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or you can do what I did on my last trip - take train to Swampy and Jomtien bus from there.

and then were those who complained on Dreaded Ned and others sites of the day that 250 is expensive because they recalled it was 150. The same when we think about prices of gas in our countries . Not worth stressing ourselves out about inflation, it is what it is.

120 baht only, personally tested two weeks ago

I was only once in soi 6 , first night I had massage at Sun, pleasant but not particularly memorable and not much massage but at 2 or 3 am who can complain ? Tawan and Arena visit plans got derailed by goings of the first night but also I felt I need a break from that diet. One of things on short trip is that one needs to focus and prioritize as there's not much time for missteps. For long I held view that BoyzBoyzBoyz is best bar in Thailand but now Moonlight is #1 for me, even without models.

thank you Promsak for all updates

you did right thing, if you are in rush guy will sense it and session will be ruined by both of you. My comment was directed to all reading this thread and possibly not aware about short time room options there.

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Last day and final notes My flight was at noon so just to be sure I asked reception to wake me up at 8 , just in case. They did but I was already awake and almost packed which is not big task for me as I like to travel lightly. All I bought in Thailand to take with me was shirt, shorts and bar of soap ( I like tamarind soap from 7/11 and when use it , say 6 month later, all of the sudden Thai memories are piling up. Amazing how our memory works ) Breakfast in the lobby on the familiar , at one time in the past , clean tablecloth and shortly dash to BTS and I’m on my way. Exchanged some leftover baht to my currency and last 10 baht given to passing by cleaner. Smooth flight , fast connection , smooth arrival at home and in exactly 23 hours , 53 minutes from moment of closing hotel room door I opened my own. Second fastest return from Thailand ever for me . Of course my ATM card , all both of them were on my desk in full view. Oh well, all finished without any problems than to my friend and if he was not there , back up solution was at hand. There are good people everywhere. Since it was past 10 p.m. it was best arrival time possible. Finally some strong leaf tea longed for during all those days and I went to bed during my normal time. Almost no jet lag as result. There are lessons from every trip so few final reflections. Forgetting card was stupid but thanks to my habit of dealing in cash if did not derail anything. Worst case scenario would be curbing my activities and this is why my first day and night were so intensive. I prefer intensity followed by idle time than things diluted in passing time i.e 2 boys followed by none than 1 a day. But that’s me. Booking two nights in two hotels at the same time did not cost much , extra 40 odd $ and it was kind of fun. Cheapest standard rooms was comfortable enough and only enforced my long held view that splurging on accommodation, while nice and self-esteem boosting is not quite necessary as time spent alone and awake in the room was really minimal. I already mentioned, test of having short , just weeklong trip was passed. Like ggobkk before me noticed, on short trip we are more focused. Jet lag was not worse, sure cost of flight weighted heavier but if I want cheap trip I can just walk to my kitchen to make another tea. I may be tempted to repeat that in future in connection with long weekend at home for example. As always it was great pleasure to meet forum members –paulsf, anddy, ChristianPFC, williewillie, aussie_ and DivineMadman ,thank you for your time gentlemen. Before every trip we have anticipation to do that and to see our favorite or dreamed for guys and again it proved futile exercise. Senso closed due to accident so M and Jack weren’t accessible. Art from Nakarat , shining star of my last trip appeared luckily on my last evening and I still managed probably to blew chance of hosting him longer, who knows? Another shining star from Jun, also Art from Boyz BoyzBoyz was missing in action and appeared only on my last Pattaya night without a chance of me even seeing him as I learned about that too late. He was supposed to start at Big Boys but now when they are gone perhaps he will return to BBB , one can hope?. I’m glad Kao was working at Copa as he is one of 4 Pattaya boys I liked to see . But also as always there are nice surprises – Fiber at Prince and whole Nice Boys experience , who would think? Me having luck at Prince and being fan of Sunee? Wow ! Those who are reading my report perhaps noticed, no Arena and no Tawan this time. First in time immemorial. Perhaps a case of overexposure ? And of course there’s issue of Moonlight models, well discussed in respective thread and above. I was coming with firm resolution of trying at least one of trinity : Fluke , Sunny and Nicky and was prepared to pay whatever it takes. It took even more as I finished with three , not just one off. Like with all other luxury items one needs to answer few questions: is that really luxury ? is it worth it’s money? Do I really need that luxury? And then is a sense of adventure- how such model of certain fame will turn out up close? Not only attitude but look itself – often , at least for me, boys on the stage look bit different than up close and partially , even skimpy dressed are always bit different than in their own skin only. My experience with Jupiter boys in the past was not good, not good at all but it was in the past. And I know how it works , sometimes even night after night are different with the same guy. So for me it was curiosity much more than everything else and it worked obviously if I went for it again and again. Yes, for me they look much better than average and more important – they are exactly types I like, muscly but not overbuilt. Sure one can spot similar specimens elsewhere – Fiber, Keow and Art , all three would fit nicely on that stage but here at Moonlight they are in mass so to speak, nit 1 or 2 but 6 or 8. So for me it worked, luxurios, worth my outlay and I need that experience because of twins-their looks and my curiosity. Would I recommend ? Yes if somebody is looking for the same experience I was looking. Will I repeat ? I only hope I will be able to. But one of sign of luxury is rarity, LOL Best part of whole endeavor with those boys was not their looks- it may not appeal to everybody although certainly appealed to me. It was very pleasant surprise of absolute lack of any bad attitude, they went along with they thought I like and they finish sessions when they feel they can. Very important for me but how did they knew? I did not tell them so obviously both were good in reading my signals. So yes, fortune was spent , what’s worse somebody else’s money partially but I did not bring myself to ruin and as always I say I rather pay twice for something I like than have something I don’t for 1/3 of price. Thank you for all you ‘likes’

yes

very handily short time rooms of Suriwongse are literally few steps away.

horror

France and Germany

there are signs at the entry that soi will go on for another 6 years if I'm not mistaken. I believe ChristianPFC posted pictures in his blog

Day 8 No need to look for breakfast place as I had this included in the rate and it was served right in the lobby, regular stuff, eggs, toast , jam tea or coffee, sufficient as far as I see but shame on them - served on really dirty , long time ago white, tablecloth . How much it would take to wash it , dry and change , specially in the hotel of this size ? I wanted to check-in for my flight tomorrow and print boarding pass but my usual internet place in Silom was closed , it seems for good so I walked to MRT , took train to Lumpini, then motorsai for 20 baht to Malaysia hotel where in the lobby they have few computers connected to a printer. What was supposed to be few minutes , turned 2 hour session as pretty heavy storm with lots of rain arrived , locking me inside. So I could , among others , catch up with this forum’s posts. Then I felt hungry so went to their coffee shop for a lunch of , no prize for guessing , chicken with cashew nuts . All that rain cooled air considerably so I decided to walk to Babylon , if only to see where it is and how it looks from outside. Hard to believe and you have it here in writing- I never been there. Soi Nantha , around the corner was half immersed under water but with plastic Birkenstocks this was no problem. My curiosity satiated , I walked back. They must be doing good business as several motorsai drivers were waiting on street in front of Babylon but as I said , air was nice and through Satrorn, Sala Daeng and Thaniya I walked all way to my hotel. Then , after some refreshment I went for a walk to Lumpini park where I was supposed to meet with my friend who helped me with my limited funds problem. No questions asked, this is what friends are for . After circling park twice we went each own way, him to Sukhumvit where he stays and me back to my room but walking toward Silom Guardian Angel just passed by to implant an idea to go and see if by any chance Art returned from Issan to his work in Nakarat massage. So I took a bit circular way and last guy on the bench holding price card was not one other but familiar face and frame. He recognized me even faster than I did him and it took no words to climb stairs and order 1.5 hr massage for 650. After he mutilated me –strong and fast strokes , still dressed in singlet and shorts I expressed an idea to see a bit more of his flesh and he is muscular, hunk guy of very athletic frame. Surely as always he asked me ‘how much you give me? ‘ , ’same same before’ was the answer and a bit of fun started. And I mean it literally. And I blew it. Not long ago on this forum I dispensed an advice that if boy asks ‘where you stay’ that the time to offer visit in your room. But when he asked me “ where’s your hotel ? ” instead of following my own enlightened advice I , fixated on another Moonlight visit just answered without further probing. I did few stupid things this trip, forget my ATM card, booked two hotels for the same nights but that was by far most idiotic neglect. I had few fabulous encounters this short trip, Fiber, twice Nicky , Fluke , Oud, A, Kai but that 1 ½ hr at Nakarat was my best of them all. How I could be so stupid? I ‘m not sure he would even took my offer but I will never know if I did not ask. True to form, the same like in Jun, when on street somebody passing by seeing my happy face said ‘ happy, happy” and obviously happy I was. Than to Chula Besaj pharmacy on Rama 4 to buy some medicine which costs me there less than half of home price and I calculated that buying 2 year supply would save me enough for air fare. They were actually closing and place was dark but when I told them what I’m looking for, business sense prevailed, for few hundreds they wouldn’t re- open perhaps but for few thousand it was worth it . Then to soi Twilight where 7 seconds after me anddy happened to arrive so we decided to seat at Hot Male 2 on soi level , ordered out drinks and immediately two Cambodian cuties joined us. Very clingy and kissy but unfortunately I had other designs so all I could offer to one who joined me was drink and a tip. Particularly endearing was his plead “ I go with you, I like old men”, LOL . Time to die I guess. After while I paid my dues , tipped boy , good bye handshake with anddy and moved to Maxi’s where paulsf just arrived. Few recent news and another good bye and then crossed Suriwong to go to Moonlight for the last time. Show just started, few new numbers with new , very shapely legged performer playing flying angel on the wheel. No I did not watch show alone as Nicky spied me entering bar and joined me immediately. It did not take long before he asked me about going with me and only answer I could envision was ‘yes ‘ although I told him tip will not be as generous like week ago but he did not blink an eye. All models with exception of Tam were on the stage today and after their presentation I could have last glimpse of Fluke and #15 before dressed Nicky arrived and we were ready to go. Outside Sunny was sitting with his lady , I could not resist to see his smile again by forcing 100 baht on him ‘ thank you for visiting Moonlight was his good bye to me. No , we did not go to the room because Nicky suggested we go to another place , not as expensive so again motions from week ago were repeated, visiting gas station where I contributed to filling tank and then Thonglor and some quieter place where several Thai yuppies were having good time . Well certified by one of them having hearty vomit when I went to WC few minutes later. Complemented our waiter on his hairstyle , I like spiky hair and I swear he turned red a bit hearing that. We had some drinks and light food and good conversation greasing final 1500 or so bill. Again not necessary but very interesting as I don’t frequent such places so it was kind of refreshing novelty for me. After hour or so we returned to the hotel hand holding all the way. Very pleasant and quite hot , no rush , no fuss session, fitting end of my Moonlight shined short Thai trip. Warm and long good bye embrace and in 5 minutes he was back – forget his car keys, nice to give me another chance to hug such a hunk. And this is how day 8 , my last finished.

of which year, 2023 or 2027 ?

Hey , you can question my taste in men and everything else, that's no problem, I'm not short of self-esteem. As for competitor for your lads- don't be so sure, from time to time world see me with scandalously thin , 20 y.o. just for fun and to see how others have it.. As for gentlemanly behavior I'd not buy boy of somebody's lap unless he would be clearly looking for a rescue. It happened few times than boy sitting with customer came to me to shake hands and asked me if I take him. " you are sitting with guy already" " I don't like him because of ....." , then I agreed. We don't own boys sitting with us and if we really interested in them sometimes we need to made a securing move. It's why I was upset when Keow dumped me on day 5 but did not held it against him and gave him and myself chance next day. I encourage you and everybody to visit Moonlight, there are types for everybody, at least almost everybody. Floor models are mostly of excellent quality either. Then, after visit , comments, whatever they will be, gain more credibility. It's not the same to say ' I never go to Tawan because I don't like big boys" as opposite to " I went to Tawan and did not like it because I don't like big boys "

I did not try to convert anybody as obviously it's up to person to decide what he considers safer, to carry passport or to keep in in the safe but just explained why I prefer to carry mine

predicting is very hard , specially predicting the future if you tried to be nice it did not work quite way you intended. Old fools at least made that far, you apparently have still 20 years to go and with such bitter disposition it may not be happiest 20 years of your life

I carry mine, ,learned lesson from straight friend who was entertaining himself in soi Cowboy few years ago when police raided soi. He had his passport so was let go but farang without were herded to a police van and driven , one can safely assume , not to their respective hotels

don't worry , many straights would agree with that and be surprised what one guy can see in another . As long as you can live with the fact that I saw plenty to move me and executed my desire to see some up close at great expense we are OK. Gay means we like men but not necessarily all the same men. If you don't see anything in those models in means one thing for me - one less competitor to off them so all I can say is 'thank you for questioning my taste" lol

nothing wrong with having external help for show participants and it happens quite often - best example are B-Boys performing in both BBB and XBoys. When I visited ca. 10 days ago they had actually at least of dozen go-go, all reasonably good looking , none looked out of place. As for location, XBoys somehow manages to soldier on and it's only across the soi. But perhaps as spoon suggests, they gave themselves only so much time to get it rolling and when it did not work, they cut their losses and run away. I feel sorry for the boys / and that handsome mamasan /

very wise and summarizes whole debate nicely indeed

even Pattaya was not as bad but that fateful night with string of mishaps it was. Writing report I decided to include my true feelings at end of that day. in case of hotel it was cold analysis from distance of the time, after all how much time I really spent inside, very little and most of that time I'm sleeping or have better things to admire than how walls are painted. Yes, last two days in Bangkok did the trick of changing heart. It cost a little but it worked ! thank you, I'm not that extravagant as it seems. Some excesses like first off were budgeted and calculated for. I agree, sometimes we need to make our hair loose a bit, after all we are on vacations. And in great scheme of things we are not taking about buying car from upper shelf or an apartment with a view but some overpaid time with hunks made of dreams. In my much younger years when travelling I learned that lesson you quote ' you really want something , go for it", paying it off is better than living with regret. wise but often you have it because you did not spent and it you start spending , soon you don't have it. My attitude to vacations is 'if you don't have it, stay home" , many may not agree but idea of being on vacations and counting how many beers a day I can have is not particularly appealing to me. There are people who at every mention of price quotation jump in horror how expensive it is, how cheap it was in days past and how Pattaya is cheaper than Bangkok and in Pattaya herself how good value Sunee compared to Boyztown is. It it all true but it's not how I want to poison my days in Thailand, good enough I'm low maintenance at home.

Considering Bangkok size I'm sure that there's more sex happening in BKK than Pattaya, Whether all those people are using KY ?- no idea

perhaps they started too high with 360 alcoholic drinks and 260 soft drinks. At least I have good memories of handsome mamasan and long long time off.