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we did not hear much from Tawan recently You muscle devotees are a persistent lot. I'll give you that. I'm hoping for an analysis of the stars of Screwboys...

Vinapu, while I agree with you. The fact is, I have a hope to find someone I like enough to off for a few days and dine with me at the Poseidon. It's the romantic vibe, it will not, in any way, affect the tip. This is for me.

Good for you! Life gives you lemons make sweet lemonade.

Who knows, maybe Nicky has tipped mamasan to secure him more customers? Or gives him a cut of off fee and Fluke does not? This has been going on for years. Many times when I have boosted the tip the boy has asked me not to tell the bar - seems they no the going market rate as well and don't want to share "good performance" extra tips. It happens.

I think you missed the part about "alone time" I have taken my "dates" to the best restaurants in Bangkok - but, it's he and I - no more, never - ever.

And????

Why not set up a bar poll? In other words, list the name of bars and we note where we off from. Comparison of the two raw data files might provide a private way of answering the question. You would have to allow checking of "all that apply"

Yes, Please. I found it interesting, in the recent polls, to find that very few members actually off muscle boys. You would not have guessed that from the amount of space Moonlight and Jupiter take up and how little we hear of the other bars. It would be lovely to hear.

I feel blessed that I'm into cuddling and alone time.

As for ignorance part , since third party / mamasan / was involved , and you did not tip him you will never know who did not like you, Fluke or that mamasan. It's why I usually by-pass them although at Moonlight I did exactly the same -asked mamasan to bring him over but gave him 100 baht so he can focus on the task. It worked. Exactly, you have only one choice in a bar. Work with the Mamasan and tip or ignore and go directly, I would wager that request never got there

In my younger years, I wondered all over the area late at night with no issues at all. But, with the guy in the morning, I would have said no. If he was very affectionate I would have tipped him more but never from a demand.

So, Tokyo Boys is gone?

"whatever" indeed. It just does not seem the inviting type of bar that I can settle into and enjoy.

Can someone locate R bar for me? These stories are intriguing but I thought this was a very updated map.

carrying on like pork chops Other than using the etymology of this phrase to link you to Australia there is little to add. Having been mugged in Rio and Santo Domingo and been very careful in Mexico I find your Walking Street stories rather quaint. I avoid all drunks gay and straight.

What constitutes a Japanese bar?

Reminds me of choosing hotels in Santo Domingo. A colmado is a small local storefront grocery - small items. There are thousands of them at many, in the evening, Dominicans get drunk and have enormous speakers entertaining the street. Better choose your small, budget, gay-friendly hotel carefully!

I've always been an early bird as I like to get my off and go to bed or take him out. Over many years I noticed boys bringing in food an sharing long before true opening - I never had the impression that it was bought for them as It came in with various boys. Thinking about it I must look harmless as I walk in sit down and no one says a word until they open and ask me for a drink, although I have been invited to join the boys for dinner. Sometimes I send them for more.

Have to consider inconvenience of getting to final destination from Limo's end point, too. Thanks, but no thanks. This has always been the issue to me. About 30 hours from my door to my hotel. An expensive air flight with, at least, one connection and when I arrive what do I do? Well, I don't book something that takes me to a central place in the city, from which I now, exhausted, have to get to my hotel. It reminds me of my first trip to Pattaya. I was in Bangkok with a friend who arranged our trip down to the Ambiance, circa 1994 or thereabouts. He booked a shared van. honestly, we spent as much time driving around Bangkok picking up other passengers as we did on the road to Pattaya. This was pre-Sky Train days so the traffic was worse than young posters here can possibly imagine. This Trip the Poseidon is picking me up and I will doze!

This is exactly how I handle it. I don't grope in public. I might sneak a kiss to see how he handles it but nothing more and I'm very careful to check at how busy the bar is so he can earn if I decide to not off him. You see, I don't go to a bar to observe and drink I go to find a companion. I will not monopolize 6 lads with a bottle set up and leave others high and dry as I'm only offing one.

So, it's been years since I did not go directly to Pattaya, how much is a Taxi from Swampy to Tarntawan or that area?

There are people who understand that often fun needs to be oiled by money and like our friend paulsf says ' calculator is NOT most important travel accessory" Thanks, Vinapu and kudos to Paul. Yes, indeed. How many times do we read comments that come down to 500Bht, more or less, or even 1,000BHT? Now, just how much would I pay to cuddle with a cutie right now in my home - if you guessed more than that you are very much correct. Besides, although I have no way to calculate it the simple fact is that the bar/ off organization in Thailand is secure, I worry about freelancers and the apps and the street ( think back to the days of the steps outside Robinson Silom ) but how often do you ever hear that a bar boy has done ANYTHING, Anything? Just how much is security worth?

I switched to the Poseidon in Jomtien after years at the Ambiance - many years. I not only want to sleep but if I'm with someone I want to concentrate on him.

Yes, indeed. It's become a game of sarcastic verbal ping-pong no matter how many words you use to mask it.

lets hope so anyway - as I dont know WHAT we'll all do if even just some of the many pearls of ( alleged) wit and wisdom that are shared there between some of us are lost FOREVER never to be recovered !! Ohhh the very thought if that - God FORBID!!! lol On the contrary BKKguy, I read Nirish Guy's comment as a build up to this poignant and accurate point regarding what that site has become.