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Being 50:50 I can look across both sides of the fence. I would say that the fees and tips for the boys are still more than advantageous compared to girls prices from the Walking Street/LK Metro agogs. There is considerable variation in the agogo prices of course, but bar-fines can often be in excess of 1k baht, and for some of the showgirls considerably more, but often cheaper after 1am. And whereas an average for agogo girls for ST tips might be 2k baht and for LT 3k baht, there are many that ask and get quite a bit more. Indeed 3k ST and 5k LT are being regularly asked by some of the more popular girls. As ever Beer Bar girls and freelances are usually significantly lower. In Soi 6, for example, the barfine (including use of room above) is 300 baht and the girl's tip 1k baht. Where the boy bars/agogos seem to 'win' at the moment is drink prices (especially boy drink prices) which seem somewhat higher than most of their girl equivalents. I feel more forgiving of higher drink prices at places like BBB and XBoys where at least you get a decent cock-show in compensation, but not for places like Toy Boys that charge the same without any real show.

Some really great advice here already, I am now 60, I am overweight /chubby, and I am still fighting them off with a stick when I go over there. I want their bodies, they want my baht. Get to Pattaya, take in the sights, smile a lot, buy a few drinks (but don't throw your money around), and the magic will happen for sure. One gentle word of caution, you sound like you could be emotionally vulnerable. It is all too easy to fall in love with your 'first' guy. These guys know how to make you feel good (not just sexually), but emotionally, so you need to make sure your head keeps a little control over your heart and your cock. I made that 'mistake' on my first trip to Pattaya, I was by no means a virgin, but I had separated from my partner of many years and had spent a lonely few years feeling both unloved and unlovable. Result was that I barfined the first dancer in the first agogo I went into on my first night in town and stayed with them for my whole holiday. I had a great time, but left Thailand in tears and in love - it didn't last of course. Look at it like a trip to Adult Disneyland where dreams and fantasies can be fulfilled, but its not really reality, reality is the plane ride home and working and saving for your next trip, for Pattaya is an addiction, and you will be back again! LOL I shall be there in the latter part of August, so if you need a wingman for a night - send me a PM.

Some of these boys have arses as tight as the proverbial duck's, even when they have assured you that they are gay; it makes you wonder just how often they do get fucked. I have had to work hard get inside some, and with some I have just given up and settled for BJs or HJs.

Great start to this TR thanks, I too am into the twinks so I have an even greater interest in your exploits. I have never been to Cupidol (yet) and I am clearly missing out. I was impressed by the range of twinks in Toy Boys in January.

And that is exactly what the 'Remain' campaigners would like you to believe; reality on the ground is very different. Bunches of 'sour grapes' are selling very well in London at the moment I believe.

My £ may now buy less baht, but I still hope to be there with enough cash in August to put a smile on the odd boys face (and mine!) LOL

Absolutely, although I am not sure that each is there for exactly the same thing. I would say instead that each has something that the other wants and therefore it works for both of them. Many of us fit the farang profile of course. I always find it odd how much fatter I look in pictures than I imagine myself! LOL

Some inspiring scenic pictures of a country I have yet to visit, thank-you!

There is no entrance fee as such, but the drinks are expensive at around 200 baht each, but you get the show for that as well. Helpful to have a small stash of 100 baht notes as well so as to be able to tip the boys if you want their attention.

The only thing I think we can be reasonable sure about is that this first post, by the OP is likely to be his last. If I had faced a barrage of criticism like that on my first post I would be off, never to return again let alone post again. Every forum is different with its own views and rules on what is acceptable and what is not. What I would observe is that the other Thailand forums that I belong to (and even moderate on one) such a post would have been considered quite acceptable - even encouraged. So he might have been forgiven for not realising that the ethos of this forum is clearly very different. I have (finally) found the code of conduct and even then it is not the easiest read, one great block of text. I also note the same code contains a 'no nudity of any form' clause, and yet the model thread, by far the most popular on this site, shows every form of nudity save for the penis itself, and often then, the penis is more or less visible though thin/wet pants. I am not complaining - its my favourite thread by far, I just observe that it could be argued that it does not comply with the forum rules either. I am pleased to have found this site, and I enjoy browsing and have benefited from the information that it contains, but am genuinely surprised at such harsh treatment at the first post of a 'newbie' member.

Thanks Bicincin a perfect mini-report. Never been to Sansuk yet and your report has left me wondering why not. Maybe get over there in August, But please tell me, given that I am not as young as I was (62 now) and not as slim as I was (215 lbs ) am I likely to attract the attention of the Thai boys there? and perhaps an even more naïve question - did money change hands with the boys?

Sorry for a newbie type question - but what makes the 'special show, special? (and what time is it?) I have never yet been to XBoys but I hope to be back in Pattaya at the end of next week so I will be in town on the 21st

I hope to be back for a short 10-day trip in a couple of weeks, so any more tips on what's hot and what's new would be appreciated LOL Have a great time

Happy New Year to you too.

Not only am I enjoying reading this, but I am finding it a very useful source of information on places to visit. Thank-you.

If the older guy in the OP accepts that it is his 'Good Heart' (and open wallet) that his boy loves then perhaps all is well. I am older, overweight and decidedly not a 'hansum man' My little cherub is primarily interested in my wallet, I know that. I am primarily interested in using and abusing his body, he knows that. As long as we can each accept that it may yet prove a mutually convenient 'match made in heaven' LOL

Shame, I thought 'wow' when I first looked at the picture. Bet they had to do some re-takes! LOL

My advice would be 'don't sweat the small stuff', and 'keep smiling at all times', I have seen guys arguing over 50-100 baht 'short change' or non receipt of change. I have seen guys get all worked up if a Thai pushes to the front in the queue at the 7/11. Etc. etc. etc. IMHO why spoil your day over the small stuff - just smile and move-on.

One of my oldest friends at home is gay and he has known he was gay since puberty - we often talk about our respective holidays - but he isn't the slightest bit interested in LBs - he likes men, and he likes his men to look like men, pure and simple. I can understand that. Me, well came at this from an entirely different direction. Pretty much totally straight for most of my life, discovered Pattaya, discovered ladyboys and then discovered that I didn't just find their femininity attractive, but I also enjoyed playing with their cocks as well. I then realised that I found some of the cute karaoke boys very attractive, and then finally 'made the jump to light-speed' last January with my two massage boys, Vit in particular. So I have extended from just girls, to girls and LBs and now girls, LBs and boys. Its just a different perspective that's all!

Think there was one day when I cum three times (and the third was just a dribble LOL). I usually take one Cialis tablet a day (don't ask me what size they are LOL - pretty tiny ones), but this time there were several days when I felt sufficiently unwell not to bother. I also take zinc tablets every day (at home as well) and those apparently help keep the sperm flowing! I would have to say that my boy experiences this trip were, on the whole, better than any with the girls or LBs - the details of those encounters would have been less interesting I can assure you. Don't think that I cum with poor little Lee once this holiday And of course with Chai I only cum one or maybe two times in all the encounters we had - not that was what the intention was - just loved having my cock stroked.. LOL

I don't think that there is any set format for TRs; on the other forum I post on there is a wide range - different formats, different styles and, of course, wildly different content. I write, fundamentally for my own future benefit, but of course I get a kick when others appreciate my efforts - who wouldn't. In my home and professional life I write extensively, but mostly pretty dry (and boring) reports or academic stuff - at least with my TRs I have the freedom to write in what I hope is an entertaining way - and actually I really enjoy the opportunity of doing so.

Yes I do have several sexual encounters a day, most days, when I am feeling well - although I certainly don't cum every time - far from it. Once a day maybe (but not even every day) and occasionally twice - but those are uncommonly good days! LOL Yes, the Soi 6 thing..... difficult to explain, but I will give it a go. Absolutely, Pattaya should be a playground where we can explore and enjoy our sexuality and, byenlarge it is just that. However, the bulk of establishments still cater for straight customers. Nowdays I have had no problem taking ladyboys anywhere in Soi 6 or Walking Street, or anywhere else in Pattaya - I do it without thinking now, although I recognise that there is still some hatred towards LBs in parts of the straight community. But those farang friends who know me along the bars of Soi 6 have no problem with me going with both girls and LBs, although some of the girls wont go with me because I go with LBs but not many. Now if I appeared in those same bars with J I am not sure how I would be received, but I accept that the problem may well be mostly in my own head? I am going back in January for 10 days and I will be staying at the Queen Victoria again, and I will hopefully be seeing J again (he is certainly very keen to do so at the moment) - so we will have to see what happens...... LOL

As my trips and trip reports have progressed over the last few years I have learned to take daily notes, otherwise as the days/weeks pass one encounter just blurs into another. I used to use my breakfasts down in the restaurant of the Queen Victoria to do that as I would often be eating breakfast alone. But this time some of my down-time/rests in my room afforded me that opportunity. Takes about 20-30 minutes each day - or two cups of coffee! When I return home it is a combination of my photos and those notes that enables me to 'write-up' my trip-reports, which, in turn, serve me as an 'aide-memoire' in the months to come (and writing up a TR also proves quite cathartic for me in dealing with the post-Pattaya-blues!). Of course a few encounters are just indelibly etched into the memory (at least for now) and keep me warm on cold English winter nights! LOL

I didn't have quite as many LB encounters this trip, but most were from Soi 6 (Nicky was from Soi 8 ). Boys are a rarity on Soi 6 I have to admit, but both boys that I saw in these bars appeared to be 'working', but neither were quite my 'cup of tea' and also, I regret to say, I am shy of letting the Soi 6 community know of my bisexual side. I am going to have to face that if I see J again in January (which we are planning to do), and I still don't know how I feel about that.

I budget on 10,000 baht a day, mostly I spend less than this (when I was ill it was far less than this) and very occasionally I spend more. But its my rule-of-thumb budget when I plan my holidays. If I just kept the one partner each day and didn't 'butterfly' around I could easily keep it to half that amount or less.