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Another question if I can please. Perhaps my most regular barfine over the last 7 years has been a bar girl and she confided in me a while back that she very quickly divides her customers or potential customers between 'Mr Lonely' and 'Mr Horny' and then reacts accordingly to them - in other words to be what they are looking for. (I never dared ask her what category she put me in LOL ) Did you feel the need to do the same; mold your personality and performance to act out the role they were looking for?

Given those sort of circumstances, how did you look upon your customers? - were they just that customers, or did regular customers ever become friends? - did you ever actually like any of them even if you did not find them physically attractive?

I guess that is what they call 'offering it to you on a plate'! LOL

Wow, what a great couple of days, and whole bag-full of memories to take away with you. I budget for about 10k baht a day; more than some and less than others, but it kinda get frittered on quantity rather than necessarily quality. Your report is giving me food for thought as I am now just 3 weeks away from my next holiday. The Jomtien complex you say ........

Ok, I have had a search for Sansuk Sauna and this appears the most informative thread so far. I like the sound of it, but I am still not quite sure what to expect and what the etiquette is once there. Is it some where I should bring a Long Time boy with me?, or will I find other 'interests' here. I am into twinks, preferably asian. Sorry if this all sounds a bit naive but I am still very new to the boy scene in Pattaya.

On other forums huge debate will rage over the earning potential of the girls in Pattaya and it is clear that the answer varies hugely. My main 'stamping ground' is Soi 6, with 60+ Short Time bars along its length; mostly girl bars and some ladyboy bars. So maybe 500 girls 'available' each day, and many of those would be lucky to get one or two Short Times a week, especially in Low Season. But there are also the 'stars'; not many, four or five on the entire street perhaps who can get multiple STs a day; five or six a day is not uncommon for them at 1k baht each customer plus drinks, tips, share of barfines etc. They are absolutely the minority, but they do exist. One little hottie 'Tuktik' from Route 69 Bar is currently the number one and the guys are jokingly talking about organising a ticketing system for her! LOL I readily accept that the 'market' for the boys, even the hot twinks, is not likely to be anywhere near that of the girls, but my point is that the earning of individual boys is also likely to be similarly diverse.

I can almost feel the love building.... We will all be there, linking arms down BoyzTown, clutching our lighted candles and murmuring the refrain of 'Kumbaya' as the BoyzBoyzBoyz do their nightly parade. LOL

Seems like a nice boy! LOL Yep a cutie for sure, and I enjoyed the link thanks.

Thank-you that was an inspiring post, one of the best I have read on this forum!

That so depends - even on an 'average'. If I am having a basic ST, then its all about passion and sexual urgency with sweaty, horny sex and it can be all washed-up and concluded within the hour. My sessions with a boy I know in Toy Boys can take even less time - we can both cum in about 20 minutes - but they can be a pretty exhausting 20 minutes - especially for me at my age. On the other hand if they are staying with me overnight, then it can be more relaxed, with lots of play and cuddling, with small breaks to pee (him), or get a breather (me) and can extend an hour or two before our balls empty. Same in the morning, gently wake-up, stroking, kissing and foreplay before a further round to build an appetite for breakfast.

Yes absolutely, I have a little 'friend' who works in a small massage shop behind Tukom. Seven or eight boys in the shop and somedays in low season they only have two or three customers in total all day - he often shows me the 'book' they are marked down on. On the days when he is one of the lucky ones, he contributes to the communal feed in the evening.

Not sure how many would want to admit to being money boys, but for an insight into the gay scene among younger Thai men/twinks its a real 'eye opener' (cock hardener). Most of the names are in Thai, but one 'follow' leads to another and soon you are following any number you want. Try typing 'Pattaya Boys' into the search to start with.

I have opened a Twitter account in the last few days (chasing Jason...LOL), hundreds of Thai boys have accounts. I have never seen so much filth outside of porn sites! More pictures and video clips of gorgeous Thai cocks and bums than I can shake my own cock at!

Kindness with benefits! LOL - actually a really useful thought for those times when my holiday diary starts to look a little over-crowded.

Being 50:50 I can look across both sides of the fence. I would say that the fees and tips for the boys are still more than advantageous compared to girls prices from the Walking Street/LK Metro agogs. There is considerable variation in the agogo prices of course, but bar-fines can often be in excess of 1k baht, and for some of the showgirls considerably more, but often cheaper after 1am. And whereas an average for agogo girls for ST tips might be 2k baht and for LT 3k baht, there are many that ask and get quite a bit more. Indeed 3k ST and 5k LT are being regularly asked by some of the more popular girls. As ever Beer Bar girls and freelances are usually significantly lower. In Soi 6, for example, the barfine (including use of room above) is 300 baht and the girl's tip 1k baht. Where the boy bars/agogos seem to 'win' at the moment is drink prices (especially boy drink prices) which seem somewhat higher than most of their girl equivalents. I feel more forgiving of higher drink prices at places like BBB and XBoys where at least you get a decent cock-show in compensation, but not for places like Toy Boys that charge the same without any real show.

Some really great advice here already, I am now 60, I am overweight /chubby, and I am still fighting them off with a stick when I go over there. I want their bodies, they want my baht. Get to Pattaya, take in the sights, smile a lot, buy a few drinks (but don't throw your money around), and the magic will happen for sure. One gentle word of caution, you sound like you could be emotionally vulnerable. It is all too easy to fall in love with your 'first' guy. These guys know how to make you feel good (not just sexually), but emotionally, so you need to make sure your head keeps a little control over your heart and your cock. I made that 'mistake' on my first trip to Pattaya, I was by no means a virgin, but I had separated from my partner of many years and had spent a lonely few years feeling both unloved and unlovable. Result was that I barfined the first dancer in the first agogo I went into on my first night in town and stayed with them for my whole holiday. I had a great time, but left Thailand in tears and in love - it didn't last of course. Look at it like a trip to Adult Disneyland where dreams and fantasies can be fulfilled, but its not really reality, reality is the plane ride home and working and saving for your next trip, for Pattaya is an addiction, and you will be back again! LOL I shall be there in the latter part of August, so if you need a wingman for a night - send me a PM.

Some of these boys have arses as tight as the proverbial duck's, even when they have assured you that they are gay; it makes you wonder just how often they do get fucked. I have had to work hard get inside some, and with some I have just given up and settled for BJs or HJs.

Great start to this TR thanks, I too am into the twinks so I have an even greater interest in your exploits. I have never been to Cupidol (yet) and I am clearly missing out. I was impressed by the range of twinks in Toy Boys in January.

And that is exactly what the 'Remain' campaigners would like you to believe; reality on the ground is very different. Bunches of 'sour grapes' are selling very well in London at the moment I believe.

My £ may now buy less baht, but I still hope to be there with enough cash in August to put a smile on the odd boys face (and mine!) LOL

Absolutely, although I am not sure that each is there for exactly the same thing. I would say instead that each has something that the other wants and therefore it works for both of them. Many of us fit the farang profile of course. I always find it odd how much fatter I look in pictures than I imagine myself! LOL

Some inspiring scenic pictures of a country I have yet to visit, thank-you!

There is no entrance fee as such, but the drinks are expensive at around 200 baht each, but you get the show for that as well. Helpful to have a small stash of 100 baht notes as well so as to be able to tip the boys if you want their attention.

The only thing I think we can be reasonable sure about is that this first post, by the OP is likely to be his last. If I had faced a barrage of criticism like that on my first post I would be off, never to return again let alone post again. Every forum is different with its own views and rules on what is acceptable and what is not. What I would observe is that the other Thailand forums that I belong to (and even moderate on one) such a post would have been considered quite acceptable - even encouraged. So he might have been forgiven for not realising that the ethos of this forum is clearly very different. I have (finally) found the code of conduct and even then it is not the easiest read, one great block of text. I also note the same code contains a 'no nudity of any form' clause, and yet the model thread, by far the most popular on this site, shows every form of nudity save for the penis itself, and often then, the penis is more or less visible though thin/wet pants. I am not complaining - its my favourite thread by far, I just observe that it could be argued that it does not comply with the forum rules either. I am pleased to have found this site, and I enjoy browsing and have benefited from the information that it contains, but am genuinely surprised at such harsh treatment at the first post of a 'newbie' member.

Thanks Bicincin a perfect mini-report. Never been to Sansuk yet and your report has left me wondering why not. Maybe get over there in August, But please tell me, given that I am not as young as I was (62 now) and not as slim as I was (215 lbs ) am I likely to attract the attention of the Thai boys there? and perhaps an even more naïve question - did money change hands with the boys?