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You are right and that is probably how the boss of Winner have reasoned too.

Winner boys bar used to have a facebook page and a webpage but now I can't find either so they probably came to the conclusion that they don't need them. A bit strange since a facebookpage is free advertising.

Of course the boy get some of the money for the drink. That has been standard procedure for all bars I've ever heard of in Thailand. In Winnerboys a boydrink costs 130 baht and the boy gets 50 baht of that.

For bars in Pattaya I would say BoyzBoyzBoyz in Boyztown and Bamboo bar in Jomtien. But it is probably more easy finding escorts in that age from the apps.

I was there too yesterday and have to agree. Many boys and many of them stunning. 3 of them were wearing those sexy underwear that reveils most part of their ass. Delightful.

So? Your apologetic responses dont even have to do with the issue. The facts is that the maps in Thaipuan are outdated, incomplete and for a large point simply wrong. Therefor not good to use for a newbie who want to explore thai gay businesses. Im sure you can make up many excuses why this is the case but that doesnt change this.

Yes of course Thaipuan is profitable. Or else it would close down just as those other examples you mention.

You seem to lack publishing knowledge since this is totally different from one magazine to another. There are of course no 3-6 month rule. Concerning niche market that makes it especially important for a magazine to know about their niche.

I am very sure that Thaipuan magazine is not a charity. It is a profitable business. Just like the boys in the bars I will not work for free. If Thaipuan want me to scout for them and inform them that Funny boys closed years ago and that there are bars named Toyboys and X-boys, they will have to pay.

They don't even have a map of Sunee. Only Boyztown and Jomtien complex. It's like Sunee doesn't exist in the Thaipuan magazine.

I came across the June 2018 issue of free gay thai magazine Thaipuan. I have always been amazed of how inaccurate their maps of gay businesses are, and it was no different this time either. In the past I thought the reason why they miss so many bars are because they only place bars or other businesses on their maps who pay them for adds. That is probably one reason but not all. But I think now it's more of that they simply don't want to do some research and work to visit and see what is open or not. In Pattaya Boyztown they claim that Funny boys agogo still exists... That says alot of how many years it was since their reporters seem to have visited Boyztown. Castro is wrong location on the map. In soi 13/3 and soi 13/4 there is only one boybar according to Thaipuan - 360 degree boy (which in fact has been closed since last year)... Toyboys doesn't exist on their map. I could do a long list of more examples but to summarize: don't use the maps of Thaipuan.

I can't say that I ever enjoyed a visit to Dreamboys. Sure they sometimes have handsome boys but the place is really boring. No athmosphere at all. Boys standing on stage looking bored, not dancing, no party feeling what so ever. You just feel you want to leave as quickly as possible. And yes, the drink price at 220 baht is extremely overpriced for the experience you get in that bar. I used to like Kawaii boys though. Smiling and dancing boys, they were fun to look at.

What is a normal short time tip for someone from the apps?

No it's not. It is because the chinese who make up 99% of these bars visitors don't want to see too much skin. That would shock the chinese ladies too much. They are happy to just see the boys in jeans and shirts and to get a short glimpse of their bodies in the shows, so the bars adjust to this.

What an odd question to ask in a gogobar... So the boys in this gogobar aren't already shirtless from the start? That is considered as an 'extra service'?

Lip syncing ladyboys, outrageous drink prices, shower scene with boys in briefs. Sounds like they keep the modern Soi twilight spirit alive even if not located there. I think asiaguys.net had many good points in their recent article about the decline of Bangkoks gogobars, such as

There is no Classic boys club. The only boy agogo bars remaining in soi 13/3 now are X-boys and Dreamboys. In soi 13/4 there is A-bomb. If I count from memory just 3-4 years ago there were 10 boy agogos in the Pattayaland area of theese two sois. Now there are only 3 left.

Kawaii boys was open yesterday at 23:30 as a karaoke (I guess?) when I had a walk in the soi. From the outside I saw some boys fully dressed in jeans and shirts. I did not bother look inside and no one approached me. "Few customers? Get those boys to put on some clothes that will bring in the crowds!". I wish them good luck but I prefer gogobars with shirtless boys and is not interested in karaoke. In Dreamboys I recognized 4 boys as former gogoboys in Kawaii.

Sad news. Agree with all above. Kawaii boys was a great bar but started going downhill with fewer boys and for the first time ever as far as I know started to have some pompoi boys on stage too. Otherwise before a bar known for strictly slim and cute twinks. But unlike some other bars closing down lately I think Kawaii agogo boys will be missed by many. I doubt it will attract farangs as a karaoke bar, but that probably is not the idea either.

Apparently they have given up completely now. The bar has been closed since a few days.

Now a lady massage place there instead. It is the same shop that is located opposite that has expanded. I can't imagine why because I've never seen a customer there when walking by, but obviously they are hoping to attract the arab crowd in soi vc.

You are so 100% spot on with that Vessey. That is exactly why so many boybars have failed - the bar owners didn't understood the importance of their bars to be FUN. If people just want to find a boy the apps are very competative. But many people go to bars to enjoy themselves and they are ready to pay to be entertained. That is why fun bars like Winnerboys and Nice boys in Sunee are sucessful. And bars who are/where not fun and thought customers wanted to hear "What number!? You take boy! Can sit with you! You tell me number!" constantly by a 150 kilo ladyboy, are not popular and are closing down.

Few boys and few customers? Sounds like the soi Twilight bars need to charge more for their drinks? A 1000 baht per drink should do it? Hey hey thai logic

I was there a month or so ago. Very friendly and helpful manager. Doesn't bother you if you want to sit alone but greets you and is available for questions or give you information like who can bottom (there actually sometimes are a few bottomboys there). Most times about 10 boys in the bar. Most straight tops, fit and muscular. Very friendly, flexing on stage for you and trying to get you to pick them. Alcohol drink for customer 220 baht. Boydrink 250 baht. Off fee 400 and expected short time tip 1500. Those were the prices last time I inquired. Only negative is that rotation on stage is extremely slow so it takes some time before all of the boys have been up on stage because they are only 6 of them on stage at the same time.

Sounds like a nice evening. You guys didn't miss anything in Sunee. It was unbelievably quiet Thursday evening. Eros even closed for unknown reason. I went for the 23:30 show in X-boys. Shower scene with two boys for that show. Show good as usual but no 'special show', guess that is only in the 22:00-show.