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not a bad ratio for low season

another point why I'm not using wallet at all, when leaving room I try to have everything secured and ready for new guest just in case of surprise encounter right on the stairway. Happened to me twice , both times at BBB Inn. Once I grabbed a boy who just left another room after some loud commotion with ' fucking farang' as he said, second time boy who helped me with a luggage stay to help me to unpack for a fee, ahem. Money belt was already in a safety box downstairs so no risk.

Believe me I'm last one to support military takeovers but in theory in may be justified if country would not have functioning government, society were on verge of collapse and economy unable to support society's basic needs it's possible to imagine that military as only organized and disciplined structure is taking over. NONE OF THE ABOVE APPLIED TO THAILAND in May 2014 so coup was just cynic power grab dressed as usual as national salvation. Problem with military is that they never know when to hand power back to the electorate and eventually they are forced to by unrest and external pressure.

Since we are discussing smells subject in another thread and agreed that Thai level of hygiene is very high, thanks God, I have question: Before hitting the sheets do you guys shower with your boys or prefer to do it separately? What boys like better? To answer my own question, in the room I like to shower with them before and after , always invite them to and very rarely they don't like an idea, most stupid excuse I heard 2-3 times was " I'm shy". In such a case I don't insist but for me always it was sign of not so good encounter to follow. Sometimes there's disagreement about water temperature but even watching them showering extends my life big time. In the massage places if there are communal showers I let them to take a lead and do whatever they suggest. If there's shower in the room / cubicle I ask them if we will shower together and answers are mixed before massage but usually they are taking an offer after one. Fact that I do not tip before a shower probably helps a bit to facilitate decision. Surprisingly perhaps in opposition to room encounters I did not notice any variation in quality of service in massage places whether we showered together or separately. Possibly fact of who is host is a factor, in the room as a guests they feel more to oblige, in massages is other way around and it possibly management /co-workers factor plays as well.

It's funny how this thread evolved - original post was about smell of food and we landed with unwashed boys / at client request /. While ago one of posters here asked about how to go about to buy from boys their end-of-day underwear so definitely there's market for stronger smells. Which begs for showering question - starting new thread

Oh , so we have 5 uses of hotel room starting with 's', nothing distasteful about shaving,

you are not the first person to confirm that nothing beats BKK traffic like motorsais and I need to admit that quite often I take them just for thrill of the ride. Yes I know they are dangerous and every third Thai boy bears the scars of motorbike accident but I can't resist.

I would not be surprised if you were wrong as there are connoisseurs of strong odors and I recall at least 2 different boys who told to me that they had clients who did not want boys to shower before convention.

we can wait for answer that long but will Thais be that patient ?

that's what I 'd suspect.. I must add that I'm of good opinion of working boys with girlfriends. Quite possibly that need money for those girls but I noticed they tend to keep their part of bargain. Exceptions apply of course but I'm not discouraged when boy says he likes girls. I always ask this ' do you have giorlkfriend / boyfriend question as part of our conversation and I'm amazed how honest answers they give

I don't carry wallet , stays in safety box along with passport and cards and I take them out only when need it. Bulky pockets are easy targets for thiefs, I don't mind man showing bulky things in his trousers but wallet is not thing I'm looking for

I don't want to sound distasteful but you forgot one more 's'

My apologies for resurrecting this zombie thread but I found it informative and interesting so hope some new readers will find it the same way. Personally if there's an option I prefer to leave my valuables in the safe on reception keeping in the room safe only 2-3 days worth of cash. Less convenient but somehow I feel better that way. In such a case I still do not use room safe in boy's presence. This would be rude IMHO. For whatever I think I may need for him I keep on me or hidden somewhere in the daypack. If there's no safety deposit box available I keep money under padlock in my luggage. I use normal , solid padlock , not one of those crapy, tiny ones. I need to stress that never ever I had anything missing from hotel room in Thailand / and for that matter anywhere in the world / but there were sporadic reports of theft by the boys and hotel staff from others so I rather don't lead anybody into temptation. I had a case then I left boy in the room alone for several minutes and went to retrieve forgotten bag from restaurant and while away realized that I had 7000 left in the open backpack on the desk. Of course nothing was missing but it was boy I offed few times before / and hope to do in the future, some of them you just miss /. Only possessions at times boys were interested in and helped themselves were drinks from the mini bar, now I got smarter and tell them what bottles are available and which ones not and explain why by showing them charges sheet, no problem understanding. When outside I have money spread in various pockets in my shirt / always use 2 pocketed with velcro or button / and my trousers , always make sure they have at least one back pocket on top of two front ones. I have system of how much is in each pocket - shirt 2000 on one, 1500 in another one. Trousers, 700 in 100 bahts in one , change and all 20 and 50 in another one. back pocket 500 in each if I have two. This way I minimize possibility of theft but really this helps with keeping track of expenses with bonus of not being forced to show wad of notes and comb through them to find proper one. Often in crowded market I see such a scene of farang pulling pocketful of notes to pay for purchase and then people wonder about having money lifted by observing thief. It needs to be said that Thailand is known for scams but definitely not for theft and I always feel completely safe even at deep night. Never hurts to be careful though. When in need of exchanging money I use money belt hidden in my undies and usually return straight to the hotel with the loot.

nobody is disputing fact that sometimes democratically elected governments are disaster / Hitler / but at least population can have some ownership of that, is case of coup is castrated of such feeling. At the same token not all authoritarian regimes are bad for countries but eventually they tend to believe in their omnipotence which leads to disaster as there's no election to be considered and electorate pleased

That's true, on quite a few occasions I even noticed boys put tissue in their shoes when undressing to prevent odor being released, one more reason to love them , they always smell so good, Gee getting hot in here !

right, I like Mexican president too

I share your low requirements for an accommodation. Clean room and sheets, warm water, working A/C, walking distance from main attraction, at least one working electricity outlet, no joiners fee and I'm set. Pool, beach , breakfast, even internet - unimportant. Usually once per trip I like to boost my ego by staying 1-2 night in something better, usually Tarnatwan just for fun. Always prepay hotels or keep money for them separate from other funds. My budget in baht is 1000 for daily expenditures / food , transport,admissions, beggars / , 3000 for day time activities / 1-2 massages a day, can't live without them/, 4000 for night time / drinks, offs, dinner with boy, boy's tip /. Most of my offs are long time massage boys but usually I treat them with dinner , than we go to the bar to see the show before the rest Yes it may be quite a bit but for me vacations, in Thailand or elsewhere are most important event during year and I'm not going to spent them counting every baht or quetzal. What helps is I'm pretty disciplined with such a budget ,can skip massage or dinner but would not shortcut boy on his tip even if at times they did not deserve it really. As LoveThailand if I feel chemistry with the boy tip is increased even if day budget would be busted. Even if minimum tip is less than 1000 I tip at least 1000, as long as I could tough his erect cock in an intimate situation I think he deserved 1000 at least and so far it always happened to me even is supposedly straight places. Never tipped more that 3000 doesn't matter how many buffaloes died and fathers landed in jail. As mentioned few times before I have my personal bonus 500 payable if boy is erect when undressing before I even tough him, I 'm glad to pay for an illusion he finds me so attractive. In go-go bar I always tip 100 at least one attractive boy from line-up, 100-200 boy sitting with me if any, 100 big cock participant if he comes to me to show his wares and let me to tough it and 100 fuck -show participants. It's why I don't complain about Dreamboys prices as there neither big cocks nor fucks are soliciting tips among us voyeurs. Bottom line of all this rant is - if I have good time I deeply believe boys should be compensated for it. Several months later I still smile at memories, I have feeling I owe this to them.

Exactly, I'm grateful that people are taking time and sharing their adventures and expenditures with us as it usually comes at cost of their vacation time. I like posters financial data as it helps to plan the trip and relate our own spending habits to what others do. Some are big spenders or sound like them, some are very frugal / Happy Birthday Christian PFC !!! / and this helps many people to realize that exotic Thai vacations are not that expensive like somebody living far away may think. Active posters are tiny minority of people reading our forum and we may not ever realize how many people were helped with their preparation for Thai vacations by reading our posts here, for years I was one of them so i know it first hand. If somebody ask me I'd like even more of spending and pricing information but understand that many may be apprehensive to share for fear of being labelled boasters or too cheap particularly when tips are mentioned. On another hand we shouldn't be too sensitive to other comments as not always disagreement means criticism. If somebody doesn't share our taste in boys what makes us thinking he should share out taste in food, hotels or clothing etc. For some squeezing every satang may be priority, other may be looking for an indulgence for one reason or another. Labeling often is not easy as many people are both big spenders and cheap charlies at the same time. I know somebody who comes to Thailand on business, stays regularly in Conrad hotel , apparently one of expensive ones but eats on the street only ( not to save money but considers street food tastier and more authentic). Personally I don't spent much on food as mentioned above, have pretty low requirements for an accommodation, consider taxis wasted money but I like tipping boys well and consider exorbitant drink and off fees at Dreamboys and massage fees at Senso justified by quality of their boys in the look department / performance may vary but not always due to boys fault, after all there are two of us in the sheets, right?/

another point of how different we all are, I spent very little on food in LOS reason being my low tolerance for a heat and I lose an appetite almost immediately after leaving Swamy. This is not producing any savings nor making me slimmer since when on vacations I'm switching to beer diet which normally I don't consume at all but somehow beer makes me running smoothly in the heat

and another 3 days before we will see report of your adventures?

It's what Khadaffi said once, in long run did not help neither him nor Libya

Michael, like Thai boys say ' you think too much". No need to sound apologetic about your spending habits whatever it is. I do not think you came across as bragging and it's not what Bob meant. My reading of his comment is that at times people may be tickled by what they perceive as bragging about somebody's life style whether warranted or not. Jealousy is just a part of human nature Some folks who are not travelling have wrong notion of affordability of exotic trips. Thailand being possibly best value for money with first class infrastructure and still Third World prices enables us to indulge a bit and nothing wrong with it. Some people like splendid houses, other glamorous clothes, jewelry or cars and still other like fancy vacations. Keep posting, spending and reporting.

and she does, in her days she was possibly best looking prime minister in the whole world

correct, this would be comparing apples to bananas. Suu Kyi rised to occasion and did not give up. Yingluck seems more feather in the wind but like quite a few Asian ladies she may rise to occasion as well. Benzir Bhutto, Indira and Sonia Gandhi, Sirivamo Bandaranaike, Corazon Aquino, even two happles begums in Bangladesh they all were proxies for their fathers/ husbands and at one point picked up where they left. Yes, with mixed results but this can be said about any politician past and present.