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I visited AA with a boy Id originally picked up in Screw Boy BKK. He'd been an inmate of the young offender prison in Chiang Mai for a couple of years for selling yaba. He knew most if the boys on stage as fellow former inmates.
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Bar was Good Boys. the Sukhothai used to be Babylon's waiting room with just as much action in the steam room. Alas no longer, a gay desert today. I have a fond memory of in room massage from the spa there too back in the 90s. The masseur did a commendable job on my back and buttocks and then slid his erect cock into me. It seemed rude to protest and he unloaded BB into me which did annoy me slightly. I asked him to accompany me to a private clinic near Paragon for an HIV test which he happily did. He also expected a well earned substantial tip! The pool at the Sukhothai is great, but then the Voco offers an excellent pool too. I always enjoy the Thai food at the Sukhothai, but it comes at a price. The restaurant manager at the Voco was happy to request the chef to prepare a favorite off menu Thai dish to order. I'd choose the Voco over the Sukhothai.
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Great hotel. No hassles with visitors. Great lap pool. I stayed at Sukhothai Hotel past week - double the price. Voco is almost comparable in terms of comfort. i found it more fun to meet boys on grindr. Just made it clear that id pay 200 for taxi if not what I was looking for. The bars are dire. I also got scammed in one bar where they claimed I'd given a 100 instead of 1000. Just not worth the hassle.
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I'm in BKK now. Staying at Voco on Suriwong - excellent value btw and a good base. Flew in in Air India £2400 business return bought at the ticket desk at LHR. I was waiting for a flight to BCN to get fucked raw in Thermas for a few days and somehow thought Bangkok might be fun after a 12 year absence. i've visited BKK over 100 times since the mid 80s. I'd consider myself comfortably well off - i sold my business years ago and live well of property and other investments. The bars used to be teeming and relatively good value. But 400b for drinks is absurd imo. Sut with three or four boys, buy a couple of rounds, choose one or two to take off (expectations of 3k ea) and tip the others 200/300 ea and you've spaffed £300 to £350 by the time you've showered the spunk off your face It may be cheap by UK standards but It's put me right off when there's plenty of boys on grindr for 1500-2500 i've had a fun time, but raiding the atm for 20k at a time almost daily is absurd. I have much more fun in PP or KL (just host a party) and for far less. It's a shame as Ive fond memories of BKK way back to Garden Bar and Harry's days in soi 2.
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Any favorable experiences in subsaharan Africa?
Frenchfrank replied to ImpCaes's topic in Gay Africa
I agree with your observations on Thailand. i visited N Iraq a few times about 14 years ago. It was a paradise. On one occasion I hooked up with five guys who formed a pecking order to fuck me in turn. I had to bring off the last two orally as my arse was pounded to oblivion. -
The going rate in 1985 was 300b short time, 500 overnight. I lived with a few boys from a Silo lm bar as a 19 yo backpacker. Adjusted for inflation that would be 1500 and 2500 respectively. That said, the boys in 1985 were younger, fitter and far more charming than most you'll meet in Bkk today.
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I tried Hatha Khmer last week. I chose a guy and went to the room. And waited. And waited. The staff seemed half asleep. I got dressed and left. I have no idea to this day how this place survives as a business.
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I found a new favorite bar in Phnom Penh :-)
Frenchfrank replied to Frenchfrank's topic in Gay Cambodia
I checked out POC bar. The most lugubrious joint I've visited in decades of whoring. 30$ for a beer after I invited one 'host' to have a drink, only to have several mute and unappealing locals sit down with drinks that ended up on my tab. Not worth arguing over. Just avoid. Never again -
I stayed past week. It's excellent. 5 star guesthouse and with the spa and massage boys there's plenty of fun to be had.
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I found a new favorite bar in Phnom Penh :-)
Frenchfrank replied to Frenchfrank's topic in Gay Cambodia
Soma is a regular masssage shop with above average prices just off Riverside i won't say too much, other than the masseur was very skilled, knew some very deep massage techniques and gave me a very full filling experience I tipped 30 us, such was my satisfaction -
Morrocco in the case of Men Spa
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I had massage at M Factory, a 5 minute Grab ride from the hotel. I enjoyed a very satisying massage there.......
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My Etihad flight from Athens to KL allowed a free two night stopover with limo service in Abu Dhabi (business class flight). I downloaded a VPN and Grindr lit up like a Christmas tree. i tried a massage place 'Men Spa' and wasnt disappointed.....
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I was en toute to Phnom Penh and stopped in KL to break the journey. All major 5 star hotels were fully booled with the ASEAN conference. I opted for a couple of nights at the KSL Esplanade hotel in Klang. About 45 mins fr KLIA. the onsen is not gay. But I reckon 80 % of patrons are gay, many bi/ married. lots of eye candy. Not a place for action but lots of opportunities to hook up if staying at the hotel. i had a lot of fun. Boring as hell aside from the onsen though. Good spa too.
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I traveled here via Athens, Abu Dhabi then a few dsys near KL. in PP Im staying at Artgur and Paul (excellent choice, btw) and a guy at pool recommended a bar "Asia Cam Bar" about a mile away. The crowd was youngish, mixture of a few foreigners and a few 20 ish muscle types and some very, very 'me' twinks. I suspect some of the locals were looking for money, but it seemed non commercial. The music not so loud I chatted with a visiting Oz guy over a few Stoli martinis, made per instruction. A brought a slim, hopelessly cute twink back. He turned out to be a most enthusiastic, well equipped top. We parted company after a dreamy long cuddle covered in what felt like half a pint of cum. The whole vibe reminded me of Bangkok in the 80s. No money was demanded but a tip of $30 was obviously ecpected and graciously accepted. I'm in heaven. I will cherish that look of angelic ecstasy as the lad released his load forever. I also tried Soma Spa near Riverside. More (recommended, more on that later). I used to be pure top, but age and these Khmer boys is turning me into a cock hungry bottom. Thank heavens for PreP!
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Paris Sauna - IDM or Sun City?
Frenchfrank replied to hojacat's topic in European Men and Destinations
The Continental closed in the late 1980s to make way for a car park for a Japanese company. Reminded me of the Counting Crows song 😞 -
I usually have no trouble in picking up guys anywhere in the world. Even Iraq, where I had more cock than I could handle. But a recent trip to Gambia drew a blank. Horrible little country, covered in litter with very dirty beaches and mediocre hotels. I did visit Sierra Leone in the 80s, where there were numerous possibilities, i'd be interested to know if there was still fun readily available?
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I have to agree. I had more sex on Iraq than I did in Thailand.
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I used to own an estate agency in London. I remember valuing the VG property for rental. The owner was an E European origin lady. She insisted her run down property was perfect for investment bankers with deep pockets. I pointed out that this part of Earls Ct was considered a bit sleazy for many and her property needed major work to bring it to standard for that market. And that there was a male brothel next door (Earls Court Clinique - for those that remember). She acted horrified. A few months later I discover she's rented it out as a brothel!
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Grindr works just fine. Always check if they want money though. Hotel saunas are my favourite pick up places. Gat saunas are active too.
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I flew from London on MH, booking economy return. I managed to upgrade both legs on MH Upgrade for £800 each way - pretty good value. The nicer hotels in KL have spas (sauna, steam, jacuzzi etc) for guests, usually with outside memberships. Notable examples are Mandarin Oriental, Hilton/Meridien, Shangrila, Grand Hyatt and Sheraton. They can all be very active for hook ups. Weekends are especially fun as Malaysians like to do KL staycations and other Asians hop over for a cheap weekend. KL hotels are absurdly good value compared to other Asian cities. There's plenty of rent boys on Grindr. Always ask if they are MB (money boy). Some non pros will just ask for 100-150 myr to help them out, the pros ask 250-400myr. No issues bringing guests to rooms. Ive stayed at all the above hotels over the years. I tried the massage place in Fahrenheit 88. Boy fucked me beautifully after nice massage for a decent tip. No luck in other 'mens' spas' - not even HE. Some of the skankier straight massage places on Bukit Bintang have masseurs keen to play. It's pot luck though. Use your gaydar before agreeing for massage. If they tout for body massage, not foot, then it's more likely they're looking to play and earn a tip. 50myr is enough.
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I contacted a couple of masseurs there and was quoted circa £200 for an hour at a hotel - the lad started nearer £300. I declined. I was en route to KL where similar Indonesian lads will readily accept £50 or less.
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I was in Athens last week. Omonia was again a disappointment. I met one Egyptian who was a great top. Promised 30e but I increased the offer mid flow to 50e if he slowed down a bit. Worth it. Victoria was too cliquey and little of interest. Had a Greek lad but not really me.
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No problem I suspect
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I prefer to keep some things as a surprise. One pleasant surprise is worth several disappointments.