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Brazil ignored the warnings. Now, while other countries are concerned about a second wave of coronavirus, it cannot overcome the first While strolling on Copacabana beach on June 13, residents of Rio de Janeiro expressed concern about Brazil's efforts to combat the coronavirus pandemic. June 16, 2020 at 3:00 pm PDT RIO DE JANEIRO - Weeks ago, when this seaside metropolis had registered less than 10,000 cases of the new coronavirus and there still seemed to be time, some of Brazil's most respected scientists made their last call. The country has reached a crucial moment. Cases skyrocketed. The hospital system was fluctuating in capacity. Thousands had already died. Support our journalism. Sign up today. So Carlos Machado, a senior scientist at the Oswaldo Cruz do Brasil Foundation, wanted the language to be strong. At the request of the Rio authorities, his team was putting together a list of recommendations. He needed to make it clear what would happen if they didn't immediately impose a complete block. "This would result," warned the team in the early May report, "in a human catastrophe of unimaginable proportions." As the coronavirus kills indigenous people in the Amazon, the government of Brazil disappears But the authorities never instituted a blockade. The number of cases and deaths has skyrocketed. People stopped isolating, choosing to pack the beach boardwalks on weekends. And the warning turned out to be just another exit ramp that Brazil refused to take to become the second most devastated country by coronavirus in the world. So far, the largest country in Latin America has registered more than 888,000 cases of coronavirus and almost 44,000 deaths, the second in both cases in the United States alone. But while other countries have gone through steep curves and are now focused on preparations for a possible second wave, Brazil cannot even overcome the first. A performance protest on June 15 in Brasilia honors Brazilians who died after contracting the new coronavirus. A performance protest on June 15 in Brasilia honors Brazilians who died after contracting the new coronavirus. (Adriano Machado / Reuters) What is happening here seems to be globally unique. Despite the increasing numbers, the authorities have not implemented widely successful measures in other parts of the world. There was no national blockade. No national testing campaign. No agreed plans. The expansion of health care was insufficient. Instead, the hardest-hit cities are opening their doors to shopping malls and churches, even when the country routinely publishes more than 30,000 new cases a day - five times more than Italy reported at the height of its outbreak. Inaction has taken the country on a path that scientists call the unknown. "We are doing something that no one else has done," said Pedro Hallal, an epidemiologist at the Federal University of Pelotas. "We are getting close to the peak of the curve and it looks like we are almost defying the virus. See Let's see how many people you can infect. We want to see how strong you are. 'So this is a poker game, and we're all in." The slums of Brazil, neglected by the government, organize their own fight against the coronavirus Brazil is on a path to record more than 4,000 deaths per day and surpass the United States in infections and deaths by the end of July, according to researchers at the University of Washington. But just as the pandemic is widening the similarities between the United States and Brazil - two countries the size of continents with extreme inequality and populist presidents - it is also revealing the chasm between them. Brazil does not have the largest economy in the world or one of the strongest health systems. It also lacks the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The Parque Taruma cemetery, in the city of Manaus, in the state of Amazonas. The Parque Taruma cemetery, in the city of Manaus, in the state of Amazonas. (Bruno Kelly / Reuters) Limited resources have always meant that Brazil had far less room for error - less room for political disagreements in the face of an outbreak - than its more developed peers. But despite the bets, the country never found unity. President Jair Bolsonaro, who continues to reject the disease and its victims, called for a policy of doing nothing. He attacked governors who defended restrictive measures as corrupt liars, invaded the crowd of supporters, defying the warnings of his advisers and threatened to have a big barbecue, despite public health recommendations. The limits of coronavirus testing in Brazil are hiding the true dimensions of the biggest outbreak in Latin America Bolsonaro has not trained health experts and scientists to lead a response. Instead, they were undermined and ignored, marginalized and driven out. He sacked his first health minister, Luiz Henrique Mandetta, whose sober briefings calmed anxious Brazilians after he and Mandetta faced the need for social distance. Then he pushed Mandetta's replacement, Nelson Teich, who failed to share his zeal for using chloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus. (The US Food and Drug Administration this week revoked its emergency authorization for the antimalarial drug and related hydroxychloroquine to be used to treat the coronavirus, saying it is unlikely to be effective, but carry "serious potential side effects." ) Bolsonaro replaced Teich with a military man who is not a doctor. President Jair Bolsonaro at a national flag-raising ceremony on June 9 in front of the Palácio da Alvorada, in Brasilia. President Jair Bolsonaro at a national flag-raising ceremony on June 9 in front of the Palácio da Alvorada, in Brasilia. (Adriano Machado / Reuters) The developing disaster stresses the limits of scientific persuasion in a country where faith in institutions has been falling for years. Federal authorities are not alone in refusing to follow the experts' guidelines. Much of the population, because of poverty or apathy, is living their lives largely as before - going to the beaches, attending parties and other gatherings, riding on crowded buses. "It was a failure," said Lígia Bahia, professor of public health at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro. "We did not have enough political strength to impose another way. Only scientists, we did not succeed. There is a feeling of deep sadness that this was not noticed." While other countries try to open up, Brazil cannot find a way to shut down Having decided to open up despite the scientific consensus that it shouldn't, the country is following a path that until now only Sweden has deliberately tried to navigate - but in a much less tactical and methodical way. In some pockets of the country - particularly in the north - a quarter of people have developed antibodies to the disease. If herd immunity occurs in any country, it can happen first in Brazil. An artist wears a mask that reads "Fora Bolsonaro" during the June 15 protest in Brasília. An artist wears a mask that reads "Fora Bolsonaro" during the June 15 protest in Brasília. (Adriano Machado / Reuters) "The question is, 'Where is this going?'" Said Theo Vos, a professor of health sciences at the University of Washington whose models are used by the White House. "It may be that in Brazil you can start reaching saturation, where so many people in the population are in contact with the virus that it starts to decrease". He paused. “But it comes at a huge price. It is the kind of situation that we advise governments to try to avoid. "We have no other example of where, at the moment, it looks darker." A city in the process of extinction is Boa Vista, in the underdeveloped and isolated Amazon state of Roraima. More than a quarter of its 277,000 residents have developed antibodies to the disease, according to Brazilian scientists who are conducting an ongoing study. The public system has stopped testing people. Promised field hospitals never materialized. The situation has become so serious that patients are being flown to Manaus, a global symbol of the damage that the virus can cause in the developing world. Bolsonaro, channeling Trump, rejects coronavirus measures - it's just a little cold But most of the country is far from achieving herd immunity, which occurs when between 60 and 70% of the population has been infected or exposed to a disease or vaccine and can now resist the pathogen. In early June, less than 3% of the population had anti-covid-19 antibodies. In Rio, where 5,000 people died, the rate was less than 8%. "No end in sight," said a big headline in the O Globo newspaper last week. When asked Machado, a scientist at the Oswaldo Cruz Foundation, how much could have been avoided if his warnings were heeded, he looked hurt. "From the point of view of public health, it is incomprehensible that more stringent measures have not been adopted," he said. "We could have prevented many of the deaths and cases and everything else that is happening in Rio de Janeiro." "It was a missed opportunity." Heloísa Traiano contributed to this report. Latin America had time to prepare for the coronavirus. I couldn't stop the inevitable. In the developing world, coronavirus is killing many more young people Brazil's densely packed favelas are preparing for the coronavirus: "This will kill a lot of people". Coronavirus: what you need to read The Washington Post is providing free coronavirus coverage, including: Updated 16 June 2020 Brazil ignored the warnings. Now, while other countries are concerned about a second wave of coronavirus, it cannot overcome the first. While strolling on Copacabana beach on June 13, residents of Rio de Janeiro expressed concern about Brazil's efforts to combat the coronavirus pandemic. (Reuters) In Terrence McCoy June 16, 2020 at 3:00 pm PDT RIO DE JANEIRO - Weeks ago, when this seaside metropolis had registered less than 10,000 cases of the new coronavirus and there still seemed to be time, some of Brazil's most respected scientists made their last call. The country has reached a crucial moment. Cases skyrocketed. The hospital system was fluctuating in capacity. Thousands had already died. Support our journalism. Sign up today. So Carlos Machado, a senior scientist at the Oswaldo Cruz do Brasil Foundation, wanted the language to be strong. At the request of the Rio authorities, his team was putting together a list of recommendations. He needed to make it clear what would happen if they didn't immediately impose a complete block. "This would result," warned the team in the early May report, "in a human catastrophe of unimaginable proportions." ADS Keep reading As the coronavirus kills indigenous people in the Amazon, the government of Brazil disappears But the authorities never instituted a blockade. The number of cases and deaths has skyrocketed. People stopped isolating, choosing to pack the beach boardwalks on weekends. And the warning turned out to be just another exit ramp that Brazil refused to take to become the second most devastated country by coronavirus in the world. So far, the largest country in Latin America has registered more than 888,000 cases of coronavirus and almost 44,000 deaths, the second in both cases in the United States alone. But while other countries have gone through steep curves and are now focused on preparations for a possible second wave, Brazil cannot even overcome the first. A performance protest on June 15 in Brasilia honors Brazilians who died after contracting the new coronavirus. A performance protest on June 15 in Brasilia honors Brazilians who died after contracting the new coronavirus. (Adriano Machado / Reuters) What is happening here seems to be globally unique. Despite the increasing numbers, the authorities have not implemented widely successful measures in other parts of the world. There was no national blockade. No national testing campaign. No agreed plans. The expansion of health care was insufficient. Instead, the hardest-hit cities are opening their doors to shopping malls and churches, even when the country routinely publishes more than 30,000 new cases a day - five times more than Italy reported at the height of its outbreak. ADS Inaction has taken the country on a path that scientists call the unknown. "We are doing something that no one else has done," said Pedro Hallal, an epidemiologist at the Federal University of Pelotas. "We are getting close to the peak of the curve and it looks like we are almost defying the virus. See Let's see how many people you can infect. We want to see how strong you are. 'So this is a poker game, and we're all in." The slums of Brazil, neglected by the government, organize their own fight against the coronavirus Brazil is on a path to record more than 4,000 deaths per day and surpass the United States in infections and deaths by the end of July, according to researchers at the University of Washington. But just as the pandemic is widening the similarities between the United States and Brazil - two countries the size of continents with extreme inequality and populist presidents - it is also revealing the chasm between them. Brazil does not have the largest economy in the world or one of the strongest health systems. It also lacks the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The Parque Taruma cemetery, in the city of Manaus, in the state of Amazonas. The Parque Taruma cemetery, in the city of Manaus, in the state of Amazonas. (Bruno Kelly / Reuters) Limited resources have always meant that Brazil had far less room for error - less room for political disagreements in the face of an outbreak - than its more developed peers. But despite the bets, the country never found unity. President Jair Bolsonaro, who continues to reject the disease and its victims, called for a policy of doing nothing. He attacked governors who defended restrictive measures as corrupt liars, invaded the crowd of supporters, defying the warnings of his advisers and threatened to have a big barbecue, despite public health recommendations. ADS The limits of coronavirus testing in Brazil are hiding the true dimensions of the biggest outbreak in Latin America Bolsonaro has not trained health experts and scientists to lead a response. Instead, they were undermined and ignored, marginalized and driven out. He sacked his first health minister, Luiz Henrique Mandetta, whose sober briefings calmed anxious Brazilians after he and Mandetta faced the need for social distance. Then he pushed Mandetta's replacement, Nelson Teich, who failed to share his zeal for using chloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus. (The US Food and Drug Administration this week revoked its emergency authorization for the antimalarial drug and related hydroxychloroquine to be used to treat the coronavirus, saying it is unlikely to be effective, but carry "serious potential side effects." ) Bolsonaro replaced Teich with a military man who is not a doctor. President Jair Bolsonaro at a national flag-raising ceremony on June 9 in front of the Palácio da Alvorada, in Brasilia. President Jair Bolsonaro at a national flag-raising ceremony on June 9 in front of the Palácio da Alvorada, in Brasilia. (Adriano Machado / Reuters) The developing disaster stresses the limits of scientific persuasion in a country where faith in institutions has been falling for years. Federal authorities are not alone in refusing to follow the experts' guidelines. Much of the population, because of poverty or apathy, is living their lives largely as before - going to the beaches, attending parties and other gatherings, riding on crowded buses. ADS "It was a failure," said Lígia Bahia, professor of public health at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro. "We did not have enough political strength to impose another way. Only scientists, we did not succeed. There is a feeling of deep sadness that this was not noticed." While other countries try to open up, Brazil cannot find a way to shut down Having decided to open up despite the scientific consensus that it shouldn't, the country is following a path that until now only Sweden has deliberately tried to navigate - but in a much less tactical and methodical way. In some pockets of the country - particularly in the north - a quarter of people have developed antibodies to the disease. If herd immunity occurs in any country, it can happen first in Brazil. An artist wears a mask that reads "Fora Bolsonaro" during the June 15 protest in Brasília. An artist wears a mask that reads "Fora Bolsonaro" during the June 15 protest in Brasília. (Adriano Machado / Reuters) "The question is, 'Where is this going?'" Said Theo Vos, a professor of health sciences at the University of Washington whose models are used by the White House. "It may be that in Brazil you can start reaching saturation, where so many people in the population are in contact with the virus that it starts to decrease". ADS He paused. “But it comes at a huge price. It is the kind of situation that we advise governments to try to avoid. "We have no other example of where, at the moment, it looks darker." A city in the process of extinction is Boa Vista, in the underdeveloped and isolated Amazon state of Roraima. More than a quarter of its 277,000 residents have developed antibodies to the disease, according to Brazilian scientists who are conducting an ongoing study. The public system has stopped testing people. Promised field hospitals never materialized. The situation has become so serious that patients are being flown to Manaus, a global symbol of the damage that the virus can cause in the developing world. ADS Bolsonaro, channeling Trump, rejects coronavirus measures - it's just a little cold But most of the country is far from achieving herd immunity, which occurs when between 60 and 70% of the population has been infected or exposed to a disease or vaccine and can now resist the pathogen. In early June, less than 3% of the population had anti-covid-19 antibodies. In Rio, where 5,000 people died, the rate was less than 8%. "No end in sight," said a big headline in the O Globo newspaper last week. When asked Machado, a scientist at the Oswaldo Cruz Foundation, how much could have been avoided if his warnings were heeded, he looked hurt. "From the point of view of public health, it is incomprehensible that more stringent measures have not been adopted," he said. "We could have prevented many of the deaths and cases and everything else that is happening in Rio de Janeiro." ADS "It was a missed opportunity." Heloísa Traiano contributed to this report. Latin America had time to prepare for the coronavirus. I couldn't stop the inevitable. In the developing world, coronavirus is killing many more young people Brazil's densely packed favelas are preparing for the coronavirus: "This will kill a lot of people". Coronavirus: what you need to read The Washington Post is providing free coronavirus coverage, including: Updated 16 June 2020

There hasn’t been cruising in Rio in theaters for a number of years so don’t think there will be any effect!, but I expect the saunas(the ones left standing)will be As busy if not busier then ever. There are going to be many more guys out of work looking to make cash based on the messages I have getting from Rio, Sao Paulo and Porto Alegre the past week!

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-brazil-beats-russia-20200523-vhpnlnysxvghbbmg7lddwfarbu-story.html

It all started a few weeks ago when photos of the army’s elite devision, La Legión, began recirculating on social media after it had been deployed to help manage the country’s coronavirus outbreak. As everyone was quarantined in their homes, they began re-sharing photos of the soldiers in their signature pastel green uniforms, tight-fitting pants, and distinctively low-cut shirts. The Spanish Army creating a lockdown looks gayer than any gay pride event I’ve ever attended.

According to a widely cited 2016 study by JP Morgan Chase, half of all small businesses have enough cash on hand to survive for only 27 days without new money coming in the door. The bar and restaurant industry tends to be particularly vulnerable. The average small service business has enough money on hand to survive just 19 days without any income. Brick-and-mortar businesses like restaurants tend to particularly struggle when it comes to saving up this kind of so-called buffer capital because they generally have to maintain high overhead costs. Rent, debt, fixtures, taxes, payroll, service contracts, utilities, insurance and more all add up to a monthly overhead budget that is very difficult to scale back during difficult times. While a business can take drastic steps, like laying off staff and physically turning off the lights, most of its bills still have to be paid. It is now estimated up to 70% of bars and over 50% of restaurants will not reopen! thoughts?

Junior is putting live shows on at 8:00pm Rio time. Here is the first minute before the show starts. Not my thing I am always in a suite when the drag queens and strippers are on stage but for those that like them at least there is something to watch. IMG_4534.MP4

Thanks but I really haven’t had to do that in a long time! :-) Wow...you have been getting unbelievably hot guys for $80.R?? I am impressed!

I you don’t use a translation app on your phone just do what we all did before smartphones, hold up your fingers and go one five zero ( um cinco zero or whatever you are offering.)

Google translate works great But you missed the point of the post! Don’t negotiate! Give the price you think it is worth and if they don’t accept say thanks and go to the next guy you are interested in! 9-1/2 times out of 10 he will stop you before you can say a word to the next guy! :-)

:-). I am not a god teacher I just try and use common sense and try to remember that the majority of sauna guys do not care how young you are / how good looking you are / because they are not gay!(i would guesstimate 60•% are straight)! But there are a lot of nice honest guys you just need to find them in the group! This happens to those of us who go to Brazil either multiple times a year or stay for extended times each year!(like solaceSoul /Badboy/ likeohmygod, etc.)

I think maybe you missed what I was saying...there is NO negotiating on my part, and actually have very seldom ever discussed price/money. When we are done I hand them the money and that’s the end of it! I know I am paying the going rate! And they know! Obviously being a familiar face and known to a lot of the guys gives me and several other posters here a advantage! But I have never in 19 years of going to Brazil negotiated price... no matter how bad I wanted him! Once you deviate it’s out, all the other guys will know you paid that guy more and then the game playing starts!

I agree with this 110%! I have been at the table with 3 or 4 guys when a perceived “difficult” * client comes in and the guys start the discussion about him! * difficult for the garoto can be any of the things SolaceSoul mentioned!

With respect I Totally disagree! All the guys know I am a American, that I live in SoCal, that I have a home in Mexico and not once have I been asked for higher rates or “American rates”! Now that maybe because I am known by a lot of the guys over the past 19 years and consistency plays a part! Actually I do not remember any asking what the rates are in the US! I think being consistent, not varying, makes for smooth business transactions. One thing everyone needs to remember is the Guys all talk about clients!! If they say they don’t they are lying! They talk about your preferences, what you enjoy most , what is the least they have to do if you are someone they don’t like personally, and What you will pay! For example, if I tell one guy I am coming to Rio on a certain date I guarantee within 72 hours I will get a minimum of a 1/2 dozen messages from different guys asking to meet up when I come to Rio. But you have to let them know in the beginning what you pay and if they want more, no hard feeling but good luck! I said this a number of times from 2001 - 2005, since then not one guy has discussed price with me! By word or reputation they know I am fair but not stupid and they respect theat! I have had drinks with the guys numerous times with them telling me hoe stupid this or that guy paid some amount way over what is the normal rate! I am not trying to argue with anyone else’s experiences just giving my 2 cents on what I have experienced / heard!’

I always pay the same price for the last several years! The guys in general are Not keeping tabs of various currencies and different exchange rates! I said this before “foreigners are not the majority of any saunas business, the guys prices stay in line with what their local customer’s can afford! The only time this has ever been a Issue is when a American or European or Canadian goes there to a sauna talking about how much more are you getting for dollars compared to the reale! Not something to be bragging about to sauna guys...IMHO

If I understand this video correctly Junior is going to have live sex shows at 8:00 pm at pointe on Wednesdays and ? , with no audience present and the will be available but not sure if it is free or charging for them but knowing Junior I am guessing there will be a charge! IMG_4285.MP4

No they didn’t

Thanks BB! Doing great but very bored! Best wishes and good health to everyone on the forum!

I spoke with junior tonight, he is in his hometown Ceara in northern Brazil near Fortaleza, where is is renovating a club he owns there! It looks fairly large from the video he sent! He told me he is hoping to open Pointe202 April 30th. I think that’s a little ambitious!! Maybe a lot! I personally think Brazil is looking mid to late summer but I don’t know anything more then anyone else(unlike some who are a expert on whatever topic comes up! i hope he is right because i was supposed to be in Rio 2 weeks ago and Mexico in 2 weeks!

Thanks!! My mistake!

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Is it possible? Yes anything is possible! Is it probable? NO! It not going to happen if you are going to Brazil for a week or two once a year! If you are not going back at a minimum every 3 months or so for a couple weeks or living there, then you are just another lonely guy looking for love in the wrong place! i understand as guys hit their 40’s and 50’s feeling the need to be loved and/or someone special in his life! but the chances of that happening where one person is 25 yrs + older and is the one with the income/career and the other is attractive in his 20’s sauna guy...everyone understands the “dance” especially the sauna guys! this was told to me by a Brazilian Sauna owner on my 2nd trip to Rio in early 2002 “remember, once a sauna boy always a sauna boy! It makes no difference if they worked there a month or a year you will always represent a $$ figure to them! I have found out he was so right! Guy in professional and semi-professional positions ate looking for a way out of Brazil and a American or European or Australian is their idea of fast tracking their situation! I know 3 Americans over the years who thought their situation with their guy was different! They were all wrong! The same thing is going on right now with Venezuelan guys and wealthier Mexicans! Again I know of severaljust in the city of Mérida where I have a home! Go to Brazil enjoy the sex fall in lust but not in love! Btw the above happened to me as well, I had to learn the hard way! Brazil is a great little place and I have a lot of friends there and you’ve may find love there it just won’t be in the sauna! Good luck!

1) Many of the guys online also work at either 202 on Wednesday or 117 on Tuesday which are the busiest nights at each sauna and yes you will find the same type if not the exact person at the saunas! 2) No, I probably have spent in excess of 500 nights in Brazilian saunas and never had a problem. A few guys over the years said they had something taken but with cameras in all the locker rooms and the traffic in them I don’t think that should be a concern. If it is, keep your wallet and phone etc with you in a drawstring bag! 3) Either. Again no problem but I use Uber almost exclusively because of cost and convenience 4) Yes it is done, years ago before smart phones and when Corujinhas the infamous hustler restaurant was open it was common for the Americans to meet up after going to the saunas. 5) He hasn’t been involved in that or been to Brazil for a number of years!

I just canceled my plans for the end of March and tentatively changing it to the first 12 days in May