Everything posted by thaiophilus
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First time Pattaya
Agreed. Except that "crime of any kind" includes dangerous driving, of course...
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Short Trip Report - August-22
Is 70 the threshold "senior" age? There doesn't seem to be a consensus in other parts of LOS (TiT, after all). For example, on MRT (quoting from memory) the wording is something like "persons over 65 are entitled to discounted travel; persons over 60 have the privilege ..." regardless of nationality. On BTS the discount is for Thai nationals only.
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First time Pattaya
I see. But that's only half the question. According to Immanuel Kant, is a closed bar still a bar? 😕
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First time Pattaya
So even by your reckoning that's at least four or five functioning bars, empty or not. I hope you'll agree that a bar with no customers is still a bar? How big is "many", and is a bar that's closed still a bar? 😵
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First time Pattaya
1. *Where* are they defined as Jomtien? Nice Boys and Winner are both in Sunee (ok, NB is technically just outside, but it's at the entrance) 4. Sunee Plaza contains many bars. Not all are shown on Google. Some are closed, permanently or otherwise, but not all.
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Bangkok Trip Report 2022: The wait is over. What was I waiting for?
Just for the record and as a matter of public interest, which bar was that, please? and which year? 😀
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Sawatdee?
I don't entirely agree 🙃. It has probably mutated (I tuned out after a hundred or so pages) but the earlier part of the thread did indeed contain a good deal of pro-Putin DARVO, though it is diluted by all the usual suspects trying to score points off one another.
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Sawatdee?
The propaganda is mostly confined to one (200 pages and rising) thread entitled "The Brink of War?" in the Everything Else forum.
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What else than boys...
You could take the "sprinter" train all the way to Ubon Ratchathani and make that your base for exploring eastern Isaan. Soutbound, take a train to Phetchaburi for a few days. There are temples and caves (surprise!) and a hilltop palace/observatory. The Mae Hong Son loop from Chiang Mai is worth doing, too. Public transport is probably not adequate so you will need wheels of some description (I did it in a hire car.)
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Air Fares to Thailand 2022
Going with an airline that has lots of flights also helps in case an aircraft is grounded for technical issues. If they only run a few flights a week they are unlikely to have a spare aircraft at the departure airport, nor the spare capacity to carry you on another flight. If they have several flights a day there's a better chance that they can find either replacement aircraft or seats on another flight.
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Restaurant Tips
I second the recommendations for Blue Elephant (the Bangkok one) Baan Chiang (on Th. Sri Wiang near BTS Surasak) is another restaurant similar to Mango Tree. I haven't been there for a while but it used to be pretty good.
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Thai Pass
The nearest I've been to having anything checked was when checking in, the airline staff noticed that the dates of my arrival and departure flights were more than 30 days apart but I had no visa. I explained that I was planning to visit a neighbouring country (using a different airline) so I would be making two visits of less than 30 days. They took my word without proof and that was the end of the matter.
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Nice boys advice
What you want and what they will do are not always the same thing. It's a race with only one winner. As soon as he has won, they can all go back to their phones 🙄
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Value for money
For boy bars there's nothing much outside of Bangkok and Pattaya, but there are of course the apps. For more touristy hotels/restaurants/things to do, you could try, in no particular order: (caveat: I don't know what's open or closed at present, so the following is based on my pre-2020 experience. Check before travelling.) Chiang Rai. Small town, a few things to see, plenty of restaurants. (Has one boy bar, in principle. Whether it has any boys to your taste is another matter ) Phetchaburi. Another small town. take the train from Thonburi to Kanchanaburi (River Kwai) and stay for a few days: it's a touristy town with plenty of restaurants and tours available. Sukhotai, if you like ruins. (Also Ayutthaya but that's only a day trip from Bangkok.) Khao Yai National Park (small national park but only a 3 hour bus journey from Bangkok), stay 2 nights, do "day" and "night" jungle tours. Khao Sok NP (much bigger; fly to Surat Thani then minibus to Khao Sok), stay a few nights and book some excursions via your hotel. there are lots of other national parks but the above are the most easily accessible.
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Nice boys advice
In Nice Boys you can sponsor a chuck-wow contest with 300B. Put the money in one of the pots they use for the check-bin, bang it on the table and (some of) the boys will race to be first to cum and take the prize money.
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Planning a trip next week
Bell and Roong Reuang are the same company. The main difference is that the Bell service (equally professional but about twice the price) takes you right to your hotel, which is better than RR if your destination is in central Pattaya rather than Jomtien. Being dropped somewhere on Sukhumvit (especially at night) can be a bit disconcerting if you haven't visited Pattaya before.
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Planning a trip next week
The Bell bus runs every 2 hours 0800-1800 and has minibus transfer between the Pattaya bus station and your hotel. TIcket sales are only by online pre-booking (or at their Pattaya office but not at the airport - they have no office there, just someone with a clipboard!)
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Side trips from bangkok
For another relaxing day excursion, how about Bang Krachao/Phra Padaeng. Taxi from Khlong Toei MRT to Wat Klong Toey Nok, or from Bang Na to Wat Bang Na Nok, from either place take the ferry across the river, hire a bicycle and spend a few hours in the jungle. Or stay overnight among the trees at the Bangkok Tree House - somewhere a bit different for a night out of the city (and somewhere to impress a friend if you take one 😉)
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Side trips from bangkok
... (except for the Mae Khlong line which departs from Wongwian Yai station, and the Kanchanaburi line from Thonburi station, of course.)
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Side trips from bangkok
(usual disclaimer; in "normal" times these were all straightforward but I don't know about the present, so check before travelling.) Khao Yai: From Bangkok it's the most accessible national park - 3 hours or so by bus, minibus or train to Pak Chong. Hotels provide guided jungle tours and transfers from the bus/train station. The usual deal is a 2-night stay: arrive afternoon, take afternoon/evening tour including millions of bats leaving their cave at dusk. The following day take an all-day tour. There are longer options including overnight camping. See for example Bobbys Jungle Tours.
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Get tied up
I too visited the museum not long after it opened and had a personal guided tour conducted by "Sucky" Kriengsak, a former colleague of "Cowboy" Edwards (yes, that Cowboy, as in "Soi Cowboy".) Most enjoyable.
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SCOOT out of Gatwick ?
... but without the Irish charm?
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Bangkok & Chiang Mai Advice Required
Yes. Like you I think I have a better understanding of the probabilities than when I first visited in the 1990s, but there is still a slight possibility of having an ill-chosen visitor. We all three (hotel, me, visitor) know perfectly well why the visitor is visiting, but since in Thai culture actually mentioning it would cause loss of face to all of us, that won't happen. SInce having the hotel check ID might prevent some unpleasantness (even if it's unlikely), and there is no downside, I think it's a good thing.
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Back in Bangkok
That wasn't there when I last went to Nonthaburi! Thanks for the tip. Not strictly "skytrain", that would be the BTS. Actually it's the new MRT Purple Line which runs to the Bang Sue district and connects with the underground Blue Line at Tao Poon - very close to the Joncharoen swimming pool someone mentioned recently!
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Back in Bangkok
Take the Chao Phraya Express (ordinary orange flag, not the tourist boat) from Sathorn (Saphan Taksin BTS) to the end of the line at Nonthaburi, enjoy the scenery on the way, lunch in a riverside restaurant, return. (caveat: I don't know if the tourist-oriented restaurants are currently open but it's a big non-touristy town so you won't starve.) Cost: 2x15B plus whatever you spend on lunch.