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me too, but I was using my mobile phone and there were no issues and/or warnings. However, on my PC my Browser (Google Chrome) started to install an UpdaterBrowsers.rar - malicious program. I was able to stop it and perform a virus scan - so all is ok. so, as GB said - please wait until Moses resolves this issue and GB gives us the all clear. Cheers, M.

Let's hope that this distinction evaporates and that MORE fun can soon begin in the Jomtien Complex.

Dear TotallyOz, Many thanks to you that we even have this forum to participate in. I am truly indebted to you that you continue to support this forum both financially and from a time commitment point of view. It is truly aporeciated. M.

The entire OpenAI chatGPT and soon Google LaMDA AI technologies are very fascinating. BUT, in terms of the way that humans think and can forecast patterns - the AI is not always accurate or returns incorrect answers / logical predictions. https://www.assemblyai.com/blog/how-chatgpt-actually-works/ However, even with its current shortcomings - I am quite sure that each future iteration will be better than the previous.....

That reminds me of a similar story when I was learning Italian in Italy. Each Monday morning we had to try to say what we did during the weekend. So, I said something like, "Ho scopato tante nuove cose" - I fucked many new things - when I wanted to instead say, "Ho scoperto tante nuove cose" - I discovered many new things.... The teacher barked at me and told me to stay quiet and to sit down!!! I never made that mistake again even if it was not far from the actual reality of my weekend :>))

I also like 3some - massages - 4 hands and I don't like to do it in the massage shop - so I pay a premium over what others here in Pattaya / Jomtien pay to do it in the massage shop. I pay 2.000 baht to each guy - 2 massage guys - so, 4.000 baht. Some will sure SCREAM and say that I am overpaying for this local market but I do not believe so by much more. Here is an example if I do the same thing in a massage shop: 500 paid to the massage shop 1.500 tip paid to guy #1 1.500 tip paid to guy #2 ------ 3.500 to do it at the massage shop instead of the comfort of my home where I control the music, lighting, oils and lotions that we use, what we drink, fun chat time also on my balcony to know the guys better. Also, at home I do not need to worry about some things that freak me out at some of the massage shops; bugs and insects, where do I put my valuables when I take my shower, strange smells, temperature is too hot or too cold, I do not like the music, etc. so, for a 500 baht premium I am VERY happy to "order in" for my massage fun...

please update us about Part II - so we can know how this saga continues - and please ask him why the mamasan forced him back to the bar ?

I personally know how frustrating these vaccine trials can be. After a high % of my friends died from AIDS during the 1980s, I agreed to be a volunteer for the VaxGen 3 year trial period, which if I remember correctly ran from 1998 - 2000. It was also unsuccessful - as it was deemed to be only 17% effective. It was my small way to do something for the loss of life of so many of my friends.

Hi @spoon - do you know if you can dance there ? or is it the ever so typical - falang sit and falang drink type of place ? I saw in one of their pre-Covid videos on their facebook page that people (customers) were dancing - even on the stage :>))

Hi Andy, It depends on what types of guys that you are looking for ? Below is a website of the Jomtien Complex with has various maps of the different types of places (massage, restaurants, bars, etc.) https://www.gaysupertown.com/massage I have only been to 3 of the many massage places - they are indicated below with the orange arrows. For Soda Massage - they tend to be too feminine for my tastes. I prefer more the guys at the Foxy Smile and Pattaya #1 Massage shops. Please note that one of the negatives of the above map is that it excludes ALL of the massage shops that are immediately outside of the Jomtien Complex. There are many - on the street that goes to the beach (Thappraya Road) and also on Jomtien Second Road. The above map lists 10 massage shops but I believe that there is an additional 10 massage shops on the external perimeter of the Jomtien Complex. For short time rooms - I heard that if you ask the host guys in the bars that they would know where the various places are within the Complex (upstairs) and outside of it nearby.

yes, this is my problem because as you know - I am usually in bed by midnight. but, if I knew that this NEW club / disco was really operational and open then I could take a disco nap from 10pm until 12 midnight and then head over to Boyztown to check it out. I would hate to do that and everything is already closed because of the 2am curfew.....

It was reported over in the Sawatdee Gay Thailand forum SGT forum that the former Boyz Music bar / disco has reopened in Pattaya - in BoyzTown. Can anyone confirm ? I checked their former facebook page but it is not updated. https://www.facebook.com/BoyzMusic2019/ Their pre-Covid 2019 information implies that you can dance there and watch their shows. Rumor says that it will open from 1:30am until 4am. (??? special license since the normal closing time is 2am ???)

Great report kn5. please keep your updates cumming - as I like the way that you are presenting your trip report to all of us. enjoy!!

wow - so sexy - I would not mind those guys calling me Uncle - What kind of desserts do they look for ?

How do you guys feel when the Thais call us "Uncle" ? it took me a while to get used to it....

He is Yummy!! hmmm, after meeting you - you definitely did not come across as an introvert - I mean in a positive way of course. :>)))

Vinapu, this is VERY good advice. I have had 2 separate occasions that I can remember where I was hungry before a scheduled massage and I ate. That is a BIG no-no. During the massage I felt like I was going to vomit several times depending on where the masseur(s) were pressing on my body. At one point, I had to tell the masseur that I was getting off of the massage table as I felt like I would vomit - he was worried it was him - I said, no, it was my stupidity - I ate shortly before the massage. Anyway, we changed the program around and had the fun part first and then the completion of the massage afterwards and I am happy to say that NO hurls were ejected from my stomach.

Wow Pyrrhus, For a first trip report - it is GREAT!! I truly enjoyed reading it and I cannot wait for the next segment.

and meet the objective to keep more of the tourist money in the Thai economy. Lately, the Thai baht has strengthened to around 33 baht to 1 USD - when back in October it was 38 baht for 1 USD. Let us see how high the Thai baht will go during this run ???

wow 12is12 - 2 things: 1.) I am impressed that you did not cancel any vowels in that above wonderful message. 2.) and having met you in prima persona, I can say it is true what you wrote :>)) I would add an additional proverb that may help in these street walking moments: "Eyes are the window of the soul"

WOW - that is really generous. From today until the end of this year, 31-Dec-2023, that would be 353 days or 11 months and 19 days. so, to go from 30 days to 353 days is INCREDIBLE!!

unless of course the purpose of your flight is to retire forever in Thailand - then it is a one way ticket (with a cheap outbound throw away ticket to a nearby country to make the bureaucrats happy).

There is a new Paradise Massage in the Jomtien Complex - I have not been there nor heard about any massage reviews. However, there have been some rumblings about a bad bathroom that can be accessed via the Paradise Massage for the customers in the nearby bars where there are NO bathroom facilities. I cannot comment on this hearsay NOR do I know if this new Paradise Massage place is affiliated with the one in Bangkok.

To lighten things up a bit regarding Covid - Jimmy Fallon from the Tonight Show in the USA doing a B-52 rendition of the Covid variant xbb.1.5

I attended this PCEC meeting and Barry Kenyon's presentation was excellent and VERY illuminating.