hank75

This could get ugly, very quickly!

Not to wade into this argument, but I’d like to point out that I’ve stayed in both price brackets and there is a difference, mainly to do with my own comfort, ease of mind and getting myself into a well deserved “holiday” mood. I didn’t take colmx’s post as judgmental and can fully see his perspective. But my preference has always been towards the nicer hotels. Why? I make a decent salary, really value my hard earned short visits to Bangkok (which give me a much needed mental and physical break) and don’t want to deal with the hassle of any hotel malfunctions which might put any of my 2 or 3 or 4 days out of kilter. These visits are usually sandwiched in between intense work periods and I NEED that little oasis of peace and enjoyment so as not to go stir crazy. If I was on a two or three week Bangkok trip where my only focus was boys, I would obviously opt for something more economical but I’ve simply never had the luxury of staying that long. I’ve often thought that I over spend on hotels. Also on food, on taking Grab instead of spending five minutes to negotiate a taxi meter, on drunkenly splashing out on drinks for myself and my boys. I admire those of you who have been prudent and are now enjoying a better retirement lifestyle for your savings. Am starting to consider how I can cut back in order to put more towards my retirement fund. But my point is- you will never understand others’ motivations nor where they penny pinch to give themselves some luxuries. So don’t shoot them down for it, please. For a first timer like BenG1000, I can absolutely see why he would want everything to go like clockwork and is willing to spend to make that happen. We already know nothing in Bangkok goes according to plan! So let the man have his comfort. To the main part of my post - boys and how they respond to expensive hotels. I have NEVER experienced a boy who sulked upon receiving an agreed upon tip (or a fair going rate) simply on the basis that I stay in a good hotel, and therefore should offer more. Boys know that tips are given based on service and chemistry. Instead I find they put their best foot forward if they believe I am a well-heeled customer (pun unintentional) as they hope for a second off, perhaps with a little extra the next time. The younger boys who are newer to the money boy business love taking selfies in a posh hotel - it boosts their status in the eyes of their mates. And they’re always delighted with the comfortable bed and roomy showers, it puts them in a good mood and sets the tone I find. Even helps me to persuade one or two to long time, with the temptation of trying an expensive hotel breakfast the following day. I find most of them posing for selfies next to the hot plates and juice station! It actually warms my heart that I can offer them this little pleasure (seeing a fancy hotel, being treated like a proper customer in the dining room) so they have racked up some experience for their future “careers”. At first shy and awkward on their initial visit, nothing delights me more than seeing a boy come back on my next trip and strut into breakfast like he owns the place. And, because I like older boys in general, these boys tend to be more experienced. They have been literally everywhere with wealthy Asian customers, even flown business class - a five star hotel means nothing to them. I was just told of a Moonlight model who was paid 100K to travel with a customer for 3 days. They gently put me off when I suggest ordering room service “room service no good, I bring you outside eat khao mun gai, my friend mother cooking”. So a 2 am jaunt for street food it is. Moral of my long ramble - if a boy is greedy, he will be greedy everywhere, hotel or no. Toss this one aside. If a boy is genuinely the lovely sort of boy you want to have with you, he will just try that much harder if he hopes to keep your business.

It’s the opposite actually. Babe started out as a dancer, even when still in school - and before he had a few minor enhancements which created the ridiculously photogenic mug we all know and love. His early social media videos show a very skilled mover, even at the young age of 15-16. He started lifting weights, got his body, grew into his looks and the rest is history. Along the way some of his “seniors” recruited him into bar work, initially just to be a headline model. Unfortunately they are hardcore money boys, so he’s starting to get accustomed to this way of life. From “no offs” to “women offs” and who knows.

Thanks for this Drim, I’ve seen most of the photos but not this “making of” video. Very sexy...but I also feel a little sad for Babe. Now he’s moved on to simulated gay sex in photo shoots....where does he go from here? Something tells me he’ll be a fully available money boy within 2 years. One of the older models told my friend just this past week: “Babe is too young, he doesn’t know how to say no to people”

I am confused about why it’s appearing this is “high season” even though this should be a quieter period?? Can any BKK residents clue me in? Similar reports from Moonlight.

The worst kind tells you the boy you are after is “no good” in hopes that you will off the boy they recommend....who is usually sharing the tip with them. True story.

The boys will go anywhere you bring them if you pay them the regular short time fee. You can also ask “how much to go drinking with me 2-3 hours” and they may agree to some discount. But keep in mind if you decide to bring them back to the hotel after, this fee has to be converted into a standard long time. They will probably be fine at Maggie Choo’s for a 30 minute window. But the drag show humor is very Western-centric and Thai boys won’t enjoy or understand it (I speak from experience!). They will be much happier in Soi 2 and 4.

Fully second Le Meridien on Surawong. If you can snag it at a good rate, definitely stay there. I find the price fluctuates greatly depending on low/high season and how early you book. Gay friendly, full five star, welcoming to joiners. Great buffet breakfast for a Western palate. Couldn’t ask for more. Ah Stranger Bar. Love that place, so camp, always good for a few laughs. I took a boy there and he was horrified “If I want see ladyboy I go my own bar!” When I have a few moments, I’ll PM some photos of the twinks from Moonlight/Jupiter so you can see if they’re your type.

Firstly welcome to the forum, delighted to have another member here especially with a Bangkok trip right on your horizon. Most of the places you mentioned are high end boutique hotels and they are usually very accommodating with overnight guests. In fact I know someone who conducted a sexy bedroom photo shoot at the W with several gogo boys! Ditto all major five star hotels. As poster above mentioned, gay friendly establishments may also be a good option. The Raya is popular here with forum members for being close to the action, as is Tarntawan. I am pretty confident Soi Twilight and Soi 4 will be there when you visit so no worries about that all! Fully agree you should check out Soi 2, GOD (beware many cute boys here are money boys and equally require payment) and I would add Fake Club to the list though this is best with company - at a pinch, I like to off one or two bar boys to be my wingmen rather than go solo. Or if you want a classier venue, Maggie Choo’s on Sunday night - lots of foreigners and nicely turned out Asian tourists. Jupiter and Moonlight have their fair share of attractive twinks too. I would recommend not neglecting them, and take in a show at one of the larger establishments too so you have basis for comparison between all the bars.

If my poor memory for faces isn’t serving me false, this is the current grabber for Moonlight. Former gogo boy from Boys66 (and Jupiter? Or am I incorrect?). He strikes me as thuggish, I would be afraid to off him!

Someone showed me Q’s FB - looks like he is home in Chonburi recovering nicely from his head wound. Certainly he is still taking selfies from every imaginable angle. There are some graphic photos of the wound site after it was stitched up and his head shaved. Poor lad. Also a photo of him lying unconscious on the bloodied ground, being tended by a paramedic. Looks like either a fight or a drunken fall. What I want to know is, which of his friends thought it was a good idea to photograph him as he lay in his own blood?? Millennials indeed!

Received a Line message from Moonlight boy saying last night (Thursday) was full house, many customers. Was rather surprised as I thought this was the lull period between Chinese New Year and Songkran however he says the bar is steadily becoming “more famous” as word spreads.

But that is easily what happens during high season, particularly the major holidays. Jupiter and Dream Boys will be full to bursting, you will be lucky to get a seat (a rickety high stool shunted behind some pillar) and zero boys available to you, unless you already have a game strategy or regulars to call upon. Low season weekends are the best, to me. I’d far rather risk being the only one in a bar occasionally but have lion’s share of boy choices in almost any venue I choose to wander into. And in the bigger bars, they will be anywhere between a third to two-thirds full - a comfortable ratio. With the exception of Jupiter which was full house even during August low season Friday and Saturday.

I feel like “Mamasans: The Good, The Bad and the Outright Despicable” could warrant a thread all to itself, except none of us can be bothered to start one. This view is not limited just us customers. A bar boy friend of mine loathes all mamasans, even those that I deemed to be okay from the bigger bars.

I am with vinapu on this one. The bar makes no money off the boy’s tip, so the mamasan’s job is to ensure drinks and off fees at least are racked up. Don’t forget this keeps a roof over boy’s head and a stage under his feet. Of course you are welcome to take issue with mamasans who refuse to take no for an answer or force unwanted boys on you. Also I quite like buying boy a drink which gives us at least a 15-20 minute window to chat at leisure and asssess each other. A courtship ritual which only a bar environment permits. He feels good knowing that money has been spent on him (serious customer) and regardless of the outcome, will receive his drink token. I feel good knowing his undivided attention is on me as his prospective “One” for the evening. Without this small social nicety, we may as well be haggling on a street corner.

We are excited for you too and look forward to receiving a report on your visit. I will be particularly appreciative for any tips/updates as my next short work trip will be directly after Songkran and I will have two nights off for my own entertainment. I believe the Songkran special show will only be held on Songkran days, but likely you will benefit from some of the new choreography being worked into even the regular acts. Try to visit Moonlight between Friday-Sunday if you are able as some boys may take a few days off here and there on weekdays in preparation for a busy Songkran, but the bar is that pushing for full attendance over weekends.

Sunny has stopped work in Moonlight. Reason unknown. All the best to him. The boys have been told to learn new routines for Songkran, which apparently will be a big extravaganza - their first proper Songkran since bar was still in its infancy last April. Moonlight boss is hoping to rake in the bucks in 2019. We can expect a full line up with extra models and more FB broadcasts. Other clubs like Fake have already started promoting their pre-Songkran and Songkran festivities.

Babe has done man-on-man photoshoots before but this is definitely the most risque. I saw a “making of” video on twitter which simulated penetration but it seems to have been taken down now. Very erotic. I wonder what his girlfriend thinks of all this, or if she is even aware. Apparently one or two of the other Moonlight models have girlfriends who do not realize their men are taking offs.

I believe Boom and Arm are even more popular by Mekhin, I have never seen an occasion where they have not been booked in advance. I think you may need a multi strategy hehe. Go early, if that fails, make friends with a mamasan, get an introduction to Arm, try and book him for the next night OR ask if you can book him in the day time. They do take day time bookings from what I was told, if they like the customer enough.

Thanks sglad. My trip has been delayed slightly but hoping to make the Pattaya visit around May/June now. Will report back when it takes place.

That sounds truly horrific. I hope you asked him to stop and pointed out he was hurting you??

I can confirm Babe does not have a good tolerance for alcohol, my friend has gotten him drunk before. But apparently now he’s much smarter at managing his alcohol (after multiple requests from customers to drink) so it might be harder to get him tipsy. Also I’ve heard that not only has his English improved, he’s also starting to pick up a little Chinese from all his Chinese customers.

For Bangkok, I would go in July. The hotel prices are much better, it is low season but not rainy season, and the gay scene is still alive and well...not dull in the slightest. Plus plenty of boys available. I made a short trip last December and would not repeat that, hordes of tourists everywhere, boys are getting Lined non stop by Asian customers on their annual visit so they inflate their asking prices. On the plus side though it feels very festive and you have a good chance of meeting cute fellow tourists on apps and in clubs.

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Don’t think it was his heart that was beating but another body part...”throbbing” might be more accurate