his sentence for his part in the same crime. This is just the appetizer. The GA cases will be much more substantial. And the classified documents case and the rest of the special counsel investigation could end up being bigger still. He's going to be very busy in court for quite some time Lucky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forky123 Posted Saturday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:35 PM There is no choice at this point. Trump has so much contempt for the US legal system that if the charges aren't followed up on he is going to get worse. TotallyOz and Stormy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EZEtoGRU Posted Saturday at 04:59 PM Members Share Posted Saturday at 04:59 PM 19 minutes ago, forky123 said: There is no choice at this point. Trump has so much contempt for the US legal system that if the charges aren't followed up on he is going to get worse. I agree. He must be charged in all these cases...large and small. I also agree with the other poster expressing dismay that it is taking so much time for all the various charges to be brought against Trump formally. I need to see him in an orange jumpsuit before he dies! TotallyOz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM Members Share Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM Lets start a "drinking game". Everytime Trump is going to say WITCH HUNT in the upcoming months, lets all take a drink... But be aware if your libation is alcoholic, with as many times as he will be saying it, you'll be dead drunk on the floor pretty quickly...... Also, keep in mind, that if you listen closely to Trumps rhetoric lately, he is setting up his base up for COUP 2024, and his plan to STEAL that election is already in motion. And NO DOUBT, DeSantis is just as despicable, but I am not sure he will go to the same lengths that Trump will ? If either gains power, we will be living in RUSSIA.... TotallyOz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted Saturday at 09:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:53 PM Yes, it is important to proceed. Yes, it gives him more of a platform but that is part of it. EZEtoGRU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavica Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM If he's indicted, he's not going to be cuffed and led into court or a police station. He will be informed of the charges and the Secret Service will accompany him as he surrenders, is processed and released until the trial. Tump will make this a media event, though. floridarob and Lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted 23 hours ago Members Share Posted 23 hours ago 13 hours ago, Mavica said: If he's indicted, he's not going to be cuffed and led into court or a police station. He will be informed of the charges and the Secret Service will accompany him as he surrenders, is processed and released until the trial. Tump will make this a media event, though. Of course he will, but thats the best part, when Trump is on the Defense and has a huge platform and spotlight, he rants and rants and rants, and the things he says usually INCRIMINATE him, so let him bury himself. And we should NOT fear his base. Our police force and military is MUCH larger that his radical base and can take that group down in a nanosecond. If those people continue their stupidity and make that choice to rebel, then they should pay any consequences. As I've said, FEAR is our only enemy now and feeding Trump ALL his just desserts will show his minions "WE dont play !" Its a good step to ending all this nonsense we've been buried under since 2015 . It will also be interesting to see and hear how Putin and all the other worlds Dictators handle Trumps indictment. Come on Tucker, bring it on ! CLEANSE OUR COUNTRY, CONVICT TRUMP !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted 21 hours ago Author Members Share Posted 21 hours ago I appreciate the different opinions here. It's clear that I am in the minority. But, practically speaking, no one would expect that Trump would get anything more than a fine if convicted. It is a nonviolent offense and he has no record of convictions. Filing a civil suit over the same allegations would also result in a fine, maybe even greater than in criminal court, so I just don't get adding the excitement of criminal court just to excite his base. I won't cry if he is indicted, just to be clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavica Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 4 hours ago, Suckrates said: And we should NOT fear his base. Our police force and military is MUCH larger that his radical base and can take that group down in a nanosecond. If those people continue their stupidity and make that choice to rebel, then they should pay any consequences. Yes, but we learned from the January 6th insurrection, there are active duty military and police officers who hate the USA so deeply they'd support an autocrat like Trump. The Secret Service has been infiltrated as well. I stopped saying to soldier I met along the way ... "Thank you for your service" until I know more about them and their activities or know them personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted 19 hours ago Members Share Posted 19 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Mavica said: Yes, but we learned from the January 6th insurrection, there are active duty military and police officers who hate the USA so deeply they'd support an autocrat like Trump. The Secret Service has been infiltrated as well. I stopped saying to soldier I met along the way ... "Thank you for your service" until I know more about them and their activities or know them personally. Those people need to be weeded out and exposed.... Surely there are enough underccover Pro-democracy agents that can find and expel those Pro-Trump Maga's? The swamp is everywhere and it must be cleaned if we are to make any progress with a stable democracy.... And all of those like Kevin McCarthy nthat are working to further a Pro-Trump agenda must also be erradicated from public office. They are only serving the Maga's, NOT the majority of America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago If Trump is convicted of felonies my guess is that Joe Biden would likely pardon him. Trump should spend time in jail but I think Biden will weigh the divisions in the country and conclude it’s not in the nations interest for a former President to be jailed. Just my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvnv Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Stormy said: If Trump is convicted of felonies my guess is that Joe Biden would likely pardon him. Trump should spend time in jail but I think Biden will weigh the divisions in the country and conclude it’s not in the nations interest for a former President to be jailed. Just my guess In order for Biden to pardon him, once convicted, Trump would have to ask for a presidential pardon, which stipulates the admission of guilt. Is he capable of it? All his life he’s been claiming infallibility, so we’ll see 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted 9 hours ago Members Share Posted 9 hours ago 4 hours ago, Stormy said: If Trump is convicted of felonies my guess is that Joe Biden would likely pardon him. Trump should spend time in jail but I think Biden will weigh the divisions in the country and conclude it’s not in the nations interest for a former President to be jailed. Just my guess Since Biden is such a Pro-democracy guy, and Trump is in favor of destroying it, I cant reconcile the notion of Biden EVER pardoning Trump for his actions of attempting to end democracy and the rule of law. And Biden needs to be cognizant of his own base and not focused on pleasing Trumps base. Bidens base would never re-elect him if he let Trump off the hook after everything Biden has said about him and him needing accountability. Where is there accountability in a pardon ? That is just ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted 10 minutes ago Author Members Share Posted 10 minutes ago These re not federal charges, so Biden cannot pardon Trump for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
