newtobangkok123

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

Thank you everybody for your kind words and especially @macaroni21 for the detailed reply! All my questions are answered, and I fully understand what to do and what to pay. Now I just need to work up the nerve to try.. I'm currently in Phuket (Bangkok is coming up, and where I plan to start), but even walking by the massage places here was a little daunting. All the boys outside looked so bored.. and a little older than I was expecting. 

Thank you everybody for your kind words and especially @macaroni21 for the detailed reply! All my questions are answered, and I fully understand what to do and what to pay. Now I just need to work up the nerve to try.. I'm currently in Phuket (Bangkok is coming up, and where I plan to start), but even walking by the massage places here was a little daunting. All the boys outside looked so bored.. and a little older than I was expecting. 

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

@newtobangkok123 in Thailand's massage parlours, whether it's a place primarily for legit massages or one primarily for erotic massages, the client makes two payments. The first is to the shop. The amount will be based on the their price list depending on the service you choose. You know that already. Some shops require you to pay before the session begins, other shops are happy to take payment (for the shop) after the session.
The second payment is directly from you to the service provider. It is always made AFTER the session. Your chief question is how to know how much.
First of all, not all massage places publish minimum tips. Some do, some don't. Legit massage places almost never publish minimum tips. Erotic massage places mostly do nowadays, or if they do not publish them publicly, the receptionist will whisper to you as you pay the shop's fee. Or, there will be something stated as a footnote on the menu card. Just be alert and pay attention. The rule of thumb is that any place with a stated minimum, however stated - whether publicly published, whispered or footnoted - you can assume to be an erotic massage place where the service provider expects that you would want a happy ending, or at least to get hard.
So, to your question: Once I know the minimum tip, does this tip include the happy ending?  the answer is Yes. Also, even if you decline the offer of a happy ending during the session, the minimum applies. That's simple enough
However, regular visitors to massage parlours do not always pay just the minimum. The "how much" gets trickier. If it's a handjob, something like the minimum, plus a bit more (20%?) if you're orgasmically over the moon, will be fine. But if it was mediocre, just pay the minimum. More often than not, there is no discussion about handjobs; the service provider proceeds towards it, and you have to stop him if you do not want the session to go in that direction.
If you're into plugging holes, you will probably be having a brief discussion in the room regarding who does what to whose hole, and in the course of that discussion, the service provider may mention a figure perhaps 25-50% higher than the previously stated minimum. Naturally, if you agree, that's the new minimum for your session. (If he quotes a new figure that is 75 - 100% above the pre-session minimum, I am likely to turn it down, as such a high mark-up probably indicates an unwillingness to go that route.) Whatever you've agreed, you can tip another 20-30% more above that new minimum if you're intoxicated with delight from his services (but they don't expect that). If for some reason, there is no discussion about any new minimum, then if he bottoms, you can still use the above percentages as a guide, i.e. anything from 25 - 50% above the minimum that was stated pre-session. If he tops. I think the pre-session minimum is still the reference level (but this is not an area I am familiar with).
If it's a legit massage, my practice is to think in terms of maximum tip and then discount from there. If it was an excellent legit massage, I would apply the maximum, which would be an amount for the service provider that is the same quantum as what the shop charged for the session. However, if it was legit, but substandard, then I start discounting from the maximum. Example: I book a legit massage for 700 baht. If the guy delivers a very good massage, he gets 700 too. If not so good, then 600, or 500 and so on.
What happens if, in what looks like a legit place, the service provider also delivers a handjob in the privacy of the room? If there was a discussion in the room, then all's clear. If no discussion, then I tend to tip some kind of industry average for handjob, which, in Bangkok (since you asked about Bangkok), may be in the 1000 - 1200 range.
As with all conversations about appropriate tips, this post is going to get wild reactions from other members of the board. Some will say my ranges are too high and I am spoiling the market. More likely, others will pick up a megaphone and decry what a cheapskate I am. Without knowing who I am or which country I come from, they will say that (a) I come from a rich country, (b) I am perforce rich, and (c) I am a disgrace to humanity for failing to throw money around like Mansa Musa on his pilgrimage to Mecca.
All I can say is that my rules of thumb have worked for the hundreds of massages I have had over decades, and no service provider has said - not to my face at least - I tip too little. I simply don't believe in bragging about my wealth (if any) by showing off. I was raised by parents who taught me that showing off is very crass.

Just to add a bit to the comprehensive reply from @macaroni21 above.
Specifically with regard to legit massage place. As prime massage is the favorite place in silom for many,  it is a legit place that has a minimum tips stated in their menu. It is only 100 baht tips. Thus, if u see such a low minimum tips in any massage shop, its most likely tip for just the massage and nothing more. 
On the other hand, for sexual massage places, like Arena for example, has indicated in their website whats their minimum tips entails, a HJ and shower with masseur at the end. Recent visit there, after my session, the manager asked me to fill in a rating slip, and one of the question is did the masseur shower with you.
I agree that the tip range for services is a heated topic so im just stating the few cases where the shop actually spell out what u get for min tip. Some even spell out min tip for soft and hard. I wish more shop will do so.

Some good advice here; I hope newtobangkok12 feels that his questions have been answered.
As a general point, we should be welcoming newbies both to Gay Thailand and to this forum. Neither will survive without such people.

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

If a massage parlour does not specify a minimum tip, does that mean it is not "that kind" of parlour? 

Yes I read it and lots of other stuff, but I still didn't understand, so I asked a question to clarify. 
I'm still not clear on whether parlours that do not ask for tips are "that kind" of parlour, hence my follow-up question.
The forum is currently accepting new registrations so I did not think being a new member was a problem. I apologize.

I'll be going to Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks. I've been reading up on the massages, and I'm still confused how this works. I'd love some clarification and if anyone wants to recommend a good place I'd love to check it out! 
So: The price list says "thai massage 500 body 2 body 1000 thb" etc - ok great. So that's the first part of the  price. Now, I know I have to tip.  Will the  price list always list the minimum tip? If not, how do I know? If it doesn't say, am I expected to know a minimum tip is required, or does their silence on the matter signal none is expected?
Once I know the minimum tip, does this tip include the happy ending? For example, one place I was looking at (Ganymede) says 900 thb body to body with a 1000 minimum tip (it's not on their website, but someone posted a photo on google reviews). Does that 1000 tip cover the "extras" ? 
My understanding is that halfway through the massage, he will ask me if I want "special" service. If I say no, I'm still on the hook for the 1000 minimum tip - correct?
If I say yes, and he says "price 1200" does that mean I owe him  1200 + the 1000 minimum tip, or do I just tip the 1200 and that covers the extra and since it's >1000, it meets the requirements?
Thanks for your help!