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this would be my approach as well - at least to pay him something, most likely at least half of what his normal tip would be. the same when boy reneges on a sealed deal ie. agrees to long time and all the sudden after hour of two recalls his motorsai wrongly parked and wants to leave. When I renege on a deal for whatever reason then it would be full tip / case of Toy Boy guy we promised to off in Jun and then my QBF saw better potential, first boy got his promised tip anyway , early Christmas for him I guess /.

Very interesting points from both of you above. As for lie detector I can only say until one is actually hooked to one it may be very risky to guess what answer will be to ANY question. There are loud homophobes who not only had gay intimacy experience but actually liked it and there are gays who are firmly against gay marriage. They may be priests who don't believe in God but also proclaimed atheists who do. There's a lot of hypocrisy and I would not single out leftists for it but certainly abdismaili has a point. Lots of rightists , family values defenders have mistresses of both genders aside. And preachers of transparency and honesty with palms waiting to be greased at every turn.

on Uninhabited Island perhaps

are you saying that person capable of walking to the immigration should request this service just to bypass immigration lines? I have my doubts to put it mildly

it's also in the self interest , what if he retaliates with ' I never saw men with such a small cock in my life ' ? and will translate it to Thai just to make sure all.know

I'm superstitious free but had few situations in life which can't be easily explained so I'm not dismissing them , still I have no problem of getting of bed with left leg first on Friday the 13th

One can quite often see familiar faces of bar and massage boys there but try to be discreet as this is not a pick up area so don't embarrass your boy by saying loudly 'I see you in the bar in the evening". And don't be surprised if boy you had massage with just last night pretends not to see you. In short behave like in any public space , after all if you meet you last night's boy on BTS you won't be saying loudly ' my ass is still sore after you pumped me last night'. Paulfort approach is sensible one, sit somewhere close and hope for the best

English is not my first , in fact not even second language so I need to ask : can one be both promiscuous and monogamous ? serious question, not trying to stir arguments here I don't think it will do any harm and may help a bit against milder forms of contamination. As for brushing , I'd say avoid few hours before sucking since brush may cause microcuts and gum bleeding.

with their hand only perhaps either or but not both, you have sex with somebody chances are you have a sex will all others he has sex with before.

accepting yes , but not necessary paying for it, no reason to call it judgmental. I have story similar to firecat's and yours from Nov 2013 with Dreamboys boy. In bar he looked manly but when I offed him and he dressed he turned out to be fem in the extreme. Before we landed in the room we visited a restaurant and a bar where he gave me enough signals to dismiss him and send back but I did not to my regret. In the room new round of antics followed and after 40 minutes of not even being able to touch him finally I kicked him out with 1000 consolation prize, worst spent money in Thailand ever for me. As for a subject I, like few other prefer an interaction in the bar and to see what I'm taking home. Simply I like whole decorum of sitting in the bar , watching a show and parade of boys , fending off mamasans, picking up massage boy out of line behind the glass etc. Disappointments still possible as example above shows but minimized with an entertainment value thrown in. But of course it comes with higher costs and sometimes a lot of time wasted but those a prices I'm prepared to pay and gladly do.

tell us something about your nasty client experiences if you will

or at least free meal

quoting too much may be polite way of saying they are not interested or they can't meet you today, so OP may be correct in his suspicion of non-compatibility. Numazu in his recent thread had story of boy who quoted him 5000 for long time and when he declined , boy said that he couldn't do long time due to some commitments in the morning, hope I remember it correctly. It works both way - counteroffer way too low may signalize to a boy that you changed mind and are not interested anymore. Market economy - negotiate price to a level acceptable to both. Don't get discouraged if boy declined today, next day he may be interested in you and your offer.

usually funeral followed by family squabble over the will

or sit in the Boyztown and watch Chinese groups watching 'zoo' like Moses said and then go to one of bars and here you go

at new location quite a few hunks were visible when they open at new location

it looks you work overtime to promote Rio. LOL

yes , you are correct , both USA and Canada has this stupid system , so one always pays more. It's very annoying for travelers and locals too don't know if 5$ bill will be enough for their 4.35 coffee and sandwich special It's a bit like booking through Agoda which practices the same crap, 100 $ room costs you 117 at checkput

very well visible in the last photo

I like this line since both of you belong to the same category.

if boy agrees - what is the problem? Often it may be even him who suggest that. If you read my June adventures I took Tawan boy for two days to Pattaya at his suggestion . It was his idea and twice over few days before we went he told me that he doesn't want anything from me , just to pay off fee for 2 days. Exact words were ' you don't need to pay me, just bar ' He just wanted to have a short break I suppose. Of course I paid all expenses and tipped him generously at end / two times my long time rate plus 1000 baht /; but if I did not tip would anybody including you accuse me of not being fair ? Serious question.

" make sure you fix conditions, some boys may request double tip or at least higher tip because there are two of you" this is what I'm trying to say - agree on condition beforehand. While I fully agree that both logic and fairness demands that if two clients are involved tip should be doubled, as both Bucknaway and my own experiences described above shows boy may settle for less on his own will including having a go for one tip. And this may not be unreasonable in case when boy has an actual sex with only one with other just watching while knitting a scarf or something or boy is just curious or he will charge for being fucked but fucking other guy he will consider just as a bonus - up to him as they say in Kansas Bottom line - tell the boy what scenario you expect and ask him about the fee

I saw only ladies doing foot massage but from Dragon's post it looks that they may have full service masseuses now

lucky country indeed

Please check as it would be news for me, bad news I haste to add, I like their boys.