Olddaddy

Taiwan is closed ?? 😳😳 I knew China was but didn't know Taiwan was too. I think it's time for me to "explore" other places

You don't get lonely by yourself? Do you care for yourself?

Next year in all probability I will skip Thailand, too businesslike in terms of sex now ,and getting expensive Taiwan will probably top my list of visiting. Haven't tried African countries yet

Yes my birthday yesterday, unfortunately I celebrated it by myself with greetings from friends over WhatsApp. But such is life when your travelling

Great point though, probably a lot of free guys wanting to experience with an older guy plus the Gay4pay straight boys needing money

Well for some of you it's only yearly trips ,so If your departing the next morning or next day for your home country,do you do anything unusual or by routine? Do you go out and rage that last night,off several boys and orgy or stay up all night in bars if you have a early morning departure? Those of you who visit Pattaya do you make your last night in Bangkok to be closer to the airport? Anything routinely you do on your last day/ night?

Everyone I met in the pH spoke English, especially the young ones . If I had my time again there I would walk around see the shirtless boys ask them for a pic with me for 100 pesos and take it from there . Plenty of guys

Strangely I used to be a night owl too,always stayed up late even worked the night shifts! Nowadays even on vacation I'm in bed by midnight most nights. I keep myself fit ,overdo the gym,drink protein,( I mean the powdered form😂) take vitamins and still I feel sleepy at night I would imagine how I would be if I drank alcohol,abused my body with junk food etc

Thailand is not cheap for sex if you count the Go Go bar drink prices, the boy off fees and even the guys wanting 3k for short time in some places .

I used mostly the apps last month when I was in the Philippines. But all the boys speak English there .

Now 6 weeks into my 7 week vacation, the last few weeks I have really slowed down and I feel guilty. At 62yo I just it seems,don't have the stamina anymore to keep " fucking" ,to keep taking guys back to the room whether they are paid or free ,in fact last night I ordered pizza in my hotel room and watched a movie ,all alone ! I envy you guy on here who can take 3 guys everyday,who can rage all night at different go Go bars ,how do you do it? I'm gym fit, I eat well, I'm even taking extra vitamin and staying off the alcohol ,but I can't do it everyday anymore !!!! I'm really getting depressed about it, Can I ask honestly,do you guys on your vacation go out every night to bars,do you take guys everyday for sex? Did you drink alcohol everyday in the bars too? I don't know how you guys have the stamina ,at 62 my body won't let me ,I tried it the first week, went to gym in the morning , sightseeing during the day and walking, go Go bars,alcohol , discos ,then boys at night ,by the second week I was in bed a few days sick !!! In a way im a bit depressing I can't do what I used to 15 years ago where I sort of lived to the fullest my vacation time How do you guys have sex with multiple guys everyday on your vacation! Look to be honest with you guys,I would never do such a long vacation again,7 weeks is just far too long! I hate to say it but boredom does come into sometimes when on such a long vacation time. Oh I'm getting too old 👴👴👴👴🤣🤣🤣 .

You must be ..big..🤣🤣 He couldn't take it , Mai pen Rai We win some,we lose some

Yes exactly!!! Someone told me about this video chat on Grindr? But I cannot find it?Anyone know? otherwise use line or WhatsApp video and call them first to see,save you a lot of grief especially if a ladyboy or 60yo man turns up instead of the 22yo moneyboy

I guess it can happen anywhere, Its hard to "screen" them sometimes, I try to talk to the boy in a go go bar before offing them though, it costs a drink but it's best to do that . As for Grindr I will now use the video call to see them, caught a few out who were really 45 and not 25 Now I'm no spring chicken so have to be a bit wary of guys on Grindr offering free service, obviously if they're over 45 it's more trustworthy but guys 25 saying their free ?

This trip I have had only around 3 or 4 duds . Not bad with the amount I boys I have taken over the last 6 weeks . Now I guess technically I was " conned" on one boy,my stupid fault ! I was drunk and he was extremely good-looking, great talker & smile. Offed him from a massage 500b ,he had a big dick, everything I wanted from a top Once back in the room he couldn't get it up, but we tried to do other things unfortunately his phone kept ringing , mamasan at the massage place, now technically I paid him for the hour, his massage was not good and he tried to rush me ,about 30 minutes service out of 1 hour ,no sex as he was flaccid puffy cock with some silicone , So I still tipped him the agreed price of 1500.,waste of 2000 altogether though more my fault as I was drunk, and I guess he used that to his advantage. Second one a Grindr guy turns up at my hotel, unfortunately wasn't him in the pics, he finally agreed it wasn't him and his "bar" where he worked ,boy busy they send me he says . He was like 35 and feminine compared to the boy in the pics who was 25 manly with tatts ,gave him 100b as he was angry and closed the door ,he demanded 500,you pay me 500 ok he is shouting in hotel Now guys I was told that on the Grindr app you can actually video call free ?¿?? So I will try this if it's possible? Third guy i got from a Go Go bar seemed nice n sweet,polite Cut a long story short , caught him rummaging thru my clothes,pretended I didn't see him as they were only the dirty laundry.Another farang I spoke to later at a bar suggested he was only interested in me and was trying to find out more information 4th guy was 45yo was supposed to be free even put it in his profile no money boys ,got him from Grindr , I ended up giving him the pleasure,sucking his dick ,rimming him etc ,he cum and after shower asked me for money for taxi which I didn't mind maybe 100,but unfortunately I never saw a Grab at 1000 baht ! Now this is a very small percentage and you have to expect at least some negative percentage. I know CHRISTIAN would do a graph on this 🤣🤣🤣but I think it's like 4%

I guess say if you lived here (expat) in Pattaya say on a "mature aged pension" (sounds PC, rather than say old age pension😂) then it would be a bit difficult paying those sort of prices all the time .

Guess I should add the Philippines Lots & lots of Gay4pay guys mostly all Top (Manila) expect around the 1000-2000 peso mark .and less ,all gay apps ,many straight ,looking for extra money Other cities ,Gensen ,Davao ,Cebu ,many guys available many wanted from 500 peso to 1500 peso but mostly in the lower range If your a top in the Philippines you will probably get for free ,a lot of Filipino guys just asking taxi money but if your a bottom like me and want straight guys then they call themselves "for hire" The thing is unless your a social type guy it's mostly all gay apps,

Sorry ,you just have the same attitude as John,though you were him ! My bad

Great point , I guess not really nowadays as much . But I was just talking to a old time boy in jomtien complex who told me not many farangs because prices are rising too much established by bar owners etc ,he is a freelancer.l,but beers 120b in beer bars etc he mentioned that was keeping expats at home while go Go bars 250 etc Can I ask the rough price for sex in Guatemala? And other places

You aren't John are you? The guy who sat next to the boy I was drinking with and completely ignored me?

Whilst Thailand is still a cheap place for Gay4Pay sex encounters,it's service cost is rising So by the time you buy a drink, boy drink ,off fee I see now in Pattaya at some place 500/600 plus the boy tip etc it can be costly every night,unless of course you can negotiate over the apps . So where are the cheapest Gay4pay countries?

The ironic thing is back in 2009 when that middle aged Belgium guy done that to me in corner bar,U actually used reverse psychology by talking to the Farang who was a expat and buying him a drink, suddenly he didn't want to know the boy anymore and I ignored the boy after that

But there's a difference you mention. Your not approaching the boy ! If your sitting with a boy ( in a beer bar) ,bought him a drink and was sitting next to him chatting and I came along sat on the other side and either started talking to him or bought him a drink, that's the difference

I don't have deep conversation with them about the sex life of ants on Africa...it's usually where U come from? Etc

I can't understand what this person was thinking unless he thought you left? But when he seen you come back he still sat there? I don't understand why