vinapu

yuck !!! on both counts

I second your opinion but fact that even if dud , hurts pocket less, is actually a big plus for the area and worth travelling those 20 minutes from Silom ghetto

don't worry about how readers look at your reports, very fact that you write them is precious and enriching forum. ................. hopefully your next trip is sooner than later

other than shiny name it doesn't seem to have anything to do with equally glamorous looking massage shop from this thread.

no harm done, lol

that's rather sure thing

but only marginally so. Olddaddy , you will be happy at Classrooms

clearly Mr Kenyon did not visit BoyzBoyzBoyz in last few years. On my last visit about 3 weeks ago bar was packed and grand total of "western and elderly in appearance. " were 4 (four) including distinguished and very handsome elderly westerner, later identified to be vinapu from GayThailand forum accompoanied by even more distinguished and handsome Asian looking gentleman. Both left after short while due to noise , smoke and scene filled with completely dressed 3 dozen guys who could be considered attractive if only they show more skin other than just faces and palms

being numbers man in former professional live helps

don't waste precious vacation time

Congratulations Smiling Jupiter boy and long time on top of it, that's something ! Hope he did not help you to break the bank. Macaroni is spot on , boys at both soi 4 bars have limited opportunity to promote themselves as here's either show and/ or in case of Jupiter , singing with boys hidden in the corner

+1 I stay there in both Jan and May this year an can vouch for them. Good value for money, rooms modern and well appointed , more costly room very spacious. As for Ambiance , they are opened , I saw people emerging from hotel few weeks ago but I don't like their maze of corridors and rarely stay there. I like Classrooms , rooms big end very discreet entry although Pattaya is not really for shy people

how fast people forgot months of closures during covid time and resulting loss of income, sigh. I many countries majority of tourists are locals , not foreigners

Or you can use that time to get that silicone injection you were asking about

when driving next time , drink the milk , not whisky

or do what I once did , rent speed boat for round trip and tell him to go to other side right away. Make sure you grab one or more boys with you, fee is for boat , not passenger. Boat will wait for your party till you decide to return Before covid it was 2 500 , now I don't know.

I like animals too. Preferably well roasted, not cats though

and they seem to charge for it

I'm under impression you overdid your gin tonight

Welcome back to Thailand section ! Hilton by Central Festival mall is walkable to/from Boyztown or short hop by baht bus. have fun and let us know how it went

-1 I rarely go for short course since I noticed boys tend to rush things out and it often is done and over with in much less then 1 hour. Some may even assume afters is all I came there for 1.5 Hr. send signal to take it slow among other things 1 hr session is usable if I'm not sure of boy but don't want to leave empty handed so to speak. If things go well , usually it can get extended although I recall case in one of Sahpan Kwai shops where it was declined because room was scheduled to be taken for other performers.

+1 keep voyeurs at bay

no, keep me out of that. I ask boy if he kisses AFTER we already agreed on terms on an off and compensation. I don't want him to be influenced by desire to get a deal and lie to me or execute fake kiss. If he says 'no ', it is fine with me , then I know not to force kiss upon him when we close the door. In the room , yes , I like tease them jokingly and taste the waters suggesting if they break no kissing rule they may earn red note. Some go for it, some not. Hardest case was of certain non scene boy who rejected 500 baht extra. Next trip when I meet him he planted quite a KISS on me saying that's my New Year gift for you. That's was something !. on dismissal I gave him 500 extra " for taxi" which was well targeted considering he arrived by his motorbike greeted by me outside of hotel. Danger of offering tip for kiss in bar may be guy going for it just to make a buck, I like them kissing me because of love for me , not for almighty baht

+1 indeed rare is the case when spa boy refuses to kiss, even if claims to be straight. Indeed often they start massage with peck somewhere on the neck or shock of shocks , even below, with clear invasion of my privacy, not that I complain, no, no, no