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Some premium boys ask 2500 for short time but anything above 4000 long time is boy’s own hopeful expectation and customer’s goodwill. 2000/3000 should still be the norm in most places. I think I know which forum you mean. It seems the young Chinese have a reputation for being generous so the boys (especially at Jupiter) ask them for higher tips. This is then passed on to other members as “fact”. Only exception I know of are Moonlight models who ask between 3000-6000 short time.

I really think this was circumstantial. I find farangs and Asians equally welcome as first time visitors, and only segregated into “preferred” and “non preferred” once the bar gets a sense of their spending. Like everyone else says, mamasan could see you were there to seriously engage an off, there was the expectation of business for the bar and a tip for boy and him. Perhaps they knew something about the group of farangs that you did not? Many well meaning but clueless holidaymakers come to the bars to drink and have fun, and take up boy’s time because they enjoy chatting to a real “Thai gogo boy” but leave without offing or tipping because they simply are not aware this is where the real money is made. I see this at Jupiter all the time. On mamasans, I have had both good and bad experiences. But some can become good companions once you cut through all the initial flattery and guff. One mamasan I’ve gotten to know well shares with me his career and family anxieties, and not in an effort to lobby for tips either. He doesn’t enjoy mamasan work in Bangkok, finds it boring most days, feels heart stricken when he and fellow mamasans have worked hard all night to chat up customers and they leave with no offs because they don’t like the boys or other reasons. I have offed him to join me for a drink in other bars just to liven up his quieter evenings. I was very touched when he tried to steer me to bars where he has an open bottle so I don’t pay for all the drinks. Now when he knows I’m in town, he hopefully texts “Tonight I can leave by 11.30!”

Really fantastic to have this report so the last days of Twilight are documented. Thank you and looking forward to next instalment.

I find Meji even more attractive than Jack Hope they release more photos soon

Thank you for sharing your memories. Like spoon, I am a relative (though enthusiastic) newbie since I’ve only partaken of the scene for less than a year. Remembering the intoxicating headiness of my first two visits, I can only imagine what it must have been like in the pre-internet years when the gogos were at their peak form. However this could be the start of some exciting times as the old bars reopen in new incarnations? Perhaps even revitalize scene by attracting new boys to work in spanking new premises?

I would because... He obviously made you very happy and was not greedy. I do not know the cost of the phone but I would contribute a reasonable amount and make it clear this is something you never do and prefer not to do, but are making an exception for him. If his birthday is any time soon it can be expressed as a one-off gift. Or surprise him at the end of the trip as a reward for good behavior. I know how desperately these young poor boys yearn for phones and he’s probably been scrimping for months and is short of a certain amount. Alternatively you can deny him the phone but take him shopping at H&M or elsewhere so it is clear gifts are possible but on your terms only.

Seconding the branch opposite Tawan.

It was mentioned he is indeed a real gogo boy at Jupiter...but way too popular for us mere mortals

Well he is quite a hunk! Perhaps that group of boys - who are good friends apparently - all come with a fair bit of attitude?

Really!! Multiple reasons to go back to Jupiter. I must tell my female friend, she will be so excited. She was 99% drunk when she met him and is still talking about him today.

First picture: the original “defectors” from Jupiter. The “stunner” is on the extreme left. I met him briefly many months ago when he came to Moonlight at closing time to visit his friends. I was told he worked in a massage but silly me forgot to ask exactly which shop. He looks 1000x better in person. I also mistook the third guy for current Moonlight grabber but they just look extremely similar. No idea where he is now. Second photo: another very handsome boy named Ole and also ex Jupiter I believe? But have never seen him in connection to Boys 66 and Moonlight.

If he is the boy I am thinking of, he is a real stunner with a beautiful smile. Like you say, impressive build but not overly muscled like Tam. But actually, I can think of two boys who match the above description of stunners who left Boys 66....I will post photos to see if we can identify them.

Just imagine how much better looking he will be in person then! But I am certain I have never seen him before. Perhaps I am getting old and my eyesight is missing out boys sitting in dark corners of the bar.

Yes I heard that is why Tam and York did not want to stay. They left Jupiter with their good friend another very popular boy, I think his name was Ole, all planning to join Boys 66 but Ole was sponsored by a wealthy customer to stop working gogo. By that calculation, the Moonlight model basic salary of 1K a day plus extra fees for appearing in additional acts, walking in the model parade, provides a far better income than Jupiter even before drinks, off fees and tips. Although in the latest job ad, the basic monthly seems to have been reduced from 30K to 25K for new model recruits. I’ve also been told that Moonlight is less strict on absences and sick leave. Would be interesting to know how Dream Boys the other ‘big’ bar stacks up.

Do you know his name? What a hottie. Can’t imagine how I’ve missed seeing him at Jupiter all this while...time to go back.

Never had an issue with ice in any Silom bar/gogo/Soi 4 or Twilight outlet, not even that horrible little bar at De Arni hotel. But I would draw the line at the Thaniya food stalls...at those I stick to beer.

I wonder what is Jupiter’s basic salary? More than other bars?

Don’t worry they’re all open again tomorrow. Go for a massage tonight?

I’d be interested to know where in Bangkok one might find an ‘enjoyable’ Western style salad. Most places fail to grasp the concept, even high end hotels and restaurants which are otherwise perfectly hygienic. Why not enjoy a plate of somtam or delicious stir fried morning glory, followed by some mango sticky rice for your daily fibre?

I confess I am still valiantly trying - and failing - to understand the intricacies of this election, and possible outcome scenarios. Thailand’s bogus election

Some of the gogo bars have announced closures tonight, others are ‘dry’ 24 hour alcohol ban starts tonight, another one next week

I hope so, we look forward to another trip report from you! On Suriwongse, my friend was at Moonlight last week and says lobby was lighted, and there was the usual night receptionist on duty.

Well I don’t think anyone got this one...was the resemblance only apparent to me? First pic: Lucky Second pic: Mr Sunny!!!!!

The implications of no-deal: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47470864

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