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What is a normal short time tip for someone from the apps?

No it's not. It is because the chinese who make up 99% of these bars visitors don't want to see too much skin. That would shock the chinese ladies too much. They are happy to just see the boys in jeans and shirts and to get a short glimpse of their bodies in the shows, so the bars adjust to this.

What an odd question to ask in a gogobar... So the boys in this gogobar aren't already shirtless from the start? That is considered as an 'extra service'?

Lip syncing ladyboys, outrageous drink prices, shower scene with boys in briefs. Sounds like they keep the modern Soi twilight spirit alive even if not located there. I think asiaguys.net had many good points in their recent article about the decline of Bangkoks gogobars, such as

There is no Classic boys club. The only boy agogo bars remaining in soi 13/3 now are X-boys and Dreamboys. In soi 13/4 there is A-bomb. If I count from memory just 3-4 years ago there were 10 boy agogos in the Pattayaland area of theese two sois. Now there are only 3 left.

Kawaii boys was open yesterday at 23:30 as a karaoke (I guess?) when I had a walk in the soi. From the outside I saw some boys fully dressed in jeans and shirts. I did not bother look inside and no one approached me. "Few customers? Get those boys to put on some clothes that will bring in the crowds!". I wish them good luck but I prefer gogobars with shirtless boys and is not interested in karaoke. In Dreamboys I recognized 4 boys as former gogoboys in Kawaii.

Sad news. Agree with all above. Kawaii boys was a great bar but started going downhill with fewer boys and for the first time ever as far as I know started to have some pompoi boys on stage too. Otherwise before a bar known for strictly slim and cute twinks. But unlike some other bars closing down lately I think Kawaii agogo boys will be missed by many. I doubt it will attract farangs as a karaoke bar, but that probably is not the idea either.

Apparently they have given up completely now. The bar has been closed since a few days.

Now a lady massage place there instead. It is the same shop that is located opposite that has expanded. I can't imagine why because I've never seen a customer there when walking by, but obviously they are hoping to attract the arab crowd in soi vc.

You are so 100% spot on with that Vessey. That is exactly why so many boybars have failed - the bar owners didn't understood the importance of their bars to be FUN. If people just want to find a boy the apps are very competative. But many people go to bars to enjoy themselves and they are ready to pay to be entertained. That is why fun bars like Winnerboys and Nice boys in Sunee are sucessful. And bars who are/where not fun and thought customers wanted to hear "What number!? You take boy! Can sit with you! You tell me number!" constantly by a 150 kilo ladyboy, are not popular and are closing down.

Few boys and few customers? Sounds like the soi Twilight bars need to charge more for their drinks? A 1000 baht per drink should do it? Hey hey thai logic

I was there a month or so ago. Very friendly and helpful manager. Doesn't bother you if you want to sit alone but greets you and is available for questions or give you information like who can bottom (there actually sometimes are a few bottomboys there). Most times about 10 boys in the bar. Most straight tops, fit and muscular. Very friendly, flexing on stage for you and trying to get you to pick them. Alcohol drink for customer 220 baht. Boydrink 250 baht. Off fee 400 and expected short time tip 1500. Those were the prices last time I inquired. Only negative is that rotation on stage is extremely slow so it takes some time before all of the boys have been up on stage because they are only 6 of them on stage at the same time.

Sounds like a nice evening. You guys didn't miss anything in Sunee. It was unbelievably quiet Thursday evening. Eros even closed for unknown reason. I went for the 23:30 show in X-boys. Shower scene with two boys for that show. Show good as usual but no 'special show', guess that is only in the 22:00-show.

I should go see the show again then. Maybe worth a try. Just to clarify I only commented about the show, not how the boys were looking. I've always thought BBB have plenty of handsome boys and that don't seem to have changed even after the show changed to a more tame version, and in the past I've offed several from there :-) Paying drinks 280+450(?), off fee 800 and tip 2000 in a bar with boys in jeans and shirts is however not for me, but whatever makes people happy and good that this bar can cater for some people that enjoy what is on offer :-)

Any cocks on display? Last time I saw the show a year or so ago the show was far from its old glory and rather pathetic imho since it was an imitation of the acts they used to performe before but keeping their underwear or jeans on. They actually had a 'big cock show' without showing the cocks, just showing the bulges in the underwear. And the blanket with the holes in that they used to put their cocks in, now only was used to pull up and down displaying underwear. Boring and not worth 280 baht in my opinion and the fully dressed boys on stage I've seen when I had a quick look inside there sometimes after made me not stay for show again since.But the show maybe was more entertaining now? The show in X-boys however is still good and worth a visit.

Two boys who used to work in Kawaii boys agogo have started a tiny hole-in-the-wall shop for sexy underwear. It is located near the entrance/exit of Boyztown at Second road. If you face Boyztown entrance at Second road you have a Familymart on your left side and a 7-Eleven on your right side. The shop is a little bit to the right side just where the 7-Eleven ends. Worth a visit.

I was just waiting for someone to point out the obvious... Why would anyone (except maybe for a poor myanmar boy coming to work illegally) stay in a dormitary in Pattaya where hotels and guesthouses are so cheap? Is it only for purposes like mentioned above, to see other men naked?

I think it will be interesting to see if their location is an advantage or disadvantage for them. They are more visible for many people walking by or going by bahtbus on Thappraya road than inside the complex. On the other hand people that are bar hopping in the complex main soi might miss that this bar exist or just dont bother. The bars in the complex that arent in the main soi dont seem to be doing as well as those who are, and this bar is even a little bit further away.

No grilled dog or duck. No serving of food at all what I know of. Only drinks served.

New boy beerbar in Jomtien, just outside Jomtien complex on the main road Thappraya road opposite of Tops daily. It was a ladybar before with the same name. A nice looking little bar. When I visited there were 5 twink boys on duty as hosts. Drink prices normal for a beerbar. 70-90 baht for a bottled beer. Gin & tonic 100 baht. They have a pooltable in the bar.

I've seen several people giving this bar bad reviews on the boards during the last year or so. I had not visited for about 4 months but had a drink there Sunday evening and since I was positively surprised I thought I might write here. At about 10:30 pm there were 12 gogoboys on stage or sitting around in white underwear. All of them fit and good looking imo. A lot of sixpack abs. Mostly cute gay twinks and a couple of more manly boys with what maybe is called swimmer bodys. I was surprised of the good quality. Drink price 200. Overstaffed with dressed waiters, I counted 8 and may have missed counting one or two. Definitely a bar worth visiting imho.

I rarely visit this bar anymore because much higher prices than other beerbars in Sunee. Last time I visited I was charged 150 baht for a vodkadrink and 150 for boydrink. Usual cost is 80 in the surrounding beerbars and boydrinks 100. This makes Double shot even more expensive than the two nearby agogos. They have good happy hour prices at 60 baht until 9 pm however.

They seem to have abandoned the gogo concept and yet again become a beer bar with fully dressed host boys.

That is indeed sad news and a hard blow for Sunee plaza. That was a nice bar and I thought it was doing ok even if business in most bars in Sunee have been slow lately.

Well i absolutely agree with you, and yes they still have imho.