SolaceSoul

Yes, I was about to say the same thing. Unless Juan Binbin has moved to a new location in the last few weeks (since Easter), it’s only a couple of short walking blocks north of Independence Park in the Colonial Zone and a 7-9 minute walk from Paco’s. It’s no more “dicey” than anything else in Zona Colonial — and definitely not less dicey than walking to Cine Lido On Av. Meila! What IS consistent about Juan Binbin is the selection of boys is never great.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48391926

“Accept all praise. Ignore all criticism. Plod on.”

I agree. This guy is posting in detail about slobbing knobs on cum-filled floors in dark, smelly adult theaters in an established known in the DR to attract only the same kind of substandard looking men one would see at an adult peep show in Anytown, USA — doing these activities while wearing a gag mask (the leather / S&M scene is at minimum very unpopular in Latin / South America and at most, completely frowned upon, even by the gays). It’s clearly an odd display of “humble bragging” to the group, but I am still trying to figure out what exactly there is to brag about here. That some chubster went to the DR and paid $1.25 USD to suck multiple random dicks in dark rooms while wearing knee pads and a mask? After the second or third post, it was repetitive.

Personally, I barely ever meet anyone from apps even when I’m in the States. When traveling abroad, same thing. Too many “catfish”, too much back and forth, and the screening process for verification can be too lengthy. I’m a very visual person and need to see what I am getting, and need to know that it’s real. On my last 3-month stay in Brazil, I met only one guy off Grindr — a GdP or a “boy”. He looked exactly like all of his photos, which was a big plus, but the programa was very uneventful. Will not repeat.

If you think that’s gross, take a look at some of the clients or customers.

The saying that should be repeated here is, “those who know better, do better.” If you are a man of a certain age from a first- or second-world developed country, and you also have the means and ability to travel abroad, then you damn.well should already know about the risks of transmission from bareback sex of not only HIV, but other potentially deadly or chronic STDs (whether treatable or not — are we just going to forget about the rise in the USA in STD transmission since the use of PreP — some of which are becoming resistant to antibiotics?). There’s been a recent explosion in meningitis cases in men who have sex with men. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/science-and-health/2018/5/22/17376742/truvada-prep-hiv-stds I’ve had several Brazilian garotos and non-garoto (and in other countries) dates offer me bareback during the “heat of passion”, which I always refuse. If I had to estimate, the percentage who have offered it is maybe 10% — still too high (even one is too high). I’m 48, and started going out to gay clubs in the 80s — so, I’m old enough to remember watching men drop like flies weekly, but still young enough to be considered like an uncle or older brother to some of these brasileiros. So, it isn’t that hard for me to sit one down after he offers me bareback to tell him to be careful about doing that with someone, just because you think they’re “clean” because of how they look or because of what first-world country they are from. I made it through the Plague Period without ever seroconverting to HIV+ status (fortunately, and probably because back then, I wasn’t having any intercourse with men, which probably saved my life) , but I saw enough death and tragedy from friends and clubgoer colleagues who did — and at the time, it WAS considered a “death sentence”. So, I’ll be damned if after making it through that dark period unscathed, that I do something (or allow someone to do something) that is high-risk behavior for me or themselves. The harsh truth is that while some here are demonizing the garotos for unsafe sex practices, some of the clients and tourists participate in riskier sex than the garotos — and this is how HIV and other STDs are transmitted. As “hot” as the garoto you’re with may be to you, he’s also been with quite a few of those same clients that you’d rather not fuck. That mental image right there is enough to sober me up.

https://www.gq.com/story/how-dating-apps-ruined-traveling “Sampling the guys of places I visited was fun until it wasn’t. Instead of being open to hookups while traveling, it began feeling like a necessary part of the trip—that it was my international duty to make nations closer by having my body parts smashing up against some resident’s. And while there's nothing wrong with wanting to hook up on vacation, I've come to the realization that that I was relying on making out in new places just as tourists depend on Fodor’s Travel Guides as the blueprint for a proper trip.” How Dating Apps Ruined Traveling

As opposed to all those warm and fuzzy LGBTQ protections we get from the current creeps in The White House and his supporters? In case you haven’t noticed, anti-LGBTQ rights and protections are being stripped in the USA under the Trump administration, and violence against LGBTQ has skyrocketed. AND in the USA, there are no saunas, prostitution is illegal, and there’s a nationwide obesity epidemic and opioid / meth crises.

20 days in the DR, even for an experienced visitor, is a very long time. For a first-timer, this could prove to be madness. Especially if you’re primarily there for sexual exploration. Five days, tops, before it gets insanely monotonous. If you add on other activities, or you do explorative things that are just for relaxation or serenity — like quiet beach towns or countryside areas, maybe a week and a day before the monotony and the hustle wears thin. Even if you are able to throw yourself into cultural activities in the DR beyond sex and keep any expectations to a minimum, 20 days as a first-timer with no other business there will be... an experience, to say the least.

Another thing they say in The South is “bless your heart”.

Newsflash, Mrs. Gladys Crabtree, Hall Monitor: This is a site and a forum about sex and sex tourism.

Those are good statistics to know. However, we can probably all agree that homicide — although important — is not and should not be the only safety or crime concern or marker for anywhere. Many crimes and accidents involve harrowing incidents that are short of death: physical injury or dismemberment, armed robbery, rape, assault, kidnapping, etc.

There are no “glory holes” in a place like Dominican Republic. Glory holes are almost exclusively a cultural thing (almost exclusively in North America and parts of Western Europe). If that’s what you’re into, you will have to make your own, and see what occurs. But Cine Lido has typical old school adult theatre sex shenanigans (one large screen playing porn in an old dark unsanitary theatre and a bathroom with bathroom smells) where local men carry on in dark spaces, and Apolo Sauna is a nicely appointed bathhouse styled gay sauna with dark rooms and spaces upstairs. I don’t think there are any official “glory holes” there, either. But as I’m really not a huge fan of dark spaces (I need to see what I’m getting), I can’t say that with absolute certainty there could not be ANY glory holes in walls somewhere in the DR. I suppose the only way to find out is to comb every crevice of those places. It’s a dirty thankless job, but you seem like you’re up to the challenge!

Are you sure about this, or is this just personal anecdote? According to this aggregate of the world’s most dangerous countries, Columbia is #45, Brazil is #85 and Dominican Republic is #90 — only one place ahead of Jamaica at #90. These aggregate sources take in consideration all kind of threats such as mugging, crime, road death toll, occurrence of terrorist attacks and wars. https://safearound.com/danger-rankings/country-danger-ranking/

I can think of only one “black Brazilian” who lives in Ipanema and works at 117 (that’s a fairly rare combination). He also has roommates who are sauna workers, off and on. So, I’m fairly certain that I know who this is. He is a very laid-back person. It would take a shitload of crap to set him off and make him threaten violence. That dumb American must have really tried to pull one over on those garotos!

And — just based on my life of experience — I’d bet dollars-to-donuts that this 30-year-old American was one of those presumptuous, entitled types who assumes that he doesn’t have to pay for “it”, just by virtue of who he is / how he thinks he looks / what an amazing personality he has / because free sex is so plentiful wherever he goes. This tale is as old as Father Time... and almost as old as some posters here! LOL I’m siding with the 2 black Brazilians in the apartment here. No sympathy for the 30-year-old American. We even have had a couple of posters at this forum who remind me of this guy.

You apparently skipped over the last part of my post? ”The “safe” age in the USA and its territories as well as the rest of the free world is 18. Only a fool would even risk it — but as we have learned here, there are quite a few fools around these parts.” Also, you failed to understand this part of my post that, I thought, clearly states that the ages of 12-16 for non-commercial sex would only be legal for US citizens or permanent residents in any country in the world under limited circumstances (if the minor is between 12-16, the perpetrator can’t be more than 4 years older than the alleged victim). ”The Protect Act of 2003 prohibits U.S. citizens and legal residents from illicit sexual conduct including commercial sex (prostitution, etc.) with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age. This law applies even if the country in which the sexual acts take place has a lower age of consent.”

The age of consent laws in any state in the USA have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you have a US passport. It’s all about the jurisdiction under which the act (or attempted act) occurred, and the age of the parties. It’s called “statutory” for a reason. So, if a certain state statute (like the one in NJ) says “the age of consent is 16”, it doesn’t matter if the offender has a US passport or is a US citizen or green card holder or not, or if the alleged victim or pursued victim has a passport or is a citizen. What’s all that matters to state law is: where did the alleged crime occur? What’s the age of consent in that state? What’s the age of the parties involved? l will also throw in the even more important federal US statute that covers anything in the USA and its territories: Federal law makes it criminal to engage in a sexual act with another person who is between the age of 12 and 16 if they are at least four years younger than you. Since you are WAYYYYY past the age of being 4 years older than a 16 year old, you would be prosecuted by the Feds anywhere in the USA and its territories for even attempting to engage in sexual conduct with anyone 16 years or younger. And then, there are federal laws on age of consent that apply to US citizens and permanent residents (green card holders) when they are traveling abroad. The Protect Act of 2003 prohibits U.S. citizens and legal residents from illicit sexual conduct including commercial sex (prostitution, etc.) with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age. This law applies even if the country in which the sexual acts take place has a lower age of consent. The “safe” age in the USA and its territories as well as the rest of the free world is 18. Only a fool would even risk it — but as we have learned here, there are quite a few fools around these parts.

I don’t know the name of the place next to it, but that restaurant with all the yellow awnings is Amarelinho’s — the main Cinelandia location. There is also a location in Gloria / Catete Not fat at all from the Gloria Metro station, which is a great place to get a (very large) meal with drinks after visiting the nearby sauna Club 117. Amarelinho’s at the edge of Gloria / Catete is only two doors down from the LoveTime Hotel, a nice place to take your garoto dates, if ever needed (also, not a bad place to stay for a couple of nights and very safe— if you’re looking for a place close to 117). The gay sex theatre in Cinelandia (Cine Rex) is most certainly haunted — with zombies of local (usually older, not in Instagram model shape, average to below average, American Walmart bodies) men lurking in the dark for sex. There’s almost always a few working boys looking for cheap (no more than $50R) if you can tolerate the stench of urine. Next to Cine Rex is the adult bookstore / sex shop Sexy Rose, which has booths and a maze, and oddly enough (in true Brazil fashion, a DJ and drag shows in the evening while cruisers ignore the shows while creeping in the dark spaces for sex romps. Before anyone asks, I’ve never been able to ascertain if there are working boys seeking programas at Sexy Rose. My observations conclude that there aren’t, only guys going to hook up in the dark with some other guys that they physically prefer, but if others have different knowledge or experience, you’re welcome to share. There’s a gay / gay-ish dance club that throws DJ street parties next to Cine Rex on Friday and Saturday nights. The street is Rua Alvaro Alvim, which is more a cobblestoned alley walkway. I don’t know the name of the club or party, but when you walk down the street on a weekend night, and you see mostly guys (with some straight couples) dancing in the street to a DJ playing “I’m Coming Out” by Diana Ross, it’s kindasorta a universal language being spoken.

Easter Weekend is comparably disappointing in all of Brazil, as it’s a very Catholic country. Most working boys (and local clients) will be home with their families. But if you have never been to Rio before, you have nothing to compare it to, so you won’t notice a difference. Just keep in mind that the crowd you will see there is normally larger.

This pinned thread created by the prolific poster Tomcal should be your first stop:

I would amend this to include 117 as a great option on Fridays. I would say, depending on your personal tastes, it’s a toss up between 117 and 202 on Fridays (or, for the Ironmen, do both). I would also add that Thursdays at either club are particularly slow and hit-or-miss. It’s a great night for a date outside the clubs and skin the saunas entirely. But if you’re visiting Rio for a short period, I can understand why you’d want to spend every day at the sauna!

I last visited Recife in December 2016. From what I can remember, the garoto prices in both Recife and Fortaleza were about the same as they were in Salvador, but I don’t know if I can definitively state that 80 reais was the standard. Maybe between 80 and 100 reais would make more sense in 2019. Either way, it’s about only a $5-$6 USD difference, and IMHO, is not an unreasonable price difference. Maybe another, more frequent visitor has a different opinion.

Pauleiro. I believe I was the poster you quoted about Recife having 3-4 payboy saunas. But you also mentioned Clube 11 in this post. Clube 11 is in Salvador. Depending on the night of the week, in Salvador you can visit either Clube 11 or Sauna Fox (The A-list Saunas), or Sauna Olympus or Thermas 13 (The B-list Saunas) — or a combination thereof. As for Recife, I might be getting the names mixed up, but I remember Sauna Progresso as the sauna that also doubles as a bar in the open air. Thermas Boa Vista was nearby in the same neighborhood (not walkable, not advisable to try, so Uber or cab). Blue Thermas is in the Boa Viagem area and more modern facilities. Regarding the boys, each of these 3 saunas on busy nights should have plenty of garotos. Personally, I found the Progresso setup the more difficult to navigate, because some were there for just the bar or shows while others were there for sauna culture — but your mileage may vary. The other two, I found more suitable for me. I haven’t been to the 4th sauna, Thermas 111, and I have no reports about it.