germark01

Not a good time for international traveling. 

That picture is in Mexico, many people promised to take him places when he got his passport, then when he got it, they all had excuses why they couldn't. I brought him to Mexico for 2 weeks during his vacation. Everyone that met him,loved him. Always offered to pay his own way while he was here...very rare.

Was there some 2-3 yrs ago for a short while. Myself not that much interested in such types, so just general info. Manilla does have (had, no idea about how corona works out there) several gay saunaś and massageplaces, not so much anymore in the sentral/downtown area but in Quezon, which is a separate area but just part of the same mega-city. If there are any sauna;ś that would offer more in commercial offers I dk. I visited a msg place which works much the same as in BKK (which I visit very frequently since many yrs) or Pnom Penh- you select a masseur and once in the cubicle you make an arrangement for ´special extra´ services-which one generally does not in BKK (it just comes naturally there) and which/what/how muth etc. Do not expect (contrary to general description) that all Pinoy guys are fluent in english. I remember i choose from an ´aquarium´ where the guys stand behind a glass screen. If some of these shops specialise in your type of guy I also dk.
On the old shamelessmack blog (part 1-now long ago) and on travelgaysia you can find reviews and listings.
Most other postings etc i saw on the other well known fora recommend the usual moderntimes contact sites to make a selection.
If youre still in doubt, also consider Bali/Indonesia.

I would like to get information as well.. 

Hi guys, I thought I'd share my experiences in the four cities which I visited for the first time last October.
London. My first stop from Sydney. The first thing I noticed when I arrived was how old and small and cramped the underground tube is. It looked like they never updated it from when they built it in the 1800s, lol. I rode the London Eye but was bored because of the long wait I had to endure to get to it. I visited the Tower Bridge (had a great pic which garnered 97 likes from friends on Facebook, lol), Big Ben (sadly in construction), Buckingham Palace (too crowded), St Paul's Cathedral (it's okay), Borough Market (not to be missed if you're a foodie). I went to Villa Giani but I didn't hire anyone. It was Tuesday 8pm when I went and there were 4 guys -- 3 Brazilians and 1 Polish. They're okay looking but none swept me off my feet. I felt guilty that I didn't give them any business yet the receptionist was very nice about it and wished me a lovely day when I left. Or he probably was calling me all terrible names for wasting their time. 
Amsterdam. I went to the Red Light District and saw whores in the windows. I heard that the government is passing a bill to end the trade due to the girls not getting much business from the patrons. So next year, we might not see them anymore. Not that I am going back there any time soon. I got high though it was uncomfortable sitting in the 'coffeeshop' with a bunch of strangers who are mostly tourists based on the language they were speaking. I only smoked half the joint but I was stoned and it felt good but I could tell I was a mess. I visited Anne Frank's museum, rode the bike to Heemstede, ate haring, tasted lots of cheese, drank Heinekken and other beers but didn't score any Dutch cock! The city is full of attractive men yet I didn't have any! I went to The Church hoping to meet an attractive local alas none of the patrons are at par to what I've seen on the streets of Amsterdam. I went Thursday night which has a mixed crowd of men and women. It's pretty small club with a dance floor on the main floor, toilet and glory holes in the basement, and a dark room with a big bed on 2nd floor. I watched as an attractive guy's bare bum was being spanked by a girl, a black guy's cock was being sucked off by two mature white guys and a naked sexy Latino-looking guy was wanking himself. I was raised a Catholic but that was not the kind of church I was accustomed to. 
Paris. I stayed with my Airbnb host in his two-bedroom apartment which is a good location with plenty of shops nearby and although it's just next to the Metro, the Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame are within walking distance. My host is in his 40's I think and likes to walk around in the apartment in his underwear. That's his pic getting my milk in the fridge as he always prepared my breakfast everyday. First thing I did on my first night was checked out the shower show at Raidd Bar. It was Sunday 11pm when I went and they had the sign 'shower show' at the door reminding patrons that there is one, lol. Tiny club selling 10euros for a pint of beer -- I felt ripped off. I noticed a few solo travelers like me who was there for a perve. When the show started at 12.15am, I was disappointed because I thought the guy was ugly! I didn't even watch what he was doing yet the crowd cheered and pulled their phones recording it and I'm like, 'oh come on Paris is that the best you can offer?'. The show was over in 3 minutes. Will there be another show after that? and what time? I didn't care and left, along with half a dozen other patrons, after finishing my second pint of beer. Perhaps I went the wrong day? But if you're promoting a show like that and charging people that expensive beer, at least make it satisfactory. I must say that Paris' Raidd pales in comparison to Montreal's Campus/Stockbar. I did the usual touristy stuff which was more enjoyable than Raidd -- the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre (i didn't go in), Versailles (i was in the queue for two hours!), Notre Damaged, Arc de Triomphe and took the boat tour on the Seine. Then on my last day I took the train to Charles de Gaulle which was cancelled halfway to the airport. The announcement was in French with no translation and I was panicking. I approached the best looking passenger to ask questions and thankfully he speaks perfect English. Thankfully too he was going to the airport like me. He booked an Uber and told me I can join him if I like. I offered to pay which at first he refused but I insisted so I gave him euro10. I also asked to suck his cock but he graciously declined. I was kidding, I didn't have the nerve, hahahaha. Anyway, we've swapped details and we're now Facebook friends. Good thing came out of the bad thing.
Barcelona. Thermas, Thermas y Thermas! I arrived 11pm in Barcelona and as soon as I unpacked, I went straight to Boysbar. The place is dead so after finishing my beer I headed to Thermas. Although I learned from this site's expert travellers that that is not the best time to go as everyone has left, I still went. After visiting 3 cities without sucking any cocks, I was intent on having my first one that night. I should not have gone. The receptionist advised me that the guys will be expected to be paid for sex, to which I said cool. When I asked him how many were there, he said there were 15 guys. I went down and it was practically empty with most of the cabins locked from the inside obviously being used for sleeping. There were three ugly guys chatting and one of them saw me and really harassed me for business. Apparently no does not always mean no to most of them. I headed upstairs to change to call it a night but then I saw Leonardo (i think that's his name) a muscly attractive Brazilian. He'll do, I said to myself. He said he'd give me a massage but he was lousy so I said I'd suck his dick but it stayed limp. I've wasted euro100 that night for nothing so I went back to my place. The next day I did touristy stuff and had lunch at Santa Caterina Market, then back to my place for siesta, and at 6pm went to Thermas. The number of guys have improved and they are better looking too. I wanted to go with the Venezuelan guy but he hardly spoke English so I chose the Peruvian/Californian guy who's handsome and speaks English. I found that I am more attracted to a guy whom I have some sort of connection with. We chatted for about half an hour and bought him a beer. He said that he had two sessions already but he'd like another one so he said he would let me suck his cock with cum, which usually is euro100, but will only charge me euro50. Before we went inside the cabin I asked him to clean his arsehole because I want to eat it, which he did but when I went down there it still smells a bit. I sucked him and his erect dick felt good in my mouth and then he announced that he's about to cum and took it out of my mouth because (a) i want to see the cumshot and (b) i never like the taste of cum - even on a hot guy. He asked if I wanted to cum and I said sure that'd be nice. He started sucking but it was not good so I asked that he kissed me while I do it myself. Not the best breath on him and I think I smelt a hint of marijuana too (later on he admitted that he smoked marijuana with a client). I should have given him some mints but they were in the locker upstairs. When I gave him the E50 that's when I noticed how bloodshot his eyes were. Although I already came I decided to stay and check out the boys. The Venezuelan dude approached me again and this time he removed his towel and invited my left hand to feel his member. It felt good and right then and there I wanted to take him to a cabin but again I said no. He said that was okay and stood up and left. A short while later, a Brazilian guy joined me who said would charge me only E40 and because I have good lips he'd kiss me as well. I said yes immediately. In the cabin we started kissing but his breath wasn't fresh (damn those mints are no good inside my locker). I sucked him and he came and he told me it would be E80 because he gave me milk. I told him I only have E40 so that's what I gave him. What's with these guys wanting more money for doing little work. I called it a day after that. The next day I went back again and met a Romanian guy. The quoted price is E50 suck and kiss and this time I offered my mints but he declined. I said come one, they're from London but again he said no. Once inside, I started with his dick which despite him moaning did not stand to attention. I got tired so we started to kiss. He was good and his breath was fresh so there was a lot of tongue. I climaxed within minutes but we continued to kiss. When I saw him upstairs to give the money I saw in natural light how good looking he really is. I wished it wasn't my last night in Barcelona because I would like to see him again. 
Thank you all for reading this and I'm sorry I got carried away I didn't realise it has gotten so long.

Day 5:
I went to the Mercado de Las Pulgas in Usaquen. It was actually really nice to see different types of products. I eventually got my first taste of Jugo de Lulo, Chirimoya, Mamoncillo, and Anon (certainly an easy name to remember). It was amazing how many exotic fruits Colombia has. I think I bought too much, so there's no room for other fruits (in retrospect, I really should just get one of each). Lunch was at Boho. I find that the price there was only slightly cheaper than comparable stuff in Canada. So I was like how were local Colombians able to afford that? I understand that Bogota is the capital of the country, but definitely not everyone there was tourist from abroad. I find that the weather tends to be much nicer in the morning because it was pouring in the afternoon. Thank god I got into a cab before it really started to pour. 
I had nothing else to do since it was pouring outside. I turned on grindr for sure. Being the exotic guy here certainly has its benefit. I am the rarer species than whites. Bingo. This Cali mixed guy that works for an American company invited me out for cafe/light dinner. That's just perfect. He knows both English and Spanish, so the opportunity of being able to learn Spanish is just too good to pass up, so I was like right on. We talked about a lot of things including the social class, gay culture, things to do, and how to learn Spanish. No sex and I suppose there's just no mutual chemistry, but the convo was great, and I will never say no to a Spanish class.
However, things brightened up very quickly when I got back to my room. This young guy in his 20s originally from Pereira wanted to meet, so I was like who was I to say no to a Paisa guy. 178cm tall and 65kg. 20 cm I believe. Perfect size. Communication was easy because he was learning English in the UK for almost a year. I also find that guys that speak English tend to be safer and of high social class here in Bogota. I could be wrong on this. He almost got hard instantly and we made out and did all the naughty things together. I must say that topping seems to be 2nd nature to the Paisa guys. They can be soft spoken, but as soon as they are in bed and starting to make out, it's a different story. The ones I have had so far all like to be in the driver's seat and really take control. They would give you a couple minutes to warm up, but after that, I am their bitch. They just pounded ignoring your begging and screaming. He also had really stamina. He pounded me for a good 30 minutes and after a deep moaning, he shot a huge load into the condom that almost overflew. Damn, I have to say I am kinda hooked on Paisa men. I also find that Paisa guys tend to have light skin tone and higher statue. 

Ive been a few times. Thursday, Fridays and Saturdays, all busy from midnight/1am onwards. There used to be a darkroom downstairs but that's closed now I believe. Three large bathrooms downstairs which are used for playing i think. Ive never seen a stripper there to be honest, I wonder if that's just the images they use to promote makes it look like there are strippers. Ive taken a few guys home after buying them a few drinks, 40euro was fine with all of them. Id watch your belongings. All the guys I had fun with were Albanian and spoke good english. All were beautiful, but maybe a little more rough around the edges than the guys on the fabeook page! 

Finally booked my flights. Arrive in Mexico City on October 28 and return home to SF on November 5. Decided I want to be there for día dos muertes weekend. Nine days should be enough time for all the sexual, political and cultural activities I want to experience. Wish me a fab time!

Theres a real mix of guys at Bizzar, the staff are so welcoming there and will tell you to let them know if you spot someone you like etc. There was once a hunk of a barman working there, I believe straight, or gay for pay', he once stripped to just a jockstrap and flashed me his hole whilst serving me a beer. Good times!  

I have done a little research and here info.
https://www.facebook.com/samisbarathens/
Filis 34 (5,031.70 mi)
Athens, Greece 104 33
https://www.facebook.com/Test-Me-288424211616001/
Πιπίνου 64 (5,031.48 mi)
Athens, Greece 11251
https://www.facebook.com/bizzarathensclub/
Πατησίων & Δεριγνύ 20 (5,031.67 mi)
Athens, Greece 10434
I have not been to any of these places and would really like to hear about your observations and comments. Making plans to visit sometime in 2020. 
Bizzar Club looks very interesting to me and would love to know more.
Thank you very much
 
 
 
 
 
 

I wonder if the boys at Bizzar look anything like the ads, which feature N Europeans.

Put me in the line to buy some shares of the sauna if TomCal take over the management. It would become “the Mecca” of the boys... Would be compulsory to every gay guy to go there at least once during their lifetime ...

I thought it was just me. I’m glad to read there’s another poster who has issues with the dim lighting at Sauna Thermas. 
I enjoyed my week at Thermas, and I’m making another one within the month. Howeve, those of us who have trouble with adjusting their vision to dark spaces will have a tougher time of it. I prefer well-lit areas, especially when it comes to selecting someone who I need to be visually and physically turned on by for a romp. I totally hate dark rooms for that very reason (and experience has taught me that the less physically appealing the prospect, the more they prefer dim lighting). 
It took me a few days to adjust to the lack of lighting in the cruise areas and the bar areas of the sauna. Even the stairwells were dark. However, after the rough vision adjustment, I enjoyed the sauna. Outside of Brazil, it’s the best of its kind. And yes, the UN variety is a plus.

the best time to go has never changed in the 18 years i have been going to Brazilian saunas imho! 5:30 to 9:00 is the peak time for the guys! i usually get there at 5:00 so i can see the guys as they come in and have a drank and survey the “landscape”!  usually drag queen shows are around 9:00 give or take a 1/2,hour depending on the sauna!  
Also remember that the guys have to stay a minimum of 3-1/2 hours, so if they want to get out by 9:00 pm they have to get there by 5:30!  Lagoa SP tends to get full of Garotos around 6:00 - to 6::30

SInce the day i went to live to Brazil, I have been posting some regular detailed reports about the situation of Brazilian saunas. From now on I am going to provide the smallest amount of what i believe it is the most helpful information to let you decide where to go and when, and what you''ll fine in there. The reports are based on the last 3 months (Apr-June)
RJ-117 (typically toned to muscular very good-looking guys, great facilities) - Best day is still tuesday (free suites). Monday closed. Saturdays, Sundays and Thursdays are still worth to visit (in this order). Fridays are hit or miss. Wednesdays are slow.
RJ-202 (typycally a mixture between good-looking toned guys, and twinks, good facilities) - Best day is Wednesday (free suites). Tuesday closed. Friday (free suites) and Monday are worth a visit (in this order). Other days are slow
RJ-NMM - Just forget
SP-Lagoa (same description ad RJ-117, more model-looking guys, more gay looking guys) - Best day is Friday. Saturdays, Sundays and Wednesdays are IMHO worth a visit (in this order). Other days are slow
SP-Fragata - Just skip
BH-Olimpo - Cannot compare to other saunas because of the size. Hit or miss every day, but beautiful place where I always had at least one great encounter each day i went in there.
PA-General - To me the sauna scene is dead in there....or at least on an halt.

I had my first and only European Grindr hire in Madrid several months ago, his place. It was close to a lifetime low payment relative to quality. I was skeptical about the €50 quote because the photos he sent depicted a tall gorgeous Mexican muscle stud, the same dreamboat who opened the door, one of the most perfect sculpted bodies with which I have had contact, big and hard everywhere. The pics and fee were accurate, and he was sweet and unrushed to boot.
We were both within a few blocks of Adan. Maybe that partly accounted for the bargain. 
Sometimes life hands you lemonade.

Thank you Floridarob  for the list of prices one expects to pay.
The price for an escort in  Barcelona was around Euro 50, but only at the Thermos Sauna.
On the gaysites or Grinder it was closer to Euro100
 

This is a question I would never answer.  Not because I think not relevant but I do not want to embarrass myself and sometimes my little head thinks more than my big head.
NYC - ouch
Thailand Virgin - OMG
Brazil Model - What was I thinking
 

You said saunas, plural.  I don't think people on this forum would likely visit more than one sauna in Barcelona - Sauna Thermas.
Sauna Thermas is the only true hustler sauna in Barcelona.  It  has been operating about the same since it was remodeled several years ago.  Most people, including me,  like the place.
You will find a variety of guys from various countries.  
There are some regular gay saunas in Barcelona.  I have not been to any of them.  I heard the regular gay saunas are nice.  
 

Look, toots, I could get repetitive strain injury writing pages upon pages but I am not going to fall into that trap. You are being somewhat obsessional and want it all laid out perfectly. The working guys would be herniating themselves in stitches over this exchange.
The sauna brothels such as Clube 117 are fairly structured. You pay the house for 30 minutes of room use and the garotos are accustomed to using up the time. With a shower before and after, the time flies. You won"t likely get a break from the house if you go over the limit even by a few minutes ... they will charge for two periods, unless you are well known or able to wear them down, as most Cariocas or repeat visitors would.
On free cabin nights only the first period is usually gratis. The privilege resets when you vacate the room. I often do an hour any time because I do not like to rush and often the guy will accept a small extra ... for example 30 minutes 125-150 translates negotiably to 60 minutes 180-200. That works for me cuz I generally do not see two guys I must have, prefer one robust orgasm, and make contact for a deferred date if another guy captures my interest. 
Social time with prostitutes onsite outside of the private room costs nothing but possibly optional refreshments. A lot of that interaction can be quasi-erotic if the client wants and the garoto knows he will get a programa.
There is no "short", only the conventional 30 minutes. "Long" is 35 minutes to infinity, there, "love motel", accommodations, etc, with a limitless array of price and sexual choreography contingencies. I have completed a few dozen versions of arrangements and have barely grazed the surface of the dating vistas beyond dinner and sex. It would be insane to stratify and categorize. 
Frankly, since you seem to be asking for advice, and do not speak the language, I suggest you stick to the two venues in your neighbourhood, possibly also Point 202, for at least a week, getting the lay of the land, ramping up some skills with respect to the smooth-operator games that may become evident, and not committing quickly to one guy. You seem anxious to quickly replicate your Thai-based playbook and I doubt I am the only reader who suspects this is unrealistic and naïve.
The go-to staffperson at 117, if you need support, is likely young little Patrick J, if still employed there. He is low in the hierarchy, usually pushing a broom, but warm-hearted, no attitude, whip-smart, and completely bilingual. I usually spend minimum 25 tipping the group of cleaners, distributing according to whim. 

I was there in November, each time on a Saturday and found plenty of guys to my liking.  Like others have reported, mostly Brazilians and other South Americans.  A couple of Eastern Europeans, and 1 African.  I think each day I got there around 6PM or 7PM and there were more guys there when I got there  than by the time I left... maybe 15 working guys and only 5 clients. 

There is a very comprehensive, informative, creative, and extremely recent thread on this same board, initiated by @Latbear4blk Its title is Ciudad de México, CD MEX, April 13-19. You will find LOTS of  very useful information there. Good luck, @germark01

After Carnaval a few years back-- about 20+ male tourists from different parts of the world with the majority being Americanos and an equal number of escorts/garotos, boarded a boat in "The Green Isle," two hours south of Rio and had one hell of a day.  Many of the escorts danced and played; a few got buck naked and paraded their charms.  A photographer on board took photographs of the guys who had the biggest cocks, and  I managed to meet up with one of the biggest, if not the biggest, back in my hotel room prior to my going to a Gay Ball later that evening. 
...a time that I shall always remember and would like to repeat! 

... I kinda love you for this line!

Just spent a few hours here!  My first trip to Barcelona and what a wonderful time I had.   I hooked up with two porn star quality guys.  €50 is still the going rate for a session but obviously no orgasm from them.   I tipped some on top for excellent treatment.   My first guy was from Egypt and he could be Nyle DiMarco’s twin brother.   His cock was almost too thick to handle.   Very dominant and assertive and kind.   A quick smile which I love.    My second encounter was a white guy from Greece.  Tall and a touch lanky.  He could easily be hired by bel ami studios.   And the most delicious cock.   Another kind man.    I went on Friday night around 6 and left around 8:30.  I would say about 20 or so escorts. Maybe more.  And nearly that many customers.   Sauna was clean and fairly large.   I can’t remember the price I paid to enter as I was too excited.    Lots of exposed hard cocks.   Lots and lots of sexy guys from all over.   I’ll head back tomorrow and meet up with a few of the sexy African guys there.