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I think one of the sexy things about the massage is wondering as what point will the masseur turn things up a gear. Until it happens you often don't see it, em, cumming, so to speak That's part of the fun. And incidentally, if you're passing by again, let me recommend Jo

Hope none of the guys you know were in that RTA in Chon Buri a few days ago. Looks like 25 dead in a collision between a bus and a car apparently after a driver fell asleep at the wheel.

I think that is the correct approach simply because allowing someone to take your photo is one thing, giving them permission to post on the internet, indicating that you work in the sex industry, is a different thing entirely.

To suggest that it is unfair to ask the boy which is better for him is ridiculous. Of course they can answer what is best for them and of course the question is asked discreetly rather than in front of the staffl. Buying a drink for the boy is discretionary, which is why they ask you if you want to buy a drink for the boy. Buying a drink to cover admission is not discretionary, which is why they just ask you what they want to drink.

If I invite i normally ask if a tip or drink is better for them. Always to be told they'd rather a tip.

You have to buy a drink for yourself as admission. You do not have to buy a drink for any of the guys.

Always better for the guy to slip him some money as a tip.

I'm sure I'd recognise Alek but don't know him by name. But not impressed by him trying to undo another guy's off nor him sending an angry email.

For me we are back to the idea of empathy. I would hate anyone to make a promise to me they don't intend to keep. Always good to treat others as you'd like to be treated.

Was there today and had a massage from a guy named Jo. Tall, swimmer's build and dark skin. Simply amazing. Couldn't recommend highly enough.

Hi Ryanasia I really enjoy your contributions on here. I know you cannot speak for everyone who works in the industry. But I often wonder if working guys ever distinguish between customers who make a genuine effort to be good to them, or is it a question of seeing such guys as naive? I won't share the background to the question!

Guys I think we all just need to be a little more thoughtful about what we do here. I am not sure that I buy into the argument about calling undue attention to individual bars. They are tolerated due to kickbacks. However I do think people need to be conscious of working guys privacy when they post online. For me it is very unfair to for a poster to black out their own face in a pic while not affording the same privacy to the other people in the picture. (The fact they block their own face indicates they are aware of the sensitivity). I really cannot see any other justification for doing this other than simply not caring. Simarly a long running and entertaining thread here never shows working boys who are hanging out with the poster. However it did provide two clear face pics of a working boy who they saw on a night out and identified him as such. Those pics were obviously taken unknown to the guy in question. Again, hiding some faces shows an awareness of the sensitivity connected with this kind of employment. So why protect some in photos and not others? This board is a great resource. It would be great if we could all just be a little more considerate of the working guys too.

I don't think anyone really owns the information so help us out by posting.

Glad this hasn't turned into the usual flare up. Just think it is always worth thinking a little of how the guys might think. Some might view them as a transaction, but they are people with feelings too.

Or course it is great to get such reports. However the issue is that even thought they guys knew their photo was being taken, did they know that it was going on the internet? If not, given that the poster hid his own identity, it is unfair that he has not afforded the guys the same dignity.

I think the idea is to think a little of the guys feelings. Clearly the original poster didn't want his own image out there so perhaps he should afford the guys the same dignity? Of course, if he told them he was going to post the pics online there is no issue.

Not a question of giving up, giving in or getting out. People are just suggesting in quite a gentle and fair way that you maybe need to consider these guys and their privacy. Nobody here is being unfair to you. Nothing wrong with the detail of the written report at all. People are just pointing out that while the guys knew you were taking their pics, they may not have expected that they would appear on a forum. And given that you blanked your own face out, clearly you have some understanding of why an individual may not want a photo like that distributed widely. Don't forget that even though the forum is members only simply right clicking and saving would allow any member take the photo from here and post it anywhere. Maybe you told them you were posting them online? If so of course there is no issue.

The offending threads were closed. The same people were responsible for the unpleasant behaviour. It might be well intentioned but I doubt that a thread appealing for calm is likely to have the same effect. Let it go.

So one further update on Hero. I have now been told separately by two former masseurs and one in another business that Hero would be reopening in the old location in November under the same owner as The Prince. I wonder do we need another separate thread on this?

It's pretty cruel to take delight in someone else's distress.

You tried to do something nice and it back-fired. Kind of you to try, but even more important for you to learn from it and move on. Such a pity we behave like this. I was stopped just before the taxi station at BKK airport the other night by a guy from Europe, clearly on something, telling me he'd had his passport etc stolen and could I help him. Years ago he might have had a chance. I also have my suspicion that your fall might have been part of the elaborate set-up. Either something was put there or he was deliberately loitering around a cracked pavement slab. Sad.

Really looking forward to the link between Dylan and gay lifestyle in Thailand. Maybe "Just Like a Woman" was written about an encounter with a ladyboy?

Amen!

Tawan fully operational last night with a lot of new talent too.

I was told last night by a former Hero masseur that they would be opening at the old premises next month.