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Monik who owns 117 is planning a 20th anniversary party! here is what she posted on FB: Today 27/02/2018 Club 117 by monik turns 20!!! Celebration party will be in may 2018 God willing. He does. I thank all employees, artists, friends and collaborators in general for respect, love, professionalism and dedication. To friends customers, thank you so much for trust and respect. Together, they helped me create this simple, cheerful, cozy space that receives everyone with a mother's heart. Thank you all for believing in my dream of creating a gay club where respect to next, friendship, joy are present at every moment. Thank you for believing in me. After all, being the only woman in the world who owns a respectable gay club, makes me feel the love of being the mother of this dear son who today turns 20 Son that I had the privilege of choosing to have, along with father destiny

as some one who has made at least a 100 business trips to Hawaii the last 20 years and been there when the female hookers where all over Waikiki blvd i never found the police ever targeting gays! the 3 main gay bars were very busy and visible as were the guys(picked up a number of service men from all branches) Why would Honolulu start this now?

the paperwork signing was delayed until tomorrow so i think it will be next monday but i will post tomorrow when i find out! their FB page is Manhattan-Rios

i am back mid April in Belo Horizonte for a weekend then 8 days in Rio and a night in SP

not often! in my 17 years of going to Rio saunas there has been 4 sets of identical twins working. from about 2006 to 2011 there where 2 set working in Rio one set never worked in the same sauna at the same time! If one was at 117 the other would be at Pointe! the other set would both work at the same sauna on the same nights! they post 40 minutes but i think they only enforce it on busy nights like “free suite nights”! one of the benefits of being a regular is it isn’t enforced although i never stay longer then a hour and that is unusual.

It would be the largest in Rio in terms of suites! i think 117 would be the largest in terms of Sq. Ft.(Lagoa being the largest in Brazil i think)

Riobard your writing style reminds me a lot of your fellow Canadian “Bobbolino” you both are very knowleable about the Brazilian scene! Bottom line we need another sauna in Rio as we can see what can happen quickly and to reiterate, within 1-1/2 years Pointe will need to move or close as will Lagoa and i am betting the odds are favoring the owners closing rather then searching for a new venue! It is rather like NYC when the Gaeity lost their lease and there was no place they could go although it wasn’t just the rise in rents in the city but city codes at work to.

Bar Fama is only good on Friday and Saturday nights/mornings, i have not heard of anyone going during the week. Lagoa is a 1/2 hour to 45 mins from Bar Fama! many hotels by both the new sauna’s location is not being given out yet

:-) No MsGuy, your Brain is not more Addled! Every group in Rio, police, building inspectors, POLITICIANS, etc are all getting payoffs so when things get worse the Army is called in for a period of time until things simmer down! This is a continual cycle that has been going on here for decades! A good friend of mine is a Federal Attorney in Rio and he said to me “Brazil makes 1930’s Chicago/Capone look like Choir boys!”

would you like to place a friendly bet on that? the distance from Zona sul is meaningless! MM was further away and they did well for 9 years! Remember the boys and most of the customers do NOT come from Zona Sul!! that is your built in bias! many of the guys come from across the bay in Niteroi and customers from all areas of Rio!

would you like to place a friendly bet on that? the distance from Zona sul is meaningless! MM was further away and they did well for 9 years! Remember the boys and most of the customers do NOT come from Zona Sul!! that is your built in bias! many of the guys come from across the bay in Niteroi and customers from all areas of Rio!

“Riobard”. “In contrast, the other clubs are more segregated structures. I doubt there was much acceptance of the whorehouse on the ground level. How are the well-heeled property owners going to take to the realization it is now a M4M brothel? And the folks living on the level above it are going to tolerate the ear-splitting volume of stage shows bleeding into their evening relaxation? I think not. It may be the last straw. I hope Accyr did not draw a short one. “ -______________________________________ i think you are making a number of incorrect assumptions here! 1) It has been a straight sauna for over 10 years so i would think the issues re: noise have already been felt with or resolved! and this isn’t Junior and pointe where loud music is the way the owner enjoys it! Neither you or i can say what the residents think about a whorehouse on the main floor, but the fact they have lived with it for 10+ years, and there are 8 years remaining on the lease i would think it would be a non issue. and don’t forget that 117 walls adjoin a catholic school not exactly a segregated structure you allluded to re: the other saunas!

i think it is very safe to take the metro to and from Meo Mundo or Centro as long as a few obvious precautions are taken. 1) don’t look like a tourist! i have a friend who tucks his shirt in his pants and wears his loafers! NO wear jeans and a T-shirt and sneakers! blend in! 2)keep $50.R in your pocket if you get robbed that way you have something to give them! keep the rest of your money/credit card in your sock! 3)Walk with a purpose like you are late to meet the guy of your dreams! don’t pause and look befuddled as to where you are going even if you are! If you think someone is following you stop at one of the juice stands, restaurants or call a taxi! now saying all of the above i don’t do any of that(i am 6’4” it’s hard for me to blend in anywhere!)!and have never had a issue but i am usually with guys and seldom am alone at night! i never go to the atm at night anywhere! plan in advance what you need and go at noon to the atm!

you are going to have to check it out when you go and let us know what you think! i have found that since there is such a range of preferences among the toyboy group, that what nights and saunas one may prefer it doesn’t apply to someone else! some are tops looking for bttms, many are bttms looking for tops, or for muscle guys or twins or whatever, that just hit the road and check each of them out on different nights! i went Many nights to all 3 saunas! to find what i was looking for! Luckily usually all 3 had my “type”! :-)

yes i had mentioned it in another thread. 2 guys from Rio bought a building in São Paulo in a fairly nice neighborhood and are turning it into a gay/rentboy sauna. the building is going through renovation now.

the person(s) running it are very experienced in operating saunas, much more then I or i venture to guess anyone on this board! 2) just like any city rent cost is a important (and a impediment) to where a sauna is, why there is a decreasing number of gay bars in Manhattan, LA, etc. Copa rents are very high, and When pointe’s lease is up and Lagoa’s in SP in less then 2 years you can say goodbye to them! This sauna has a 8 year lease! as far as dangerous if you are worried take a cab door to door like i do when i go to bar fama in SP. not being close to Copa or Ipanema is not even a consideration! Remember we Tourists are a small single digit % of any Brazilian sauna’s customers! as far as supporting 3 saunas, the market has done that for the last 11years with Pointe, 117 and MM! now with MM essentially dead, this sauna will put it back to 3 in Rio! as far as the new sauna in São Paulo goes, the building has been bought and is going through renovation now and a tentative date for opening is not available yet but a good guess would be after JUNE 15th

1) the location is closer to where the boys live then Copacabana and it’s a very safe area!! you are practically in the entrance of the airport! 2)there are guys that go to 117 who won’t go to Pointe and guys who go to pointe that won’t go to Meo Mundo, etc. and guys that go to all 3! having been going to the saunas for 17 years now i have seen the number 1,2 and 3 change many times! i have been there when there were 2 saunas and as many as 6! you just can’t predict

nope those are details i never worry about. if i am in town i am going to the saunas, regardless if they have a promotion going on or not

Gotti that was actually started at Meo Mundo and then 117 started but on the nights they did it they had Blue lights strung up so it was more limited viewing after a few months they found out that it didn’t change much or add revenue! the boys that run around naked or with their towel in hand did it naked whether it was no towel night or not! !

it will be open 6 days a week(sundays closed)

Meo Mundo will continue but it will be operated by Acir’s business partner and i think more as a bar, drag queen shows and the rent boys still there on a small scale! Whether it will suceed to me is doubtful. Acir will operate the new sauna as a sole owner.

it varies from $50. to $1,000 depending on size, type and location. and decent is in the mind of the person, my decent you might think is crap and visa versa! I think you are overthinking this! find a type of apt you want 1 or 2 or 3 bedrooms :-) and a price you can afford in what ever area you want to be in!

Here is the new logo photos

if you read my report on it you will see Bar Fama doesn’t get going until after Midnight! so you can easily do both and have time for dinner in between! whether or not it is a busy night on the days you are there what difference does it make? it’s you only choice so go! it is better then sitting in your hotel room alone at a minimum you will have anywhere from 12 - 15 guys available even on the slowest night!

i have become friends with the owner over the last 6 years and i have my own set of keys that way no one has to meet me at the apt when i arrive, i just arrange to meet up some time during my stay to pay