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Update Tuesday 3 February 2026 Friday 30 January 2026 Went shopping in and around Uruguaiana M in Centro area. Took hours. It was quite hot and there was some rain too. Simply too sweaty, tired and full with bought items to play. Went to Lapa Friday night and enjoyed it as noted in a prior reply on this thread. Saturday 31 January 2026 Ipanema beach surf too rough and high so after 30 min 1337-1407 or so hours walk to Arpoador Ipanema side by rocks and kiddie area and hang for 30 min after getting pics with Tom Jobim statue – which is now painted. Minnows in the beach water rocks area, lots of them (Ipanema side of Arpoador rocks). Then walked to near Fairmont in Copa. Water was very calm, for another 20 min or so in the water. Saturday night I went to The Home just north of centro. Look for their Instagram, not Facebook page. 60 RS cash for entry, paid when I left The Home, 0035-0230 ish hours. My ears could not take it anymore, too loud and no quiet spaces. Never needed to see my ID, used fingerprint at entry and I guess they found me from 2024. They give you like a hotel key card for drinks etc and asked only my name when I left. No real ghetto searches in or out this time and no phone check either. Only a few entered when I did No one left when I left – likely I left way too early, but as I said, my ears could not take the loudness anymore and I did not like the 2nd DJ. The street was not as busy as 13 months or so ago. Met no one but so many gym bunny hot boys !! 1st DJ until 1am was good. 2nd was not. If there was a 0300 show, I missed it. Busy at 0100 and pretty packed dance floor at 0230. Never saw the night bus SN415 bus and another never bothered to stop for me around 0245 hours. By 0305 I was looking for a 100- Uber, but they had 70- taxi. Found the let out of a technical practice for Carnaval for Portella at Sambadromo. Very busy at 0320 hrs. Also very busy was what I think it the downtown bus depot area just E of Sambadromo and W of Saara / Vargas M stop. If I had taken the bus, I would have missed all of this. Maybe try to see another Carnaval crew practice another night if I can find any information. Back at BnB and in bed by 0400 hrs. Did not sleep well as I was getting eaten alive at the BnB – invisible mosquitoes, hungry ones too. Sunday 1 February 2026 Having no luck on the hook up apps this trip. Several conversations that went nowhere. Ipanema G Osorio Hippie market. There was another market 1 big block due west at same time, LOL Bandas at G osorio today as it preps for Carnaval. Wave action to great at gay beach again. 1230 ish to 1500 hours ish including Arpoador area which was kiddie beach and calmer. Did not see as many minnows today. Back at BnB by 1600 or so and got cleaned up, then super late 1715 ish start for Bangu. But ended up on Metro as fares were 150 RS +. Very high, but was some light rain by this point around Rio. Got off M at Coelho Neto. Ate some fries before uUber arrived. Another expensive ride due to rain. Maybe 65 RS cost for Uber to Boate Casa Grande arriving around 1835 and another Uber terrible driver. No idea where he was going and asked me for directions.60 RS entry to club w locker - went up 10-15 from last week and NO towel. Interesting that despite showing I was going to pay cash and the guy at the entry area had lots of cash, he kept asking me if I wanted to use Pix. Seems also true for food vendors on the street too. Had fun with a GP from a week ago. After he kept asking, I gave him my Whatsapp number but never heard back. Wants to sleep with me LOL Pouring rain and heavy roof leaks during and after playtime. Then tried Grindr ing and chatted with some guys so missed some lower high price Ubers around 2030. Then maybe a guy blocked me LOL Could not get an Uber until 2130 at 100- ish for a 25+ trip to C Neto M LOL. Uber to Ipanema was 150-200+ likely due to heavy rain. No rain upon return. Drag Queen for bingo for maybe just after I left Bangu brothel and they still had many folks there despite the weather. Lots of folks in subway with some glitter, especially guys. Even at the beach earlier in the day, saw many folks preparing and costumed up a bit for Carnaval. I think many of the lightly glittered guys with fans were "family". Mostly twinks, but some hot muscle guys too. Monday 2 February 2026 Overall, a quieter day. 28 RS to enter porn theatre near to Sexy Rose in Cinelandia. Did not stay long, about 1400-1430, but 2 awesome BJs and some ass. Thankfully it was dark as most guys there could have been 70+ yo. Ate lunch nearby and went to Sexy Rose which had 2 very hot guys that I could not even get close to. Still had fun until 1730. I was hungry and tired, so went back to new BnB in Copa. On a high floor and no bugs seen. Tuesday 3 February 2026 Very late start today. Too many things to catch up on. Will plan on the beach for a while and the 117 to follow. Hard to sort out itching from bug bites from the most mild sunburn in a few spots. Taking bilastine for the itching. Some quick notes: unlike Commonwealth countries, folks here do not seem to fully understand queuing. Perhaps we are the exceptions, LOL. At the supermarket, there was a young couple in front of me in the Preferencia line. No clue to unloading their cart of maybe 8 items while the person in front of them checked out. As so often seems to happen in Rio, no clue as to how they will pay. (At another supermarket, the checkout guy seemed upset with me when an older lady tried to split off some items due to lack of dinheiros and then had to wait for a supervisor to void items. Then the whole thing went south and seemingly nothing worked at that cashier, then that cashier got upset with me, for getting upset about keeping folks waiting. Then I was told I would have to wait at the back of a very long queue to follow. Lessons in how not to do business on all sides.) To make matters even better, LOL, the checkout guy refused to enter my CPF and insisted on manually typing each barcode number for all items I was buying. At least I got my discounts. Again, sheer misery for nothing accomplished and a shining example of how not to do business. Meds: Pharmacy prices for various (seemingly always generic) meds do vary quite a bit. Boxes look quite similar too. So, you need to shop / ask around before buying. I have a CPF and some places don’t even need or want it, while others require it for a discount. I was looking for aspirin, the 81 mg ones. 500 mg tablets are a bit expensive and have been told it is a major problem for the NHS in the UK due to lack of suppliers. They do not have 81 mg. They do have aspirina prevent 100 mg aspirins, 30 for about 19 RS. Tadalafil 5 mg are 30 for about 10 RS. Antibiotics seem to require a BR receita or Rx from a BR doctor. PREP meds are available, but I think only at public or private health clinics, not street pharmacies. In general, Rx prices are quite low vs US, Canada or Europe, but they might not accept your non BR Rx script or empty vial, even with recent date. To get some idea of prices, which might be less in person, you can search for the various pharmacy companies and use their website tools like for https://www.drogaraia.com.br.

Has anyone here been to Angra dos Reis or Ilha Grande? Brazilian folks I have met like them both, but not sure if I will go this trip as Carnaval events have already started and cold snap is mostly over now in N America.

Saturday 31 January 2026 Some quick questions for the group. Went near Chupps in Lapa last night around 0100 hours. Seemed like it had 2 jacketed guys in front of the door, of the type you find like at the entrance to a nice restaurant or bar. Did not see anyone going in or out and no one was hanging out on the street. Was this the Chupps that is a sex club? Has anyone been there recently? Should I consider going tonight, Saturday night or going to Taurus like last week or The Home for dancing? Jackie's Bar Club on Mem de Sa is still there but seemed utterly devoid of anything going on around 0000-0100 hours. Perhaps too early. But the nearby gay bars and clubs from 13 months ago looked as if they closed. I went to gay bar with busy street life at rua do Rezende just off and beyond (away from Arcos de Lapa) r Mem de Sa around 0030 hours. Nothing going on inside. But almost next door there was another bar or club with a neon sign but seemingly nothing to see. However, there was a sign for an event night, but could not tell if the event was for Friday night or some other time. Possibly in association with the Scruff pick up app. Anyone have any information about these places? As for other things, I took the bus back from Lapa to Ipanema, only 5 R$. Quite safe and very much an eye opener into Rio nightlife. Lots going on in Gloria, Lago do Machado seemed dead, and the Pink Flamingo (which might be in the same location as the old Le Boy) seemed to be busy in its alley area around 0215 hours.

Update, Friday 30 January 26 am in Rio. Monday: sunny and partly cloudy at the beach. Got a bit red. Just beware that it takes time to “develop” and if you even seem the slightest bit pink or red at the beach, you are likely to see quite a burn by the next day. So limit your time in the sun, even with sunblock or if it is cloudy. Latest day for me at Sexy Rose from 1815-2015 hours, but had fun. So skipped Meio Mundo, etc., due to the time. Tuesday: had a bit of fun at 117. Stayed from about 1745-2030 hours. Half hour or so wait for rooms around 2045 hours. Bit of an issue for a horny top, LOL Was with Bruno from Sao Paulo who was visiting Rio for a few days and I guess needed R$ to help pay the cost of his trip. My skin was fine with being massaged despite a bit of pinkness from the sun on Monday. After the show, many folks left and several of us left late deciding that among the few GPs left any desperation cum on their part might not be worth it to us. Wednesday: AC had to be replaced at BNB. So, a delayed but lovely trip to Niteroi and the MAC museum, the flying saucer. The restaurant there was excellent. Take the M to Carioca, then walk 5-10 minutes to the ferry terminal. In Niteroi you can walk 30 minutes to the museum or take a bus to near the museum. Lots of shopping in Niteroi. Prices tend to be much better than in Rio, but not always. Crossing back to the Niteroi ferry terminal from centro around 1715 hours a saw a young thin guy and we made eye contact as I crossed the street for the ferry - a missed opportunity, maybe, lol. Ended up late at 202 from 1900-2130 and left during a good but delayed show – I was just too tired and hungry. Some nice-looking GPs, but mostly tops. A few GPs were “distracted” on their phones. Chatted with a forum member at 202. Thursday: Slow day at Sexy Rose from 1535-1835 hours. Quite dead before 1730 !! But I did do the hottest guy there, pays to advertise a boner sometimes. Another super hot guy too came a bit later on. They were both as good looking as the hottest GPs at 117 or 202. The guy I did was a not a tight bottom, LOL The other hottie seemed to like younger muscle twinky types. Either guy would do well anyplace, so just our luck at S R. Friday: after multiple sunny days, it is cloudy this am. Have to change places today. There was a comment about the lack of nightlife in Ipanema, especially vs many years ago. So true. But there are many nice, though tiny places to have a drink scattered about. Seems like Lapa had by far the most nightlife - like clubs, packed bars, and such, but the gay places on Mem de Sa seem sad vs the straight hook up clubs for young folks. Also, the gay places in Lapa on Friday or Saturday night a year or 2 ago were pretty dead through midnight and many of us on the forum here are not party animals around 0200-0400 hours. Copa has some nightlife. The fancy dress up and pick up bars in Leblon are also very nice, but mostly straight. I described my no go at Pink Flamingo in a prior post.

Update, Monday 26 January 26 at noon in Rio. Friday I went out with a forum member’s non GP friend. Not much in the way of gay nightlife in Ipanema anymore. The security guy at Pink Flamingo was incompetent in checking my small bag and insisted I remove everything and, of course, there was no place to put anything. I gave up and went for drinks elsewhere at 2300 hours or so. Belmonte had a line to get in and we did not want to stand in the drizzle outside under an umbrella table. Went 1 block away. Then to La Cueva, as he likes older guys. I did not even know they had a small darkroom until I was about to leave at 0230 hours or so. No free drinks with the now 60 RS cover anymore. But drink prices seemed reasonable. The disco music and videos were fine. Overall, just not my cup of tea, despite maybe 4 hot younger guys. The light clouds came out Saturday and Sunday even had some am sun, despite predictions for rain, so I went to gay beach. Look for the purple umbrellas across from Boteca Belmonte, at the of rua Farme de Amoedo, about 2 blocks east of Posto 9. No gay rainbow flags unlike in the past few years. Ended up at Taurus Cruise / sex club rua da Lapa 8, from 0030 ish until about 0230 hours. Took the M to Gloria and walked in the light drizzle. Lots of nightlife. The 3 interactive guys started around 0100 and mostly favored heavy bears, but I had fun with 1 or 2 of them as well as did many others of all types. Good mixed crowd, but not as many folks as in late 2024. Perhaps I should have arrived at 2300 hours or so. Who knows….. Because I stayed so late, I skipped The Home. It was also raining when I left, so I just wanted to head back to the bnb. Strangely, prices were reasonable, maybe lots of folks did not go out or left earlier. Sunday was busy. Went to the Hippie Fair and the gay beach. Made a mistake at the beach in letting some older guys from Delaware watch my stuff. I was alone and usually ask a small of folks if its ok to leave my few things while I take a dip. Was not getting great vibes and heard these folks speaking English. Usually, I ask folks speaking PT or SP, as I can meet new folks and experience the other cultures while hanging out. Well, I think we know folks who are loud mouthed, verbally pushy, and of course, all conversations must be about them. One of guys even asked me if he was being more than a bit too much. I tried changing the conversation and speaking to one of the others. Did not go well. His partner was talking to someone from Sao Paulo and asked him if he was a kept boy (of about 35 yo). Two of the 4 were Ugly Americans, to say the least (the other 2 quiet folks were neighbors in the US. I felt so bad for them.). And yes, it happens with all nationalities, types, etc. Well, I should have left earlier. – Please, no hate replies, just reporting the facts as I understand them – Skipped Gloria as it was getting late for going to Bangu sauna, Boite Casa Nova. Drizzling just a bit in Ipanema. 4 UBER drivers canceled and I arrived 30 minutes after promised time in part due to this plus heavy traffic out of Ipa near Lagoa. LOL. FWIW, UBER has been of bad quality and reliability this entire trip. Always late on pick ups or drop offs, poorly maintained cars or simply clueless drivers have occurred on every trip. On the return trip, the UBER parked on the other side of the street from the sauna and would not pull over. The road was like a busy highway at the time, and I guess he wanted me to be run over. LOL You pass many many moderate sized fundamentalist churches with services going on Sunday night in Bangu and when on the 101 detour noted below. Coming back from Bangu the BR 101 was essentially closed with a huge backup heading west towards Bangu from Coelho Neto Metro. Reminded me of accidents on the German Autobahn. Even going east from Bangu there was at least a several km delay / back up. Had 4 GPs at Bangu. One did not deliver, LOL. 2 tried to change the deal in the room during sex and when a 3rd started, I quickly put an end to it in my poor PT and told him to keep to our agreement or I was leaving. Two of the 4 ending quite well, 3rd so so, and the 4th, well I should have not paid, though I did. LOL. Entry was 45 or 50, and included a locker this trip, sodas were 10- and boys were 100, although like I stated, some wanted up to 200 in the room during sex. I know the GPs talk but I never agreed to an up price in the room. So a mixed night in Bangu. Took almost 2 hours to get from check out at Bangu back to my Ipanema Bnb. I also felt very very tired returning, but did not see anyone dope my drink. The M to Coelho Neto is quite safe. You can uber or cab to bangu from there. On my way back, huge crowds entered after the football match at Maracana between Flumiense and Flamengo. Despite some drenching rain during the delayed matched, all seemed dry ! A couple of hook up app meet ups never happened over the weekend, Again, LOL. Did not have any further contact from forum folks. Its truly sunny and not too hot at noon on Monday, so off to the beach !!!

Friday afternoon in Rio and it has been raining all day, sometimes pouring, but mostly enough to just stay in so far today. Wednesday: went to Sexy Rose from 1500-1720 ish hours. It was busy enough. Couple of very hot guys that are well beyond our league, so at least the eye candy and grab some **** in the darkroom was nice. Then at 202, again I was tired post sexy rose. There were about 5 guys of interest as I entered at 1815 hours. Did a quick tour of the place and never saw 4 of them again! The 5th had a punter or 2. The TV jerk off room by the lockers is now closed. I think the 3rd or 4th floor bar and smoking areas are also closed now. The new smoking area is on the 2nd floor by the hot sauna and urinals. For non-smokers, the smoke is unbearable. Some play in steam room. Hot tub on the 2nd floor is gone now and is a hang out room. Stayed until 2030 hours ish and left before 9-930 pm show. It was busy, but I was simply too hungry for food vs boys. Entry is 80 R$. Did not inquire re room cost after 30 minutes or on non-free cabin nights. I will word the following carefully, as I do not know if any of these folks are forum members. A ? Texas guy spends ½ yr in Rio. Was quite nice to me and found a very hot GP for play. If he is a member, please say hello via PM. Tall blond punter I saw from Bangu over a year ago brought his “special fiend” with him. I trust he and his table guests all had a nice time out. I think he is a member. And then, oh dear, please, I am not trying to be evil. There were 3 guys together that are quite old. I think they came into being shortly after the Big Bang when our universe started. Might have mentored Noah in ship design. I was not certain if I had known one of them before. I think an actor from Florida who was spending maybe a week per month or 2 in Rio and he likely had some plastic surgery back then and looked appropriate for age. I think he had more surgery, perhaps a month or 2 ago, and if the same person, oh dear, not a great result. Another poor soul looked like had died 3 weeks ago, formaldehyde had been placed in his veins and yet he keeps walking. Not sure if he was pre or post a botched procedure. The 3rd guy was also older and facial features seemed quite reasonable, but the jet-black Beatles mop top hair was not working. Another punter, not with the 3 bad plastic surgery guys also had a bad jet-black toupee. Sometimes, I think it best to accept what you have or just mildly embellish things. Sorry forum members, but these 4 folks looked like they were from a Benny Hill / horror show skit gone awry. No super-hot guy came in at 2000 hours, unlike a year or 2 ago. I went food shopping as the supermarkets were getting ready to close. FWIW Mundial, which often has by far the best prices, is huge and perhaps 4 blocks down on S campos from 202. But the lines can be unbearable. I went to an Extra that is hidden inside a mall and large residential and office block across and down from 202 by a block or so. Had a huge very nice but late dinner at my bnb. Yours truly ate far too much (I was very hungry) and ate way too late before going directly to bed. Woke up in the middle of the night with the worst heartburn ever and generally felt simply awful. Things got worse and by 0900 I was on my way to Samaritan Hospital not far from Botofogo M. Private place and my insurance included them as a provider. In brief, I got worked up for a heart attack, which I did not have. After 5 hours or so of testing, they kindly pointed out that one should not eat a giant meal right before sleeping. Offered some anti reflux and similar meds. Some are not available in all countries such as lufta gastro and domperidone. I found their Receiving staff to be very professional, and I think I would be ok going there again if needed. Recommended to forum members. Having been poked and prodded, I did not feel like playing Thursday night and I cancelled a date too. LOL Friday through 4pm has been too rainy to do much of anything as noted above. So, hoping for a nice early smaller dinner nearby if the rain continues.

Gee....are we talking magic fairy dust? My experiences are the opposite of your friend looking for folks 20 yrs older. He should try La Cueva near M Cantagalo on a club night, after 0100 hours. I would expect that if he is in shape they might offer to pay him. Lol. Strange as it has always seemed to me, I have experienced multiple dates with much younger guys who were not asking for pay up front in Brazil. Not true elsewhere. That stated they almost always asked for some help from their older mentor at some point and I never objected as I think maybe I understand the dynamics here where poverty is crushing. I limited my support to our time together.

Maybe 6-7 years ago I found a young physical therapist not too far from the M Siq Campos in Copa in an office bldg. Handled my back like an osteopath or chiropractor sort of cracking it along the way. Have to admit he was very effective. It was about $40- per hour which seemed a bit expensive per local rates back then. Perhaps a pro P T person could help.

Tuesday was a local holiday here but the occasional rain or drizzle made a mess of things. Not a beach day. Was at sexy rose a bit late and it was not very busy, though I still had fun. Arrived at 117 in Gloria around 1815 hours. It was a nice walk from cinelandia. A few bands were out maybe for the holiday. Admission price at 117 is now 99 R$. First 30 minutes of cabin time is free on Tuesday. 77 R$ for each additional 30 minutes to follow. I saw someone pay 300 R$ for what seemed like an average looking GP - of course all pricing is highly variable, but I think 200 is a minimum for a hotter GP and maybe without gozar. (Not trying to be evil - so maybe the muscle gods were pricier unless you are a local and speak good PT ??) Others feel free to chime in. Many unfamiliar faces. Familiar GPs from over a year ago tended to be more muscular than before !! There was one group of folks hanging together and I could not figure out clients vs GPs in all cases as the possible GPs, though maybe 35 yo, were muscular and somewhat tanned. I was tired and hungry after sexy rose and left 117 by 2015 hours. Maybe the show was at 2030 or 2100 hours. I missed it. I only saw 1 table of customers buying lots of drinks and did not see any flowing champagne. Wide variety of GPs but only a few twinks. I did not go to Meio Mundo on Monday so I do not know how their twinks compare. Very long line for cabins at 117 and the queen in charge of the queue was stressed out. Lol. May have a few sprinkles at noon Wednesday and possibly partly cloudy to follow so I am hoping for some beach time today. One member PMd me and perhaps did not receive my reply. Please PM me again, etc. Thx.

Floridarob makes some good points. Unlike Kobenhavn where police patrolled the parks at night to keep them safe for gays and drug users eons ago, I know of no other place where this degree of safety might exist today. Mind you, I would guess that parks in Germany or the UK should still be safe at night but this would require confirmation from someone with current knowledge. Athens has a park just north of the famous national archeological museum which is safe during the day and the boys will know where to play. Others play at night elsewhere, but I have never done so, especially as I like to play before sunset. I would never ever play in a park in Istanbul - too many stories of robbery at knifepoint. My guess is that this happened to 2 folks 30 years ago and the stories never stopped, but still..... I know of no such places to play in South America. Via the hook up aps I have met folks in public late at night. Seemed safe for all concerned. In Brazil you can go to a love motel, like Alameda across from 117 to play. Again, as safe for all as is possible.

I wanted to add this as a separate post. Accommodations are much more expensive than pre COVID. In Rio, places are much harder to find than during December 2024, just over a year ago, even at a higher cost. Perhaps due to summer travel and the post COVID tourist boom. The mass of tourists was also true 3 months ago in October 2025 in Barcelona, Venice, Florence (and Rome). So. you will have to consider booking in advance if possible. I prefer to book at the last minute to have more travel freedom. When you see a mini split AC unit it will likely be fairly quiet, but some of the full in wall AC units can be painfully loud and they often rattle adjacent windows loudly. That is one reason why I left my first place as soon as the booking was over. Also, why I often book only 2-3 nights as a time. Second is true to pics, and yes, they lie: this place is painfully small. So please, check the apt pics carefully. Inflation: I think a Metro or bus ticket was 4.30 R$ in 2018 or so. M is 7.90 R$ now. Coconuts at street vendors have doubled from 6 to 12 R$ in the last 1-2 years. So yes, doubling of some prices. No idea how locals survive this. First host warned me regarding thefts: under 18 yo robbers are unlikely to be prosecuted and iphones are preferred object to steal. Also beware of motocycle folks grabbing your stuff. In brief, flash and show nothing and try to look like a local as much as possible. Even at Bangu, one of the GPs jokingly tried grabbing my non iphone from my pocket. I think it was to warn me to put it away unless translating to PT. Also, FYI, mosquitos and other bugs are out. Though not severely. That is all for now .....

Bit of an update. Sunday was busy. Hippie Fair / Market in G Osorio then to the gay beach near Posto 9. The market was busy around 1300 hours. I could not find the previously noted gay flag(s) by the gay beach. Did not seem super gay when I went by. Maybe I was there too early following Saturday night's debaucheries. LOL. Since Gloria is about 30 minutes away by Metro I went there next. Huge Sunday market by the M entrance. But no bands were playing around 1445-1515 hours. Since Bangu Sauna (Boite Casa Grande) is about 70 minutes away by UBER I decided to go there next. Then my TIM sim card simply stopped working. Full signal and 99% available data, but simply would not connect. Took M to Coelho Neto, could not find the Uber using M station wifi and finally took a taxi (77 R$). Arrived just after 1700 hours and stayed until about 1940 hours. The sauna was in poor physical shape with the downstairs front area closed and some flooding. Main floor had many damaged lockers and they had run out of lockers when I arrived. An American was helping to work the register and put my stuff in a tool shed type locker. It was safe enough. He was very nice to me. I heard no one else speaking anything other than PT. One German looking guy came in with his ? German looking younger boy? Very odd. Entry was 45 R$. I had 2 of the 3 GPs I desired. One was great the other was ok, nothing more. Both kissed nicely. Third GP found 2 punters who were buying beer, but no sex. So how was this guy going to earn food money? Oh well.... Cost: the GPs were asking 100-150 for more or less any service you wanted. None were very pushy. Uber, using club wifi, back to Rio was 80+ R$. Monday: went to the beach where it was cloudy, but I did not burn under the beach umbrella !! Then to Sexy Rose from 1700-1900 hours. Very busy and about the latest I have ever been there; though I did not have my full usual luck, I still had plenty of fun. Then back to my place. Started raining and rain ramped up by 2100 hours. Raining heavily overnight and this (Tuesday) am. Still raining on and off. May head out to Sexy Rose before free cabin night at 117.

I suppose young folks do some street cruising like from '50s and '60s Hollywood movies, but I have never seen any street scenes like in LA of SF here. Just the standing outside of a gay bar flirting, no car involved. My best guess is that it is not really something that would likely work if you are older or non-fluent in PT. Also, the scene in front of Corujina ended years ago. So, perhaps best to stick to cruising clubs in centro or lapa mostly or Sexy Rose in cinelandia. Good luck.

As I think have said before: Buttercawan rules !! We are unworthy I tried the Home Rio via Facebook, and the last posting was July 2025, so I thought it was over. I then tried the Insta link and signed in via Facebook login, maybe they are owned by the same company. Not sure why they keep new postings only on Insta and not FB as well. Perhaps there is also a Brazilian social media site I / we are not aware of. The Home has a party tonight starting at 2330 hours. !!! I will likely head out on the last Metro (just before MN I think) and walk the rest of the way. Not difficult. As I remember from the past, you need an ID like a passport for foreigners. It should be packed if it's like late 2024 !! There were folks from twinks to older bears last time I went in Dec 2024. Sure, tweekers too. One could be quite festive in the bathroom stalls which were like mini rooms, LOL. Don't laugh - when I went in 2024 I arrived around 0230 hours and there was no line to get in and left maybe before 0500. Likely saw the newish Florida Club near Aproador and the old Le Boy in the cab back to Ipanema back then. Got cleaned up, crashed for an hour or 2 and then went to the Gregorian Chant Sunday am church service at the monastery by centro and the Bay - it was great. Covered all my bases too Could not figure out The Hole too well, but sounded like no party tonight. Project Kevin had info from June 2025 Pride stuff, plus Carnaval event(s). FCK is next weekend 24 Jan and again at Carnaval 14 Feb. I missed the link for the address. Without his kind links, I / we would be lost. Many thanks oh Jedi Master !!

Well, as in the past, all of the information I can find is old / outdated with some sources still mentioning Le Boy and La Girl that closed years ago. Links for The Week or The Home do not work anymore. Not even sure if 117 has a descent show for a Saturday night anymore, LOL.

Hello Folks: After trying for weeks, finally arrived, LOL. Not sure if I will stay here for 2 weeks or head elsewhere like Sao Paulo, Tiradentes, etc. I went to Sexy Rose after arriving Friday, yesterday. I was there from around 1500-1815 hours. Very busy when I left happy. But lots of folks of most any non 20 yo twink type when I was there. Highly recommended as in the past. For those thinking of coming to Brazil: Don't be put off by weather reports which note rainy days, as it is mostly sunny, or cloudy with occasional rain, as is common in tropical summers. Again, mostly sunny/. Might go to the Hole or Home or whatever it is called now later Saturday night if I can find any info. If not, maybe Taurus in Lapa. Will likely do the Hippy Fair in Ipanema and ealy pm beach Sunday, followed by Gloria market and bandas-if any, followed by Bangu Sauna, maybe 1500-1800 hours. Feel free to reach out and say hi if anyone else is in town now.

Hello All: Very low airfares from several US cities into some Brazilian cities now, including Brasilia. Often with stops in SP or Rio for the connection. Thinking about 3-5 days in SP. I am familiar with Rio. Clueless for SP, save for the many comments about the GP sauna there. I think Pauleiro posted some SP comments a year or 2 ago. Trying to get an idea how folks spend their non sauna time in SP. In Rio a typical day for me would be some am work, a jog at the beach, maybe the gym or a late am hour or 2 at the beach, make lunch at the BnB and head out to do some shopping or Sexy Rose to follow. I assume there are places like Sexy Rose in SP and Brasilia. Early am sex clubs like Taurus, etc? 117 or 202 at 1800 hrs or so, with dinner before or after. Sometimes a nap and a late night early am event. A day here or there doing tourist stuff or a day trip. Sundays at the Ipanema Hippie Fair art market in the am and Gloria music events after lunch. Banju Sauna to follow. Depending on costs and my mood I will generally stay in Copa, Ipa near G Osorio or Paz, or Leblon near the M stop that is further out. Prices and general tranquility increase away from Copa. What are the equivalents for SP and Brasilia? Thanks in advance.

I was in Naples about 15 years ago. There was a bath house with some action when I was there. When driving away to another area in the central part of the city, there were some street hustlers I passed en route. I did not stop to find out more, LOL. On one of the older web sites, perhaps the now defunct cruisingforsex or maybe squirt, there were other postings about street trade. Floating around someplace years ago there was a YouTube or other video about young Romanians being pimped out by their dads someplace in the Naples area where the ? gypsies had an encampment. You made an agreement with the dad, went to a nearby mostly empty car park, did your deed and returned the boy (? older teen). Not sure who was paid what, when etc. The Palace at Caserta was gigantic and has a large gardens area. Near the Palace itself, there were some secluded spots in the garden for play :). When I was there, there seemed to be no issue in the middle of the day. Just be a bit discreet. I was in Italy recently but only noted limited activity on Grindr, Scruff, Romeo, Sniffies, etc. Never hooked up. I agree with the OP, some were way too aggressive. I thought in a few cases it was because they lived away from the city and had no means to quickly get into town. Perhaps that made them more desperate for sex if you could come to their place. One person flaked. Spain and Italy were completely packed with tourists in October - actually worse than pre-COVID typical height of summer season. Finding a place to stay was difficult. There was a 1 week wait for a regular ticket to Sagrada Familia in Barcelona. Some next day waits at the Uffizi and Accademia in Firenze and a 2 week wait for a regular, non $100 plus private tour ticket for the Vatican museum in Rome. I was told no photos were being allowed at the Sistine Chapel! At the Duomo in Florence and some other sites, they greatly restricted where tourists could wander - both side transepts, altar area and behind the altar were all roped off. Folks praying were allowed to one transept area. Santo Spirito in Florence also had one attendant telling folks not to take photos, most took them anyway. Most everyone used cell phones without flash. In Venice during the Biennale St Marks seemed fully open to explore, though some areas had price add-ons to visit. I agree with the OP that the major cities seemed too crowded vs past visits, sometimes chokingly so. I left Italy a bit early due to some rainy days approaching and I needed a break from my break. Award airfares back to North America were also about to get painfully expensive. AA had Premium Economy seats available from Milan at a low fare and UA had higher coach awards (but at their 40K base level) from many Italy cities. AC, AF, KL, and BA were not any better. BA also charges very high fees and taxes of over $300 USD via London. German fees and taxes are also a bit high now around $170 USD. I think they were around $65 USD in the past. All AA and UA award lower cost awards seemed to be evaporating as the rains were approaching. I also looked at some other cities. Athens was at 110K for an award ticket (yikes) and BCN, MAD, etc were also very costly. MUC and VIE were also above base levels as was PAR. These are all cites reachable by train in under 10 hours from Venice, Milan, Turin in the north.

When you get sick abroad: Where to go and what to expect Hi Folks: Posting this in the Europe Forum but also applies elsewhere. Moderator can feel free to suggest if this should be posted elsewhere or limit comments to Europe, SA, Asia, etc per the appropriate Forum. One thing that always seems to be missing in postings are specifics of what to do if health trouble arises. Afterall, many of us are a bit older. Was in Barcelona recently and got sick. LOL. While at Boyberry I saw a flyer for what seemed like a gay health service: Barcelona Checkpoint, Comte Borrell 164-166, 08015 BCN https://www.bcncheckpoint.com/ and not too far away, just north of Boyberry by a few blocks. When I got there around noon I was told to head elsewhere to a neighborhood / regional hospital clinic. Checkpoint also said they usually see people a few days after you call them or drop in. Centro Médico Manso Certificados Médicos en Barcelona https://www.centromedicomanso.com/ corner of Manso and Calabria, near Poble Sec Metro and about 4 blocks south of Rocafort Metro. C/ Calàbria, 17 Entlo. 5ª, BARCELONA Telfs. +34 678 310 109 / +34 93 424 03 37 | SIN CITA PREVIA Webpage notes they were closed from 4 to 24 August ? 2025. Webpage mentions medical certificates, but Manso was available for a variety of issues. Just be prepared to wait. You start on the ground floor where someone sorts you out. My Catala is non existent, Spanish is poor, so the nice lady and I spoke in French. I then went to another floor. Since I had never been a patient before, they had to do all the expected entry documentation. Only issue was that my Airbnb address was temporary as I expected to leave the next day. But they could not process paperwork without a local address. LOL. I was told that I might have to pay over 100 Euros. If you have a health card from another EU country, the service might be free or low cost. Not sure about UK. I was then told which waiting area to hang out in and was seen about an hour or so later. A curmudgeon like doctor saw me along with 2 nurses at different times. Once sorted out, I went back to the registration desk, pulled out my credit card and paid just under $200. I was at C M Manso from about 1230-1600 hours. The meds prescribed were under $10 each at the nearby pharmacy. I was ok to leave Barcelona the next day. They had my signed permission to use email for any further contact as needed, as I was told I would not be able to contact the doctor or nurses directly. I thought the service was good overall, but not sure I trust the test results. Oh well. The sheet I got from Checkpoint mentioned 5 other hospital / clinic places as well. They all seemed to be part of Consulta d'ITS. Antencio Primaria Barcelona Ciutat - Institut Catala de la Salut. All 6 centers names started with - Centre CAP, then Manso, Numancia, Casa Antic, Luis Saye (Raval Nord), El Clot, and the 6th was Centre CAP Passeig de Sant Joan. Apologies, as I do not speak Catala and there are many typos in the cut and pastes below, none of the accent marks carried over and some became typos. Fora de l'horaride les consultes d'lTS, tamb6 us poden atendre, els 365 dies de l'any, les 24 hores del dia, als Centre d'Urgdncies d'Atenci6 Primdria: CUAP Manso - Ci Manso, 19, planta baixa. 08015 Barcelona. CUAP Sant Marti- C/ Fluvid 211Planta Bbixa, 08020 Barcelona Centre CAP Manso Adrega: C/ Manso '19, planta 5a 08015 Barcelona Teldfon 93 554 28 89 Hoiari de la Consulta:' Dimecres idijous de 15 a 20 h Centre CAP Numdncia Adrega: C/ Numdncia 23, planta baixa 08029 Barcelona Teldfon 93 495 58 86 Horari de la Consulta: Dimarts 15 a 20 h Centre CAP Casc Antic Adreqa: C/ Rec Comtal 24, planta 1a 08003 Barcelona ' Teldfon 93 310 14 21 Horari de la Consulta: ' Dimecres 15 a 20 h Centre CAP Lluis Say6 (Raval Nord) Adrega: C/ Torres i Amat 8, planta 1a 08001 Barcelona Teldfon 93 301 27 05 Horari de la Consulta: Dimarts de 15 a 20h Centre'GAP ElClot Adrega: C/ Concili de Trento 25, Planta Baixa 08018 Barcelona Teldfon 93 303 73 01 Horari de la Consulta: Dilluns de 15 a 17.30h Centre GAP Passeig de Sant Joan Adrega: C/ Ali-Bei 18-20, Consuita 1, 08010 Barcelona Teldfon 93 265 01 17 Horari de la Consulta: Dilluns de 15 a 20h As for other places, in Brazil, there are many public clinics and hospitals. When in Parati / Paraty many years ago I needed stitches due to a deep glass cut on my foot while at the beach. I got through very quickly and they were very nice. No charge! There are both public and private places in all major cities in Brazil. You pay more but can get faster service for non-urgent matters privately, usually. Even at some private clinics the wait for a specialist might be weeks. At pharmacies many meds are over the counter, but many antibiotics require a prescription (I think in PT it is pronounced similar to receipt / recetta in English) from a local Brazilian doctor. Some meds can only be dispensed at public clinics and are not available at local pharmacies. Strangely, the local pharmacists seem absolutely clueless about any med not available at their pharmacy, even if it can be obtained at a public clinic. And yes, some require a public clinic doctor visit first. Waiting times could be days to weeks for the appointment and an hour or so waiting in the clinic for the doctor. If you are about to run out of your meds, make any needed appointment well in advance and it is sometimes best to go to the clinic area that covers your needs at the local public hospital or clinic and pursue matters there. For reasons unknown to me, they seem to prioritize some polite foreigners who know some PT. I have never been charged for seeing the doctor or even for the meds dispensed at a public clinic. When I had to see an ophthalmologist, eye doctor, I was seen quickly, proper testing was performed, and I was reassured that I did not have an acute retinal tear. Cost was about $160.00. Physical therapy in Brazil was of a high quality and seemed to be a mix chiropractic and PT by the person I went to in Copa years ago. I think the cost was $40 per session. Very satisfied with quality of care overall. Poland - again, years ago. I had kidney stones. Went to 3 places (starting with one mentioned in my guidebook - pre internet era), per referrals from one to another. After second place did not have a urologist available that day, I ended up at a large hospital. Service and care were excellent. Fastest labs I have ever experienced. Wait time for the doctor was under an hour. Doctor was trained in Germany and the ultrasound machine looked brand new. I do not think it was a clinic day. Never heard of the meds, but an excruciating day later I passed the bad boy stone. My only minimal cost was for the meds. Zero cost for the 2 prior clinic stops and no cost for the doctor, labs, and ultrasound at the large hospital. I thought the care in Poland was excellent. In the US and Canada you can wait days to weeks for non-acute care and longer waits for specialists. In general, more treatment options are available in the US, but at higher costs and co-pays. In Canada care starts with your primary care provider who can make a referral for a specialist. Care plans / costs vary widely in Canada based upon your Province and if you have a private insurance supplement. In the US you can go directly to a specialist without primary care doctor referral in some plans, but not others. For non-US residents or those without insurance that will be accepted in the US healthcare costs will be very high. In Canada, healthcare costs for non-residents will be less than the US but still high. Please feel free to add your experiences and suggestions.

I went to the cinema from 430-6pm and paid for one guy, 20 euros. He put a condom on me and sucked for a short while. I sucked him off and he seemed to find it odd that I did not cum. The tiny room we were in was very hot, too hot for me. There were other guys, including one that kept following me again. I made it clear that I was not interested. LOL. The park was very quiet from about 645 to 715pm. A few guys, but also lots of security folks again. Nothing I thought I needed to go into the bushes for. As a generality, there might be many gay for pay but otherwise straight sex workers. In general I only found a couple of guys willing to service me, almost all were only interested in me sucking them off or letting them top me (I am only a top). There were some guys that would bottom privately pre covid in the bathroom stalls or couple of rooms at the Kosmo before it closed. As most have always been from an Arab / moslem or central Asian background, I think there is huge prejudice about being passive sexually. I don’t think the issue is price. But I am not offering 100 E to get me off. As I noted, I had one street pick up who bottomed. Go figure. I just found hunqz on the web, but did not check prices. I was paying 10-25 euros per encounter. The boys know which hotels to go to and the Mansion was used for sex pre covid as well, 5- per romp. The boys will tell you where play will occur where ever you meet them. But most want privacy. The issue is that if they block the exit door of your play space while demanding more money it could get out of control pretty easily. Also, unlike Brazil, or Spanish speaking latin america where many of speak a bit of PT or SP, who among us speaks what the guys here speak - Greek, Arabic, Farsi, etc? As elsewhere, the smarter boys are likely looking for locals for multiple encounters. The guys I saw in the cine were a mix of 50+ and in ok shape and older almost in need of canes and walkers to get around. At the park, the punters were all ambulatory, some quite old looking, but not all. My guess is that those offering services were up to 30 yrs old and most were quite thin, wire-ey muscular. Some were dark skinned, maybe Pakistani / Indian, the Afgans could be more pale and reasonably western looking. Only saw a few Albanians and no Bulgarians this trip. The place where the busses for these folks drop off may have changed from just west of omonia. That drop point could be a potential place to meet new talent. Well, maybe someone can figure it out….LOL. As for comparisons, think of Athens more like rough trade for sex. Also, the city is never clean, never. As you go west of omonia, you also find the druggies and some non druggie sex workers. I am surprised that the Port of Piraeus never comes up. It has some pretty grimy areas, but I have never been there late. Also no clue for paid gay sex on the islands. If you are hot and 20 yo, you can make your own fun anywhere.

Many thanks to all of the various posters in this and other threads Further adventures: with the Air Canada strike I got sort of stuck in Athens for a few extra days. So doing a ton of work from the hotel. Why a hotel: large good bf and good wifi. Not bringing anyone back to your room is quite reasonable here. Had I met other middle class folks in Athens, then yes, would think about bringing them back to my place. Please, I am not trying to be prejudicial here. Even Grindr hook ups can go bad. I took a day off from sex for sightseeing. Next day I met up with the Iraqi or Iranian guy. He tried skype calling me multiple times - but why – we did not understand anything except price. LOL. He was on time to the meeting spot near Omonia Hondos Centre and we went to the Hotel / Hostel Mansion to play. 5 Euros for the hotel and 20+5 for the guy. He wanted 30 euros but I said no and left the room. I just didn’t like being hustled, but it was more like begging. I would gladly have paid for lunch with him to follow. Communication issues. Did a bit of shopping. Went back to cine at 1400 hours. I think they have a true noon lunch crowd too. Found the guy from the past who you could suck off for 10 euros. Still does not speak anything but Greek, LOL. He did look older post covid. Played with a somewhat non lean Albanian guy. Room to play in was so hot we just stopped before either could cum. I paid him 20. Oh well. Another word of caution: one rent guy kept following me, especially right after I entered. It was so dark and it takes time for your eyes to adjust. I tried to stay as far from him as possible to avoid a pick pocket. Of course, he might have been just plying for sex work and nothing else. Trust your cautious instincts. Did more regular stuff and then went to the big park around 6pm. There was trade available, but I was a bit hungry for food and did not find the young guys too hot. I could have stayed longer and likely would would have had a couple of scores. As before, lots of families, joggers, and the most security folks I have seen this trip. They seemed to be checking into a group of adults as I walked nearby. But I needed dinner as I skipped lunch and thought it ok to leave, I had already cum and was not super horny. As for hunqz, I think it is part of the Romeo app. If so, I really did not find much. Maybe it is a separate app and given how hot Athens is now, maybe the boys are elsewhere. I am not sure. Happy to be clued in. After wasting hours on the phone and chat I finally got a flight out of Greece.

Khaolakguy I think I was in Athens around 2 years or ago, as COVID was waning, I think.... Next day just had one guy at the cinema around 1500 hours, but he could not / would cum and would not get me off either, LOL. I saw that guy hanging out near the cine entrance on other days as well. Did a couple of regular guys too. Was not feeling great due to many mosquito bites and contact allergy, so no more sex. 4th day was busy: maybe a not so very young Moroccan guy in the park before 1500 hours. He spoke some French. Like other guys, not interested in sucking me or bottoming for me. It was fun though. 20 euros to blow him, with him cuming. The park was not blazing hot today. Saw a few guys but some might have been hanging out with other older local punters or other young friends. At least one seemed less Arab looking and more central European looking. A few minutes later and some left and others showed up. So, maybe it was best to hang out for a long time, but I had some fun and time for next stop. Cosmo Theatre area was again devoid of boys. Not far from the Hondos center entrance near Omonia Station or maybe across the street and on the west side by another station entrance I saw 2 young guys hanging out. Smiled. And then said hello due to eye contact. Neither spoke anything other than ? Arabic. Could have been Afgan, not sure. I thought we had agreed to go to a hotel for sex and that I would pay him 20-. He seemed to know a female sex trade worked on the way to the ? Odysseus Hotel. 5 euros at front desk for room. After he came I gave him 20 euros. He would not get me off and seemed not to like me grabbing his ass while blowing him. Was watching straight porn on his phone the whole time - this was also true for some guys at the Kosmo Cine pre covid. He demanded 30- and started to make a scene. I started shouting – we were on a floor just for sex and there was a maid or 2 around. After blocking door, he let me out while trying to pick my pocket. Not a happy meal, but no violence in the end. After eating and a bit of shopping I saw a guy walking on the street in the Indian / Pakistani area just west of Omonia and he looked a bit like someone I had sex with in the past, pre covid – 10 E to suck that guy off. Maybe an Afgan guy, but not who I thought he was. We did the eye contact and second and third looks as we walked past each other. He was shopping too, but also in the sex trade as he knew where we could play. We went to the Hotel or Hostel Mansion, about 2 blocks from the Kosmo cinema and just a few blocks from where we met on the street. Nondescript looks on the street but in hotel room he was thin and muscular and looked better with his clothes off. I fucked him but he did not cum for me. Traded whats app info. Great. Next day I just did sightseeing. Bites / contact allergy still looked bad but not as itchy. We texted a few times but did not hook up again. As I write this, waiting for a reply on whats app, but he has not been on whats app since last night. Hopefully, he will reply, but I won't keep my hopes too high, lest this be like Brazil. Might head to the park early today for “dessert”, or more Also over the past few days: Daytime I walked past but did not go into Samis Bar (correct spelling), which was closed – just a late night, early am place, or Bizzar Club (which I did not find, but only later realized I was on airplane mode to save battery, LOL. These are just west of the big park north of Ntl Arch Mus and near Victoria Metro stop. Did not try the train station a bit further west. I skipped the gay clubs in Gazi as I was asleep at 0200 hours Friday and Saturday nights. If you come to Athens, be sure to do the touristy sunset on the hill near the Acropolis main entrance, I think just to the north and a relatively quick 10 minute walk from Monasteraki metro station. It is truly magical. (But not a place to hook up) Folks, be careful about what is in your pockets ! ! ! Napkins, condoms, and lotion for lube, plus maybe 50 euros at any time for expenses.

EDI: A few folks on grindr but no hook ups. Actually, saw one of the guys in a queue next day. Old CFS site is now closed and I never did figure out location for cruising area and cruisy toilet from many years ago. Did not check the sauna either. Whole month of August is Fest and Fringe and town is packed. But it is also very expensive to be here now as a result of this. Most folks will spend the day seeing plays, comedies, etc and lots of drinking. So, folks are likely too tired and hung over to play and it really is not a big gay event per se although tons of LGBTQ+ are in town. Also, the couple of gay bars are at the edge of the downtown core and not up against the main staging areas. I think the sauna is peripheral too. Not aware of any pay for play. ATH: Cine Athinikon near the Fresh Hotel. This cine is the one closest to the corner. There is another one as well – never saw any comments about it. First night - just a few guys for play and only a few regular punters. Pre Covid Cosmopolit / Kosmopolit Cinema was much busier. Maybe my timing was bad. I got pick pocketed so be very careful. Whoever did it was really good. Very lucky I did not lose my phone and credit cards. Went with one average looking guy for 20 e. As of this posting he was the one only guy that would suck me off and only kisser. Also, the most average looking guy I had paid sex with. On this trip the young paid guys were all about servicing them – and it was good fun. Had non-paid sex with some regular non young guys too. Kosmopolit cinema is still closed. But alley way on the right is cleaned up now, so no place for sex. (Some of the Kosmo area druggies have moved a few blocks west, but think the current drugged out folks area was in the same general area before covid.) Cosmo / Kosmopolit Hotel next door is open. Only boys I saw were likely regular teens staying at the hotel having a beer outside. No other young guys hanging out in the area. Looks like the area got cleaned up, really cleaned up. Same was true in the large park just a few blocks north of the National Archaeological Museum that has the large Konstantinos statue with him on horseback. They really cleaned up this park. Did not see any druggies and tons of joggers, folks walking dogs, families, etc hour before sunset. However, just beyond the 4 red steel poles on the left side of a main walkway I did find a few boys hanging out and smiling at me when I looked at them. Met with a smooth hot twink like young Afgan guy. I had no idea where it would be safe to play but he knew of a spot. Maybe 21 cm cut cock, but small balls, and he could not cum. Was not into blowing me and no kissing. LOL. He gave me his whats app so maybe we could meet next day. Cost was 20 euros; I should have paid less. Next day I had multiple young guys in the cine Athinikon from 3-6pm. Only 1 did not cum for me. None would even play with me, much less anything else. Had sex with 1 young guy in the park at sunset. Hard for him to cum. Not into playing with me, etc. I must have been eaten alive by mosquitoes and maybe also had a contact allergy to whatever leaves / bushes etc were in the shrubs where we played. They got quite bad the next day. Third day was a national religious holiday and 3-day weekend. Downtown Athens seemed almost deserted! Only 1 working guy in cinema around 3 pm. Had sex with regular guys too. Got more mosquito bites in the cine, so left and did not go to park before sunset. Seems the hot summer is a bad time to be looking for sex in Athens. Many mosquito bites did not help. The 3-day holiday weekend made things even worse for sex as I assume many get out of town. Grindr, Scruff, Romeo, adam4adam, and sniffies have been a bust so far. One guy could not stop being chatty long enough for sex. Another wanted video calls for chat on scruff and only a few folks on sniffies. Some flakes and scammers too. A4A and Romeo had like 2 folks locally. Will likely skip Sammies and other nearby bar as I probably am not up to heading out at 0100 hours. Thanks in advance for any other suggestions where to find guys.

Clubs and bars closing seems to be true everywhere for the past 20+ years. I don't remember Copa ever having many gay bars / clubs. Years ago, several of them had high cover charges by local standards and were often dead until 0200 hrs etc. Huge dance parties like The Home or whatever the new name is exist in Rio and likely SP as sell. The places for sex play in Brazil can get pretty wild 😜

10+ years ago I went by bus to Eilat then walked through the border at Aquaba, having met 2 Ozzie women who drove me up to Petra via a car hire. Stayed in a Bedouin camp. Quite chilly overnight. Wonderful hospitality. Petra was amazing. You saw more in Amman than I did. Crossed back via Allenby Bridge to Israel. Delightful trip. 👍